One more thread about battery life drain... - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

First of all sorry if the same thread is already here... I did alot of searching... I asked alot of ppl in here or in g+ searched google and I still have no answer for my problem...
About my problem now... I'm having this for along time... Not quite sure how long...
I was never the user who posts screenshots saying how my n5 lasts 5h sot... My max was 3h...
So for a very long time I'm struggling with my battery life.. It's great while the phone sleeps but when you open the screen my torture begins...
I have try alot of thinks.... Asop roms.... Caf roms... Stock kernels... Custom kernels... Caf kernels... And still nothing....
I just keep getting a lot of Android system drain... While I'm looking my apps non of them.. Expect our battery beloved Facebook... Drains battery... But while I'm looking the statistics tab on battery widget I found out that system_server and surfaceflinger usage was not extremely big... Considering that their usage is 15-20mins on 10h battery cycle... But still their drain on battery stats was equal to 2hour sot...
I didn't find any solution to that... I disable locations... I use only gps... Or only wifi/data always with location report and location history off...
I remove alot of apps... I even remove google play music cause I saw a wakelock with 0% drain but with 300 starts... Nothing... I hit a dead end... So anyone is willing to help I will be thankful....
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How strong is your signal during your most of your SoT? If you have a weak signal then pretty much forget about those insane SoT times.

1. how is you signal?
2. what do you keep your brightness at?

Try going in wifi > advanced options > disable wifi always on
Disable google's network location too (only use hardware GPS)
I'm on latest nightly of cyanogenmod with elementalX (750 uv, 2572Mhz max)
And I get this battery, SoT and AnTuTu score (Attachments)

His signal was actually pretty good as seen in the graph screenshot.
Voice calls and gaming will drain the battery fairly quickly. Try not to reboot while on battery if possible, and pair down auto syncs and other background drains.
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My signal is always green cause I don't use 4G... I just use it 2-3 days now cause my carrier gave me 1gb free data... So all the time I'm at 2g... My wifi always scanning is off... My location report and history is off... Right now I'm at 3.30h usage with 50mins sot and Android system is 23% usage with 26mins usage....
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Use better battery stats to see your wakelocks and screen shot em here
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pikachukaki said:
My signal is always green cause I don't use 4G... I just use it 2-3 days now cause my carrier gave me 1gb free data... So all the time I'm at 2g... My wifi always scanning is off... My location report and history is off... Right now I'm at 3.30h usage with 50mins sot and Android system is 23% usage with 26mins usage....
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All these screenshots are useless without going into each item and showing us those too. However, the text you wrote above doesn't sound too bad.
As mentioned, look at better battery stats or at least try to provide contextual screen shots
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Today stats.... Sorry if double post a screenshot....
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Wow my screen on time is about 3hrs - 4hrs so I'm happy
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Looks good. 3 hours screen on, 1 hour telephone, 30 minutes Wi-Fi streaming...
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As the post above says, looks good.
You're doing a lot of battery draining things ....calls, games.... Location services is on....3 to 4 hours screen time is about as good as you're gonna see with this sorta usage.
If you want 5 or 6 hours screen time like some....you'd have to make hardly any calls, don't play games, keep your screen dim, turn off location services completely... Etc. Etc. That's how I'm setup, and always get 6 hours plus screen time and 24 hours plus total. But some people don't want to setup like this....so with "everything on", games, calls..... 4 hours screen is about the max....in 16 hours or so total perhaps.
So again.....you have no issue. Its just how you use your phone.
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kj2112 said:
As the post above says, looks good.
You're doing a lot of battery draining things ....calls, games.... Location services is on....3 to 4 hours screen time is about as good as you're gonna see with this sorta usage.
If you want 5 or 6 hours screen time like some....you'd have to make hardly any calls, don't play games, keep your screen dim, turn off location services completely... Etc. Etc. That's how I'm setup, and always get 6 hours plus screen time and 24 hours plus total. But some people don't want to setup like this....so with "everything on", games, calls..... 4 hours screen is about the max....in 16 hours or so total perhaps.
So again.....you have no issue. Its just how you use your phone.
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agree.
i rarely talk on the phone(150 min a month), rarely game, and keep my screen about 20%. i see 5 hours sot every day. unfortunately, talking on the phone and the screen take large amounts of battery.

simms22 said:
agree.
i rarely talk on the phone(150 min a month), rarely game, and keep my screen about 20%. i see 5 hours sot every day. unfortunately, talking on the phone and the screen take large amounts of battery.
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I know eh.....these awesome phones....and having a big bright screen and actually using the phone to communicate are battery killers. Lol
Glad everyone I know is a texter.
Oh...and Voxer.
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So why im having great drain on android system and noone else has it....as for location settings..i have them on battery life with reporting and history off..so they must used only when i need to make a checkin on facebook..or update the weather widget...

kj2112 said:
As the post above says, looks good.
You're doing a lot of battery draining things ....calls, games.... Location services is on....3 to 4 hours screen time is about as good as you're gonna see with this sorta usage.
If you want 5 or 6 hours screen time like some....you'd have to make hardly any calls, don't play games, keep your screen dim, turn off location services completely... Etc. Etc. That's how I'm setup, and always get 6 hours plus screen time and 24 hours plus total. But some people don't want to setup like this....so with "everything on", games, calls..... 4 hours screen is about the max....in 16 hours or so total perhaps.
So again.....you have no issue. Its just how you use your phone.
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pikachukaki said:
So why im having great drain on android system and noone else has it....as for location settings..i have them on battery life with reporting and history off..so they must used only when i need to make a checkin on facebook..or update the weather widget...
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android system isnt high, id say its very normal. itll all depend how exactly you use your phone, for android system battery loss. mines usually between 8-15%, its at 11% right now

simms22 said:
android system isnt high, id say its very normal. itll all depend how exactly you use your phone, for android system battery loss. mines usually between 8-15%, its at 11% right now
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15-20%.... Maybe I'm just insane.... I don't know really....
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pikachukaki said:
15-20%.... Maybe I'm just insane.... I don't know really....
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it really does relate to what your doing with the phone, what apps you use, etc. even 15-20% can be normal. more than 25% could be excessive though.

