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Depletion time on battery - turbo charged vs normal charger

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My finding so far: my battery will deplete faster if its charged with turbo charger. I have two MXPE's : one for me and one for my wife. I charged hers to 100% using Turbo and mine with normal charger. Same settings for Moto display, same brightness level and pretty much similar usages. In fact, I use my phone more than her because I am somewhat more active on whatsapp. Her phone deleted faster than mine.
Have you guys noticed any difference in this respect? I am thinking I am going to use normal charger for night and use turbo charger only in a pinch.

I've read this assertion elsewhere too - that any quick charged phone depletes battery faster. Actually I charged my battery with my old slow charger last night to see if I'd lose less today. Subjectively (because my usage isn't really consistent), it seems like maybe the phone is discharging more slowly...

Could be a possibility but i have my lg g3 that i used for a year.. Co pairing my faily usage i get about the same hours of ost.
I think hers may be going down faster maybe because of the background apps or the ost shes using? U cant say ur using the same apps unless u tried them both for ur self..

I know this is the case. I have a Tablet and Phone when I charge them with slightly higher power chargers they deplete at a much faster rate. And when I charge with the slower charger they hold a charge much longer.
(Although bare in mind I'm talking about non Quick Charging devices so maybe that plays a huge part lol but I dont use Quick Chargers on them just slightly faster chargers when I have no choice.)
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For those of you that have noticed faster battery loss after using the quick charge have you tried the non quick charger for a night charge than at a random time used the car quick charge charger? Does the time differ at all than?

I think this needs more testing. I need to do the test on my phone alone on 2 consecutive working days.

I don't understand what the logic behind this theory would be. Just because one reviewer mentioned it all of a sudden its a thing? Not trying to argue just don't understand the logic. The battery/phone don't heat while turbo charging so why would battery deplete faster?
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jmtjr278 said:
I don't understand what the logic behind this theory would be. Just because one reviewer mentioned it all of a sudden its a thing? Not trying to argue just don't understand the logic. The battery/phone don't heat while turbo charging so why would battery deplete faster?
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A lot of people report the device gets hot when turbo charging. By the nature of the forcing of charge and the small footprint, how could it not get somewhat hot? I do not use fast charging on my Pure due to this.

devsk said:
This is a poll. Again, its your normal day use.
My finding so far: my battery will deplete faster if its charged with turbo charger. I have two MXPE's : one for me and one for my wife. I charged hers to 100% using Turbo and mine with normal charger. Same settings for Moto display, same brightness level and pretty much similar usages. In fact, I use my phone more than her because I am somewhat more active on whatsapp. Her phone deleted faster than mine.
Have you guys noticed any difference in this respect? I am thinking I am going to use normal charger for night and use turbo charger only in a pinch.
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Charging fast is bad for the battery, so it only makes sense for her not to last as long.

My wife wears down faster when I quick charge her. I only do it when I need her for short bursts.
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As I understand turbo change. The phone only utilizes turbo charge for the 0-85 or so, then the phone uses standard charging to top the battery off. I have also not noticed any heat while charging using the OEM charger provided out of the box. Believe what you will. I just don't care how you charge your battery.
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Why would the phone discharge faster after a quick charge? Isn't one hundred percent one hundred percent? I'm not flaming, I'm actually curious if there's a difference.

Idk who came up with this, your battery does not drain faster when its charged faster, its not logical.. All turbo charge or any type of quick charge does is supplies more a more faster charging rate based on the volts and amps it puts out. This should not effect your batteries life in anyway.

I can understand the thinking behind this but there is absolutely no way you can test this correctly because you aren't doing the EXACT same usage every day. Something will always differ.

Was this ever an issue with previous Moto X's?

