Just tried it at bestbuy , and the touchwiz browser is extremely smooth more so than the browser on any phone/ android tablet ive tried. How did samsung achieved this, and how come more browser arent like this?
Lol which android phones have you even used? Android phones have come a long way even from just a year ago thanks to the emergence of dual cores and quad cores now... I also find dolphin browser very nice and the stock browser for ics is fast as well.
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No but im sure samsung did something with touchwiz that no other manufacturer do to make the browser ios smooth
It's not any more smooth than the stock ICS browser.
The Note is just a really powerful device. That's probably why it felt so buttery.
I've read that the touchwizz browser is hardware accelerated. Seeing the hardware on the note is so good, you'll probably notice the improvement a bit more than other chips.
Then again, isn't HWA now default across most apps in ICS? I find chrome Beta overall smooth, but then it doesn't have flash. Stock browser is alright.
The ICS stock browser has come a long ways since Gingerbread, I find myself using it the most on my Touchpad. I would like to see Google make the Android browser able to receive updates from them, like Google Play so that it stays up to date in the future.
The smoothest browser I've ever used is Opera. On my Galaxy S, stock ics browser is quite smooth when panning around but when you pinch to zoom out there's still some sluggish
Samsung devices have GPU accelerated browser. Since froyo. Which is coming to AOSP with ICS.
Another trick. We have panaroma mode on eclair. Which is new on ICS.
Hardware acceleration that is optimized well. Both my galaxy s and s2 are bloody smooth with heavy flash content.
Stock ics browser is a **** house in the comparison. i have tried cm, aokp and they all suck at browser smoothness, ics so far has managed to achieve a semi smooth ui, but its just not up to par in modern day os.
The positive thing is that aosp ics had improve a lot over gingerbread and under
Yeah, I only realized his smooth Android could really be after first trying out the SGS2 last year. I believe Samsung include GPU acceleration on it.
I'm using a Desire S with CM7 based ROM with hardware acceleration turned on, and it makes a notable smoothness performance increase. Obviously not as good as the note though, as the note has a dual core chip.
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Yeah, I only realized his smooth Android could really be after first trying out the SGS2 last year. I believe Samsung include GPU acceleration on it.
I'm using a Desire S with CM7 based ROM with hardware acceleration turned on, and it makes a notable smoothness performance increase. Obviously not as good as the note though, as the note has a dual core chip.
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It has got nothing to do with dual core.
Even my Galaxy S lives very close to my SGS2 and my friend's iPod touch 4G in terms of smoothness in websites even with heavy flash content.
Got a Note today, and I've found it less smooth than the N900 it's supposed to replace... Hopefully it's a faulty one or something
I confirm that stock samsung browser is damn smooth.
Used the custom GC Checkrom NoteHD V6, and I was always amazed by the browser's smoothness. Awesome.
Now I am on a CM9 rom, and no browser are that smooth ...
Nevertheless, ICS browsers are (as far as i am concerned) more user friendly, and allow to switch quickly between tabs and favorites pages.
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Hi Guys
My first introduction to Android world was through the Samsung Galaxy S. I have to say that my experience with android on the galaxy S was unpleasant as the phony UI would be smooth at boot time, but it would get laggy as you use the phone, and after sometime it gets so laggy that a reboot is needed.
There was a big debate on the Galaxy S forum here and the conclusion was that lag was due to the file system that Samsung used (RFS) and the unoptimized touchwiz interface, not to the Android OS itself
I have been tracking the release of LG Optimus 2x which is supposed to be a beast in terms of CPU and GPU power, and when I asked the guy who owns a test unit about the same topic as above, his reply was that he faced lag and had to reboot after using the phone for sometime. Check link below post # 14
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935909&page=2
So might there be a possibility that lag is pertinent to the Android system itself as lagging seems to be there in most android phones ????
I am posting this topic as i am planning on buying a new phone and i have to decide whether i should buy one of the new Android phones (Motorola Atrix, Samsung Galaxy S2, LG optimus 2x, etc) or try another OS.
