How well does this phone run Flash? - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Thinking of returning my Atrix and just getting a Nexus S. One thing the Atrix actually does is play flash 100% perfectly.
Can the same be said for this phone"?

The Nexus S runs Flash fine, but not so smooth on higher bitrate flash videos

I don't have any experience with the Atrix but my experience with the Nexus S is the browser and flash acceleration isn't really there (yet) like it is on Snapdragon devices. I feel like my Nexus One and MT4G performed better at flash playback in the browser than the NS.
No idea how flash is on Tegra 2 phones but I'd guess it's way better than the NS. Give some links to some flash sites that run nicely on your Atrix and I'll test it on my NS.

Comparing the Nexus S and Atrix 4G in terms of hardware is a joke. Personally, I prefer the Nexus S because I hate Motoblur and also I like the way the phone looks. But there's no way I can deny that the Atrix is more powerful, especially graphically. Dude, it has a friggin Tegra 2 dual-core CPU. The Nexus S I believe has a single-core Hummingbird. The Hummingbird (same one in the Galaxy S) is very powerful graphically, but the Tegra 2 is more powerful. I'd still take the Nexus S though since it's more powerful than my Evo.

My NxS w/CM7 + Flash works equal to my N1 same setup. This is not based on any spec or performance comparisons...just a daily user of shadownet.com
Why dumping Atrix?
...sent from NxS

search around for threads about this, because the nexus s actually is not optimized to play flash well yet, its missing graphics acceleration, etc. so many sites seems to be slow and choppy, and the nexus one actually out performs it. this is obviously a fluke, but the update has not yet come to fix it.
the galaxy s was the same way but samsung pushed the update out to the international version, and it made a world of difference. apparently google did not get this memo. so you might not have as smooth performance as expected.

reason it has issues is becuase hardware acceleration has yet to be implemented like the snapdragon CPU

The thing is that, being a Nexus device, the software is handled by Google, so you can expect a quick update.

My captivate with a custom kernel runs flash extremely well - nearly as well as the atrix.
Returning the atrix because its really a disappointment. Its horribly optimized, cant display the color yellow at all, and AT&T raped the HSUPA on the phone - disabling it. which wouldnt be a major issue if the boot loader was locked and you could enable it like on my captivate.
Just too much crap wrong with it to warrant signing a 2 year contract with it. So I am thinking thunderbolt or nexus S at this point.

on stock,not well. but I read that when overclocked, runs smoothly or hopefully, as said here, they will put the gpu to help

Nexus S browsing performance (Only Nexus S holders plz)
So I've seen many conflicting videos/reviews about Nexus S scrolling/zooming.... I heard that Samsung only optimized the browser for Hummingbird (with GPU acceleration, but of course didn't share the code with Google), but it's not available on the Nexus S.
So, on the Nexus S with Flash-enabled:
1) How smooth is it? Is it as smooth as the Atrix? iPhone 4? Galaxy S (after GPU acceleration fix)?
2) How smooth does flash video play in the browser?
3) Is there any ROM/Kernel I need to install to get the smoothest web-browsing experience? (I'm down with this, I just need to know if there's a solution).
4) Any hope that Samsung's GPU acceleration code can be used on the Nexus S?
Because I can afford either the Nexus S or the Atrix (I'm buying one of them in exactly 10 days), but I don't like the Atrix' screen or the fact it won't get Ice Cream this summer. I need Super AMOLED and instant updates -but not if it will mean a choppy browsing experience and poor flash performance.
Thanks!

TareX said:
So I've seen many conflicting videos/reviews about Nexus S scrolling/zooming.... I heard that Samsung only optimized the browser for Hummingbird (with GPU acceleration, but of course didn't share the code with Google), but it's not available on the Nexus S.
So, on the Nexus S with Flash-enabled:
1) How smooth is it? Is it as smooth as the Atrix? iPhone 4? Galaxy S (after GPU acceleration fix)?
2) How smooth does flash video play in the browser?
3) Is there any ROM/Kernel I need to install to get the smoothest web-browsing experience? (I'm down with this, I just need to know if there's a solution).
4) Any hope the GPU acceleration code can be used on the Nexus S?
Because I can afford either the Nexus S or the Atrix (I'm buying one of them in exactly 10 days), but I don't like the Atrix' screen or the fact it won't get Ice Cream this summer. I need Super AMOLED and instant updates -but not if it will mean a choppy browsing experience and poor flash performance.
Thanks!
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*I use flash on-demand. I don't see any point in keeping flash enabled on a constant basis. You are just wasting battery life on pointless flash advertisements.
1) Haven't owned/used an Atrix/Galaxy S so can't comment.. But it's certainly not as smooth as the iPhone 4. However, the Android browser renders the entire webpage at once as opposed to the iPhone 4 and it's "checkboard" rendering while scrolling. So it's expected to be less smooth.
2) Most video I've played has been smooth. But of course don't expect to scroll through a webpage and have a video still remain smooth.
3) Most of the kernels/roms out for the Nexus S are designed with the improve performance (not the browser specifically) via filesystem tweaks, overclocking, and other enhancements. This would certainly translate to smoother browsing. However I don't bother.
4) Hopefully when we see Ice Cream on the Nexus S there will be further performance enhancements and possibly GPU acceleration. I'm hopeful the improved browser included with Android 3.0 is included with it's phone counterpart.

