I was using my phone as usual, until I noticed that the battery haven't gone done for long, it lasted longer that usual.
No, power save mode was on.
No, greenify.
No cpu control to drop down the cpu freq.
This was on normal use.
I don't know how my phone did this, but yeah.
I took the first ss at 4%, after this, the phone went on to be on 4% for 15 min when screen was on the whole time until it dropped on 3%.
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Although I was using instagram, whatsapp, snapchat, browser and internet as usual.
And it took 25 mins to completely shut down.
So the phone gave me approx 9 Hours of SOT.
I am not sure how this happened. But it did.
The same phone use to give me 4 hours on Android 5.1.1
Then 6 hours on Android 6.0
But now it gave 9 hours.
That's it I'm RMAing this phone I get like 2 hours sot with amplify, greenify and powernap and even less without that. Now I know this is not normal. I am weary of dealing with Moto customer service but I guess there is no avoiding it jow
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That's it I'm RMAing this phone I get like 2 hours sot with amplify, greenify and powernap and even less without that. Now I know this is not normal. I am weary of dealing with Moto customer service but I guess there is no avoiding it jow
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No buddy dont use so many apps they interfere with Doze and other MM features. I tried using greenify my battery dropped. Then I removed 'greenify' and 'prevent running' from my phone I also used to use setCPU to drop the freq when the screen was off but that to hogging my battery, I guess that happened because it had to change the freq many times.
I removed setCPU too.
This was without any battery saving app.
Try doing that.
Unbelievable!
My X Style has only about 4 hours of SOT.
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My X Style has only about 4 hours of SOT.
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That's fairly average. I usually get between 4-5. You'll never see 9 hours and the probability of anyone else seeing it is about 0. I have no reason to be glued to my phone for 9 hours so I'm very happy with 4-5. Even that's more than I need to be on it.
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That's fairly average. I usually get between 4-5. You'll never see 9 hours and the probability of anyone else seeing it is about 0. I have no reason to be glued to my phone for 9 hours so I'm very happy with 4-5. Even that's more than I need to be on it.
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Well, I got 9.
I normally get 5-6 hours.
And now I am getting 7-8 hours.
You're right no one is ever glued to the phone for 9 hours straight, this was an on and off use. I didn't use my phone continuously for 9 hours. Just saying.
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Well, I got 9.
I normally get 5-6 hours.
And now I am getting 7-8 hours.
You're right no one is ever glued to the phone for 9 hours straight, this was an on and off use. I didn't use my phone continuously for 9 hours. Just saying.
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No offense, but I wouldn't call 9 hours of SOT over a period of 12 hours "on and off use". That's great that you got 9, its just unreasonable for everyone to expect that...even 7-8 hours. Yet, after seeing this, many will.
While this is certainly cool, but it's not very useful if it's not reproducible on other phones.
I have one lingering suspicion: your battery protection system may not be working correctly. Usually, a good amount of the phone's battery is set aside to prevent under and over charge. If those limitations were removed, you could get much longer battery life, at the expense of your long term battery health. I'm probably wrong, but just throwing that out there.
On the other hand, depending on how you use the phone, 9 hours may not be exceptional. I can easily get that amount while reading E-books at 20% brightness, for example. (Google Play Books uses almost no CPU). I can get about 7 browsing with Opera Mini (low CPU because page is rendered offsite).
I would have liked to see your detailed battery graph. You can get to it by tapping the battery graph in the normal battery view. The graph will expand and underlay it with line graphs showing what your radio conditions, wifi, etc. are like. So pretty please, if it happens again, please grab a screenshot of that too.
Also, what have you done to you phone? Can you describe your configuration in detail? I can't reproduce it because I'm unrooted, but perhaps someone else can.
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No offense, but I wouldn't call 9 hours of SOT over a period of 12 hours "on and off use". That's great that you got 9, its just unreasonable for everyone to expect that...even 7-8 hours. Yet, after seeing this, many will.
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None taken, seeing that would make you think so, and yeah I agree I was using my phone for a long time in that 12 hours, but the 9 hours SOT is only because I don't switch off my screen often, like If I am not doing anything on the phone and if its lying on the table or somewhere its on most of the times.