Thanks for your feedback
I've noticed it in all Android devices that i've played with. It's even visibly noticable in videos where others are demonstrating their handsets. For me it's most noticeable in scrolling, whether it be through a list, changing homescreens, or using the browser.
Some Android users vehemently deny it exists even though i can see it while they use their phone in front of me! Fortunately we're not the only people to see this as there are many others with similar experiences.
For now i'm just chalking it up to the relative immaturity of the platform.
I own a Galaxy S also and when im on custom roms there is no lag. However stock galaxy s is super slow and laggy. I find that the droid phones are also very laggy! And don't get me started on the web browsing! the iPhone has the smoothest web browsing I've seen. Web browsing on android is a joke!
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Has anyone owned an android device before and not experienced lag at all ?
how about HTC, the new devices like the Desire HD, does it lag too after a couple of hours of usage ?
I've had a desire HD for about 2-3 weeks, so far i've had to reboot at least 5 times, a friend also got one at a similar time and I know he has had some issues with lag aswell, I'm tempted to install a custom rom and see if that helps, even if it doesn't at least it will get rid of all the [email protected] software which is installed by HTC & Orange by default..... (think amazon MP3, the stock games and Orange app store etc)
Surely lag exists, as I've experienced it myself. But I've never gotten lag to a point where I would have to reboot to make it smooth again. I've had a few (< 10) crashes where I had to force the phone to close, but it's not such a nuisance for me.
I've also never owned a phone wherein I didn't have to flash anything (probably because I've always sticked to Samsung even though their software isn't on par with the others). However I find that once I start to use custom ROMs, most if not all the lag and problems disappear. I think it could be attributed to a lot of factors, not just the OS itself.
YMMV, though.
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Surely lag exists, as I've experienced it myself. But I've never gotten lag to a point where I would have to reboot to make it smooth again. I've had a few (< 10) crashes where I had to force the phone to close, but it's not such a nuisance for me.
I've also never owned a phone wherein I didn't have to flash anything (probably because I've always sticked to Samsung even though their software isn't on par with the others). However I find that once I start to use custom ROMs, most if not all the lag and problems disappear. I think it could be attributed to a lot of factors, not just the OS itself.
YMMV, though.
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What other Factors ? Every android device from vendors like samsung, htc, etc lags
How about the pure android experience like the nexus one or nexus S, has any one noticed whether they lag or not
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I've noticed it in all Android devices that i've played with. It's even visibly noticable in videos where others are demonstrating their handsets. For me it's most noticeable in scrolling, whether it be through a list, changing homescreens, or using the browser.
Some Android users vehemently deny it exists even though i can see it while they use their phone in front of me! Fortunately we're not the only people to see this as there are many others with similar experiences.
For now i'm just chalking it up to the relative immaturity of the platform.
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The lag you experience is because of a UI driven by CPU instead of GPU (iOS, WP7). Android 3.0 Honeycomb adds advanced hardware acceleration, this will absolutely make lag on Android history.
i own a droid eris and i rarely experience lag. This is due to a very devoted developer we have (punkaos). Anyway, my point is that with a good rom any phone can be lag free.
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The lag you experience is because of a UI driven by CPU instead of GPU (iOS, WP7). Android 3.0 Honeycomb adds advanced hardware acceleration, this will absolutely make lag on Android history.
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I understand from your note that iOS and WP7 use the GPU not the CPU for driving the UI, that is why they are much smoother
I have to disagree as lag is incremental and increases as you use the phone further (open and close applications), it gets to the point where sometimes you have to reboot
If what you said is true then lag severity is constant throughout and does not increase with time, which is not the case
I'm on HTC desire and I believe e what most are talking about is transitions not lag,I think the way Android handles transitions or lack of having them is what you see as lag, for example when I open safari on my iPhone there's a beautiful transition that's silky smooth were it expends from the icon, its fast and smooth but it takes time
Now recently on the desire I installed the fly in transition and set window transitions to slow and the results are very smooth, but I still don't have an exit transition or a modified one so any notifications just disappear instead of floating away . Plus this is only for android menus and like the market. Also install task killer and set it to stop extra apps that are left running every hour.