there´s already a thread about the same question, try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=967608

TareX said:
So I've seen many conflicting videos/reviews about Nexus S scrolling/zooming.... I heard that Samsung only optimized the browser for Hummingbird (with GPU acceleration, but of course didn't share the code with Google), but it's not available on the Nexus S.
So, on the Nexus S with Flash-enabled:
1) How smooth is it? Is it as smooth as the Atrix? iPhone 4? Galaxy S (after GPU acceleration fix)?
2) How smooth does flash video play in the browser?
3) Is there any ROM/Kernel I need to install to get the smoothest web-browsing experience? (I'm down with this, I just need to know if there's a solution).
4) Any hope that Samsung's GPU acceleration code can be used on the Nexus S?
Because I can afford either the Nexus S or the Atrix (I'm buying one of them in exactly 10 days), but I don't like the Atrix' screen or the fact it won't get Ice Cream this summer. I need Super AMOLED and instant updates -but not if it will mean a choppy browsing experience and poor flash performance.
Thanks!
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heres a great video to answer your nexus s vs atrix questions. see for yourself http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm3BJ2vKpGM

simms22 said:
heres a great video to answer your nexus s vs atrix questions. see for yourself http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm3BJ2vKpGM
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Thanks man, I saw this video which is why I am a bit confused about the truth. I've also seen countless other videos where the scrolling and pinching are just painfully slow and choppy, which is why I need to ask about people's experiences.
I also don't know if this person in the video has any specific ROM/Kernel underneath...

Browser sux in bare mode. But if you use SetCpu and put the cpu at 1300Mhz it will run as smooth as butter...this is with flash and the most heaviest of web pages...speaking from my own personal experience.

simms22 said:
heres a great video to answer your nexus s vs atrix questions. see for yourself http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm3BJ2vKpGM
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I´m curious to know if the nexus on this video has mods. Cause if it is on stock, ther is no advantage, for now , on picking up a dual core phone...actually, I thought Atrix would be something out of this world... guess not

dman777 said:
Browser sux in bare mode. But if you use SetCpu and put the cpu at 1300Mhz it will run as smooth as butter...this is with flash and the most heaviest of web pages...speaking from my own personal experience.
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Thank you! That's what I'm talking about.
What impact does the overlock have on battery life?

alexcinci said:
I´m curious to know if the nexus on this video has mods. Cause if it is on stock, ther is no advantage, for now , on picking up a dual core phone...actually, I thought Atrix would be something out of this world... guess not
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both atrix and nexus s are stock in the video. i have no problems at all browsing with my nexus s, but then again im not at stock. from what ive heard from atrix owners that also have a nexus s(like the vid) is there isnt any difference, and the ns might even be slightly smoother.

dman777 said:
Browser sux in bare mode. But if you use SetCpu and put the cpu at 1300Mhz it will run as smooth as butter...this is with flash and the most heaviest of web pages...speaking from my own personal experience.
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I was excited when I read that; but then I saw a video of a Nexus S on 1300 Mhz and while everything was fast, web browsing was still choppy; the guy was too embarrassed to keep demoing it.
http://androidcommunity.com/exclusi...d-to-1-3ghz-running-flawlessly-demo-20110104/

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Vote: GPU Acceleration for Android UI

