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Battery life is killin' me...

Is it just me, or is the nexus 5's battery way too sub-par? I came from an HTC one, which in terms of battery life, isn't the best, but the nexus 5 makes the One look like the razer ultra, I mean I could get through a full day of moderate/heavy usage (5:30AM to 6:10PM), but with the nexus 5, it goes to around 30% by 4:00, and dies around 5:00. And yes, I put on airplane mode/wifi-off anytime I can. Is there any kernel/mod I can flash to make the battery life a little more bearable, or will I have to return it and get myself the new Droid Maxx? (No rom, as I like to keep it stock)

Turn off the "ok Google" crap and location when you don't need it

Already done those, unfortunately...
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Sesamechicken said:
Already done those, unfortunately...
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Get betterbatterystats and figure out what wake locks are keeping your phone awake

jd1639 said:
Get betterbatterystats and figure out what wake locks are keeping your phone awake
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The odd thing is that "Google keyboard" takes up the battery percentage. Note that this is standby time
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Sesamechicken said:
The odd thing is that "Google keyboard" takes up the battery percentage. Note that this is standby time
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Do you have a custom recovery? If so, clear cache in it.

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Do you have a custom recovery? If so, clear cache in it.
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Alright, I'll do that and see how it turns out.
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OK coming from a Galaxy S (1) 4G. I'm not too disappointed with this phone's battery. Yes, it is not the best. But I have noticed that it must be KitKat, not the phone, since the phone's battery should be about 75% of the LG G2's battery, and the G2 has a bit bigger screen and more crap features such as Double Tap 2 Wake and a bunch of other battery hogging features built into the phone. And that thing's battery lasts about twice as long as this phone's battery, which is a bit odd. So i'm definitely saying KitKat is still a bit(very) buggy, and it should be fine in a few months time since the two phones (G2 and N5) should equalize with battery life since there isn't too much battery hogging crap on the N5. I'm using Franco's kernel on stock, and I must say, with pretty decent use, my phone is somewhere between 70 and 85 percent battery in 8 hours. (that is if I may check XDA and facebook a few times), go through a bunch of dead/low signal zones, maybe play 10 minutes of asphalt 8, and maybe use Chrome Beta for a few minutes to browse something. I may also make a few calls/texts in that time. I must say, that I haven't really tested android 4.4.2's life too much compared to 4.4, but I'm getting better life on 4.4.2. On the low end of the spectrum, if I play asphalt 8 for 30-40 minutes. I'll be down to 40-50% by the end of the 8 hour period. I agree that it may look a bit intimidating to see 5% percent battery at the end of 15 hour period, but by then, the day will be pretty much over and you'll have time to charge your phone. If you're a 'round the clock person such as a doctor and need your phone at odd intervals, you can always keep a qi/battery pack charger. Also I find the charge time on this phone quite impressive. I can charge my phone from 30-100 percent in very little time. I'm not exactly sure, but maybe an hour or 2 or less. Also this phone is very graphically extensive and with the extremely dense display, it will probably use more battery than an older phone with less resolution.

Sesamechicken said:
Is it just me, or is the nexus 5's battery way too sub-par? I came from an HTC one, which in terms of battery life, isn't the best, but the nexus 5 makes the One look like the razer ultra, I mean I could get through a full day of moderate/heavy usage (5:30AM to 6:10PM), but with the nexus 5, it goes to around 30% by 4:00, and dies around 5:00. And yes, I put on airplane mode/wifi-off anytime I can. Is there any kernel/mod I can flash to make the battery life a little more bearable, or will I have to return it and get myself the new Droid Maxx? (No rom, as I like to keep it stock)
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How much SOT do you have at 30% battery life? Do you have widgets galore, push e-mail (Gmail, Yahoo etc...), screen brightness set to Auto or full brightness (auto screen brightness is very aggressive on the N5 in terms of keeping it very bright even in should be toned down). You should take a screen shot of your SOT and battery life summary so all of us can see what is eating your battery.