I reboot my phone probably once a week if that's too hard for people they shouldn't use phones or computers . At the end of a week ny phones just as fast as at the beginning
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Transitions are only a small part of lag. The lag I am referring to has to do more with very bad memory management
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The lag you experience is because of a UI driven by CPU instead of GPU (iOS, WP7). Android 3.0 Honeycomb adds advanced hardware acceleration, this will absolutely make lag on Android history.
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yep.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=6914
Thinking of returning my Atrix and just getting a Nexus S. One thing the Atrix actually does is play flash 100% perfectly.
Can the same be said for this phone"?
The Nexus S runs Flash fine, but not so smooth on higher bitrate flash videos
I don't have any experience with the Atrix but my experience with the Nexus S is the browser and flash acceleration isn't really there (yet) like it is on Snapdragon devices. I feel like my Nexus One and MT4G performed better at flash playback in the browser than the NS.
No idea how flash is on Tegra 2 phones but I'd guess it's way better than the NS. Give some links to some flash sites that run nicely on your Atrix and I'll test it on my NS.
Comparing the Nexus S and Atrix 4G in terms of hardware is a joke. Personally, I prefer the Nexus S because I hate Motoblur and also I like the way the phone looks. But there's no way I can deny that the Atrix is more powerful, especially graphically. Dude, it has a friggin Tegra 2 dual-core CPU. The Nexus S I believe has a single-core Hummingbird. The Hummingbird (same one in the Galaxy S) is very powerful graphically, but the Tegra 2 is more powerful. I'd still take the Nexus S though since it's more powerful than my Evo.
My NxS w/CM7 + Flash works equal to my N1 same setup. This is not based on any spec or performance comparisons...just a daily user of shadownet.com
Why dumping Atrix?
...sent from NxS
search around for threads about this, because the nexus s actually is not optimized to play flash well yet, its missing graphics acceleration, etc. so many sites seems to be slow and choppy, and the nexus one actually out performs it. this is obviously a fluke, but the update has not yet come to fix it.
the galaxy s was the same way but samsung pushed the update out to the international version, and it made a world of difference. apparently google did not get this memo. so you might not have as smooth performance as expected.
reason it has issues is becuase hardware acceleration has yet to be implemented like the snapdragon CPU
The thing is that, being a Nexus device, the software is handled by Google, so you can expect a quick update.
My captivate with a custom kernel runs flash extremely well - nearly as well as the atrix.
Returning the atrix because its really a disappointment. Its horribly optimized, cant display the color yellow at all, and AT&T raped the HSUPA on the phone - disabling it. which wouldnt be a major issue if the boot loader was locked and you could enable it like on my captivate.
Just too much crap wrong with it to warrant signing a 2 year contract with it. So I am thinking thunderbolt or nexus S at this point.
on stock,not well. but I read that when overclocked, runs smoothly or hopefully, as said here, they will put the gpu to help
Nexus S browsing performance (Only Nexus S holders plz)
So I've seen many conflicting videos/reviews about Nexus S scrolling/zooming.... I heard that Samsung only optimized the browser for Hummingbird (with GPU acceleration, but of course didn't share the code with Google), but it's not available on the Nexus S.
So, on the Nexus S with Flash-enabled:
1) How smooth is it? Is it as smooth as the Atrix? iPhone 4? Galaxy S (after GPU acceleration fix)?
2) How smooth does flash video play in the browser?
3) Is there any ROM/Kernel I need to install to get the smoothest web-browsing experience? (I'm down with this, I just need to know if there's a solution).
4) Any hope that Samsung's GPU acceleration code can be used on the Nexus S?
Because I can afford either the Nexus S or the Atrix (I'm buying one of them in exactly 10 days), but I don't like the Atrix' screen or the fact it won't get Ice Cream this summer. I need Super AMOLED and instant updates -but not if it will mean a choppy browsing experience and poor flash performance.
Thanks!
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So I've seen many conflicting videos/reviews about Nexus S scrolling/zooming.... I heard that Samsung only optimized the browser for Hummingbird (with GPU acceleration, but of course didn't share the code with Google), but it's not available on the Nexus S.