Although I'm loving my experience with Android, I can't help but think it's a shame that we don't have GPU acceleration outside of games (especially with all the new phones coming out with very good GPU's). I think this would really help sell Android to the average consumer. Even with LauncherPro, I feel my Vibrant is not as smooth as the iPhone when moving around the phone. Yes, it's fast, but it's not as smooth. There's little hangs/stutters when doing certain things like flicking through menus that's just jarring when compared to an iPhone which is buttery smooth all the time.
I think it's been brought up before, but it has to do with the iPhone using GPU acceleration and Android using only the CPU for rendering the UI.
There's a thread on the code.google page related to this very issue. If you agree and want GPU acceleration for Android, please vote in the thread below. I'm not sure if it'll get to the right people or if it'll make much of a difference, but I'd rather try and let google know this is a wanted/needed feature than sit back and wait.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=6914
Yeah, it doesn't feel as smooth as iOS. But I think they are using GPU accel. for 3.0, if you can wait....
Its definately annoying, especially in the web broswer.
Its quite ironic that if you go to the acid test website, every single android phone will score above and beyond the Iphone (not sure about 4 actually) but the page its self is frickin slow and jerky on my htc legend.
I can understand the main reason this has come about, trying to make a platform work on all devices crap or brilliant but theres always going to be this kind of problem.
But how there isnt already some kind of opt in setting/option is a bit of a failure on googles part.
All Android User & Fan should star this issue.
It's the priority #1 for Gingerbread..
And, at least for me, if i won't get accelerated UI & browser, i will probably left Android
Yeah me too I at least do consider getting an iPhone or Phone7 after my desire, this is such a shame, I mean it wouldn't be over complicated as even symbian devices can handle gpu acc. I really hope google will improve it for gingerbread, it just cant be that an old iPhone 3g is smoother than a desire with 1ghz cpu 576mb ram and so on... IT JUST CAN'T BE!
btw I read some threads about it, and everywhere people link to software based things like launcher pro different mod and so on but I got the fastest rom and launcher pro, one of the fastest kernel out there and still this damn UI still lags compared to the 3g as if I was running android on a 500 mhz phone ... I just dont understand why dont you care folks? Google HAS to change it if enough people care, but as actually only a very very little minority seems to care I'm pretty sure we wont get real gpu acceleration with gingerbread, just my opinion.

[Q] Nexus S or Galaxy S?