After about a week's use I feel like the battery has a break in period. I was getting horrible battery at first. The past few days have been par (4ish hours SOT). I've only used the OEM Turbo chargers once but I have several other Turbo chargers (mainly from Galaxy's, Turbo's, etc). Almost every charger in my house could be considered a "Turbo charger" but I only receive the notification that the device recognizes a turbo charge on the OEM charger.
That said, I have worse battery life if I charge all night. It's as if the battery fully charges, then depletes, but still registers as 100%. So shortly taking it off the charger, the battery will quickly drop to low 90's and soon into the 80's. If I charge to 100% and unplug soon after my battery life is as expected.
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joshw0000 said:
After about a week's use I feel like the battery has a break in period. I was getting horrible battery at first. The past few days have been par (4ish hours SOT). I've only used the OEM Turbo chargers once but I have several other Turbo chargers (mainly from Galaxy's, Turbo's, etc). Almost every charger in my house could be considered a "Turbo charger" but I only receive the notification that the device recognizes a turbo charge on the OEM charger.
That said, I have worse battery life if I charge all night. It's as if the battery fully charges, then depletes, but still registers as 100%. So shortly taking it off the charger, the battery will quickly drop to low 90's and soon into the 80's. If I charge to 100% and unplug soon after my battery life is as expected.
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You are making an interesting point here. Anyone else can confirm?
I'm going to do a test myself. Before that I want to add that I've noticed when charging with turbocharger(I've used only the OEM's) the charged capacity tends to go a little over the 3000mha, it becomes something like ~3300mha and after plugging out it still stays like that until 90% where it stats under 3000mha charged.

I charge every night with slow charge. I am at 95% after 1 hour and 45 minutes unplugged. Checked some news a few texts and 2 phone calls. Seems normal to me.

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Battery drain is pretty evident. I am on MM Indian ROM and below are the findings.
1. Used turbo charger to top it up at 100%. Dis-connected the charger. WIFI is enabled and network is 2G (data off). All background app sync is disabled, and the only major applications running in background are firefox and whatsapp.
With medium brightness and browsing, the battery will drop to 97-98% within 5-8 minutes.
2. 100% turbo-charged at night. WIFI enabled/2G network (Data off). Woke up in the morning after 6 hours and battery is good at 98%
WIFI off and network moved to 4G/data and after browsing for 10 minutes, the battery falls to 85%
3. Instead of turbo charger, used Xaiomi MI pad charger (non-turbo) and my experience with #1 and #2 are pretty much the same.

Is it okay to charge overnight ?

Hello guys sorry if it is an innapropriate question but I want to know if it is okay to charge my s8+ over night.. does it damages the phone battery or not ? Thanks

I wouldnt. Doubt it would but would but i find it pointless. It charges pretty quick and wouldnt want to leave it charging for 5+hrs The battery is superb i would quick charge a few mins before bed. Ive gone to bed with 19% and had 17% when i woke the next morning.

ssgunner20 said:
I wouldnt. Doubt it would but would but i find it pointless. It charges pretty quick and wouldnt want to leave it charging for 5+hrs The battery is superb i would quick charge a few mins before bed. Ive gone to bed with 19% and had 17% when i woke the next morning.
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Yeah I know but i work in the morning at 7 thats why . I use it at night leave it at about 10%

Been doing that with my phones for years, haven't had a problem yet.
technically with Lith Ion the less you let it die all the way the better it is for the battery.

albaniandroid said:
Yeah I know but i work in the morning at 7 thats why . I use it at night leave it at about 10%
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It's not going to outright destroy the battery, but definitely better not to keep it on the charger. I cannot speak to your schedule and work environment. I charge mine mid day at work. If your usage is generally the same on a daily basis, just find a spot where you can squeeze in a charge or two during the day.

Always changed overnight for ever I can Remeber. Never faced any issues.
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i leave the phone on the wireless charger. it better for the battery or is the same?

let me clear it..
1st of all in modern battry charging technology overnight charging doesnt harm battery at all as lith ion batt never get overcharged..bcoz once its 100%(max threshold) charging stop and phone use batt powr
after that once it get around 100% ( lower threshold) it start charging again...
STILL I PERSONAL ADVICE TO CHARGE OVERNIGHT WITH FASTCHARGING MODE OFF(((OFFF)).
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lipon625 said:
i leave the phone on the wireless charger. it better for the battery or is the same?
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As far as I know, technically wireless chargers are worse for the battery than a wired. They produce more heat, which technically will have a larger impact on the battery. That being said, I doubt there is any appreciable difference.

xenx said:
As far as I know, technically wireless chargers are worse for the battery than a wired. They produce more heat, which technically will have a larger impact on the battery. That being said, I doubt there is any appreciable difference.
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Good point. Does ths fan cooler on the wireless one prevent as much heat?

