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Hi,
I didn't know what happened.. what My Sensation now take about 6 to 7 hours to complete from 15% to 100% while before i just took 3 hours to complete the charging...
Edit: I knew the reason .. I used Nokia charger and it take more time (double) than the Original HTC charger.. i think mainly because of the charger...
possibly bad hardware, or a ****ty battery, i get full charge from 2% to 100% in about 3 hrs
I had the same problem, sometimes it goes fast, other times it just takes ages, aslo got the non responsive touch screen issue oh, and gps won't fix, it cant find more than 5 sattelites, hurray!
I'm getting this on mains charging now also.
Not sure why - has anyone tried a "power off" charge versus a "power on" charge?
I always charge my phone power off. light to moderate use I get at least a day before charging.
Maybe that's firmware dependent. Some ppl noticed the same but after updating from 1.28.xxx.x to 1.35.xxx.x battery performance, battery monitor behavio(u)r and charging time are improved as well as other bugs fixed. But it's not officially released yet.
HTH
I'm using the 1.35.401 update, and still have this problem, aswell as bad gps reception, high battery drain, and long charge time.
im rocking 1.29.531.2 stock for my fone, and no problems with the battery at all, quick charges, and good to great battery life.
as for the GPS, i think everyone is having that issue right now, the most i ever got was on a completely clear day, 7 satellites :/
my HD2 after running the canada fix thru CWM got a minimum of 12 or a clear day
lucky for me i dont use the GPS that often, if ever
EDIT: also, im using the stock charger about 3 out of 4 of my charges, the rest are from my lappy via usb
It's slow at charging. Get the wall charger from tmobile or use a Samsung galaxy s charger. The galaxy s charger will charge it way faster than the stock htc charger.
ptruman said:
I'm getting this on mains charging now also.
Not sure why - has anyone tried a "power off" charge versus a "power on" charge?
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I can honestly say that it takes mine about an hour longer to charger while power off than while power is on, don't know y tho. So now I usually just let it drain to about 3% n then charge it..
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If you want your battery to last longer you shouldn't let it drain more than down to 20%, due to the nature of the lithium battery
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If you want your battery to last longer you shouldn't let it drain more than down to 20%, due to the nature of the lithium battery
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Any proof/literature on this or this is just what u do n u feel like it helps
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its actually a fact, most ppl who have used Li-Ion for at least the past decade know that if you want the best performance, dont let it drop below 15-20% before charging, for optimum batter life and sustainablilty.
same thing goes for if you arent going to use the device for a long time (min. 1 month) charge it to around 50%, then decomission, and the battery will "keep" very well
EDIT: because flamers love their link complaints http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
with 1.35 chargin is much faster. really it's already available ota for unbranded, branded phone owners need to w8 for their carrier ... :\
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It's slow at charging. Get the wall charger from tmobile or use a Samsung galaxy s charger. The galaxy s charger will charge it way faster than the stock htc charger.
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i'm interesting by your proposition,could you explain why galaxy s charger is faster than htc charger?
i use to wait 3 hours(-+) for 25 to 100 pcent, how galaxy s charger is faster?
thank you!
ps:sorry for my english but look at my location!!!!!
harnahud said:
i'm interesting by your proposition,could you explain why galaxy s charger is faster than htc charger?
i use to wait 3 hours(-+) for 25 to 100 pcent, how galaxy s charger is faster?
thank you!
ps:sorry for my english but look at my location!!!!!
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It charges faster because it charges faster. Lol
Idk why it does, but it does. It's the same for my hd2. A friend gave me the galaxy charger for a extra. I tried the charget and it just charged faster for my hd2. So when I got my sensation and saw that the stock charger was slow like the hd2, I tried the galaxy one, sure enough, it was faster too.
Thanks for your informations...
Just got 1.35.163.1
Some people says that improve the charging time.
I will report this tomorrow.
And i will test with sgs charger too!