Hi dear,
I'm going to get Galaxy S or Nexus S next week for myself and my gf(my gf's birthday is coming so I'm gonna sell my white iphone 4...)
Btw, I'm on the middle of the road.
I enjoy the internet browsing with my phone and watch youtube quite often. Also, I do video chat with my parent via skype.
But I saw on Nexus S the internet browsing is not as smooth as on galaxy s.
How is the performance on both devices?
and I read that galaxy s also have got 2.3.4 so now skype is working with video call. That is, Nexus S is not only the device can do video call via skype.
Please give me an advice guys! hope i'll hear many advice from here
First of all, I got to say that I only have the Nexus S, and not the Galaxy S, just like most of the people on this forum. That's why my opinion may be biased.
From what I've heard, the Nexus S is certainly smoother than the Galaxy S, mainly because there is no Touchwiz. The internet browsing on the Nexus S is indeed not perfect (on the standard browser that is), but I believe that's a problem of most of the Android devices. Tip: download a new browser from the market. Opera and Miren Browser are one of the fastest.
If you are going to use Google Services like Youtube much, then I recommend the Nexus S, since you'll be sure to get updates from Google for a long time.
As for Skype, I don't see a reason why it would work better on the Nexus S than on the Galaxy S, or the other way around. I wouldn't use Skype anyway, the application is far from perfect (your battery will drain like there's no tomorrow, although there are certain apps that prevent that).
In my eyes, the Nexus S is basically a better Galaxy S. Faster, slicker design and faster updates. Oh, one thing that may be important to you: the Nexus S doesn't have FM radio. The Galaxy S does. You'll have to rely on internet radio on the Nexus S.
I hope I wasn't too biased!
Androyed said:
First of all, I got to say that I only have the Nexus S, and not the Galaxy S, just like most of the people on this forum. That's why my opinion may be biased.
From what I've heard, the Nexus S is certainly smoother than the Galaxy S, mainly because there is no Touchwiz. The internet browsing on the Nexus S is indeed not perfect (on the standard browser that is), but I believe that's a problem of most of the Android devices. Tip: download a new browser from the market. Opera and Miren Browser are one of the fastest.
If you are going to use Google Services like Youtube much, then I recommend the Nexus S, since you'll be sure to get updates from Google for a long time.
As for Skype, I don't see a reason why it would work better on the Nexus S than on the Galaxy S, or the other way around. I wouldn't use Skype anyway, the application is far from perfect (your battery will drain like there's no tomorrow, although there are certain apps that prevent that).
In my eyes, the Nexus S is basically a better Galaxy S. Faster, slicker design and faster updates. Oh, one thing that may be important to you: the Nexus S doesn't have FM radio. The Galaxy S does. You'll have to rely on internet radio on the Nexus S.
I hope I wasn't too biased!
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no no no you are not biased at all. Very objective
hm.. that's one thing I've concerned.. update directly from Google as it's the reference phone! alright. I'll think about it again.
But how is the opera web browser? is it working well? I want to see how smooth it is!
jorkobe23 said:
no no no you are not biased at all. Very objective
hm.. that's one thing I've concerned.. update directly from Google as it's the reference phone! alright. I'll think about it again.
But how is the opera web browser? is it working well? I want to see how smooth it is!
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The opera web browser adds lots of functionality (like tabs, still can't believe the stock browser doesn't have that) and has (sort of) proven to be the fastest.
One more thing in favor of the Nexus S: it's easier to root and install custom ROMs, which will make it even faster. I don't know if you are interested in that, but since you already are on XDA, I figured that might be important to you.
Androyed said:
The opera web browser adds lots of functionality (like tabs, still can't believe the stock browser doesn't have that) and has (sort of) proven to be the fastest.
One more thing in favor of the Nexus S: it's easier to root and install custom ROMs, which will make it even faster. I don't know if you are interested in that, but since you already are on XDA, I figured that might be important to you.
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Oh, cool. Yeah I'd like to try some custom roms.
But one problem is when I asked my gf which one looks better, she said galaxy s
I think she likes more iphone-like a phone.
jorkobe23 said:
Oh, cool. Yeah I'd like to try some custom roms.
But one problem is when I asked my gf which one looks better, she said galaxy s
I think she likes more iphone-like a phone.
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Time to get a new girl friend
you probably should take a nexus to you and a galaxy to your girlfriend. =o)
in my opinion, nexus is best than galaxy, except for browser, stock browser in nexus is really bad (some web pages are impossible to use), specially when you use opera browser and see how smooth it can be (that's the point you say 'wtf, what's wrong with stock one?')
I just happen to have both on my desk. The Samsung Galaxy S is my personal Phone and the Nexus S is my development Phone (I got a Milestone and a Galaxy Tab too).
What I like about Galaxy S:
Slightly thinner than Nexus S. Not much but I notice it.
MicroSD card slot. Missing in Nexus S
FM Radio.
Touchwiz notification area icons. IMHO a better place than a widget to quick access to power controls (and besides it has the very useful orientation locking button not present in default power controls widget).
Hardware home button. More comfortable to get screen back on rather than using power button all the time (the only choice on Nexus S).
What I like about Nexus S:
NFC. Interesting in my case for work but not very useful at present due to lack of support/information (need card emulation mode)
Development. You always get up-to-date versions of Android first (from Google) and development is less hassle than on other phones (rom building/flashing directly supported with standard Google tools). No mess with bootloaders, propietary flashing programs (Odin for Galaxy S) and no need to go with unofficial sources such as Cyanogen (Samsung S not yet supported, it will be from next version 7.1).
Camera flash. I miss it sometimes on my Galaxy S.
My personal choice. For everyday use I prefer my Galaxy S. For pure development or just to be always up-to-date Nexus S.
Note: Some people are discussing about software. You must take into consideration that hardware is almost the same in both models. I have not noticed noticeable performance differences. Nonetheless I have not used the Nexus S very much yet. I do have experienced performance improvements on my Galaxy S upgrading to new firmwares. Currently I have installed "F1 Series V6" which is a little modification over stock 2.3.4 GB Samsung firmware. It works great and my Quadrant score is around 2000. My advice is software can be changed/improved after you purchase your phone. Hardware can't. So choosing a phone based on my XXXX app run a little bit smother on this phone with firmware YYYY is not a wise decision, because those measurements are not very accurate and can vary over time. Both phones have virtually the same hardware, so they should more or less run the applications with practically no difference in performance.
Just my 2 cents.
m0rtadelo said:
Some people are discussing about software. You must take into consideration that hardware is almost the same in both models. I have not noticed noticeable performance differences. Nonetheless I have not used the Nexus S very much yet. I do have experienced performance improvements on my Galaxy S upgrading to new firmwares. Currently I have installed "F1 Series V6" which is a little modification over stock 2.3.4 GB Samsung firmware. It works great and my Quadrant score is around 2000. My advice is software can be changed/improved after you purchase your phone. Hardware can't. So choosing a phone based on my XXXX app run a little bit smother on this phone with firmware YYYY is not a wise decision, because those measurements are not very accurate and can vary over time. Both phones have virtually the same hardware, so they should more or less run the applications with practically no difference in performance.