pikachukaki said:
15-20%.... Maybe I'm just insane.... I don't know really....
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Remember, these stats do not show the percentage of your full battery being used. It's not 20% of 100% of your battery. These stats show a percentage breakdown of your used battery.
So if your battery is at 80% and you used 20% of your battery, these stats add up to 100% of that used 20%
These stats will always add up to 100% it can never be less so sometimes it's not worth worrying so much about how that 100% is distributed. If you didn't use the phone at all, you would likely see only a few items. Possibly only 2. Cell standby and Android OS and they would add up to 100% - cell 20, Android OS 80 for example. These stats are not indicative of drain. It just means you haven't used much of the other functions enough to lower it.
The more you use a single element (eg screen) the more that element will dominate, reducing everything else. If your phone enjoys varied use, everything will even out more
The % of Android os doesn't necessarily mean drain. What you need to look at is whether the phone lasts as long as expected and to me it seems it does
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Battery life is killin' me...

Is it just me, or is the nexus 5's battery way too sub-par? I came from an HTC one, which in terms of battery life, isn't the best, but the nexus 5 makes the One look like the razer ultra, I mean I could get through a full day of moderate/heavy usage (5:30AM to 6:10PM), but with the nexus 5, it goes to around 30% by 4:00, and dies around 5:00. And yes, I put on airplane mode/wifi-off anytime I can. Is there any kernel/mod I can flash to make the battery life a little more bearable, or will I have to return it and get myself the new Droid Maxx? (No rom, as I like to keep it stock)
Turn off the "ok Google" crap and location when you don't need it
Already done those, unfortunately...
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Sesamechicken said:
Already done those, unfortunately...
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Get betterbatterystats and figure out what wake locks are keeping your phone awake
jd1639 said:
Get betterbatterystats and figure out what wake locks are keeping your phone awake
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The odd thing is that "Google keyboard" takes up the battery percentage. Note that this is standby time
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The odd thing is that "Google keyboard" takes up the battery percentage. Note that this is standby time
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Do you have a custom recovery? If so, clear cache in it.
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Do you have a custom recovery? If so, clear cache in it.
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Alright, I'll do that and see how it turns out.
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OK coming from a Galaxy S (1) 4G. I'm not too disappointed with this phone's battery. Yes, it is not the best. But I have noticed that it must be KitKat, not the phone, since the phone's battery should be about 75% of the LG G2's battery, and the G2 has a bit bigger screen and more crap features such as Double Tap 2 Wake and a bunch of other battery hogging features built into the phone. And that thing's battery lasts about twice as long as this phone's battery, which is a bit odd. So i'm definitely saying KitKat is still a bit(very) buggy, and it should be fine in a few months time since the two phones (G2 and N5) should equalize with battery life since there isn't too much battery hogging crap on the N5. I'm using Franco's kernel on stock, and I must say, with pretty decent use, my phone is somewhere between 70 and 85 percent battery in 8 hours. (that is if I may check XDA and facebook a few times), go through a bunch of dead/low signal zones, maybe play 10 minutes of asphalt 8, and maybe use Chrome Beta for a few minutes to browse something. I may also make a few calls/texts in that time. I must say, that I haven't really tested android 4.4.2's life too much compared to 4.4, but I'm getting better life on 4.4.2. On the low end of the spectrum, if I play asphalt 8 for 30-40 minutes. I'll be down to 40-50% by the end of the 8 hour period. I agree that it may look a bit intimidating to see 5% percent battery at the end of 15 hour period, but by then, the day will be pretty much over and you'll have time to charge your phone. If you're a 'round the clock person such as a doctor and need your phone at odd intervals, you can always keep a qi/battery pack charger. Also I find the charge time on this phone quite impressive. I can charge my phone from 30-100 percent in very little time. I'm not exactly sure, but maybe an hour or 2 or less. Also this phone is very graphically extensive and with the extremely dense display, it will probably use more battery than an older phone with less resolution.
Sesamechicken said:
Is it just me, or is the nexus 5's battery way too sub-par? I came from an HTC one, which in terms of battery life, isn't the best, but the nexus 5 makes the One look like the razer ultra, I mean I could get through a full day of moderate/heavy usage (5:30AM to 6:10PM), but with the nexus 5, it goes to around 30% by 4:00, and dies around 5:00. And yes, I put on airplane mode/wifi-off anytime I can. Is there any kernel/mod I can flash to make the battery life a little more bearable, or will I have to return it and get myself the new Droid Maxx? (No rom, as I like to keep it stock)
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How much SOT do you have at 30% battery life? Do you have widgets galore, push e-mail (Gmail, Yahoo etc...), screen brightness set to Auto or full brightness (auto screen brightness is very aggressive on the N5 in terms of keeping it very bright even in should be toned down). You should take a screen shot of your SOT and battery life summary so all of us can see what is eating your battery.
Fluidification said:
OK coming from a Galaxy S (1) 4G. I'm not too disappointed with this phone's battery. Yes, it is not the best. But I have noticed that it must be KitKat, not the phone, since the phone's battery should be about 75% of the LG G2's battery, and the G2 has a bit bigger screen and more crap features such as Double Tap 2 Wake and a bunch of other battery hogging features built into the phone. And that thing's battery lasts about twice as long as this phone's battery, which is a bit odd. So i'm definitely saying KitKat is still a bit(very) buggy, and it should be fine in a few months time since the two phones (G2 and N5) should equalize with battery life since there isn't too much battery hogging crap on the N5. I'm using Franco's kernel on stock, and I must say, with pretty decent use, my phone is somewhere between 70 and 85 percent battery in 8 hours. (that is if I may check XDA and facebook a few times), go through a bunch of dead/low signal zones, maybe play 10 minutes of asphalt 8, and maybe use Chrome Beta for a few minutes to browse something. I may also make a few calls/texts in that time. I must say, that I haven't really tested android 4.4.2's life too much compared to 4.4, but I'm getting better life on 4.4.2. On the low end of the spectrum, if I play asphalt 8 for 30-40 minutes. I'll be down to 40-50% by the end of the 8 hour period. I agree that it may look a bit intimidating to see 5% percent battery at the end of 15 hour period, but by then, the day will be pretty much over and you'll have time to charge your phone. If you're a 'round the clock person such as a doctor and need your phone at odd intervals, you can always keep a qi/battery pack charger. Also I find the charge time on this phone quite impressive. I can charge my phone from 30-100 percent in very little time. I'm not exactly sure, but maybe an hour or 2 or less. Also this phone is very graphically extensive and with the extremely dense display, it will probably use more battery than an older phone with less resolution.
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:/ hopefully it'll get better. Just got 4.4.2 today for the camera. Hopefully KitKat will be all good within December.
fcng said:
How much SOT do you have at 30% battery life? Do you have widgets galore, push e-mail (Gmail, Yahoo etc...), screen brightness set to Auto or full brightness (auto screen brightness is very aggressive on the N5 in terms of keeping it very bright even in should be toned down). You should take a screen shot of your SOT and battery life summary so all of us can see what is eating your battery.
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Alright. I'll use a full days worth tomorrow and show you guys.
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Wow, very strange. I'm getting the BEST battery life out of all my phones from the N5. It will go at least 24 hours with average use and my SOT is about 5 hours. With light use it'll go 36 - 48 hours no problem.
HOWEVER, this was only on Android 4.4. When I upgraded to 4.4.2, the battery life went to ****. And I'm pretty sure I know why: when I run System Tuner Pro and watch the CPU throttling screen, it is showing that the "min" CPU frequency doesn't go below 1036 Mhz, EVEN IF I set the CPU min to 300 Mhz in SetCPU or System Tuner itself - the OS sets it back to 1036 Mhz (and sometimes 1.2Ghz) after a couple seconds. WTF?! It's like the kernel or Android is overriding my CPU clock settings. No wonder the battery life went to hell - a phone isn't supposed to be running at almost 1Ghz when sleeping!
I downgraded back to 4.4 from one of my backups and watched the CPU screen in that version. And sure enough, the CPU is allowed to drop to 300 Mhz like it should.So idk WTF Google did with the 4.4.2 version, but it's definitely a bug. And I think it's in the kernel, or at least somewhere in the original AOSP source, since CyanogenMod 11 (with the 4.4.1 version) has the same issue.
Just factory reset clean phone barely any apps now. Will report my findings tomorrow
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I was having bad battery on a previous rom which i did a dirty flash on, i cleaned wiped and installed a new rom and this are my shots from second day running it.
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I was having bad battery on a previous rom which i did a dirty flash on, i cleaned wiped and installed a new rom and this are my shots from second day running it.
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This phone naturally has bad battery life google has paired up a Beast processor and a GPU and a 1080P Full HD screen all with a LITTLE battery
try underclock the cpu
Anyone ever try Greenify?
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Sesamechicken said:
Is it just me, or is the nexus 5's battery way too sub-par? I came from an HTC one, which in terms of battery life, isn't the best, but the nexus 5 makes the One look like the razer ultra, I mean I could get through a full day of moderate/heavy usage (5:30AM to 6:10PM), but with the nexus 5, it goes to around 30% by 4:00, and dies around 5:00. And yes, I put on airplane mode/wifi-off anytime I can. Is there any kernel/mod I can flash to make the battery life a little more bearable, or will I have to return it and get myself the new Droid Maxx? (No rom, as I like to keep it stock)
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Franco Kernel = Cure
The battery is fine. There is a nasty bug in the OS or modem that causes very bad drain. It's been present since release (4.4). Still working to find the cause and a proper fix.
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Franco Kernel = Cure
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Im on Franco r20 and CM11. battery is at 64% with 58 minute screen on time and 7 hour 23 minutes total. No gaming no nothing because I'm scared the battery will die.
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Im on Franco r20 and CM11. battery is at 64% with 58 minute screen on time and 7 hour 23 minutes total. No gaming no nothing because I'm scared the battery will die.
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Just go Franco alone. Its probably cm11 rom
I've been running franco + purity and battery life is much better compared to stock.
I mean, I'm getting >24 hours of battery life with moderate usage.