Fluidification said:
OK coming from a Galaxy S (1) 4G. I'm not too disappointed with this phone's battery. Yes, it is not the best. But I have noticed that it must be KitKat, not the phone, since the phone's battery should be about 75% of the LG G2's battery, and the G2 has a bit bigger screen and more crap features such as Double Tap 2 Wake and a bunch of other battery hogging features built into the phone. And that thing's battery lasts about twice as long as this phone's battery, which is a bit odd. So i'm definitely saying KitKat is still a bit(very) buggy, and it should be fine in a few months time since the two phones (G2 and N5) should equalize with battery life since there isn't too much battery hogging crap on the N5. I'm using Franco's kernel on stock, and I must say, with pretty decent use, my phone is somewhere between 70 and 85 percent battery in 8 hours. (that is if I may check XDA and facebook a few times), go through a bunch of dead/low signal zones, maybe play 10 minutes of asphalt 8, and maybe use Chrome Beta for a few minutes to browse something. I may also make a few calls/texts in that time. I must say, that I haven't really tested android 4.4.2's life too much compared to 4.4, but I'm getting better life on 4.4.2. On the low end of the spectrum, if I play asphalt 8 for 30-40 minutes. I'll be down to 40-50% by the end of the 8 hour period. I agree that it may look a bit intimidating to see 5% percent battery at the end of 15 hour period, but by then, the day will be pretty much over and you'll have time to charge your phone. If you're a 'round the clock person such as a doctor and need your phone at odd intervals, you can always keep a qi/battery pack charger. Also I find the charge time on this phone quite impressive. I can charge my phone from 30-100 percent in very little time. I'm not exactly sure, but maybe an hour or 2 or less. Also this phone is very graphically extensive and with the extremely dense display, it will probably use more battery than an older phone with less resolution.
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:/ hopefully it'll get better. Just got 4.4.2 today for the camera. Hopefully KitKat will be all good within December.
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How much SOT do you have at 30% battery life? Do you have widgets galore, push e-mail (Gmail, Yahoo etc...), screen brightness set to Auto or full brightness (auto screen brightness is very aggressive on the N5 in terms of keeping it very bright even in should be toned down). You should take a screen shot of your SOT and battery life summary so all of us can see what is eating your battery.
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Alright. I'll use a full days worth tomorrow and show you guys.
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Wow, very strange. I'm getting the BEST battery life out of all my phones from the N5. It will go at least 24 hours with average use and my SOT is about 5 hours. With light use it'll go 36 - 48 hours no problem.
HOWEVER, this was only on Android 4.4. When I upgraded to 4.4.2, the battery life went to ****. And I'm pretty sure I know why: when I run System Tuner Pro and watch the CPU throttling screen, it is showing that the "min" CPU frequency doesn't go below 1036 Mhz, EVEN IF I set the CPU min to 300 Mhz in SetCPU or System Tuner itself - the OS sets it back to 1036 Mhz (and sometimes 1.2Ghz) after a couple seconds. WTF?! It's like the kernel or Android is overriding my CPU clock settings. No wonder the battery life went to hell - a phone isn't supposed to be running at almost 1Ghz when sleeping!
I downgraded back to 4.4 from one of my backups and watched the CPU screen in that version. And sure enough, the CPU is allowed to drop to 300 Mhz like it should.So idk WTF Google did with the 4.4.2 version, but it's definitely a bug. And I think it's in the kernel, or at least somewhere in the original AOSP source, since CyanogenMod 11 (with the 4.4.1 version) has the same issue.

Just factory reset clean phone barely any apps now. Will report my findings tomorrow
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I was having bad battery on a previous rom which i did a dirty flash on, i cleaned wiped and installed a new rom and this are my shots from second day running it.
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I was having bad battery on a previous rom which i did a dirty flash on, i cleaned wiped and installed a new rom and this are my shots from second day running it.
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This phone naturally has bad battery life google has paired up a Beast processor and a GPU and a 1080P Full HD screen all with a LITTLE battery
try underclock the cpu

Anyone ever try Greenify?
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Sesamechicken said:
Is it just me, or is the nexus 5's battery way too sub-par? I came from an HTC one, which in terms of battery life, isn't the best, but the nexus 5 makes the One look like the razer ultra, I mean I could get through a full day of moderate/heavy usage (5:30AM to 6:10PM), but with the nexus 5, it goes to around 30% by 4:00, and dies around 5:00. And yes, I put on airplane mode/wifi-off anytime I can. Is there any kernel/mod I can flash to make the battery life a little more bearable, or will I have to return it and get myself the new Droid Maxx? (No rom, as I like to keep it stock)
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Franco Kernel = Cure

The battery is fine. There is a nasty bug in the OS or modem that causes very bad drain. It's been present since release (4.4). Still working to find the cause and a proper fix.

GabrielOspina said:
Franco Kernel = Cure
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Im on Franco r20 and CM11. battery is at 64% with 58 minute screen on time and 7 hour 23 minutes total. No gaming no nothing because I'm scared the battery will die.

whisky_ said:
Im on Franco r20 and CM11. battery is at 64% with 58 minute screen on time and 7 hour 23 minutes total. No gaming no nothing because I'm scared the battery will die.
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Just go Franco alone. Its probably cm11 rom

I've been running franco + purity and battery life is much better compared to stock.
I mean, I'm getting >24 hours of battery life with moderate usage.

Battery life getting worse, common problem?

Yesterday a post was made to /r/nexus5 on reddit about how battery life was getting worse as time went on. Over 100 people replied saying that their phone was getting worse battery life as well. Here's the link: http://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus5/comments/1yxj2g/battery_life_went_from_insane_to_terrible/ The most people were able to find out was that there was a problem with the Android OS process. Are you guys having similar issues? And do you have any fixes?