The battery retains 95% battery life after a year of normal charging, I wouldn't worry about depreciation. Relax and enjoy the phone

No, you can charge your android overnight as they are smart enough

Boooom! Lol.....just kidding I hope

Stick with the samsung fast charger. I have a lot of other ones, and only the samsung stay cool (fan) and doesn't cycle like the cheap ones do.

Yes, as most have said, you can charge overnight. I have done this every single night for years, on all my flagship devices. Smartphone batteries have technology in them to stop charging when they hit 200% and only trickle charge them. It won't do any damage or won't cause long term battery life issues.
Just turn off fast charge if you're going to charge overnight.

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Good point. Does ths fan cooler on the wireless one prevent as much heat?
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I have the new Samsung wireless fast charger and I'd say it's just a tad warm kinda like the USB-C charging
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xenx said:
As far as I know, technically wireless chargers are worse for the battery than a wired. They produce more heat, which technically will have a larger impact on the battery. That being said, I doubt there is any appreciable difference.
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I've also heard the opposite, as wireless chargers charge slower they put less pressure on the battery which helps it not degrade as fast. How much difference it would make either way I dont know, possibly hardly any.
I do know keeping it between 40-80 is widely regarded as being a lot better for li-ion battery degradation than going to 100% all the time or running it really low. Accubattery for example will say you used about 0.2 battery cycles going from 35% to 80%, but 0.92 battery cycles going from 55% to maximum. They are probably just using that 40-80 rule to work it out, but assuming it is correct, you can see how much effect it has, being nearly 5x more battery cycles despite both being around a 50% charge up.
So charging it overnight will get it to maximum, which isn't great in terms of battery cycles. I have seen a couple of battery apps that I think can manage charging so that it notifies you at 80% to unplug it, but I don't think they can actually stop the charge at 80% if you leave it plugged in (althought I might be wrong on that). Again how much real difference it will make I don't really know, and it probably depends how long you plan on keeping the phone, 1 year then it shouldn't be too much of an issue, 2 years or more and I would probably at least try to keep it between 40-80% when possible.

Ha,
Been charging all my phones overnight.
Been using wireless charging since the note 3 and always please it on the charger when im next to it and not using my phone.
Never had a battery problem

Thanks everyone for their answers ..*let the overnight charging begin*

I used Ampere to check how much current was going to my phone when it was fully charged and it read 0.0 so I believe the phone cuts off the charging function when fully charged. As even on 100% without the "fully charged" portion on, it will still show trickling voltage.
Hope this helps. I also advise turning fast charging off at night just to be safe.

Should I use a slow charger overnight?

I almost always charge my pphone over night and that means it is charging about 8 hours. This means that I don't really have any use of dash charging during the night. I already have a 1A charger by my beside so it would charge the battery pretty slowly, couple of hours.
What is best to keep the battery in a good condition? Dash charging it for 8 hours every night or just charging it very slowly with a third party charger?

It would be very good for your battery just to charge it till about 90-95% and never let it to completely drain. You can charge your battery till 100% after some time (after two or three weeks). Overcharging it at night doesn't do any good, even with 1A charger. Google it

for the last 5 years i have done the folowing: Charge to 100% over night..
did i see any drastic change in battery? no...
todays phone batteries are wayyyyy better than before.
after 2 years i still had better batterylife than most with my s7-edge
same with my sony z3
so i just stopped caring about how to charge. Use and charge when needed.
On the OP6 however i charge when i come from work to play with my daughter and eat (usually from 60% to 95%) and for the weekends i charge when/if needed..
i feel like people are just overthinking everything theese days. if you need to replace battery in a year it will only cost you 30euro (35 today) with shipping and all.. so.

I do, but it probably doesn't make any difference. The Dash Charger slow charges after 60% anyway to prevent real battery damage over time. Degradation is inevitable, but charging overnight won't likely make it worse or better. I've always done so.