So, on the Nexus S with Flash-enabled:
1) How smooth is it? Is it as smooth as the Atrix? iPhone 4? Galaxy S (after GPU acceleration fix)?
2) How smooth does flash video play in the browser?
3) Is there any ROM/Kernel I need to install to get the smoothest web-browsing experience? (I'm down with this, I just need to know if there's a solution).
4) Any hope the GPU acceleration code can be used on the Nexus S?
Because I can afford either the Nexus S or the Atrix (I'm buying one of them in exactly 10 days), but I don't like the Atrix' screen or the fact it won't get Ice Cream this summer. I need Super AMOLED and instant updates -but not if it will mean a choppy browsing experience and poor flash performance.
Thanks!
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*I use flash on-demand. I don't see any point in keeping flash enabled on a constant basis. You are just wasting battery life on pointless flash advertisements.
1) Haven't owned/used an Atrix/Galaxy S so can't comment.. But it's certainly not as smooth as the iPhone 4. However, the Android browser renders the entire webpage at once as opposed to the iPhone 4 and it's "checkboard" rendering while scrolling. So it's expected to be less smooth.
2) Most video I've played has been smooth. But of course don't expect to scroll through a webpage and have a video still remain smooth.
3) Most of the kernels/roms out for the Nexus S are designed with the improve performance (not the browser specifically) via filesystem tweaks, overclocking, and other enhancements. This would certainly translate to smoother browsing. However I don't bother.
4) Hopefully when we see Ice Cream on the Nexus S there will be further performance enhancements and possibly GPU acceleration. I'm hopeful the improved browser included with Android 3.0 is included with it's phone counterpart.
there´s already a thread about the same question, try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=967608
TareX said:
So I've seen many conflicting videos/reviews about Nexus S scrolling/zooming.... I heard that Samsung only optimized the browser for Hummingbird (with GPU acceleration, but of course didn't share the code with Google), but it's not available on the Nexus S.
So, on the Nexus S with Flash-enabled:
1) How smooth is it? Is it as smooth as the Atrix? iPhone 4? Galaxy S (after GPU acceleration fix)?
2) How smooth does flash video play in the browser?
3) Is there any ROM/Kernel I need to install to get the smoothest web-browsing experience? (I'm down with this, I just need to know if there's a solution).
4) Any hope that Samsung's GPU acceleration code can be used on the Nexus S?
Because I can afford either the Nexus S or the Atrix (I'm buying one of them in exactly 10 days), but I don't like the Atrix' screen or the fact it won't get Ice Cream this summer. I need Super AMOLED and instant updates -but not if it will mean a choppy browsing experience and poor flash performance.
Thanks!
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heres a great video to answer your nexus s vs atrix questions. see for yourself http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm3BJ2vKpGM
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heres a great video to answer your nexus s vs atrix questions. see for yourself http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm3BJ2vKpGM
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Thanks man, I saw this video which is why I am a bit confused about the truth. I've also seen countless other videos where the scrolling and pinching are just painfully slow and choppy, which is why I need to ask about people's experiences.
I also don't know if this person in the video has any specific ROM/Kernel underneath...
Browser sux in bare mode. But if you use SetCpu and put the cpu at 1300Mhz it will run as smooth as butter...this is with flash and the most heaviest of web pages...speaking from my own personal experience.
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heres a great video to answer your nexus s vs atrix questions. see for yourself http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm3BJ2vKpGM
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I´m curious to know if the nexus on this video has mods. Cause if it is on stock, ther is no advantage, for now , on picking up a dual core phone...actually, I thought Atrix would be something out of this world... guess not
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Browser sux in bare mode. But if you use SetCpu and put the cpu at 1300Mhz it will run as smooth as butter...this is with flash and the most heaviest of web pages...speaking from my own personal experience.
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Thank you! That's what I'm talking about.
What impact does the overlock have on battery life?
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I´m curious to know if the nexus on this video has mods. Cause if it is on stock, ther is no advantage, for now , on picking up a dual core phone...actually, I thought Atrix would be something out of this world... guess not
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both atrix and nexus s are stock in the video. i have no problems at all browsing with my nexus s, but then again im not at stock. from what ive heard from atrix owners that also have a nexus s(like the vid) is there isnt any difference, and the ns might even be slightly smoother.