Batteries do lose their max charge over time. We're now 6 months aged for the first purchased devices, so it could simply be those batteries are starting to age. They still have years to go, but a brand new battery will always be impressive.
It's one reason why I silently laugh at people bragging about great battery life for a brand new device. of course it will get good life, it's a new battery running optimized software that isn't pushing the hardware as hard as the software 2 years into a device life cycle.

posted by people that know nothing..
as time goes on, you install more and more apps. many apps arent coded very well, and have other issues. anyways, people get more and more of these crappy apps that will drain more and more battery without you even using them. anywho, not a problem here. i get pretty much the exact same battery life now as i did months ago.
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Hooya said:
Batteries do lose their max charge over time. We're now 6 months aged for the first purchased devices, so it could simply be those batteries are starting to age. They still have years to go, but a brand new battery will always be impressive.
It's one reason why I silently laugh at people bragging about great battery life for a brand new device. of course it will get good life, it's a new battery running optimized software that isn't pushing the hardware as hard as the software 2 years into a device life cycle.
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great battery life for an "old" device, 5-6 hours screen on time every single day. the batteries life doesnt reduce that quick, and generally youll change phones(within 2 years) before you see the life of your battery shorten.

Hooya said:
Batteries do lose their max charge over time. We're now 6 months aged for the first purchased devices, so it could simply be those batteries are starting to age. They still have years to go, but a brand new battery will always be impressive.
It's one reason why I silently laugh at people bragging about great battery life for a brand new device. of course it will get good life, it's a new battery running optimized software that isn't pushing the hardware as hard as the software 2 years into a device life cycle.
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6 months isn't going to be noticeably less max charge unless the battery was severely abused. Also the phone has been out for 4 months and most are younger.
Here's something to think about: Usage patterns change. People install new apps.
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Indeed usage patterns play a massive part. And some of which can be completely out of your control.
At home on WiFi I'll get 6-7 hours of screen time.
At home on hspa I'll get 5-6
At work on hspa I'll get 3-4
So at worst case scenario I can lose half of my normal battery usage just based on the carrier performance.
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I get about 3-4 hours SoT daily... If anything, that has gone up since I got my device (one of the first batches shipped in US).
I wish I could get 5-7 SoT, with numbers like that, I'm beginning to think I'm doing something very very wrong
Point is... I have one of the first phones shipped out, and my battery life has stayed exactly the same.

High battery usage by Android OS is probably good indication that there are some wakelocks. It has nothing to do with battery being "older".
My battery is great from day one.
Captain obvious mode now:
Posting SoT is pointless and proves nothing. It really depends on what you are doing when screen is on. It is really obvious that it is not the same if you read some book with 5% brightness or play a game.
My SoTs go from 2h up to 7h, depending on usage...
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wake lock is main reason makes battery drains so much. try to use greenify to hibernate apps.
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Tenhi said:
Captain obvious mode now:
Posting SoT is pointless and proves nothing. It really depends on what you are doing when screen is on. It is really obvious that it is not the same if you read some book with 5% brightness or play a game.
My SoTs go from 2h up to 7h, depending on usage...
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LOL. Yep. Give me a day and I'll show you screenies of ten hours of SOT. It'll be BS because to get those results I have to set my phones brightness to less than stock. I also have to set screen timeout to 30 minutes. As well I need to remember to turn the damn screen back on after 30 minutes. I also have to make sure my phone is in my sock drawer doing nothing when the screen is on. It'll still show 10 hours SOT though.

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LOL. Yep. Give me a day and I'll show you screenies of ten hours of SOT. It'll be BS because to get those results I have to set my phones brightness to less than stock. I also have to set screen timeout to 30 minutes. As well I need to remember to turn the damn screen back on after 30 minutes. I also have to make sure my phone is in my sock drawer doing nothing when the screen is on. It'll still show 10 hours SOT though.
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Only 10? Think you could do much higher in those conditions.
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mateopase said:
Yesterday a post was made to /r/nexus5 on reddit about how battery life was getting worse as time went on. Over 100 people replied saying that their phone was getting worse battery life as well. Here's the link: http://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus5/comments/1yxj2g/battery_life_went_from_insane_to_terrible/ The most people were able to find out was that there was a problem with the Android OS process. Are you guys having similar issues? And do you have any fixes?
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Yeah, the common problem.... My battery just is used for 5 hours.
But there are some fixs to follow:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168036