Also, I agree its unreasonable, but if I could find out the reason for this I would surely let all of you know and that would be great, atleast that's what I think.
I normally used to get 6-7 hours SOT, but even if it goes up by an hour it would helpful for people.
Peace.
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While this is certainly cool, but it's not very useful if it's not reproducible on other phones.
I have one lingering suspicion: your battery protection system may not be working correctly. Usually, a good amount of the phone's battery is set aside to prevent under and over charge. If those limitations were removed, you could get much longer battery life, at the expense of your long term battery health. I'm probably wrong, but just throwing that out there.
On the other hand, depending on how you use the phone, 9 hours may not be exceptional. I can easily get that amount while reading E-books at 20% brightness, for example. (Google Play Books uses almost no CPU). I can get about 7 browsing with Opera Mini (low CPU because page is rendered offsite).
I would have liked to see your detailed battery graph. You can get to it by tapping the battery graph in the normal battery view. The graph will expand and underlay it with line graphs showing what your radio conditions, wifi, etc. are like. So pretty please, if it happens again, please grab a screenshot of that too.
Also, what have you done to you phone? Can you describe your configuration in detail? I can't reproduce it because I'm unrooted, but perhaps someone else can.
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I have rooted the phone, I have removed some apps, which I didnt want.
Moto features are off.
But other than that I havent touched the system for battery improvements.
Also I have not removed any limitations as such.
This 9 hours was sudden.
After a long usage I realised the battery didnt go down.
So I took the battery reading and also took screenshots.
And yes, this I took a screenshot of the detailed battery graph too.
After this now I am getting 8 hours SOT.
I'll give it to you...that's impressive...especially with your signal in the red the entire time. A poor cell signal is a huge battery drain.
As you can see not everyone uses their this way. He for most of the time was basically on his phone. Average person won't do that. But good to know what pretty much can be the max on this phone
What was your screen brightness set at approximately?
I think chrome definitely serves as a huge battery hog. Don't see that on your charts, so I think it can contribute some as well.
Wow this is crazy
I only get 4h OS SOT mix 3g and Wi-Fi i don't know why
Ghost9867 said:
Wow this is crazy
I only get 4h OS SOT mix 3g and Wi-Fi i don't know why
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That's 100% normal. His experiences are an outlier.
AmeyRanberg said:
None taken, seeing that would make you think so, and yeah I agree I was using my phone for a long time in that 12 hours, but the 9 hours SOT is only because I don't switch off my screen often, like If I am not doing anything on the phone and if its lying on the table or somewhere its on most of the times.
Also, I agree its unreasonable, but if I could find out the reason for this I would surely let all of you know and that would be great, atleast that's what I think.
I normally used to get 6-7 hours SOT, but even if it goes up by an hour it would helpful for people.
Peace.
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There's no mystery to it you already know the reason you got 9 hours, it's in your first paragraph. When you leave your screen on while your cpu load is basically zero because you're not using your device your battery can last a pretty long time...
People getting 4 hours SOT which is perfectly normal when actually using the device shouldn't be mislead into thinking there's something wrong with their battery life.
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The 9 hours SOT is only because I don't switch off my screen often, like If I am not doing anything on the phone and if its lying on the table or somewhere its on most of the times.
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Well, that's one usage scenario . Now I know that if I turn off the screen timeout and leave it on a table I can expect 9hrs SOT and 12hrs total runtime. Don't know why I'd ever do that except maybe to start a bragging thread.
I get 4.5-5hrs SOT and 24hrs total runtime in my real life usage on AICP nigthlies. Not great but better than it was on stock LP or MM.
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There's no mystery to it you already know the reason you got 9 hours, it's in your first paragraph. When you leave your screen on while your cpu load is basically zero because you're not using your device your battery can last a pretty long time...
People getting 4 hours SOT which is perfectly normal when actually using the device shouldn't be mislead into thinking there's something wrong with their battery life.
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I never said I didnt use my device for long. I said I leave my screen on when I am not using it. But I used the device. Plus my network signal was weak too. That does take a toll on the battery.
Also I didnt mean the reason I get 9 hours SOT is because I leave the screen on, I mean this graph of 9 hours SOT in 12 hours usage was because I left the screen on.