I have a US version stock. As you know we have no updates yet and no s-off. My phone charges fast sometimes, other times it can be on the wall charger for 6+ hours and not be fully charged. I think its a software issue honestly.
Yes as said earlier recharge when it's at 20% the battery will hold much longer the batteryuniversity is my source too Also spare batteries should be kept at 50% and kept in the refrigerator when not in use.
Hmm the new update didn't do much for charge time for me though.
the charger that comes with the sensation is ~1A which is kinda slow when the phone is on, not as bad as others with only 500mA usb... you should be able to find a usb that give a higher A output and still retain the usb plug (ive seen 1.5A before cant remember where)... failing that if your ingenious you can splice through a different charger and make your own.. could achieve 2A+ but your could burn ya house down or blow your battery up in the process
This is a poll. Again, its your normal day use.
My finding so far: my battery will deplete faster if its charged with turbo charger. I have two MXPE's : one for me and one for my wife. I charged hers to 100% using Turbo and mine with normal charger. Same settings for Moto display, same brightness level and pretty much similar usages. In fact, I use my phone more than her because I am somewhat more active on whatsapp. Her phone deleted faster than mine.
Have you guys noticed any difference in this respect? I am thinking I am going to use normal charger for night and use turbo charger only in a pinch.
I've read this assertion elsewhere too - that any quick charged phone depletes battery faster. Actually I charged my battery with my old slow charger last night to see if I'd lose less today. Subjectively (because my usage isn't really consistent), it seems like maybe the phone is discharging more slowly...
Could be a possibility but i have my lg g3 that i used for a year.. Co pairing my faily usage i get about the same hours of ost.
I think hers may be going down faster maybe because of the background apps or the ost shes using? U cant say ur using the same apps unless u tried them both for ur self..
I know this is the case. I have a Tablet and Phone when I charge them with slightly higher power chargers they deplete at a much faster rate. And when I charge with the slower charger they hold a charge much longer.
(Although bare in mind I'm talking about non Quick Charging devices so maybe that plays a huge part lol but I dont use Quick Chargers on them just slightly faster chargers when I have no choice.)
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For those of you that have noticed faster battery loss after using the quick charge have you tried the non quick charger for a night charge than at a random time used the car quick charge charger? Does the time differ at all than?
I think this needs more testing. I need to do the test on my phone alone on 2 consecutive working days.
I don't understand what the logic behind this theory would be. Just because one reviewer mentioned it all of a sudden its a thing? Not trying to argue just don't understand the logic. The battery/phone don't heat while turbo charging so why would battery deplete faster?
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I don't understand what the logic behind this theory would be. Just because one reviewer mentioned it all of a sudden its a thing? Not trying to argue just don't understand the logic. The battery/phone don't heat while turbo charging so why would battery deplete faster?
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A lot of people report the device gets hot when turbo charging. By the nature of the forcing of charge and the small footprint, how could it not get somewhat hot? I do not use fast charging on my Pure due to this.
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This is a poll. Again, its your normal day use.
My finding so far: my battery will deplete faster if its charged with turbo charger. I have two MXPE's : one for me and one for my wife. I charged hers to 100% using Turbo and mine with normal charger. Same settings for Moto display, same brightness level and pretty much similar usages. In fact, I use my phone more than her because I am somewhat more active on whatsapp. Her phone deleted faster than mine.
Have you guys noticed any difference in this respect? I am thinking I am going to use normal charger for night and use turbo charger only in a pinch.
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Charging fast is bad for the battery, so it only makes sense for her not to last as long.
My wife wears down faster when I quick charge her. I only do it when I need her for short bursts.
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As I understand turbo change. The phone only utilizes turbo charge for the 0-85 or so, then the phone uses standard charging to top the battery off. I have also not noticed any heat while charging using the OEM charger provided out of the box. Believe what you will. I just don't care how you charge your battery.
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Why would the phone discharge faster after a quick charge? Isn't one hundred percent one hundred percent? I'm not flaming, I'm actually curious if there's a difference.