I posted my usual screen times on a typical day for me.
Typically I do the same things which are a lot of xda and viewing the verge and YouTube. A few calls and texts.
And from my experience the difference between being at home with WiFi off and being at work with WiFi off is that my battery usually lasts nearly twice as long at home.
I was trying to get across the message that your carriers signal strength plays a massive role on how long your battery lasts.
So say if a mast went down and you get bumped onto one a bit further away (they don't rush when fixing these things unless it's a critical one). You would have done nothing and all of a sudden your battery life has started taking a massive hit.
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I'm also having this problem with the android os draining my batter And this started happening within the last week or so.I used to be able to easily get about 30 hours out of my phone, now I'm only able to get about half that. As you can see in the 4th pic, android os has been the cause of a 3h45m partial wakelock, which doesnt seem right to me and is probably the cause of most of the battery drain. the last 2 pics are something that also seems weird to me, as google accounts manager shouldnt take 4% in about an hour. I dont even know why its running that long. Though i know how to quick fix the account manager drain (simply disable it) the android os isnt that simple as i dont know how to see exactly what apps or processes are making it cause a partial wakelock.
Im on omnirom using chaos kernel 9.2
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I had a similar issue a while back, and in the end it was Google location reporting within Google now service. Try to switch location reporting off but leave location history on and see if it helps. Also choose Location mode to battery saving.
Turning off location reporting does not affect Google Now functionality...
It can be something else in your case, but this problem was common...
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One thing I've noticed as a weirdness is the cache of a phone can get stale and so it gets into some weird loop that drains battery or something and clearing the cache improves battery life. Also sometimes apps can develop bugs or new wakelocks when you do an update so sometimes you have to stay on top of it to track it.

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One thing I've noticed as a weirdness is the cache of a phone can get stale and so it gets into some weird loop that drains battery or something and clearing the cache improves battery life. Also sometimes apps can develop bugs or new wakelocks when you do an update so sometimes you have to stay on top of it to track it.
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Thanks for the cache thing I have never thought about that before :good:
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If I did not use some preventative measures to prolong battery life I would maybe get 14-16 hours in a day of usage, I always left wifi on, bluetooth even when not connected, data, force LTE, etc. I did not care because I charge my phone every night. I just find it silly if I get a day usage out of my phone and it is at 50% well assuming you use the phone the exact same as the last day you will use another 50% and it will be dead by the time you get to your charger.

One more thread about battery life drain...

First of all sorry if the same thread is already here... I did alot of searching... I asked alot of ppl in here or in g+ searched google and I still have no answer for my problem...
About my problem now... I'm having this for along time... Not quite sure how long...
I was never the user who posts screenshots saying how my n5 lasts 5h sot... My max was 3h...
So for a very long time I'm struggling with my battery life.. It's great while the phone sleeps but when you open the screen my torture begins...
I have try alot of thinks.... Asop roms.... Caf roms... Stock kernels... Custom kernels... Caf kernels... And still nothing....
I just keep getting a lot of Android system drain... While I'm looking my apps non of them.. Expect our battery beloved Facebook... Drains battery... But while I'm looking the statistics tab on battery widget I found out that system_server and surfaceflinger usage was not extremely big... Considering that their usage is 15-20mins on 10h battery cycle... But still their drain on battery stats was equal to 2hour sot...
I didn't find any solution to that... I disable locations... I use only gps... Or only wifi/data always with location report and location history off...
I remove alot of apps... I even remove google play music cause I saw a wakelock with 0% drain but with 300 starts... Nothing... I hit a dead end... So anyone is willing to help I will be thankful....
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How strong is your signal during your most of your SoT? If you have a weak signal then pretty much forget about those insane SoT times.

1. how is you signal?
2. what do you keep your brightness at?

Try going in wifi > advanced options > disable wifi always on
Disable google's network location too (only use hardware GPS)
I'm on latest nightly of cyanogenmod with elementalX (750 uv, 2572Mhz max)
And I get this battery, SoT and AnTuTu score (Attachments)

His signal was actually pretty good as seen in the graph screenshot.
Voice calls and gaming will drain the battery fairly quickly. Try not to reboot while on battery if possible, and pair down auto syncs and other background drains.
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My signal is always green cause I don't use 4G... I just use it 2-3 days now cause my carrier gave me 1gb free data... So all the time I'm at 2g... My wifi always scanning is off... My location report and history is off... Right now I'm at 3.30h usage with 50mins sot and Android system is 23% usage with 26mins usage....
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Use better battery stats to see your wakelocks and screen shot em here
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My signal is always green cause I don't use 4G... I just use it 2-3 days now cause my carrier gave me 1gb free data... So all the time I'm at 2g... My wifi always scanning is off... My location report and history is off... Right now I'm at 3.30h usage with 50mins sot and Android system is 23% usage with 26mins usage....
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All these screenshots are useless without going into each item and showing us those too. However, the text you wrote above doesn't sound too bad.
As mentioned, look at better battery stats or at least try to provide contextual screen shots
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Today stats.... Sorry if double post a screenshot....
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Wow my screen on time is about 3hrs - 4hrs so I'm happy
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Looks good. 3 hours screen on, 1 hour telephone, 30 minutes Wi-Fi streaming...
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As the post above says, looks good.
You're doing a lot of battery draining things ....calls, games.... Location services is on....3 to 4 hours screen time is about as good as you're gonna see with this sorta usage.
If you want 5 or 6 hours screen time like some....you'd have to make hardly any calls, don't play games, keep your screen dim, turn off location services completely... Etc. Etc. That's how I'm setup, and always get 6 hours plus screen time and 24 hours plus total. But some people don't want to setup like this....so with "everything on", games, calls..... 4 hours screen is about the max....in 16 hours or so total perhaps.
So again.....you have no issue. Its just how you use your phone.
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kj2112 said:
As the post above says, looks good.
You're doing a lot of battery draining things ....calls, games.... Location services is on....3 to 4 hours screen time is about as good as you're gonna see with this sorta usage.
If you want 5 or 6 hours screen time like some....you'd have to make hardly any calls, don't play games, keep your screen dim, turn off location services completely... Etc. Etc. That's how I'm setup, and always get 6 hours plus screen time and 24 hours plus total. But some people don't want to setup like this....so with "everything on", games, calls..... 4 hours screen is about the max....in 16 hours or so total perhaps.
So again.....you have no issue. Its just how you use your phone.
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agree.
i rarely talk on the phone(150 min a month), rarely game, and keep my screen about 20%. i see 5 hours sot every day. unfortunately, talking on the phone and the screen take large amounts of battery.