Just my 2 cents.
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that's quite oposite from what i think about it, today i make my decisions looking for software, it could make a crappy phone works nice and a 'dream' phone a hell (like atrix, to me), sure you can always tweak to get it better and when everything is great, Google releases a new android and the cycle starts again: new roms, new kernels and "when, where, why" start to pop in general forum. It's just not fun anymore (for me).
The thing is: I flashed all roms and all kernels from dev section in my nexus and couldn't find anything even close to stock setup. Nexus stock is just solid (despite lack of some good features).
i think chasing hard specs is not a wise decision anymore (besides, it's a endless chase), if you need a sd card slot, or fm radio, or HD camera, you should go with sgs. if you don't care about it and want a device that just works as soon as you get it out of the box, so... =o)
to resume, that is exactly what i think: http://thisismynext.com/2011/05/30/coming-nexus-s/
sorry for my engrish! =o)
The only reason why browsing on the Galaxy S is smoother is because it uses hardware acceleration. And another browser to worth mentioning in that list would be Dolphin Browser HD. It's a very smooth browser.
I came from a Samsung Vibrant (Galaxy S) to a Nexus S for its developmental purposes. Some may argue that there are not many ROMs. But all in honesty, the ROMs coming out to the Galaxy S are mainly all based on TouchWiz. They're all the same ROM behind the hood and just appear different. Now there is CM7, so things might of changed now. But regardless, to install CM7.. you'd have to go through a long process of changing its partition type from RFS to ext4.
I still don't look back at the Galaxy S. The only feature I can primarily say that I miss are the codecs, but with DICE Player. That filled the missing part so now I'm able to watch 720p without any lag.
But yeah, +1 on Google updates. When Ice Cream Sandwich is announced later this year, the Nexus S will be one of the first phones to get it.
Galaxy S? Good luck. Samsung will be busy updating their current flagship phone, Galaxy S2. And if you're in the U.S. it'll take even longer because it'll have to go through approval with the carrier and addition of their bloat blah blah blah. the list goes on.
Update coming from Google?
Google makes update -> OTA
Update coming from Samsung in the U.S.?
Samsung makes updates -> Goes through approval process with carrier -> OTA
And with the carriers, usually multiple revisions have to satisfy the carrier before its approved.
Nexus S hands down.
I also say the nexus s. I own both galaxy s and nexus s. My vibrant is decent but the nexus s blows it out the water. U.S. phones still don't have gingerbread either and froyo on the galaxy s looks retarded. It really does, the nexus s software looks slick and sexy. The browser lag is over blown. It's not that bad at.
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I own a Captivate and just bought a Nexus S today and I will give it to the NS.
Looks better, feels better, smoother and as retarded as it sounds, you feel better mentally. This is all Google and Google only. No workarounds, fixes, patches or anything to make this phone run as it should.
I could go on forever to discuss the pros (and also some cons) but they are redundant and have been discussed to death. It comes down to the Nexus S being a more refined and polished version of the Galaxy S.
dunkerya said:
The browser lag is over blown. It's not that bad at.
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So, make a test for me: go to http://www.gizmodo.com.br/conteudo/...orkut-continua-vivo-e-aparentemente-saudavel/
Wait it loads, and roll to end of the page... does it work fine for you?
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Galaxy S has FM and comes with Swype (though you can get this thru beta program on NS)
Nexus S screen looked much better after the 2.3.3 update, now galaxy S screens look too blueish for me.
Both of them have voodoo sound support, so its all good!
Thanks guys!
I just wanna know which one is better between amoled or super lcd.
I live in New Zealand and here they only sell super lcd version..(GT-i9023)
I heard Super LCD version is better for battery efficiency and reading a text.
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Thanks guys!
I just wanna know which one is better between amoled or super lcd.
I live in New Zealand and here they only sell super lcd version..(GT-i9023)
I heard Super LCD version is better for battery efficiency and reading a text.
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Read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=921861. I once started it when I was trying to find the real difference between (Super Clear) LCD and (Super) AMOLED. The thread has tons of pictures, videos, experiences, etc. Read it through. If that's not enough (I doubt it), you can read this thread that I made on a dutch forum. You probably don't speak dutch, but you could translate it. It is a very informative thread about the difference between LCD and AMOLED. It took me a while to make, but it was worth it. Keep in mind though that there is a difference between Super LCD and Super Clear LCD. A big difference.
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Read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=921861. I once started it when I was trying to find the real difference between (Super Clear) LCD and (Super) AMOLED. The thread has tons of pictures, videos, experiences, etc. Read it through. If that's not enough (I doubt it), you can read this thread that I made on a dutch forum. You probably don't speak dutch, but you could translate it. It is a very informative thread about the difference between LCD and AMOLED. It took me a while to make, but it was worth it. Keep in mind though that there is a difference between Super LCD and Super Clear LCD. A big difference.
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Nice review mate!
I just read your thread and I feel Super Clear LCD feels more like iPhoney.
I like the retina display as well as Super Amoled but for web browsing I guess Super Clear LCD is better.
jorkobe23 said:
Nice review mate!
I just read your thread and I feel Super Clear LCD feels more like iPhoney.
I like the retina display as well as Super Amoled but for web browsing I guess Super Clear LCD is better.
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The retina display is very much undersaturated, like 40 percent. Just like Super AMOLED is like 40 percent oversaturated. Super Clear LCD's colors are much more natural.
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The retina display is very much undersaturated, like 40 percent. Just like Super AMOLED is like 40 percent oversaturated. Super Clear LCD's colors are much more natural.
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Ah really?
But I want to know about how it is different when I read the text on the phone.
Retina display is amazing for web browsing and reading books.
is Super clear lcd like that?
jorkobe23 said:
Ah really?
But I want to know about how it is different when I read the text on the phone.
Retina display is amazing for web browsing and reading books.
is Super clear lcd like that?
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Not that sharp as the retina display, although that has nothing to do with the fact that it is a retina display.
Iphone 4 resolution is higher than Nexus S resolution. And the screen of the iPhone 4 is smaller. But like I said, that has nothing to do with the fact that it is a retina display.
One thing I can say you is that whites are very easy to the eye on Super Clear LCD. With Opera or another web-browser that isn't as laggy as stock browser, you'll have a pleasant experience. True, the resolution isn't as high as the iPhones resolution, but the bigger screen also has an advantage of course.