Idk who came up with this, your battery does not drain faster when its charged faster, its not logical.. All turbo charge or any type of quick charge does is supplies more a more faster charging rate based on the volts and amps it puts out. This should not effect your batteries life in anyway.
I can understand the thinking behind this but there is absolutely no way you can test this correctly because you aren't doing the EXACT same usage every day. Something will always differ.
Was this ever an issue with previous Moto X's?
After about a week's use I feel like the battery has a break in period. I was getting horrible battery at first. The past few days have been par (4ish hours SOT). I've only used the OEM Turbo chargers once but I have several other Turbo chargers (mainly from Galaxy's, Turbo's, etc). Almost every charger in my house could be considered a "Turbo charger" but I only receive the notification that the device recognizes a turbo charge on the OEM charger.
That said, I have worse battery life if I charge all night. It's as if the battery fully charges, then depletes, but still registers as 100%. So shortly taking it off the charger, the battery will quickly drop to low 90's and soon into the 80's. If I charge to 100% and unplug soon after my battery life is as expected.
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After about a week's use I feel like the battery has a break in period. I was getting horrible battery at first. The past few days have been par (4ish hours SOT). I've only used the OEM Turbo chargers once but I have several other Turbo chargers (mainly from Galaxy's, Turbo's, etc). Almost every charger in my house could be considered a "Turbo charger" but I only receive the notification that the device recognizes a turbo charge on the OEM charger.
That said, I have worse battery life if I charge all night. It's as if the battery fully charges, then depletes, but still registers as 100%. So shortly taking it off the charger, the battery will quickly drop to low 90's and soon into the 80's. If I charge to 100% and unplug soon after my battery life is as expected.
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You are making an interesting point here. Anyone else can confirm?
I'm going to do a test myself. Before that I want to add that I've noticed when charging with turbocharger(I've used only the OEM's) the charged capacity tends to go a little over the 3000mha, it becomes something like ~3300mha and after plugging out it still stays like that until 90% where it stats under 3000mha charged.
I charge every night with slow charge. I am at 95% after 1 hour and 45 minutes unplugged. Checked some news a few texts and 2 phone calls. Seems normal to me.
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Battery drain is pretty evident. I am on MM Indian ROM and below are the findings.
1. Used turbo charger to top it up at 100%. Dis-connected the charger. WIFI is enabled and network is 2G (data off). All background app sync is disabled, and the only major applications running in background are firefox and whatsapp.
With medium brightness and browsing, the battery will drop to 97-98% within 5-8 minutes.
2. 100% turbo-charged at night. WIFI enabled/2G network (Data off). Woke up in the morning after 6 hours and battery is good at 98%
WIFI off and network moved to 4G/data and after browsing for 10 minutes, the battery falls to 85%
3. Instead of turbo charger, used Xaiomi MI pad charger (non-turbo) and my experience with #1 and #2 are pretty much the same.
Everybody knows first smartwatch problem is battery. Having to charge it daily is like a nightmare.
But there is anything still worst? Yes, if you have the S2 you know it: the ****ing slow charge!
I am still surprised, and cannot undertand, how can it be. Ig the battery capacity is less than 300mah, and the charger is 700mah/h, why it takes so long to get it charged?
I think Samsung had a big error in this issue.
My previous Pebble Time battery lasts for 5/6 days, and what was still better is that in 30 minutes you have battery full.
You can fail in one of the two factors (battery duration or time to charge), but not in both. And Samsung did it.
Mine takes ~ 2hrs to full charge.
Agree, too slow.
I shut down the watch for faster recharge, but haven't used a stopwatch so far. I have to reload every second night and i am fine with it
Mine charges pretty fast, less than a hour and it is full. But another thing you have to look at is this is wireless charging which charges slower than regular charging. No gold contact points or anything. FYI I have the 3g version, don't know if that makes a difference or not.