Thank you!
I'm mainly asking because I need a 2m long cable and it will lead to slower charging.

Charging speed

To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the OnePlus 6T can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

dash charge (now called fast charge) is crazy fast!!

Still, I would only recommend using that feature if there is a real benefit - i.e. time is of the essence. The battery will age quicker being dash charged all the time.

saw 60 percent at 35 minutes and 38 seconds, which is more or less in line with what OnePlus claims

Incredibly fast compared to my old Honor 8. One example I have is the first charge I did 5 days ago when I had bought it at a pop-up event here in Sweden. I had used it for about 1-2 hours with the screen on when I was setting it up and trying out the phone. Then when I plugged it in, it went from 36% to 75% in just 24 minutes. That's insanely fast
I've also noticed that just like OnePlus claims, the phone basically charges at the same speed with the screen on as if I would have had the screen off.

Bäcker said:
Still, I would only recommend using that feature if there is a real benefit - i.e. time is of the essence. The battery will age quicker being dash charged all the time.
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Can you provide any factual basis for this statement? Research or articles from established professionals in the field of battery charging?
Everything I've read from reliable sources state that the biggest impact on battery longevity is temperature. Repeated heating (or extreme cooling for that matter) will accelerate the "aging" process, as you put it. OnePlus has actually solved this problem by offloading the energy conversion that causes heat to the power brick, leaving the phone cool during charging (pretty ingenious). I've also read that not always charging the battery fully to 100% can prolong longevity, which is why you get charging strategies on laptops that will stop charging at 80% or 60% if you leave your laptop plugged in 24/7.
Point being, the ONLY way to slowly charge this device would be to use a third party charger and/or cable.
The reason I ask this, is that the manufacturer, OnePlus, clearly states in their documentation that comes with the phone or dash chargers to ONLY use the charger and cable that came with the phone.
Please charge the OnePlus Dash device only with the official Dash Power Adapter and Dash Type-C Cable. Using unauthorized adapter can be dangerous and may void your warranty.
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I'm not completely opposed to the idea that this could just be a marketing ploy to get you to buy their own adapter and accessories, but again just want to know if there's any substantial proof that fast charging, by itself, degrades the battery faster, of if it's just a case of incorrect tribal knowledge.
Thanks.

You are correct that the rate of charge and discharge alone are not the only deciding factors on lipo life and certainly not the most decisive ones.
Excessive heat, especially on high charge levels, is the biggest factor for increased aging.
As you mentioned extreme charging levels (completely empty or full) will also contribute to faster aging, albeit the impact is not that extreme for these low current-draw Lipos used in our phones (as opposed to high-drain Lipos for instance).
Discharge and Charge at high rates will also contribute to the speed of aging, but not as much as heat.
When a lipo spends most of its time one medium charging levels at moderate temperatures and is only charged and discharged with low rates on it will have the longest service life.
This is common for all Lipos, just how much a low or high rate is for that particular battery differs (low drain, high capacity VS high drain, low capacity cell)
With Lipos everything is a compromise. Max and min voltages, max temperatures, max draw are values the manufacturer has chosen as the best compromise to reach the intended MTBF. All these numbers are not physical absolute barriers.

Charges 0-100% in 1hr 30 mins

Second place after SuperCharge (even first gen) from Huawei. Much better than QC 3.0

Klanac89 said:
Second place after SuperCharge (even first gen) from Huawei. Much better than QC 3.0
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Nope. Super VOOC (OPPO) is hands down the fastest!

Gustav Karlsson said:
Nope. Super VOOC (OPPO) is hands down the fastest!
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First of all, how many device support Super VOOC? How many device you can buy outside China with VOOC?
Super VOOC is 50W, the same like Huaweis SuperCharge 2.
Did you test SuperCharge 2 or VOOC?

My OP6T charges up to 100% in 1hr 22mins, so I don't charge overnight anymore. Go to sleep on 40% and charge in the morning

The combo of battery life and crazy fast charging is for the first time breaking me of the "plug it in overnight" habit that I have had since my first cell phone over a decade ago. I can keep my charger at my desk, plug it in for half an hour, and be at 100% with almost no chance of running out before the next morning. That means fewer vampire chargers around the house wasting power, and fewer charge cycles lost leaving the phone plugged in long after it's full. I wish I had swapped to OnePlus sooner - I think I have finally found a phone maker to call my favorite.