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Browser sux in bare mode. But if you use SetCpu and put the cpu at 1300Mhz it will run as smooth as butter...this is with flash and the most heaviest of web pages...speaking from my own personal experience.
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I was excited when I read that; but then I saw a video of a Nexus S on 1300 Mhz and while everything was fast, web browsing was still choppy; the guy was too embarrassed to keep demoing it.
http://androidcommunity.com/exclusi...d-to-1-3ghz-running-flawlessly-demo-20110104/
As the title says, will we have a ROM with samsung's latest ROM with touchwiz and gingerbread? I am specifically interested in touchwiz because it has gpu acceleration in browser and the UI in general. I came from a Desire in hope that I will get a better phone. Being able to play the latest games is good, but laggy browser, laggy custom launcher and frequent RAM memory leaks makes me want to trade this phone for something else. Its a huge epic fail from Google imo.
Not sure why i posted, might need to get some sleep
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I don't see why it couldn't be done.
I would do it if I had the knowledge, but I don't so I'm going to leave it to the professionals.
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As the title says, will we have a ROM with samsung's latest ROM with touchwiz and gingerbread? I am specifically interested in touchwiz because it has gpu acceleration in browser and the UI in general. I came from a Desire in hope that I will get a better phone. Being able to play the latest games is good, but laggy browser, laggy custom launcher and frequent RAM memory leaks makes me want to trade this phone for something else. Its a huge epic fail from Google imo.
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Are you running stock? Cause my phone is fine with stock I find it more stable then anything else the only thing I hate is the camera app and the ones in the market takes too long to take a picture, beside that as stock android goes is perfect for me at least
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While I would also love to see TouchWiz (I had a Vibrant before it, TouchWiz > stock imo), I don't have any lag issues with my Nexus S as I had with my Vibrant. Did you make sure nothing is on in the background eating up CPU and thus causing everything to slow down?
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While I would also love to see TouchWiz (I had a Vibrant before it, TouchWiz > stock imo), I don't have any lag issues with my Nexus S as I had with my Vibrant. Did you make sure nothing is on in the background eating up CPU and thus causing everything to slow down?
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Damn you said you like touchwiz? Wow first person I know that says that you really need to try sense then
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I loved touchwiz.. Gave me a reason to root and instantly remove it.
Check the dev section, if you have any knowledge you can even help out... seems the guy is stuck on a few things and is busy with exams...
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Yes I've seen jonathon's topic, found it after I posted this one, sorry for not searching before
It's not about the cpu usage, that's fine, I'm only having memory leaks (ram). And the browser sucks when it comes to rendering images and flash content, it lags like hell.
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Yes I've seen jonathon's topic, found it after I posted this one, sorry for not searching before
It's not about the cpu usage, that's fine, I'm only having memory leaks (ram). And the browser sucks when it comes to rendering images and flash content, it lags like hell.
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Looking at buying a Nexus S and coming from a Desire myself, this worries me.
Is this guy exaggerating, or is this really the experience? I was expecting it to be just the same as the Desire, if not better.
williamj1 said:
Looking at buying a Nexus S and coming from a Desire myself, this worries me.
Is this guy exaggerating, or is this really the experience? I was expecting it to be just the same as the Desire, if not better.
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Desire runs sense right ? and is way different story, if you use to cm7 then nexus s is great latest update all the time and most likely get ice cream before anything else, if you don't. Care about SD storing and sense this phone makes perfect sense if you do then better go with HTC
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Desire runs sense right ? and is way different story, if you use to cm7 then nexus s is great latest update all the time and most likely get ice cream before anything else, if you don't. Care about SD storing and sense this phone makes perfect sense if you do then better go with HTC
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My Desire runs sense by default / stock yes. But I'm rooted and already running CM7.0.3 on it.
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My Desire runs sense by default / stock yes. But I'm rooted and already running CM7.0.3 on it.