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Mine takes around 2 hours too. It's true that QI normally is slower than cable, but it depends also in the power of the chargues. Normal QI chargers are 1000mah and they charge batteries 10x bigger en same time... and s2 charger is less than half the power!
So the problem is not the charger...
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Sure you can apply a higher current to charge, but most battery with that size just cannot affort that high current and will die very soon, so many will limit the current. There exist small battery can recharge at high current, just not many using it.
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My previous Pebble Time battery lasts for 5/6 days, and what was still better is that in 30 minutes you have battery full.
You can fail in one of the two factors (battery duration or time to charge), but not in both. And Samsung did it.
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Pebble Time battery size is only 150mah and charges via a wired connection. No one is failing anything.
Wireless charging has losses maybe around 30-50%. So that 700mA of input from the charger will only give around 350-490mA of output. Plus the fact that we charge it while the watch is powered on will also be another factor to slow down the charging.
Also, pebble doesn't give you plenty of options to do so lesser user interface means lesser battery drainage, not like with the s2, you can do plenty of stuff which will result in you always touching and using the watch.
As for me, i've personally tested the watch. At minimal usage (maybe just the same usage I do when I was using a pebble) i got 5 straight days without charging. And I fully charge it at 1.5 to 2hrs.
Ps. Sorry for bad english.
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2hrs here. Make sure you use the supplied cable, I find if I use my s6 one with my Gear or Tab S it is slower ...
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FYI I have the 3g version, don't know if that makes a difference or not.
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It may. The 3G version uses a Qualcomm SoC and it may support QuickCharge. I haven't timed my 3G but I'd guess it charges in an hour-ish. I also keep it off when charging.
So, I own this phone for a few weeks now and I got pretty frustrated about the battery life on this phone as I was getting 3 hrs of SOT a best.
Then I decided not to stress the battery so much by charging it with the included turbopower 25 charger all the time, and use my old (5V 2.1A) charger overnight instead. Then I was surprised to see my SOT going up to about 4.5-5hrs.
I did some research about fast charging techonlogy and found out that when you fast charge you typically don't get as much charge into a battery as with a slow charge.
I still use the turbo charger when I am short on time, but using my regular one definetely does add more juice to the battery, thus, helping it last throughout the day.
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So, I own this phone for a few weeks now and I got pretty frustrated about the battery life on this phone as I was getting 3 hrs of SOT a best.
Then I decided not to stress the battery so much by charging it with the included turbopower 25 charger all the time, and use my old (5V 2.1A) charger overnight instead. Then I was surprised to see my SOT going up to about 4.5-5hrs.
I did some research about fast charging techonlogy and found out that when you fast charge you typically don't get as much charge into a battery as with a slow charge.
I still use the turbo charger when I am short on time, but using my regular one definetely does add more juice to the battery, thus, helping it last throughout the day.
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Will definitely try that out. Cuz my usage gets me around 4 -4.5 or even 6 if I read a little. So if this happens for me too I'm gonna get some nice battery life.
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Will definitely try that out. Cuz my usage gets me around 4 -4.5 or even 6 if I read a little. So if this happens for me too I'm gonna get some nice battery life.
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Please do report
It doesn't really matter, at least not that significantly... something else is the cause.
Using a turbo charger could change the longevity of the battery, over time, due to heat buildup and breakdown of the internal components due to more stress, but it wouldn't just "get better" switching to standard charger... I charge my phone half the week on a standard charger when at home, and when traveling I use a quick charger. If I am on either at home or on the road for a few weeks at a time and my battery life doesn't change. Well, not because of the charger, but at home I am within 30' of a very high quality WiFi router all the time and essentially never on mobile data, on the road it's the complete opposite.
If you did your researching into Qualcomm's Quick Charge 2.0 (and higher) standards you would see that the issue of batteries not getting a full charge from the original QuickCharge/Fast Charge standard has been remedied with high voltage charging automatically downgraded to "standard" voltage charging during about the last 10% of the charge cycle to allow the battery to cool and take a full charge.
Not doubting your getting better SOT, just your analysis of the reason why are...