[Q] /Summon people that had terrible battery life and fixed it

I would like to know how you did it. Flashing a factory image, using another rom / kernel, tweaking X setting... Maybe this help people, including me, as I am having really bad battery life
Are you connected to WiFi most of the time? I had the really bad battery drain issue while connected to WiFi after the 4.4.2 update. I lost about 30% of charge after 4ish hours while connected. Currently I'm at 92% after 3 hours
What battery drain?
Stock everything and I'm getting great battery. Location on high accuracy and location history off.
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2.5 hrs screen on time.
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Please don't turn this into ANOTHER "hey look at my battery" thread. The point of this is to know how people that had terrible battery life fixed it. If you always had, good for you but you have like over 9000 threads already to post that
Did you see my reply?
Franco kernel
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I would like to know how you did it. Flashing a factory image, using another rom / kernel, tweaking X setting... Maybe this help people, including me, as I am having really bad battery life
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\When you say that you have bad battery life, it would certainly help if you provided more details - screen print of battery usage, which apps are using more battery, screen on time, and betterbatteryplus wakelock details if possible.
The 'solution' will depend on what is draining your battery. It also depends on what your expectations are - you are not going to get 10 hours of screen on time (exaggeration, but I hope you understand what I am getting at) - so, if you can quantitatively express what you are expecting, and what you are getting, folks may be able to help you figure out how to address the issue.
A "bad battery life" statement doesn't really help much
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Please don't turn this into ANOTHER "hey look at my battery" thread. The point of this is to know how people that had terrible battery life fixed it. If you always had, good for you but you have like over 9000 threads already to post that
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@aooga's post kinda outlines (part of) what to provide - graph of battery usage. Also get the screen print before that one that shows the usage by app/process. Include the other details that I mentioned above. The more details you provide, better the odds are that somebody may be able to help.
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Did you see my reply?
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Yep but that was not my problem, it hapenned with wifi and 3G
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\When you say that you have bad battery life, it would certainly help if you provided more details - screen print of battery usage, which apps are using more battery, screen on time, and betterbatteryplus wakelock details if possible.
The 'solution' will depend on what is draining your battery. It also depends on what your expectations are - you are not going to get 10 hours of screen on time (exaggeration, but I hope you understand what I am getting at) - so, if you can quantitatively express what you are expecting, and what you are getting, folks may be able to help you figure out how to address the issue.
A "bad battery life" statement doesn't really help much
@aooga's post kinda outlines (part of) what to provide - graph of battery usage. Also get the screen print before that one that shows the usage by app/process. Include the other details that I mentioned above. The more details you provide, better the odds are that somebody may be able to help.
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You are right. These are the battery stats:
Anyway, I flashed cataclysm + franco at it SEEMS better. Will comment tomorrow.
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Yep but that was not my problem, it hapenned with wifi and 3G
You are right. These are the battery stats:
Anyway, I flashed cataclysm + franco at it SEEMS better. Will comment tomorrow.
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Have you had the same results when you didn't play Asphalt 8? In my experience Asphalt 8 drains the battery immensely. So if you played asphalt 8 for 30 min or so it would drain your battery about 15-20% or so. Even though it says it used only 6% it's a lot more because of the screen and the processing/graphics it has to use for the game.
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Have you had the same results when you didn't play Asphalt 8? In my experience Asphalt 8 drains the battery immensely. So if you played asphalt 8 for 30 min or so it would drain your battery about 15-20% or so. Even though it says it used only 6% it's a lot more because of the screen and the processing/graphics it has to use for the game.
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I only played it for 6 minutes lol..
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You've been playing games and had your screen on for a lot of time...that's gonna drain the battery very quickly on a phone with a large 1080p screen and a quad core processor
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I only played it for 6 minutes lol..
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Hmm that is a bit weird then. On a normal day of use without watching videos or playing games I'm usually at around 90% after 3-4 hours. So I figured if you played Asphalt for like 20 min or so it would explain the battery. Most battery drains are shown as "Android OS" or "Google Play Services" and that doesn't seem to be the case so I'm not sure. Whats your brightness on? Oh I actually didn't notice it showed the stats for Asphalt 8. For some reason (and I can be wrong) but it would show I played for 11 min for example but I would have really played for more. Also, would you mind showing your signal stats? It could also be your bad signal although I think that would be shown as "cell standy"
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Hmm that is a bit weird then. On a normal day of use without watching videos or playing games I'm usually at around 90% after 3-4 hours. So I figured if you played Asphalt for like 20 min or so it would explain the battery. Most battery drains are shown as "Android OS" or "Google Play Services" and that doesn't seem to be the case so I'm not sure. Whats your brightness on?
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Don't worry, as I said cataclysm ROM + franco kernel seems to have fixed it. It was on automatic anyway
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Don't worry, as I said cataclysm ROM + franco kernel seems to have fixed it. It was on automatic anyway
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Well Here are some top tips that i tried and pretty much help a lot
- Since i Live in the UK and we dont have large scale LTE, Make sure the phone isnt searching for it
- Running ART, I know its not much but it helped a bit
-Turn off google Now, I know many people like this but i dont really use it, At the very least turn off hotword detection in the settings
- Dont use Auto Brightness, its easy just find a brightness setting that you feel good with and keep it there
- Use Tasker, I use this for a lot of things but setup a profile in tasker that turns off things like mobile data and wifi in the hours when your going to be sleeping, This will reduce standby time loss, Tested it last night and i went to bed at 50% when i woke up 8+ hours later the phone was at 48%
- Change account syncing settings, This also reduces standby time loss make sure your phone is checking only every half an hour or so for email
From this morning up until like half an hour ago i was on about 48% - 17% with medium use and it lasted about 6-7 hours Ill post pictures when i go through a while day with these settings tomorrow.
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Well Here are some top tips that i tried and pretty much help a lot
- Since i Live in the UK and we dont have large scale LTE, Make sure the phone isnt searching for it
- Running ART, I know its not much but it helped a bit
-Turn off google Now, I know many people like this but i dont really use it, At the very least turn off hotword detection in the settings
- Dont use Auto Brightness, its easy just find a brightness setting that you feel good with and keep it there
- Use Tasker, I use this for a lot of things but setup a profile in tasker that turns off things like mobile data and wifi in the hours when your going to be sleeping, This will reduce standby time loss, Tested it last night and i went to bed at 50% when i woke up 8+ hours later the phone was at 48%
- Change account syncing settings, This also reduces standby time loss make sure your phone is checking only every half an hour or so for email
From this morning up until like half an hour ago i was on about 48% - 17% with medium use and it lasted about 6-7 hours Ill post pictures when i go through a while day with these settings tomorrow.
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Thank you for your advice:laugh:
PsychDrummer said:
Hmm that is a bit weird then. On a normal day of use without watching videos or playing games I'm usually at around 90% after 3-4 hours. So I figured if you played Asphalt for like 20 min or so it would explain the battery. Most battery drains are shown as "Android OS" or "Google Play Services" and that doesn't seem to be the case so I'm not sure. Whats your brightness on? Oh I actually didn't notice it showed the stats for Asphalt 8. For some reason (and I can be wrong) but it would show I played for 11 min for example but I would have really played for more. Also, would you mind showing your signal stats? It could also be your bad signal although I think that would be shown as "cell standy"
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My phone signal is green the 99% of the time as I live in the main city of Tenerife. I disabled 4G as we don't have it here yet.
I really recommend cataclysm + franco to anyone with battery issues. It's definitely fixed for me. Will post battery stats this night or tomorrow