Also I never said anything is wrong with battery of the people who get 4 hours SOT. Everybody including me is saying its perfectly normal.
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I would like to know how you did it. Flashing a factory image, using another rom / kernel, tweaking X setting... Maybe this help people, including me, as I am having really bad battery life
Are you connected to WiFi most of the time? I had the really bad battery drain issue while connected to WiFi after the 4.4.2 update. I lost about 30% of charge after 4ish hours while connected. Currently I'm at 92% after 3 hours
What battery drain?
Stock everything and I'm getting great battery. Location on high accuracy and location history off.
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2.5 hrs screen on time.
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Please don't turn this into ANOTHER "hey look at my battery" thread. The point of this is to know how people that had terrible battery life fixed it. If you always had, good for you but you have like over 9000 threads already to post that
Did you see my reply?
Franco kernel
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I would like to know how you did it. Flashing a factory image, using another rom / kernel, tweaking X setting... Maybe this help people, including me, as I am having really bad battery life
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\When you say that you have bad battery life, it would certainly help if you provided more details - screen print of battery usage, which apps are using more battery, screen on time, and betterbatteryplus wakelock details if possible.
The 'solution' will depend on what is draining your battery. It also depends on what your expectations are - you are not going to get 10 hours of screen on time (exaggeration, but I hope you understand what I am getting at) - so, if you can quantitatively express what you are expecting, and what you are getting, folks may be able to help you figure out how to address the issue.
A "bad battery life" statement doesn't really help much
Hero Of Time said:
Please don't turn this into ANOTHER "hey look at my battery" thread. The point of this is to know how people that had terrible battery life fixed it. If you always had, good for you but you have like over 9000 threads already to post that
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@aooga's post kinda outlines (part of) what to provide - graph of battery usage. Also get the screen print before that one that shows the usage by app/process. Include the other details that I mentioned above. The more details you provide, better the odds are that somebody may be able to help.
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Did you see my reply?
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Yep but that was not my problem, it hapenned with wifi and 3G
jj14 said:
\When you say that you have bad battery life, it would certainly help if you provided more details - screen print of battery usage, which apps are using more battery, screen on time, and betterbatteryplus wakelock details if possible.
The 'solution' will depend on what is draining your battery. It also depends on what your expectations are - you are not going to get 10 hours of screen on time (exaggeration, but I hope you understand what I am getting at) - so, if you can quantitatively express what you are expecting, and what you are getting, folks may be able to help you figure out how to address the issue.
A "bad battery life" statement doesn't really help much
@aooga's post kinda outlines (part of) what to provide - graph of battery usage. Also get the screen print before that one that shows the usage by app/process. Include the other details that I mentioned above. The more details you provide, better the odds are that somebody may be able to help.
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You are right. These are the battery stats:
Anyway, I flashed cataclysm + franco at it SEEMS better. Will comment tomorrow.
Hero Of Time said:
Yep but that was not my problem, it hapenned with wifi and 3G
You are right. These are the battery stats:
Anyway, I flashed cataclysm + franco at it SEEMS better. Will comment tomorrow.
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Have you had the same results when you didn't play Asphalt 8? In my experience Asphalt 8 drains the battery immensely. So if you played asphalt 8 for 30 min or so it would drain your battery about 15-20% or so. Even though it says it used only 6% it's a lot more because of the screen and the processing/graphics it has to use for the game.
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Have you had the same results when you didn't play Asphalt 8? In my experience Asphalt 8 drains the battery immensely. So if you played asphalt 8 for 30 min or so it would drain your battery about 15-20% or so. Even though it says it used only 6% it's a lot more because of the screen and the processing/graphics it has to use for the game.
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I only played it for 6 minutes lol..
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You've been playing games and had your screen on for a lot of time...that's gonna drain the battery very quickly on a phone with a large 1080p screen and a quad core processor
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I only played it for 6 minutes lol..