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It doesn't really matter, at least not that significantly... something else is the cause.
Using a turbo charger could change the longevity of the battery, over time, due to heat buildup and breakdown of the internal components due to more stress, but it wouldn't just "get better" switching to standard charger... I charge my phone half the week on a standard charger when at home, and when traveling I use a quick charger. If I am on either at home or on the road for a few weeks at a time and my battery life doesn't change. Well, not because of the charger, but at home I am within 30' of a very high quality WiFi router all the time and essentially never on mobile data, on the road it's the complete opposite.
If you did your researching into Qualcomm's Quick Charge 2.0 (and higher) standards you would see that the issue of batteries not getting a full charge from the original QuickCharge/Fast Charge standard has been remedied with high voltage charging automatically downgraded to "standard" voltage charging during about the last 10% of the charge cycle to allow the battery to cool and take a full charge.
Not doubting your getting better SOT, just your analysis of the reason why are...
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Maybe you're right, I'm still monitoring my battery life on both chargers, and with the same usage, my battery does last longer when charging with the regular 5V one. I'm mostly on 3G network data and rarely use wifi, as I'm mostly only sleeping or eating at home. Maybe there are other factors making this difference, though i'm pretty sure the charger is the only difference for me. Will report if I notice anything else.
I don't see any big difference, I'm also using standard charger over night and quick when I'm in the hurry. Despite charging methods my sot time is very inconsistant from 2,5h to 4h at best.
To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the OnePlus 6T can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
dash charge (now called fast charge) is crazy fast!!
Still, I would only recommend using that feature if there is a real benefit - i.e. time is of the essence. The battery will age quicker being dash charged all the time.
saw 60 percent at 35 minutes and 38 seconds, which is more or less in line with what OnePlus claims
Incredibly fast compared to my old Honor 8. One example I have is the first charge I did 5 days ago when I had bought it at a pop-up event here in Sweden. I had used it for about 1-2 hours with the screen on when I was setting it up and trying out the phone. Then when I plugged it in, it went from 36% to 75% in just 24 minutes. That's insanely fast
I've also noticed that just like OnePlus claims, the phone basically charges at the same speed with the screen on as if I would have had the screen off.
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Still, I would only recommend using that feature if there is a real benefit - i.e. time is of the essence. The battery will age quicker being dash charged all the time.
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Can you provide any factual basis for this statement? Research or articles from established professionals in the field of battery charging?
Everything I've read from reliable sources state that the biggest impact on battery longevity is temperature. Repeated heating (or extreme cooling for that matter) will accelerate the "aging" process, as you put it. OnePlus has actually solved this problem by offloading the energy conversion that causes heat to the power brick, leaving the phone cool during charging (pretty ingenious). I've also read that not always charging the battery fully to 100% can prolong longevity, which is why you get charging strategies on laptops that will stop charging at 80% or 60% if you leave your laptop plugged in 24/7.
Point being, the ONLY way to slowly charge this device would be to use a third party charger and/or cable.
The reason I ask this, is that the manufacturer, OnePlus, clearly states in their documentation that comes with the phone or dash chargers to ONLY use the charger and cable that came with the phone.
Please charge the OnePlus Dash device only with the official Dash Power Adapter and Dash Type-C Cable. Using unauthorized adapter can be dangerous and may void your warranty.
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I'm not completely opposed to the idea that this could just be a marketing ploy to get you to buy their own adapter and accessories, but again just want to know if there's any substantial proof that fast charging, by itself, degrades the battery faster, of if it's just a case of incorrect tribal knowledge.
Thanks.
You are correct that the rate of charge and discharge alone are not the only deciding factors on lipo life and certainly not the most decisive ones.
Excessive heat, especially on high charge levels, is the biggest factor for increased aging.
As you mentioned extreme charging levels (completely empty or full) will also contribute to faster aging, albeit the impact is not that extreme for these low current-draw Lipos used in our phones (as opposed to high-drain Lipos for instance).