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Yeah that's what I thought I had the evo 4G supersonic and sense have some nice features but I went with cm7 I like it a lot but after a week the rom will run into bugs and it will drive me nuts like whencalling the proximity sensor wouldn't work right or get stock in alot of apps, so when they announced this phone I waited cause I don't like T-Mobile now is in sprint so I got it and not bugs and I miss the camera app from sense or cm7 but I'm happy tho
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Looking at buying a Nexus S and coming from a Desire myself, this worries me.
Is this guy exaggerating, or is this really the experience? I was expecting it to be just the same as the Desire, if not better.
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Believe me, coming from a Desire you'll feel a huge difference in web browsing. The browser in the stock android isn't gpu accelerated as in HTC Sense, so loading flash content or big pictures is practicably impossible, it slows down the phone so much!
Another issue that is bothering me is that the Nexus S has in reality about 300mb of RAM (~200mb RAM are used by the GPU). The system uses about half of it, so you're left with 150mb RAM to handle the apps, which is extremely low. Especially when you open the browser, you're sometimes left with less then 50mb free, which slows down the phone. So everytime I browse the internet, I have to manually kill the app after I'm done, cause I run into a memory leak.
Also custom launchers (launcher pro, adw and others), when filled with 4x4 widgets and have about 4-5 screens, scrolling is not smooth at all. This is because the UI isn't gpu accelerated as well, its handled by the CPU. So unless you OC it a bit, it will be slugish.
I'm pretty disappointed in certain things after coming from an HTC phone (their UI really kicks ass), but the nexus S has a superb display (be it SLCD or S-Amoled), has far much better hardware, enough internal memory (16gb is enough for everyone imo) and a much better battery life, that I can tell it for sure.
And still, all in all, if I knew nexus has these problems with the RAM and browser, I would've probably bought another HTC Device, maybe the Incredible S. That doesn't mean I'm not satisfied with this phone tho, can't wait for icecream sandwich.
How are you guys finding stock ICS vs stock GB
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ICS is so much better in my opinion. Smoother and nicer to look at and use.
Battery life is worse though for me. Having said that I can still get through the working day for my level of use so not really an issue.
I have since switched to CM9 and battery life is better, especially using deep idle.
In my opinion it is worth the upgrade.
There's plenty of Nexus S, ICS vs GB videos on youtube. Nothing says empirical better than proper side-by-side comparisons. Watch a few and let us know what you think!
In my opinion ICS pushes hardware much more than GB but the user experience is much better.
ROM and Kernel mods are not so stable in ICS than GB, probably because ICS is squeezing any hardware drop from Nexus S and mods have to be carefully balanced.
i dont fell any great differences. its very comfy, also a bit buggy sometimes, like the contakts app.
I don´t like ICS...Thats why i am still on GB. I hate it when you push the screen and you have to wait for about 2 to 3 seconds for the app to open. I want it open instantanious.
ICS lags as well. Big Minus in my eyes.
Maybe when Kernels and all that sort of stuff are optimized but i guess i´ll have an Galaxy Note before this will happen.
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I don´t like ICS...Thats why i am still on GB. I hate it when you push the screen and you have to wait for about 2 to 3 seconds for the app to open. I want it open instantanious.
ICS lags as well. Big Minus in my eyes.
Maybe when Kernels and all that sort of stuff are optimized but i guess i´ll have an Galaxy Note before this will happen.
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This. Minus the note part.
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I feel gb is good for speed and battery life...ics has a lot of changes especially in appearance.
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I really like ICS. Runs very well. It does lag a little bit from time to time and the battery is a bit worse, but I get about a day and a half on my normal use(a few phone calls, some 3G, a few texts, maybe some 2D games) and got almost 3 and a half days on very light use (a couple of phone calls and a few texts). So it's not that bad for me.
I loved GB, too, but ICS just feels better. The UI is way better. It just feels right.
PLEEZEFRAGME said:
I don´t like ICS...Thats why i am still on GB. I hate it when you push the screen and you have to wait for about 2 to 3 seconds for the app to open. I want it open instantanious.
ICS lags as well. Big Minus in my eyes.
Maybe when Kernels and all that sort of stuff are optimized but i guess i´ll have an Galaxy Note before this will happen.