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Hmm that is a bit weird then. On a normal day of use without watching videos or playing games I'm usually at around 90% after 3-4 hours. So I figured if you played Asphalt for like 20 min or so it would explain the battery. Most battery drains are shown as "Android OS" or "Google Play Services" and that doesn't seem to be the case so I'm not sure. Whats your brightness on? Oh I actually didn't notice it showed the stats for Asphalt 8. For some reason (and I can be wrong) but it would show I played for 11 min for example but I would have really played for more. Also, would you mind showing your signal stats? It could also be your bad signal although I think that would be shown as "cell standy"
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Hmm that is a bit weird then. On a normal day of use without watching videos or playing games I'm usually at around 90% after 3-4 hours. So I figured if you played Asphalt for like 20 min or so it would explain the battery. Most battery drains are shown as "Android OS" or "Google Play Services" and that doesn't seem to be the case so I'm not sure. Whats your brightness on?
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Don't worry, as I said cataclysm ROM + franco kernel seems to have fixed it. It was on automatic anyway
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Don't worry, as I said cataclysm ROM + franco kernel seems to have fixed it. It was on automatic anyway
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Well Here are some top tips that i tried and pretty much help a lot
- Since i Live in the UK and we dont have large scale LTE, Make sure the phone isnt searching for it
- Running ART, I know its not much but it helped a bit
-Turn off google Now, I know many people like this but i dont really use it, At the very least turn off hotword detection in the settings
- Dont use Auto Brightness, its easy just find a brightness setting that you feel good with and keep it there
- Use Tasker, I use this for a lot of things but setup a profile in tasker that turns off things like mobile data and wifi in the hours when your going to be sleeping, This will reduce standby time loss, Tested it last night and i went to bed at 50% when i woke up 8+ hours later the phone was at 48%
- Change account syncing settings, This also reduces standby time loss make sure your phone is checking only every half an hour or so for email
From this morning up until like half an hour ago i was on about 48% - 17% with medium use and it lasted about 6-7 hours Ill post pictures when i go through a while day with these settings tomorrow.
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Well Here are some top tips that i tried and pretty much help a lot
- Since i Live in the UK and we dont have large scale LTE, Make sure the phone isnt searching for it
- Running ART, I know its not much but it helped a bit
-Turn off google Now, I know many people like this but i dont really use it, At the very least turn off hotword detection in the settings
- Dont use Auto Brightness, its easy just find a brightness setting that you feel good with and keep it there
- Use Tasker, I use this for a lot of things but setup a profile in tasker that turns off things like mobile data and wifi in the hours when your going to be sleeping, This will reduce standby time loss, Tested it last night and i went to bed at 50% when i woke up 8+ hours later the phone was at 48%
- Change account syncing settings, This also reduces standby time loss make sure your phone is checking only every half an hour or so for email
From this morning up until like half an hour ago i was on about 48% - 17% with medium use and it lasted about 6-7 hours Ill post pictures when i go through a while day with these settings tomorrow.
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Thank you for your advice:laugh:
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Hmm that is a bit weird then. On a normal day of use without watching videos or playing games I'm usually at around 90% after 3-4 hours. So I figured if you played Asphalt for like 20 min or so it would explain the battery. Most battery drains are shown as "Android OS" or "Google Play Services" and that doesn't seem to be the case so I'm not sure. Whats your brightness on? Oh I actually didn't notice it showed the stats for Asphalt 8. For some reason (and I can be wrong) but it would show I played for 11 min for example but I would have really played for more. Also, would you mind showing your signal stats? It could also be your bad signal although I think that would be shown as "cell standy"
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My phone signal is green the 99% of the time as I live in the main city of Tenerife. I disabled 4G as we don't have it here yet.
I really recommend cataclysm + franco to anyone with battery issues. It's definitely fixed for me. Will post battery stats this night or tomorrow
Yesterday a post was made to /r/nexus5 on reddit about how battery life was getting worse as time went on. Over 100 people replied saying that their phone was getting worse battery life as well. Here's the link: http://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus5/comments/1yxj2g/battery_life_went_from_insane_to_terrible/ The most people were able to find out was that there was a problem with the Android OS process. Are you guys having similar issues? And do you have any fixes?
Batteries do lose their max charge over time. We're now 6 months aged for the first purchased devices, so it could simply be those batteries are starting to age. They still have years to go, but a brand new battery will always be impressive.