[Q] Battery

Hi All
I'm set with money ready to buy the Nexus 5 ( 32 GB ) or Z1 Compact
And I wonder how well the battery of the N5 performs in real life
Because...when I buy the N5 I don't plan to leave it at 2.26Ghz...in fact I even plan to underclock it to 1.7Ghz ( Because Xperia Z has a 5" and is clocked at an even lower speed and still performs well )
And I'm a light user...who never or rarely uses Wi-FI and am always on 2g ( I never use 4G or 3G ) and always on 5-10% Brightness I also plan to remove all bloatware ( except Google Now ) my phone usually sits on bed and I only get it out to watch some 720p Vids then it rests again
Could I get a day or two out of it and is the "Camera Draining the battery issue" fixed on the 4.4.2 Update?
and finally i just wonder up to now why Z1c gets higher scores than N5 I mean N5 is clocked at higher speeds could this be the effect of Thermal Throttling
Thanks alot :good:
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Well, nexus 5 will give you a day backup easily according to your usage
The camera bug is not yet fixed, but there are rumors for 4.4.3 update which gonna fix it and gonna release soon
You need to fairly choose between fast updates(nexus and gpe series) or more hardware features (all other smartphone)
If you are interested in rooting and customizing stuff, then you will get plenty of those in nexus 5
Even my usage is similar like you, I use 3G, I do get one day battery backup
I hope it helps you
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I'm not 100% sure on the compacts specs but my friend has the Z1. It's exactly the same processor and clock speed. Apart from the camera is awesome and it's waterproof. But u get a crappy sony ui. And Sony updates (which to be fair it has just received 4.4.2) but in my past experience of owning Sony's as soon as their next phone is released they forget about the previous.
The nexus on the other hand is far smoother and faster to use and WILL get all the latest Android releases first and always. And no bloatware. Just fast smooth simple Android
I was deciding between the two before I got my Nexus, and to be fair i don't think I'd have been disappointed in either.
And yes you can easily get 2 days out of the nexus.
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Ahh because I was a bit skeptical since I checked the GSMarena website and battery endurance was at 40H and Z1c is like 65H
How about the overheating issues?
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please read the rules. Bumping within 24 hours is against them
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Thanks one last question...does Google Now Work even if you aren't connected to the internet?
Thanks alot
I don't believe so... I Don't really use it tho
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Thanks one last question...does Google Now Work even if you aren't connected to the internet?
Thanks alot
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Most Google Now functions require internet connectivity. I think reminders work without one.
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From what you describe as your usage I can see it lasting a day no problem, perhaps 36 hours, maybe more if you let the battery go down far. My Nexus 5 typically burns from 100% to 70% over 10 hours from when I leave to when i get back from work, and thats on 4G/3G with decent to fair signal, bluetooth on, wifi on, and brightness all the way up, with texting on and off through the day. With minimum texting once I made it around 85-88%, little over 1% an hour.
That's great to know since I even plan to Underclock the phone and leave the other connection options off at most times
As for Google Now without net would it still work or just show "Cannot Reach Google at the moment"
The nexus 5 battery is the weakest point in this phone
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The nexus 5 battery is the weakest point in this phone
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I know! Battery is brutal.
My last charge only lasted a day and a half with over 6 hours screen time.
Very disappointed.
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I would say most people running on stock everything will NOT get the stats you're getting.
About 3-4 SOT is about average I would think, and that is with brightness at a lower setting. Don't give users a false sense of security, as your stats are far from the norm...
^thank you
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I get around 12 hours with moderate to sometimes heavy usage on PAC ROM
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CoronaDelux said:
I would say most people running on stock everything will NOT get the stats you're getting.
About 3-4 SOT is about average I would think, and that is with brightness at a lower setting. Don't give users a false sense of security, as your stats are far from the norm...
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3-4 SoT hours is already more than most phones could hope for.
6-8 hours SoT is achievable on stock, with lighter usage and mostly WiFi. I wouldn't say it's misleading to expect 6 hours SoT as that seems to be what most users on here are settling down with.
Edit for obligatory proof: Take today for instance, 3 hours SoT with 54% battery remaining. Heavy data usage and loss of signal included. Stock and unrooted.
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CoronaDelux said:
I would say most people running on stock everything will NOT get the stats you're getting.
About 3-4 SOT is about average I would think, and that is with brightness at a lower setting. Don't give users a false sense of security, as your stats are far from the norm...
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It shows what is possible. And the battery life thread can show anyone how to do it. Its not hard. Turn stuff off. Toggle it on when you actually truly need it. It isn't that inconvenient.
Yes, you are right about the average times ...the problem is some, like a person in this thread we all should know, complain and complain and complain about their 3 hours screen time. Meanwhile, everything is on, they're gaming, using auto brightness in the sunshine...etc...etc...
As you said, 3 to 4 SOT is average I'd say. If that disappoints anyone....do something about it....there's a battery thread full of help....or sell the phone and buy one with a huge battery that can handle everything on and give you more hours.
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bblzd said:
3-4 SoT hours is already more than most phones could hope for.
6-8 hours SoT is achievable on stock, with lighter usage and mostly WiFi. I wouldn't say it's misleading to expect 6 hours SoT as that seems to be what most users on here are settling down with.
Edit for obligatory proof: Take today for instance, 3 hours SoT with 54% battery remaining. Heavy data usage and loss of signal included. Stock and unrooted.
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That's true, on wifi, the battery life really shines. Out in the real world, with varying signal strength, I would put the average around 3-4 SOT with everything on however.
kj2112 said:
It shows what is possible. And the battery life thread can show anyone how to do it. Its not hard. Turn stuff off. Toggle it on when you actually truly need it. It isn't that inconvenient.
Yes, you are right about the average times ...the problem is some, like a person in this thread we all should know, complain and complain and complain about their 3 hours screen time. Meanwhile, everything is on, they're gaming, using auto brightness in the sunshine...etc...etc...
As you said, 3 to 4 SOT is average I'd say. If that disappoints anyone....do something about it....there's a battery thread full of help....or sell the phone and buy one with a huge battery that can handle everything on and give you more hours.
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FaIr enough
Yes, there are many tweaks that can be done to improve battery life, but stock for stock, it is only average in my opinion.