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i have been through same situation like you , in stock ICS, yes, laggy , but try some ROM like KANG or CM9 , and kernel , like now , i am using Kangy-S ROM with Matr1x 14.5 CFS , i feel it much faster than MIUI 2.3.7B + franco kernel.
of course , somehow , MIUI is slower than stock or CM7 ...
only the browser which renders alot faster than gb where i feel the ics performance
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I've found a little lag versus gingerbread and a little more battery hungry, but it works great with Eugene's icup kernel and bigxie 's lightly modded ics. I got my GSM galaxy nexus finally so the nexus s went to my wife but its working great for her. I still have a soft spot for that phone. I think if the phone weren't always clearing things out due to ram shortages, that battery life would be more comparable to gingerbread. I get a big increase in battery life I believe on the new phone because I've always got over 300 megs free.
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i've just watched a video on youtube form a guy who compared 2 similar nexus s, one with gb, the other with ics. everything seems to be a tad slower on ics, but its much smoother on the other hand.
but then again, the systems are not comparable (one device static wallpaper, the other live wallpaper. one freshly rebooted, the other not etc...)
ICS is great for me way better than GB. Battery life is pretty much the same on ICS as it is on GB.
And you guys act like GB wasn't laggy, it was VERY laggy for me on 2.3.6. I never really had any lag on ICS tho, it's probably because I did a factory reset as soon as the update was installed...
it feels like ICS pushes the hardware more ... :/ GB was a little laggy but ICS is smooth as butter on ice =P
I'm back to GB now. ICS on my Nexus s drains battery too much and a little laggy. My proof is when I am playing and charging with USB in the same time, my battery% is increase very very slower than GB. And now Its not support for my favorite browser "Opera" I hate the way of ICS stock browser. My GPS on ICS seem not stable and the speed of transferring file with PC is very slow.
Part of me has this crazy belief that we should probably be comparing Gingerbread 2.3.1 with Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0.3, as 2.3 has enjoyed a year of improvement following release, whereas Ice Cream Sandwich is brand new.
But nah. Android is a year later in development.
I didn't like Ice Cream Sandwich at first. It felt smooth but less snappy. However, Gingerbread can also feel less than snappy. After a few weeks (running stock) and having had a fortnight between reboots, I'll say that Ice Cream Sandwich is a more consistent performer on my device. Yes it isn't snappy, but it doesn't do that horrible thing where you try to launch an application and you wait... and wait... and wait and there it goes.
From a user interface perspective, I much prefer Ice Cream Sandwich. The improvements to the keyboard are good. It feels as significant an improvement over 2.3 as 2.3 felt over 2.1.
I don't have enough time with the Nexus S on 2.3.x to give you more than a feel for battery life, which is, it's less, but still adequate for a day of use. Usual caveats apply.
I have no battery probs just few apps not fully compatible with ics much nicer UI and looks more modern seems to me a great upgrade . Running stock
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I've been running stock ICS for about a month now, and honestly, no complaints on my end. Battery life is amazing; lasts a day and a half sometimes with 3G on all time/WiFi while at work.
Sluggishness is only present when I'm opening certain apps which require data (like Facebook or Tweetdeck) and even then the lag isn't something to really complain about - unless you're reaaaaally impatient.
Can't wait to get the official OTA though since I did mine through the DIY route Thanks again XDA for helping with that!
Anyone with an interest in performance should check my thread.
For kernel benchmarks and more, see here: http://goo.gl/mpeHI
I wonder if anyone has an explanation why this device feels slower than the 1+1... I know one runs vanilla android and the other runs tw, but I thought 64bit processor should kill it
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not sure if trolling or not
Why would he be trolling? It's a fact. I too have owned an OPO, and in comparison my S6 is quite sluggish.
If u guys ever owned s4 or even s3 with aosp rom then this comparing I must say is useless. I also have nexus 5 and its much faster in scrolling then s6 but AGAIN its pure android...
My Nexus 5 is quicker than my S6, hoping once updates or development picks up this will change.
In what ways is it slower?