It's one reason why I silently laugh at people bragging about great battery life for a brand new device. of course it will get good life, it's a new battery running optimized software that isn't pushing the hardware as hard as the software 2 years into a device life cycle.
posted by people that know nothing..
as time goes on, you install more and more apps. many apps arent coded very well, and have other issues. anyways, people get more and more of these crappy apps that will drain more and more battery without you even using them. anywho, not a problem here. i get pretty much the exact same battery life now as i did months ago.
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Hooya said:
Batteries do lose their max charge over time. We're now 6 months aged for the first purchased devices, so it could simply be those batteries are starting to age. They still have years to go, but a brand new battery will always be impressive.
It's one reason why I silently laugh at people bragging about great battery life for a brand new device. of course it will get good life, it's a new battery running optimized software that isn't pushing the hardware as hard as the software 2 years into a device life cycle.
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great battery life for an "old" device, 5-6 hours screen on time every single day. the batteries life doesnt reduce that quick, and generally youll change phones(within 2 years) before you see the life of your battery shorten.
Hooya said:
Batteries do lose their max charge over time. We're now 6 months aged for the first purchased devices, so it could simply be those batteries are starting to age. They still have years to go, but a brand new battery will always be impressive.
It's one reason why I silently laugh at people bragging about great battery life for a brand new device. of course it will get good life, it's a new battery running optimized software that isn't pushing the hardware as hard as the software 2 years into a device life cycle.
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6 months isn't going to be noticeably less max charge unless the battery was severely abused. Also the phone has been out for 4 months and most are younger.
Here's something to think about: Usage patterns change. People install new apps.
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Indeed usage patterns play a massive part. And some of which can be completely out of your control.
At home on WiFi I'll get 6-7 hours of screen time.
At home on hspa I'll get 5-6
At work on hspa I'll get 3-4
So at worst case scenario I can lose half of my normal battery usage just based on the carrier performance.
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I get about 3-4 hours SoT daily... If anything, that has gone up since I got my device (one of the first batches shipped in US).
I wish I could get 5-7 SoT, with numbers like that, I'm beginning to think I'm doing something very very wrong
Point is... I have one of the first phones shipped out, and my battery life has stayed exactly the same.
High battery usage by Android OS is probably good indication that there are some wakelocks. It has nothing to do with battery being "older".
My battery is great from day one.
Captain obvious mode now:
Posting SoT is pointless and proves nothing. It really depends on what you are doing when screen is on. It is really obvious that it is not the same if you read some book with 5% brightness or play a game.
My SoTs go from 2h up to 7h, depending on usage...
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wake lock is main reason makes battery drains so much. try to use greenify to hibernate apps.
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Tenhi said:
Captain obvious mode now:
Posting SoT is pointless and proves nothing. It really depends on what you are doing when screen is on. It is really obvious that it is not the same if you read some book with 5% brightness or play a game.
My SoTs go from 2h up to 7h, depending on usage...
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LOL. Yep. Give me a day and I'll show you screenies of ten hours of SOT. It'll be BS because to get those results I have to set my phones brightness to less than stock. I also have to set screen timeout to 30 minutes. As well I need to remember to turn the damn screen back on after 30 minutes. I also have to make sure my phone is in my sock drawer doing nothing when the screen is on. It'll still show 10 hours SOT though.
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LOL. Yep. Give me a day and I'll show you screenies of ten hours of SOT. It'll be BS because to get those results I have to set my phones brightness to less than stock. I also have to set screen timeout to 30 minutes. As well I need to remember to turn the damn screen back on after 30 minutes. I also have to make sure my phone is in my sock drawer doing nothing when the screen is on. It'll still show 10 hours SOT though.
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Only 10? Think you could do much higher in those conditions.
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Yesterday a post was made to /r/nexus5 on reddit about how battery life was getting worse as time went on. Over 100 people replied saying that their phone was getting worse battery life as well. Here's the link: http://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus5/comments/1yxj2g/battery_life_went_from_insane_to_terrible/ The most people were able to find out was that there was a problem with the Android OS process. Are you guys having similar issues? And do you have any fixes?
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Yeah, the common problem.... My battery just is used for 5 hours.