Got 9 hours of Screen On Time.

I was using my phone as usual, until I noticed that the battery haven't gone done for long, it lasted longer that usual.
No, power save mode was on.
No, greenify.
No cpu control to drop down the cpu freq.
This was on normal use.
I don't know how my phone did this, but yeah.
I took the first ss at 4%, after this, the phone went on to be on 4% for 15 min when screen was on the whole time until it dropped on 3%.
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Although I was using instagram, whatsapp, snapchat, browser and internet as usual.
And it took 25 mins to completely shut down.
So the phone gave me approx 9 Hours of SOT.
I am not sure how this happened. But it did.
The same phone use to give me 4 hours on Android 5.1.1
Then 6 hours on Android 6.0
But now it gave 9 hours.
That's it I'm RMAing this phone I get like 2 hours sot with amplify, greenify and powernap and even less without that. Now I know this is not normal. I am weary of dealing with Moto customer service but I guess there is no avoiding it jow
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That's it I'm RMAing this phone I get like 2 hours sot with amplify, greenify and powernap and even less without that. Now I know this is not normal. I am weary of dealing with Moto customer service but I guess there is no avoiding it jow
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No buddy dont use so many apps they interfere with Doze and other MM features. I tried using greenify my battery dropped. Then I removed 'greenify' and 'prevent running' from my phone I also used to use setCPU to drop the freq when the screen was off but that to hogging my battery, I guess that happened because it had to change the freq many times.
I removed setCPU too.
This was without any battery saving app.
Try doing that.
Unbelievable!
My X Style has only about 4 hours of SOT.
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My X Style has only about 4 hours of SOT.
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That's fairly average. I usually get between 4-5. You'll never see 9 hours and the probability of anyone else seeing it is about 0. I have no reason to be glued to my phone for 9 hours so I'm very happy with 4-5. Even that's more than I need to be on it.
brholt6 said:
That's fairly average. I usually get between 4-5. You'll never see 9 hours and the probability of anyone else seeing it is about 0. I have no reason to be glued to my phone for 9 hours so I'm very happy with 4-5. Even that's more than I need to be on it.
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Well, I got 9.
I normally get 5-6 hours.
And now I am getting 7-8 hours.
You're right no one is ever glued to the phone for 9 hours straight, this was an on and off use. I didn't use my phone continuously for 9 hours. Just saying.
AmeyRanberg said:
Well, I got 9.
I normally get 5-6 hours.
And now I am getting 7-8 hours.
You're right no one is ever glued to the phone for 9 hours straight, this was an on and off use. I didn't use my phone continuously for 9 hours. Just saying.
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No offense, but I wouldn't call 9 hours of SOT over a period of 12 hours "on and off use". That's great that you got 9, its just unreasonable for everyone to expect that...even 7-8 hours. Yet, after seeing this, many will.
While this is certainly cool, but it's not very useful if it's not reproducible on other phones.
I have one lingering suspicion: your battery protection system may not be working correctly. Usually, a good amount of the phone's battery is set aside to prevent under and over charge. If those limitations were removed, you could get much longer battery life, at the expense of your long term battery health. I'm probably wrong, but just throwing that out there.
On the other hand, depending on how you use the phone, 9 hours may not be exceptional. I can easily get that amount while reading E-books at 20% brightness, for example. (Google Play Books uses almost no CPU). I can get about 7 browsing with Opera Mini (low CPU because page is rendered offsite).
I would have liked to see your detailed battery graph. You can get to it by tapping the battery graph in the normal battery view. The graph will expand and underlay it with line graphs showing what your radio conditions, wifi, etc. are like. So pretty please, if it happens again, please grab a screenshot of that too.
Also, what have you done to you phone? Can you describe your configuration in detail? I can't reproduce it because I'm unrooted, but perhaps someone else can.
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No offense, but I wouldn't call 9 hours of SOT over a period of 12 hours "on and off use". That's great that you got 9, its just unreasonable for everyone to expect that...even 7-8 hours. Yet, after seeing this, many will.
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None taken, seeing that would make you think so, and yeah I agree I was using my phone for a long time in that 12 hours, but the 9 hours SOT is only because I don't switch off my screen often, like If I am not doing anything on the phone and if its lying on the table or somewhere its on most of the times.
Also, I agree its unreasonable, but if I could find out the reason for this I would surely let all of you know and that would be great, atleast that's what I think.