simms22 said:
agree.
i rarely talk on the phone(150 min a month), rarely game, and keep my screen about 20%. i see 5 hours sot every day. unfortunately, talking on the phone and the screen take large amounts of battery.
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I know eh.....these awesome phones....and having a big bright screen and actually using the phone to communicate are battery killers. Lol
Glad everyone I know is a texter.
Oh...and Voxer.
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So why im having great drain on android system and noone else has it....as for location settings..i have them on battery life with reporting and history off..so they must used only when i need to make a checkin on facebook..or update the weather widget...

kj2112 said:
As the post above says, looks good.
You're doing a lot of battery draining things ....calls, games.... Location services is on....3 to 4 hours screen time is about as good as you're gonna see with this sorta usage.
If you want 5 or 6 hours screen time like some....you'd have to make hardly any calls, don't play games, keep your screen dim, turn off location services completely... Etc. Etc. That's how I'm setup, and always get 6 hours plus screen time and 24 hours plus total. But some people don't want to setup like this....so with "everything on", games, calls..... 4 hours screen is about the max....in 16 hours or so total perhaps.
So again.....you have no issue. Its just how you use your phone.
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+1

pikachukaki said:
So why im having great drain on android system and noone else has it....as for location settings..i have them on battery life with reporting and history off..so they must used only when i need to make a checkin on facebook..or update the weather widget...
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android system isnt high, id say its very normal. itll all depend how exactly you use your phone, for android system battery loss. mines usually between 8-15%, its at 11% right now

simms22 said:
android system isnt high, id say its very normal. itll all depend how exactly you use your phone, for android system battery loss. mines usually between 8-15%, its at 11% right now
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15-20%.... Maybe I'm just insane.... I don't know really....
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pikachukaki said:
15-20%.... Maybe I'm just insane.... I don't know really....
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it really does relate to what your doing with the phone, what apps you use, etc. even 15-20% can be normal. more than 25% could be excessive though.

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15-20%.... Maybe I'm just insane.... I don't know really....
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Remember, these stats do not show the percentage of your full battery being used. It's not 20% of 100% of your battery. These stats show a percentage breakdown of your used battery.
So if your battery is at 80% and you used 20% of your battery, these stats add up to 100% of that used 20%
These stats will always add up to 100% it can never be less so sometimes it's not worth worrying so much about how that 100% is distributed. If you didn't use the phone at all, you would likely see only a few items. Possibly only 2. Cell standby and Android OS and they would add up to 100% - cell 20, Android OS 80 for example. These stats are not indicative of drain. It just means you haven't used much of the other functions enough to lower it.
The more you use a single element (eg screen) the more that element will dominate, reducing everything else. If your phone enjoys varied use, everything will even out more
The % of Android os doesn't necessarily mean drain. What you need to look at is whether the phone lasts as long as expected and to me it seems it does
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Got 9 hours of Screen On Time.

I was using my phone as usual, until I noticed that the battery haven't gone done for long, it lasted longer that usual.
No, power save mode was on.
No, greenify.
No cpu control to drop down the cpu freq.
This was on normal use.
I don't know how my phone did this, but yeah.
I took the first ss at 4%, after this, the phone went on to be on 4% for 15 min when screen was on the whole time until it dropped on 3%.
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Although I was using instagram, whatsapp, snapchat, browser and internet as usual.
And it took 25 mins to completely shut down.
So the phone gave me approx 9 Hours of SOT.
I am not sure how this happened. But it did.
The same phone use to give me 4 hours on Android 5.1.1
Then 6 hours on Android 6.0
But now it gave 9 hours.