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I find my N4 is much snappier than my S6. Entering my pin and scrolling is much faster on my N4
S6 is faster than all those phones mentioned above - animations are good as they point out to a more polished and build GUI. Kind of snappiness you guys are referring to which is found in vanilla android does not indicate faster performance but to the snappiness of GUI instead. On the other hand, open source nature of Android will always result in one app build better than the other depending on the developer and hours of work he has put out into his project.
I am not trolling. I believe it has to do with the processor speed. A 4 core clocked at 2.4ghz will feel faster than an octa core clocked at 1.4ghz. May be the difference is made when gaming. And yes also the nexus 5 feels way snappier.
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Also your talking about how fast the animations are programmed to be by each maker. Turn off all animations on both and see which launches faster.
I thought s6 is faster when open apps
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OS fluidity is miles ahead on stock android, Chrome on the S6 is just pitiful yet is smooth and fast on stock android and mny other skinned versions of android. Touchwiz and the underlying modifications Samsung makes to Android somehow makes it worse again in OS fluidity. The Galaxy S6 has the best specs of any smartphone out there and with it's faster storage can launch applications fractionally faster than other smartphones but overall the experience is superior on devices that do not run a skinned version of android.
Animations in general are smoother (Speed of animation is irrelevant its the smoothness of it) on stock android (Even 5.0.2 on the Nexus 5). 5.1.1 may save the Galaxy S6 (Atleast for me) because with the specs this phone has I expect much more int he way of fluidity. Having to root in order to somewhat fix the borked memory management (Which is not all down to Android 5.0.2) is unacceptable this device has 3GB of memory and runs/ran worse than my Nexus 5. Lets not even start about battery. Hopefully 5.1.1 will fix some of these issues otherwise its back to a Nexus 6 until the next Nexus or Moto X is released in Q4.
yeah no ****, its touchwiz vs stock android. samsung phones will always be slower than stock android phones that are a generation behind
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Also your talking about how fast the animations are programmed to be by each maker. Turn off all animations on both and see which launches faster.
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I am talking about how fast I can reach the last forum in xda for example. 1+1 beats s6 all day long. To me it seems kernel related and I remember franco saying same thing a while ago too. Talking about cpu speed. Everyday usage a quadcore cpu clocked at 2.4ghz feels faster than an octacore clocked at 1.4ghz. Reminds me of the old s4 running exynoss vs qualcomm lol
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I have an OPO as well and my S6 kills it in speed!
Multitasking is a whole other issue...
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I am talking about how fast I can reach the last forum in xda for example. 1+1 beats s6 all day long. To me it seems kernel related and I remember franco saying same thing a while ago too. Talking about cpu speed. Everyday usage a quadcore cpu clocked at 2.4ghz feels faster than an octacore clocked at 1.4ghz. Reminds me of the old s4 running exynoss vs qualcomm lol
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You on about scrolling down a page? If that's the case it's either Samsung's take on iphone scrolling, or it's the fact everyone is using Chrome which is the slowest browser on the planet.
As for the 1+1 and the N4 N5, they aren't any faster, they're just feature lacking and animations are a little smoother and more boring. Nova launcher and animation speed on S6 makes a big difference.
IF that isn't enough for everyone complaining, remember, the whole is greater than the sum of it's parts and Nexus and One plus phones are awful built with crap components overall.
Problem could be you have a TMobile Version carrier branded phone which not only adds Samsung bloat but also TMobile bloat. That's one of the reasons why I went with an international unlocked SM-G920F. I'm just fine with how fast my phone opens apps, scrolls, whatever. WAAAY faster than my old S4. I don't know how fast you guys need these phones to be.
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Problem could be you have a TMobile Version carrier branded phone which not only adds Samsung bloat but also TMobile bloat. That's one of the reasons why I went with an international unlocked SM-G920F. I'm just fine with how fast my phone opens apps, scrolls, whatever. WAAAY faster than my old S4. I don't know how fast you guys need these phones to be.
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I need it so fast it see's into the future for me
Thanks for the troll comment guys. But yes the 5.1.1 update made this phone snappier and feels as fast as 1+1 running blisspop rom with uber toolchain. Next time don't get too butthurt if you hear your phone is slow
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The 920F is faster than any other android phones I've used.