I normally used to get 6-7 hours SOT, but even if it goes up by an hour it would helpful for people.
Peace.
PythonNut said:
While this is certainly cool, but it's not very useful if it's not reproducible on other phones.
I have one lingering suspicion: your battery protection system may not be working correctly. Usually, a good amount of the phone's battery is set aside to prevent under and over charge. If those limitations were removed, you could get much longer battery life, at the expense of your long term battery health. I'm probably wrong, but just throwing that out there.
On the other hand, depending on how you use the phone, 9 hours may not be exceptional. I can easily get that amount while reading E-books at 20% brightness, for example. (Google Play Books uses almost no CPU). I can get about 7 browsing with Opera Mini (low CPU because page is rendered offsite).
I would have liked to see your detailed battery graph. You can get to it by tapping the battery graph in the normal battery view. The graph will expand and underlay it with line graphs showing what your radio conditions, wifi, etc. are like. So pretty please, if it happens again, please grab a screenshot of that too.
Also, what have you done to you phone? Can you describe your configuration in detail? I can't reproduce it because I'm unrooted, but perhaps someone else can.
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I have rooted the phone, I have removed some apps, which I didnt want.
Moto features are off.
But other than that I havent touched the system for battery improvements.
Also I have not removed any limitations as such.
This 9 hours was sudden.
After a long usage I realised the battery didnt go down.
So I took the battery reading and also took screenshots.
And yes, this I took a screenshot of the detailed battery graph too.
After this now I am getting 8 hours SOT.
I'll give it to you...that's impressive...especially with your signal in the red the entire time. A poor cell signal is a huge battery drain.
As you can see not everyone uses their this way. He for most of the time was basically on his phone. Average person won't do that. But good to know what pretty much can be the max on this phone
What was your screen brightness set at approximately?
I think chrome definitely serves as a huge battery hog. Don't see that on your charts, so I think it can contribute some as well.
Wow this is crazy
I only get 4h OS SOT mix 3g and Wi-Fi i don't know why
Ghost9867 said:
Wow this is crazy
I only get 4h OS SOT mix 3g and Wi-Fi i don't know why
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That's 100% normal. His experiences are an outlier.
AmeyRanberg said:
None taken, seeing that would make you think so, and yeah I agree I was using my phone for a long time in that 12 hours, but the 9 hours SOT is only because I don't switch off my screen often, like If I am not doing anything on the phone and if its lying on the table or somewhere its on most of the times.
Also, I agree its unreasonable, but if I could find out the reason for this I would surely let all of you know and that would be great, atleast that's what I think.
I normally used to get 6-7 hours SOT, but even if it goes up by an hour it would helpful for people.
Peace.
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There's no mystery to it you already know the reason you got 9 hours, it's in your first paragraph. When you leave your screen on while your cpu load is basically zero because you're not using your device your battery can last a pretty long time...
People getting 4 hours SOT which is perfectly normal when actually using the device shouldn't be mislead into thinking there's something wrong with their battery life.
AmeyRanberg said:
The 9 hours SOT is only because I don't switch off my screen often, like If I am not doing anything on the phone and if its lying on the table or somewhere its on most of the times.
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Well, that's one usage scenario . Now I know that if I turn off the screen timeout and leave it on a table I can expect 9hrs SOT and 12hrs total runtime. Don't know why I'd ever do that except maybe to start a bragging thread.
I get 4.5-5hrs SOT and 24hrs total runtime in my real life usage on AICP nigthlies. Not great but better than it was on stock LP or MM.
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Octhellio said:
There's no mystery to it you already know the reason you got 9 hours, it's in your first paragraph. When you leave your screen on while your cpu load is basically zero because you're not using your device your battery can last a pretty long time...
People getting 4 hours SOT which is perfectly normal when actually using the device shouldn't be mislead into thinking there's something wrong with their battery life.
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I never said I didnt use my device for long. I said I leave my screen on when I am not using it. But I used the device. Plus my network signal was weak too. That does take a toll on the battery.
Also I didnt mean the reason I get 9 hours SOT is because I leave the screen on, I mean this graph of 9 hours SOT in 12 hours usage was because I left the screen on.
Also I never said anything is wrong with battery of the people who get 4 hours SOT. Everybody including me is saying its perfectly normal.