That's it I'm RMAing this phone I get like 2 hours sot with amplify, greenify and powernap and even less without that. Now I know this is not normal. I am weary of dealing with Moto customer service but I guess there is no avoiding it jow

timde9 said:
That's it I'm RMAing this phone I get like 2 hours sot with amplify, greenify and powernap and even less without that. Now I know this is not normal. I am weary of dealing with Moto customer service but I guess there is no avoiding it jow
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No buddy dont use so many apps they interfere with Doze and other MM features. I tried using greenify my battery dropped. Then I removed 'greenify' and 'prevent running' from my phone I also used to use setCPU to drop the freq when the screen was off but that to hogging my battery, I guess that happened because it had to change the freq many times.
I removed setCPU too.
This was without any battery saving app.
Try doing that.

Unbelievable!
My X Style has only about 4 hours of SOT.

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My X Style has only about 4 hours of SOT.
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That's fairly average. I usually get between 4-5. You'll never see 9 hours and the probability of anyone else seeing it is about 0. I have no reason to be glued to my phone for 9 hours so I'm very happy with 4-5. Even that's more than I need to be on it.

brholt6 said:
That's fairly average. I usually get between 4-5. You'll never see 9 hours and the probability of anyone else seeing it is about 0. I have no reason to be glued to my phone for 9 hours so I'm very happy with 4-5. Even that's more than I need to be on it.
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Well, I got 9.
I normally get 5-6 hours.
And now I am getting 7-8 hours.
You're right no one is ever glued to the phone for 9 hours straight, this was an on and off use. I didn't use my phone continuously for 9 hours. Just saying.

AmeyRanberg said:
Well, I got 9.
I normally get 5-6 hours.
And now I am getting 7-8 hours.
You're right no one is ever glued to the phone for 9 hours straight, this was an on and off use. I didn't use my phone continuously for 9 hours. Just saying.
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No offense, but I wouldn't call 9 hours of SOT over a period of 12 hours "on and off use". That's great that you got 9, its just unreasonable for everyone to expect that...even 7-8 hours. Yet, after seeing this, many will.

While this is certainly cool, but it's not very useful if it's not reproducible on other phones.
I have one lingering suspicion: your battery protection system may not be working correctly. Usually, a good amount of the phone's battery is set aside to prevent under and over charge. If those limitations were removed, you could get much longer battery life, at the expense of your long term battery health. I'm probably wrong, but just throwing that out there.
On the other hand, depending on how you use the phone, 9 hours may not be exceptional. I can easily get that amount while reading E-books at 20% brightness, for example. (Google Play Books uses almost no CPU). I can get about 7 browsing with Opera Mini (low CPU because page is rendered offsite).
I would have liked to see your detailed battery graph. You can get to it by tapping the battery graph in the normal battery view. The graph will expand and underlay it with line graphs showing what your radio conditions, wifi, etc. are like. So pretty please, if it happens again, please grab a screenshot of that too.
Also, what have you done to you phone? Can you describe your configuration in detail? I can't reproduce it because I'm unrooted, but perhaps someone else can.

brholt6 said:
No offense, but I wouldn't call 9 hours of SOT over a period of 12 hours "on and off use". That's great that you got 9, its just unreasonable for everyone to expect that...even 7-8 hours. Yet, after seeing this, many will.
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None taken, seeing that would make you think so, and yeah I agree I was using my phone for a long time in that 12 hours, but the 9 hours SOT is only because I don't switch off my screen often, like If I am not doing anything on the phone and if its lying on the table or somewhere its on most of the times.
Also, I agree its unreasonable, but if I could find out the reason for this I would surely let all of you know and that would be great, atleast that's what I think.
I normally used to get 6-7 hours SOT, but even if it goes up by an hour it would helpful for people.
Peace.

PythonNut said:
While this is certainly cool, but it's not very useful if it's not reproducible on other phones.
I have one lingering suspicion: your battery protection system may not be working correctly. Usually, a good amount of the phone's battery is set aside to prevent under and over charge. If those limitations were removed, you could get much longer battery life, at the expense of your long term battery health. I'm probably wrong, but just throwing that out there.
On the other hand, depending on how you use the phone, 9 hours may not be exceptional. I can easily get that amount while reading E-books at 20% brightness, for example. (Google Play Books uses almost no CPU). I can get about 7 browsing with Opera Mini (low CPU because page is rendered offsite).
I would have liked to see your detailed battery graph. You can get to it by tapping the battery graph in the normal battery view. The graph will expand and underlay it with line graphs showing what your radio conditions, wifi, etc. are like. So pretty please, if it happens again, please grab a screenshot of that too.
Also, what have you done to you phone? Can you describe your configuration in detail? I can't reproduce it because I'm unrooted, but perhaps someone else can.
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I have rooted the phone, I have removed some apps, which I didnt want.
Moto features are off.
But other than that I havent touched the system for battery improvements.
Also I have not removed any limitations as such.
This 9 hours was sudden.
After a long usage I realised the battery didnt go down.
So I took the battery reading and also took screenshots.
And yes, this I took a screenshot of the detailed battery graph too.
After this now I am getting 8 hours SOT.