[Q] Why didn't we all chose the Nexus S?

I have recently seen a YouTube video in which ICS was running perfectly on the Nexus S.
Today I saw a story on Engadget.com that ICS is rolling over to Google employees (those all use Nexus S it seems), and the official release is due any day now.
[http://androidandme.com/2011/12/dev...campaign=Feed:+androidandme+(Android+and+Me)]
First of all, that's cool!
Second, why didn't we all chose to go with the NEXUS S?
Full support, source code in the open, immediate updates....
WHAT AM I MISSING?
Thanks
1.DUAL CORE a smooth as iOS if u may..
2.8 MP CAMERA with Half and FULL HD recording
4.STOCK android(if only g2x had not been with tegra 2 ICS ports would have been very very early for this device)
5.Awesome Build not as plasticy as NS
6.Tegra GAMES(official nor using plugins),
7.HDMI OUT and etc etc...
NS has only one advantage... quicker updates....nothin more literally.
just my thoughts.
I already had a Vibrant and wanted something faster. Nexus S was basically a Vibrant with better software and LESS storage.
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I already had a Vibrant and wanted something faster. Nexus S was basically a Vibrant with better software and LESS storage.
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Thanks. Are you suggesting that the Nexus S is SLOWER than the G2x?
Ok, so you right. Because I had a Vibrant as well, and did notice just how fast the G2x is. B-U-T, isn't ICS going to change that?
You don't choose a Nexus S because Samsung devices suck. Problematic hardware and questionable firmware. Nexus S is also a single core device and is basically a slightly updated Galaxy S device. Also, if they do a lower power shutdown the internal sd can get corrupted and if you have not previously unlocked the bootloader there is nothing you can do to fix the device and it is permanently soft bricked (has to be sent to Samsung for warranty replacement). The G2X is a far superior device.
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Thanks. Are you suggesting that the Nexus S is SLOWER than the G2x?
Ok, so you right. Because I had a Vibrant as well, and did notice just how fast the G2x is. B-U-T, isn't ICS going to change that?
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You don't choose a Nexus S because Samsung devices suck. Problematic hardware and questionable firmware. Nexus S is also a single core device and is basically a slightly updated Galaxy S device. Also, if they do a lower power shutdown the internal sd can get corrupted and if you have not previously unlocked the bootloader there is nothing you can do to fix the device and it is permanently soft bricked (has to be sent to Samsung for warranty replacement). The G2X is a far superior device.
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Too right, jboxer..... Although I liked certain things about my Vibrant, there were plenty I didn't. The thing I liked the MOST was the 16gb (12 usable) internal storage + SD Card, and the Nexus S took away the SD Card's additional storage.
And, we are CERTAINLY suggesting the Nexus S is slower than the G2X... single core processor for one... slower Ram if I'm not mistaken as well. Camera quality is worse.
And, ICS may be nice, but it isn't going to turn sow's ears into silk. That is, it won't make a phone any faster than it already is.
Have you looked at what ICS really is? As I in what it legitimately does that gingerbread doesn't?
Aside from looks (which are replicable with themes) its not that much.
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LordButtersI said:
Have you looked at what ICS really is? As I in what it legitimately does that gingerbread doesn't?
Aside from looks (which are replicable with themes) its not that much.
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ICS will fully implement multi-thread processing, which Gingerbread doesn't do. That alone should speed up multi-core devices quite a bit. In Gingerbread the dual cores are inefficiently used.
I have both and I say both are GREAT.
NS has the very best speaker like other Samsung models, and voice quality is decent (not badly compressed like other Samsung)
AMOLED + Voodoo are prefect combination and I fine tuned the screen to perfection.
G2x with Eagleblood 2.4 is GOOD even there are few minor bugs.
It is VERY FAST (2500 on quadrant)
Good color screen (bleeding is minimal)
5GB+SD (I have not tried FAT64 FS microSDXC yet as it's not commercially available).
720p video recording (Google app)
Good stuff!
The reason I brought this issue up, is because me and a friend had a discussion about his next phone (he is now with Vibrant). I said that since him and I are total geeks when it comes to our devices (test every ROM, change themes, and we actually CARE about that stuff [i guess we are bored as well, even though we're not kids anymore] ), then the NUMBER ONE thing that we need to consider, is DEVELOPMENT!
If a device is a good device, but has no dev, no "action" when it comes to ROMs, tweaks, kernels and so on, than it's just not a fun device to own.
A device that is just "plain good" would be good for our wives (and indeed, how awful it was when I tried to show my wife why CM7 is awesome - wow that went bad , but not good for us geeksters
ICS is built for dual-core devices. ofcause nexus s will run ICS but i doubt it's any faster
if not for LG, devs could have released ICS port for G2x with hw acceleration(see the dev forum)
nexus is definitely slower than g2x. the only thing makes it good is official google support