Light use endurance

Once in a while, when your significant other yells at you, you might use your phone a bit less. Rate this thread to express how the Google Pixel 2 XL's battery performs under light use. A higher rating indicates that the device goes a long time when you're using the phone sparingly: no gaming or video/audio streaming, light web browsing, some calling and texts, etc.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Out and about (LTE/cell service only) - 13%/hour
At home on Wifi - 6-7%/hour
21h with 4h screen on, 40% left
With what I would consider light usage (email, web browsing, messaging, lots of YouTube) I have really been impressed with the battery life! Over 8hrs screen on time with my first few cycles so far. Based on this, I'm guessing that even with heavier usage (games, etc.) that I would still be pretty happy with the longevity. With very similar usage I was getting around 4-5hrs SOT on my original Pixel XL and was happy with it. Interested to hear how the battery has been for others as well.
I've been very happy. Last night I forgot to charge so I woke up with 48% battery. I plugged in for 25 minutes while getting ready for work. Left the house with 87%. Now, 9 hours later, I have had 2 hours screen on time of mixed wifi/LTE, browsing, email, Facebook, texting, a few pictures and a little YouTube. 20% brightness. Location set to high accuracy, Now Playing turned on, AOD off, Google account sync on. I am at 65%. That's a drain of 22%. Under the same conditions and usage my Nexus 5X would have drained over 40%.
This is the first smartphone I've had (I've had a Nexus One, Galaxy SII, Nexus 5, Nexus 5X and now Pixel 2 XL) that I can say that the battery life is GREAT.
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This phone is ridiculous. I haven't charged it since Monday...
I won't pretend I'm a "heavy usage" person with my phone. But I've never been able to get 2 full days of usage from any of my previous phones. Most of them barely lasted 24 hours. This one is going to reach 48+ hours, easy.
I work from home full time so I'm connected to my home wifi almost all the time, which helps. I get out of the house a total of 2-3 hours a day to walk the dog, go to the gym, or meet clients for lunch. So during that time it's on full LTE with no wifi. I tend to use the phone for 2-3 client calls per day (30-60 minutes each while paired with my bluetooth headphones), listening to music at the gym (~60 minutes while paired with my bluetooth headphones), some light usage of social networking apps and Youtube videos throughout the day.
I know battery life consists of a large amount of factors but it's safe to say that with the same usage, this phone outlasts all my previous phones by at least 1.5x. It's fantastic.
Battery life sucks now compared to pre-February security patch.
Light endurance usage: 15% brightness w/auto brightness off just browsing, Facebook and a little texting on wifi. That's no games, Bluetooth off, Location on high accuracy but not doing much (ie no Maps navigation), no video, no music, no camera, no phone calls etc.
Pre February security update:
Screen on: ~10%/hr
Stand by: ~0.3333%/hr
Best battery life: 9 hours SOT over 1 day, 16 hours off the charger
Now (after February and March security updates):
Screen on: ~15%/hr
Stand by: ~0.5%/hr
Best battery life: 6 hours SOT over 1 day off the charger
Stand by battery drain up like 60% and SOT battery drain up like 50%. Very disappointing for a phone that is only 5 months old. If I break it down to a per mAh it's now no better than my Nexus 5X.
After first charge I am getting 2%/h standby drain, hope things will improve
SOT and idle drain still holding strong for my usage patterns. April update + root + Flash kernel. Not a social media user, and don't use many power/ram intensive apps :good:
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SOT and idle drain still holding strong for my usage patterns. April update + root + Flash kernel. Not a social media user, and don't use many power/ram intensive apps :good:
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If you use all black theme you might get 30 min or 1hr sot more ???
Cheers ?
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Prattham said:
If you use all black theme you might get 30 min or 1hr sot more ???
Cheers ?
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Oh but I do, and yes, I could! One of these days I'm gonna try for 14 hours of SOT!....just to watch you squirm! Bwahahahahaha! ??????
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Oh but I do, and yes, I could! One of these days I'm gonna try for 14 hours of SOT!....just to watch you squirm! Bwahahahahaha! ??????
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just went 1 day 20 hours with 4 hours SOT and 20% left.
Data or wifi always on. Bluetooth and gps always on
No one listens to music offline only anymore ?
What is the battery consumption e.g. with PowerAMP (or similar players) and listening to music for several hours like in battery % ?
Thanks
Not me. I stream my music and play over Bluetooth. But for reference, the Nexus 6P was rated at 100 hours. So I doubt the Pixel 2 XL would be any worse.
zacharias.maladroit said:
No one listens to music offline only anymore ?
What is the battery consumption e.g. with PowerAMP (or similar players) and listening to music for several hours like in battery % ?
Thanks
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sruel3216 said:
just went 1 day 20 hours with 4 hours SOT and 20% left.
Data or wifi always on. Bluetooth and gps always on
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Mine is just as bad now too. For the first 3 months the same time would leave me with almost 50% left.
zacharias.maladroit said:
No one listens to music offline only anymore ?
What is the battery consumption e.g. with PowerAMP (or similar players) and listening to music for several hours like in battery % ?
Thanks
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I listen to music offline. For the first several months of having the phone I could play over Bluetooth and I'd use about 7% per hour. Playing over a wired connection used 4% per hour. Now it's like 8% per hour over a wired connection and 12% per hour over Bluetooth. Damn monthly updates.
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Mine is just as bad now too. For the first 3 months the same time would leave me with almost 50% left.
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Bad? LOL. What's bad for you is, I'm pretty sure, good battery life for him. I didn't get the vibe that he was complaining.
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Bad? LOL. What's bad for you is, I'm pretty sure, good battery life for him. I didn't get the vibe that he was complaining.
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Compared to what it was for the 1st 3 months, yeah, that's bad. Maybe he never experienced how good battery life was before several of the updates so he doesn't really have a basis for comparison. Like I said, with the same time off the charger and screen on time I have about the same 20% battery left as well but for the first few months that same off the charger and screen on time left me with about 50% left. Draining almost 30% battery for the same use just a few months later is a big deal. Oh, and that's after trying a factory reset which at first (about a half a day) seemed like it helped but quickly showed that it didn't help at all.
What you were getting for the first three months was remarkable for sure but wasn't what everyone gets. Like a lot of things battery life has a bell curve and you were just on the extreme right of it. Now you're "only" getting what the majority, middle part of the bell is getting and unhappy with it. Still doesn't mean it's bad. Now it's just average.
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Compared to what it was for the 1st 3 months, yeah, that's bad. Maybe he never experienced how good battery life was before several of the updates so he doesn't really have a basis for comparison. Like I said, with the same time off the charger and screen on time I have about the same 20% battery left as well but for the first few months that same off the charger and screen on time left me with about 50% left. Draining almost 30% battery for the same use just a few months later is a big deal. Oh, and that's after trying a factory reset which at first (about a half a day) seemed like it helped but quickly showed that it didn't help at all.
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