I'll give it to you...that's impressive...especially with your signal in the red the entire time. A poor cell signal is a huge battery drain.

As you can see not everyone uses their this way. He for most of the time was basically on his phone. Average person won't do that. But good to know what pretty much can be the max on this phone

What was your screen brightness set at approximately?

I think chrome definitely serves as a huge battery hog. Don't see that on your charts, so I think it can contribute some as well.

Wow this is crazy
I only get 4h OS SOT mix 3g and Wi-Fi i don't know why

Ghost9867 said:
Wow this is crazy
I only get 4h OS SOT mix 3g and Wi-Fi i don't know why
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That's 100% normal. His experiences are an outlier.

AmeyRanberg said:
None taken, seeing that would make you think so, and yeah I agree I was using my phone for a long time in that 12 hours, but the 9 hours SOT is only because I don't switch off my screen often, like If I am not doing anything on the phone and if its lying on the table or somewhere its on most of the times.
Also, I agree its unreasonable, but if I could find out the reason for this I would surely let all of you know and that would be great, atleast that's what I think.
I normally used to get 6-7 hours SOT, but even if it goes up by an hour it would helpful for people.
Peace.
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There's no mystery to it you already know the reason you got 9 hours, it's in your first paragraph. When you leave your screen on while your cpu load is basically zero because you're not using your device your battery can last a pretty long time...
People getting 4 hours SOT which is perfectly normal when actually using the device shouldn't be mislead into thinking there's something wrong with their battery life.

AmeyRanberg said:
The 9 hours SOT is only because I don't switch off my screen often, like If I am not doing anything on the phone and if its lying on the table or somewhere its on most of the times.
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Well, that's one usage scenario . Now I know that if I turn off the screen timeout and leave it on a table I can expect 9hrs SOT and 12hrs total runtime. Don't know why I'd ever do that except maybe to start a bragging thread.
I get 4.5-5hrs SOT and 24hrs total runtime in my real life usage on AICP nigthlies. Not great but better than it was on stock LP or MM.

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Octhellio said:
There's no mystery to it you already know the reason you got 9 hours, it's in your first paragraph. When you leave your screen on while your cpu load is basically zero because you're not using your device your battery can last a pretty long time...
People getting 4 hours SOT which is perfectly normal when actually using the device shouldn't be mislead into thinking there's something wrong with their battery life.
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I never said I didnt use my device for long. I said I leave my screen on when I am not using it. But I used the device. Plus my network signal was weak too. That does take a toll on the battery.
Also I didnt mean the reason I get 9 hours SOT is because I leave the screen on, I mean this graph of 9 hours SOT in 12 hours usage was because I left the screen on.
Also I never said anything is wrong with battery of the people who get 4 hours SOT. Everybody including me is saying its perfectly normal.

Question Battery life since the last update

All was so good,
I was able to hold 2 days with my use (it was incredible, with my s10 I held 24h).
And, then, last update...
And now, in one night of sleep 25-30% of drain ??? Oo
What is that Samsung ? Are you aware like u destroy ur product with this... especially when you advertise about the terrific battery life of the s10 plus ?

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Before the update, after the update...
My phone doesnt hold 24h now...

Canard caché said:
All was so good,
I was able to hold 2 days with my use (it was incredible, with my s10 I held 24h).
And, then, last update...
And now, in one night of sleep 25-30% of drain ??? Oo
What is that Samsung ? Are you aware like u destroy ur product with this... especially when you advertise about the terrific battery life of the s10 plus ?
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I had my S10+ that ever had bad battery life, my s21+ looks like is much better, having 25% of drain in standby means there is an app that is causing that, when you talk about your last update, you should explain which version of firmware do you have now.

My T-Mo USA S21+ gets really great battery life. No change with the latest (AUAG) USA firmware. My S10 got very good battery life (24 Hrs +) but the S21+ (so far) gives me 2 days with MANY hours of screen on time.
Here's a partial dump of a discharge to 10%:

I'm using the exynos variant. I bought the phone on 13th Feb. The battery life is really realty bad for a 4800mah device. I was getting a expecting a decent battery life. But I'm getting like 4.5hrs SOT for 10.5 hours usage which is like half of what snapdragon verison is giving. This sucks. Should have waited for op9pro. Made a huge mistake.!!

tvBilly said:
My T-Mo USA S21+ gets really great battery life. No change with the latest (AUAG) USA firmware. My S10 got very good battery life (24 Hrs +) but the S21+ (so far) gives me 2 days with MANY hours of screen on time.
Here's a partial dump of a discharge to 10%:
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Did you use it 60hz refresh rate ? This is insane battery life . I'm getting nowhere near this !!