Android phone without screen lag?

Hi all, I've had about 5 different Android powered phones beginning with the og Droid, to my current DroidX and Motorola Xoom. The screen kind of lags for both devices and it is kind of annoying. I use my wives iPad and iPhone every now and then, but I really prefer Android. There is no screen lag on either of her devices. Is there any new phone available that doesn't have this issue? I'm interested in the galaxy nexus, but the one I tested in the store had the same kind if lag... Although everything was running at one time, so I don't know if it was for that reason or what. I'm on Verizon if that helps. Thanks for any info!
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There's no perfect device with zero lag.
The way iOS and Android function is just different, there's a thread detailing how this works, don't have it on hand.
In Android land, the closest you will get to a totally lag free experience is the Galaxy S2. Too bad Verizon doesnt carry it...
.....you're talking a dx here. Terrible software.
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I agree that no phone is completely lag free, but custom roms/kernels make a huge difference, which is why we all post/lurk here For me, changing the rom and kernel on my Galaxy Nexus makes it into a totally different phone with significantly less lag. I think if you upgraded to a GN and tricked it out, you'd be much happier than you are with your DX.
The gs2 makes a valiant attempt. If you're stuck with android, that's your best option.
The galaxy s2 has less lag than the iphone 4s. You need to get the one x or SGS3 and I am sure they will not lag.( Ok not 100% true, becuase I can make any thing lag, iphone 4 and 4s, i7 PC with GTX 580 6GB of DRR3 1600mhz ram, PS3, Droid razr, SGS2 and my laptop.)
I have made them all lag by runing bone crushing app or content that made them yell nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. I can tell you how I made the iphones lag, but really they are over rated.
Make a Lumia lag, try it. Android lags worse than any other OS regardless of hardware, you trade that level of user experience for infinite customization. For most, that's a fair trade-off.
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Make a Lumia lag, try it. Android lags worse than any other OS regardless of hardware, you trade that level of user experience for infinite customization. For most, that's a fair trade-off.
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Lumia lag....see later part of following review
http://thenokiablog.com/2011/11/09/nokia-lumia-800-review/
Dave
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Hmmm, lag? I thought that has to do with phone overloaded or using a poorly designed rom? I use the htc inc S, lags a little now, but not when it was stock, lag free. Thats y i await the official ics, htc says april
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SGS2 is still the most lag free android out there
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Like others said all devices lag but rare you see it in iOS or a windows phone. Its just Android lags the most and it doesn't matter how powerful the hardware gets it's still gonna lag until the OS is completely rewritten.
there cant be no lag, and dont compare android to iphone, iphone os is specificly built for the iphone, only 1 device. but android is just built for hundreds of devices, it would be just extremly time consuming and costly for each company to develop their own android for every phone they release. and thats why android lags.
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there cant be no lag, and dont compare android to iphone, iphone os is specificly built for the iphone, only 1 device. but android is just built for hundreds of devices, it would be just extremly time consuming and costly for each company to develop their own android for every phone they release. and thats why android lags.
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Also it is purely due to the fact that you can multi task with Android. The iPhone doesnt do true multitasking... The only time my GS2 lags is when I have multiple downloads in progress, streaming movies to my tv/xbox and playing games.
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What do you mean by screen lag exactly? Are you talking about touchscreen response time? If so, then there's still a while before we get to near 0ms delay on commercially available phones, although Microsoft have made a touchscreen display with a 1ms delay.
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What do you mean by screen lag exactly? Are you talking about touchscreen response time? If so, then there's still a while before we get to near 0ms delay on commercially available phones, although Microsoft have made a touchscreen display with a 1ms delay.
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No, I believe they are refering to when you scroll through things sometimes it lags. Like say sometimed you scroll between homescreens, sometimes it wont go smoothy like it is meant too.
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Still not possible even today. The lag on newer phones is worse than ancient phones like the S2. Unoptimised OS can't handle the higher resolution.
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Hi all, I've had about 5 different Android powered phones beginning with the og Droid, to my current DroidX and Motorola Xoom. The screen kind of lags for both devices and it is kind of annoying. I use my wives iPad and iPhone every now and then, but I really prefer Android. There is no screen lag on either of her devices. Is there any new phone available that doesn't have this issue? I'm interested in the galaxy nexus, but the one I tested in the store had the same kind if lag... Although everything was running at one time, so I don't know if it was for that reason or what. I'm on Verizon if that helps. Thanks for any info!
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http://nexus7.wonderhowto.com/how-t...ce-your-nexus-7s-overall-performance-0147756/
lgp990
i have recently an lgp990 but when i want use smarth flash and i want go to stock gingerbread plz post a backup of it i have now ics on it whit cwm but can i restore tho stock whit it plz help
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Woa how come the galaxy note browser is so smooth?