The charging Speed with "Dash charge" is amazing.
Within few minutes the battery is from 0% to over 50%!
Generelly I can only say: Amazing battery life. The best I ever had with a phone (except Nokia 3310).

I started to charge when the battery was 5%. It took around 1 hour 20 mins. I can say this to be quite faster when compared to the devices I have used previously, that too when the size of the battery is much bigger than the previous phones.

Illrigger said:
The combo of battery life and crazy fast charging is for the first time breaking me of the "plug it in overnight" habit that I have had since my first cell phone over a decade ago. I can keep my charger at my desk, plug it in for half an hour, and be at 100% with almost no chance of running out before the next morning. That means fewer vampire chargers around the house wasting power, and fewer charge cycles lost leaving the phone plugged in long after it's full. I wish I had swapped to OnePlus sooner - I think I have finally found a phone maker to call my favorite.
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The incredibly fast charging, coupled with the insane battery life (especially in dark mode) has made me totally OK with no wireless charging. I used to leave my phone on the charging pad at my desk most of the day, and on my nightstand charging pad overnight. I never had to worry about charging at all and plugged in maybe 20 times max over the last two years with my Note5. I said I'd never buy a phone without wireless charging, but the $350 or so I got for my Note5 exchange for this phone was just too tempting to overlook, particularly if it set up my family for the next two to three years (our current phones didn't have band 71 and Samsung said no more security updates). The only thing I was really worried about was wireless charging and whether or not the battery life and dash charging would be enough for me to overcome range anxiety.
It has.

So I'm thinking of keeping my dash charger at home ,and my 30w aukey charger at work ,I take it this will be ok to use ?

Gustav Karlsson said:
Nope. Super VOOC (OPPO) is hands down the fastest!
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mate 20 pro, charges 4200 mAh in 1 hour.

Shady282 said:
mate 20 pro, charges 4200 mAh in 1 hour.
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Oppo Find X (Lamborghini edition) charges 3300 mAh in 35 min...

combat goofwing said:
So I'm thinking of keeping my dash charger at home ,and my 30w aukey charger at work ,I take it this will be ok to use ?
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It should be. If you are starting from full in the morning I doubt you will even need the charger are work except for very rare instances. I have gotten 7 hours SOT that was mostly gaming on this thing, moderate use you can easily get 24 hours, light use around 48.

Question Poll: do you use the 85% charge limit?

Do you use the 85% charge limit?

i personally think that 85% is BS i have had god knows how many phone all charged to 100% every single night and ZERO! issue. and limiting this phone specially to 85 is a big cut in the hours you will get.

Not a chance. I'd hate this phone if it only charged to 85%.

I Use it all the time. 85% is enough Juice for one workday and i simple want the battery to last as long as possible. I have had bad experience with batteries dying after ~3 years.
The 85% Rule is no BS. You also have to keep an eye on minimal SOC and never go under 10% to avoid unnecessary battery degradation. With that your battery will perform according to the specs (~700 cycles until 80% SOH, modern smartphone batteries). Otherwise it will suffer and that reduces cycle life. This is simply the state of current lithium battery tech.

From my pov, a full day usage requires 100% of charge because some of them cannot charge the phone while they are outside the whole day.

I have wireless chargers almost everywhere, so when my phone is not being used it's normally sitting on a charger. That means that it very rarely uses much charge, so charging to 85% is fine by me. If I knew that I was going to be away from a charger for a protracted period, then I'd probably charge to 100% beforehand.
I can't get too excited about battery management. If I need to buy a new battery for my phone at some point in the future (it has never happened yet...) then that's what I'll do.

i use 85% because i have quick carger in my car and it charge all the time.
at home I have wireless charger and when i need i put it.

I tried it for a few weeks and instead of having 80% leaving work I was at 50%, not really worth it since I'll probably have a new phone in six months. It was too much of a headache stressing about battery life without the phone fully charging.

No, I charged to 100%.