I'm getting 2h SOT if I'm lucky, on AUB9.
Really wondering where those big differences between different users come from...

mohansethu said:
Did you use it 60hz refresh rate ? This is insane battery life . I'm getting nowhere near this !!
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No, that is with Adaptive Motion Smoothness (120Hz) turned on.
I thought maybe my AOD was adding too much Screen On time, giving me a very misleading value, so in one of the tests I made i just played a few movies, and I still got hours and hours of battery life. I have no idea why there is such a variance.
Edit: So I thought of two things to mention. I run my screen brightness at about 35%. If you run yours much higher, that could effect your results significantly. If you use your phone outside a lot and it's set to automaticly adjust its brightness, that could set the screen brighness very high (for when you're outside). Also, I have bluetooth turned off.
2nd Edit: I ran another test last night and I'm surprised to report that there was no significant difference at full screen brightness versus my normal 35% brightness. I had Netflix playing for 3 hours at normal brightness followed by 3 hours at full brightness and the slope of the battery level curve is essentially the same. I'm at a lost to explain this as well as it's been my experience that screen brightness significantly affects power usage.
fwiw

My battery life seems okay but charging is very slow. I've never had so much trouble getting up to a full charge

tvBilly said:
No, that is with Adaptive Motion Smoothness (120Hz) turned on.
I thought maybe my AOD was adding too much Screen On time, giving me a very misleading value, so in one of the tests I made i just played a few movies, and I still got hours and hours of battery life. I have no idea why there is such a variance.
Edit: So I thought of two things to mention. I run my screen brightness at about 35%. If you run yours much higher, that could effect your results significantly. If you use your phone outside a lot and it's set to automaticly adjust its brightness, that could set the screen brighness very high (for when you're outside). Also, I have bluetooth turned off.
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I use it outside about 2 hrs a day. That too usage. Only for changing the song. Nothing more . I use dual sim .listen to music atleast 1 hour a day via Bluetooth. Even then what you are getting is truly amazing.

mohansethu said:
I use it outside about 2 hrs a day. That too usage. Only for changing the song. Nothing more . I use dual sim .listen to music atleast 1 hour a day via Bluetooth. Even then what you are getting is truly amazing.
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I did some tests the other night and much to my surprise turning up the screen from my usual 35% to full didn't make much of a difference.
I'm in the habit of using the "Close all" function in the recent apps screen almost all the time. Maybe that makes a difference?

I'm trying all the scenarios to reach that level of battery life but I go out for atleast 3 hrs a day. So I use my phone in mobile data as well. That also contribute. Yeah closing all applications all the time prevent unnecessary background process. That may actually help in apps like Twitter and Instagram.

Here is the latest I have managed . I removed one of the sim and used carefully . This is the best I have managed so far. But again, I use it outdoors with mobile internet for atleast an hour of screen time. 3 hours of outdoor usage . I'm still not sure if it's a good battery life but I will take it.

As a new S21+ owner I can say that I have had great battery life so far consistently getting 7.5-8 sot. This is with the latest march update.

mohansethu said:
Here is the latest I have managed . I removed one of the sim and used carefully . This is the best I have managed so far. But again, I use it outdoors with mobile internet for atleast an hour of screen time. 3 hours of outdoor usage . I'm still not sure if it's a good battery life but I will take it.
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Watch some YouTube videos on battery optimizations

My battery has been good so far exynos.

mohansethu said:
I'm using the exynos variant. I bought the phone on 13th Feb. The battery life is really realty bad for a 4800mah device. I was getting a expecting a decent battery life. But I'm getting like 4.5hrs SOT for 10.5 hours usage which is like half of what snapdragon verison is giving. This sucks. Should have waited for op9pro. Made a huge mistake.!!View attachment 5223623
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Hi. Looking at your screenshot, it seems you are using an Indian variant. I do not want to get into specifics, but Indian networks are far more congested compared to other countries. So the modem has to work 4 times as hard compared to say the US. Also, dual sims nearly halve the standby time. So the usage you have is fine and I wouldnt worry too much about it.

Have anyone tried disable auto optimize app daily and disable adaptive battery.
Some say it really improve the battery on the previous samsung gen. I'm going to try it. And report to all of you guys.
Just came up to xda to search about anything related to battery and didn't find the solution yet.
Sometime I got a good battery like about 6 hours sot. The other day it just to bad only around 4 hours. It seems auto optimize overreacting to apps and make it closed and open daily causing a worst battery live. And the adaptive battery just seems not good at all in some report.

My best so far today, 10h of SoT doing mostly multimedia stuff. Exynos, 4G, 60Hz, April update. No power saving mode.

riyosakura said:
Have anyone tried disable auto optimize app daily and disable adaptive battery.
Some say it really improve the battery on the previous samsung gen. I'm going to try it. And report to all of you guys.
Just came up to xda to search about anything related to battery and didn't find the solution yet.
Sometime I got a good battery like about 6 hours sot. The other day it just to bad only around 4 hours. It seems auto optimize overreacting to apps and make it closed and open daily causing a worst battery live. And the adaptive battery just seems not good at all in some report.
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Im currently trying out power saving mode at 120hz . I will let you know if this works.