Just tried it at bestbuy , and the touchwiz browser is extremely smooth more so than the browser on any phone/ android tablet ive tried. How did samsung achieved this, and how come more browser arent like this?
Lol which android phones have you even used? Android phones have come a long way even from just a year ago thanks to the emergence of dual cores and quad cores now... I also find dolphin browser very nice and the stock browser for ics is fast as well.
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No but im sure samsung did something with touchwiz that no other manufacturer do to make the browser ios smooth
It's not any more smooth than the stock ICS browser.
The Note is just a really powerful device. That's probably why it felt so buttery.
I've read that the touchwizz browser is hardware accelerated. Seeing the hardware on the note is so good, you'll probably notice the improvement a bit more than other chips.
Then again, isn't HWA now default across most apps in ICS? I find chrome Beta overall smooth, but then it doesn't have flash. Stock browser is alright.
The ICS stock browser has come a long ways since Gingerbread, I find myself using it the most on my Touchpad. I would like to see Google make the Android browser able to receive updates from them, like Google Play so that it stays up to date in the future.
The smoothest browser I've ever used is Opera. On my Galaxy S, stock ics browser is quite smooth when panning around but when you pinch to zoom out there's still some sluggish
Samsung devices have GPU accelerated browser. Since froyo. Which is coming to AOSP with ICS.
Another trick. We have panaroma mode on eclair. Which is new on ICS.
Hardware acceleration that is optimized well. Both my galaxy s and s2 are bloody smooth with heavy flash content.
Stock ics browser is a **** house in the comparison. i have tried cm, aokp and they all suck at browser smoothness, ics so far has managed to achieve a semi smooth ui, but its just not up to par in modern day os.
The positive thing is that aosp ics had improve a lot over gingerbread and under
Yeah, I only realized his smooth Android could really be after first trying out the SGS2 last year. I believe Samsung include GPU acceleration on it.
I'm using a Desire S with CM7 based ROM with hardware acceleration turned on, and it makes a notable smoothness performance increase. Obviously not as good as the note though, as the note has a dual core chip.
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Yeah, I only realized his smooth Android could really be after first trying out the SGS2 last year. I believe Samsung include GPU acceleration on it.
I'm using a Desire S with CM7 based ROM with hardware acceleration turned on, and it makes a notable smoothness performance increase. Obviously not as good as the note though, as the note has a dual core chip.
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It has got nothing to do with dual core.
Even my Galaxy S lives very close to my SGS2 and my friend's iPod touch 4G in terms of smoothness in websites even with heavy flash content.
Got a Note today, and I've found it less smooth than the N900 it's supposed to replace... Hopefully it's a faulty one or something
I confirm that stock samsung browser is damn smooth.
Used the custom GC Checkrom NoteHD V6, and I was always amazed by the browser's smoothness. Awesome.
Now I am on a CM9 rom, and no browser are that smooth ...
Nevertheless, ICS browsers are (as far as i am concerned) more user friendly, and allow to switch quickly between tabs and favorites pages.

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