Discharge and Charge at high rates will also contribute to the speed of aging, but not as much as heat.
When a lipo spends most of its time one medium charging levels at moderate temperatures and is only charged and discharged with low rates on it will have the longest service life.
This is common for all Lipos, just how much a low or high rate is for that particular battery differs (low drain, high capacity VS high drain, low capacity cell)
With Lipos everything is a compromise. Max and min voltages, max temperatures, max draw are values the manufacturer has chosen as the best compromise to reach the intended MTBF. All these numbers are not physical absolute barriers.
Charges 0-100% in 1hr 30 mins
Second place after SuperCharge (even first gen) from Huawei. Much better than QC 3.0
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Second place after SuperCharge (even first gen) from Huawei. Much better than QC 3.0
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Nope. Super VOOC (OPPO) is hands down the fastest!
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Nope. Super VOOC (OPPO) is hands down the fastest!
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First of all, how many device support Super VOOC? How many device you can buy outside China with VOOC?
Super VOOC is 50W, the same like Huaweis SuperCharge 2.
Did you test SuperCharge 2 or VOOC?
My OP6T charges up to 100% in 1hr 22mins, so I don't charge overnight anymore. Go to sleep on 40% and charge in the morning
The combo of battery life and crazy fast charging is for the first time breaking me of the "plug it in overnight" habit that I have had since my first cell phone over a decade ago. I can keep my charger at my desk, plug it in for half an hour, and be at 100% with almost no chance of running out before the next morning. That means fewer vampire chargers around the house wasting power, and fewer charge cycles lost leaving the phone plugged in long after it's full. I wish I had swapped to OnePlus sooner - I think I have finally found a phone maker to call my favorite.
The charging Speed with "Dash charge" is amazing.
Within few minutes the battery is from 0% to over 50%!
Generelly I can only say: Amazing battery life. The best I ever had with a phone (except Nokia 3310).
I started to charge when the battery was 5%. It took around 1 hour 20 mins. I can say this to be quite faster when compared to the devices I have used previously, that too when the size of the battery is much bigger than the previous phones.
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The combo of battery life and crazy fast charging is for the first time breaking me of the "plug it in overnight" habit that I have had since my first cell phone over a decade ago. I can keep my charger at my desk, plug it in for half an hour, and be at 100% with almost no chance of running out before the next morning. That means fewer vampire chargers around the house wasting power, and fewer charge cycles lost leaving the phone plugged in long after it's full. I wish I had swapped to OnePlus sooner - I think I have finally found a phone maker to call my favorite.
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The incredibly fast charging, coupled with the insane battery life (especially in dark mode) has made me totally OK with no wireless charging. I used to leave my phone on the charging pad at my desk most of the day, and on my nightstand charging pad overnight. I never had to worry about charging at all and plugged in maybe 20 times max over the last two years with my Note5. I said I'd never buy a phone without wireless charging, but the $350 or so I got for my Note5 exchange for this phone was just too tempting to overlook, particularly if it set up my family for the next two to three years (our current phones didn't have band 71 and Samsung said no more security updates). The only thing I was really worried about was wireless charging and whether or not the battery life and dash charging would be enough for me to overcome range anxiety.
It has.
So I'm thinking of keeping my dash charger at home ,and my 30w aukey charger at work ,I take it this will be ok to use ?
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Nope. Super VOOC (OPPO) is hands down the fastest!
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mate 20 pro, charges 4200 mAh in 1 hour.
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mate 20 pro, charges 4200 mAh in 1 hour.
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Oppo Find X (Lamborghini edition) charges 3300 mAh in 35 min...
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So I'm thinking of keeping my dash charger at home ,and my 30w aukey charger at work ,I take it this will be ok to use ?
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It should be. If you are starting from full in the morning I doubt you will even need the charger are work except for very rare instances. I have gotten 7 hours SOT that was mostly gaming on this thing, moderate use you can easily get 24 hours, light use around 48.