But there are some fixs to follow:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1168036
I posted my usual screen times on a typical day for me.
Typically I do the same things which are a lot of xda and viewing the verge and YouTube. A few calls and texts.
And from my experience the difference between being at home with WiFi off and being at work with WiFi off is that my battery usually lasts nearly twice as long at home.
I was trying to get across the message that your carriers signal strength plays a massive role on how long your battery lasts.
So say if a mast went down and you get bumped onto one a bit further away (they don't rush when fixing these things unless it's a critical one). You would have done nothing and all of a sudden your battery life has started taking a massive hit.
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I'm also having this problem with the android os draining my batter And this started happening within the last week or so.I used to be able to easily get about 30 hours out of my phone, now I'm only able to get about half that. As you can see in the 4th pic, android os has been the cause of a 3h45m partial wakelock, which doesnt seem right to me and is probably the cause of most of the battery drain. the last 2 pics are something that also seems weird to me, as google accounts manager shouldnt take 4% in about an hour. I dont even know why its running that long. Though i know how to quick fix the account manager drain (simply disable it) the android os isnt that simple as i dont know how to see exactly what apps or processes are making it cause a partial wakelock.
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I had a similar issue a while back, and in the end it was Google location reporting within Google now service. Try to switch location reporting off but leave location history on and see if it helps. Also choose Location mode to battery saving.
Turning off location reporting does not affect Google Now functionality...
It can be something else in your case, but this problem was common...
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One thing I've noticed as a weirdness is the cache of a phone can get stale and so it gets into some weird loop that drains battery or something and clearing the cache improves battery life. Also sometimes apps can develop bugs or new wakelocks when you do an update so sometimes you have to stay on top of it to track it.
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One thing I've noticed as a weirdness is the cache of a phone can get stale and so it gets into some weird loop that drains battery or something and clearing the cache improves battery life. Also sometimes apps can develop bugs or new wakelocks when you do an update so sometimes you have to stay on top of it to track it.
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Thanks for the cache thing I have never thought about that before :good:
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If I did not use some preventative measures to prolong battery life I would maybe get 14-16 hours in a day of usage, I always left wifi on, bluetooth even when not connected, data, force LTE, etc. I did not care because I charge my phone every night. I just find it silly if I get a day usage out of my phone and it is at 50% well assuming you use the phone the exact same as the last day you will use another 50% and it will be dead by the time you get to your charger.
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Read this as a foreword - it's not a must
I've been using my OnePlus One for about a year, and at first the battery was great, but after upgrading to CM12S it seemd like it got much worse. this case wasn't only for me ofcourse.. many other users of CM12s and basically any Lollipop device had complained about a decreased battery life. their evidence to that was their SoT- which used to be (and I'm talking about the majority) around 4-5 hrs back at KitKat days, and had dropped down to 3-4 once they had gotten the 5.0-5.1.1 Updates.
that was caused by a number of things- among of them was the Google Services Wake bug etc.
Now to the point-
My OPO used to get 4.5+ SoT ( Screen on Time) back @ Kitkat days. since the upgrade to LP it went down to 3-4 max.
And then I've tried something-
I simply changed the settings of display, to turn off the display after 30 minutes of screen idle (it was 15 seconds before).
And the results?
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The suggested conclusion is- SoT is a lie.
If prior to the changes I've made on the display settings, I'd get ~15% @ the end of the day ( say 11PM/23:00 ) and a 3.5hrs SoT, I can now get to ~5% at the end of the day ( again 11PM/23:00 ) by simply raising those values. does it mean that I've used the phone more? well, no, it simply tells us that SoT isn't that trustworthy as we thought.
Opinions?
So, I have my display off time set to 1 minute and get the same SoT at the end of the day (6+ hours).
Stock CM12.1, no tweaks, no greenify.
Nothing changed since kitkat
It's not a lie, but it is a terrible measure of battery life. Sure the screen consumes a lot of power, but it's not the only thing eating energy, using the phone while the screen is on is a huge burden and especially when I comes to using the GPS there can be a huge disparity between a person that leaves the phone on a counter and a person walking around triggering the sudden motion sensor.
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Lidor167 said:
Hello XDAres
Read this as a foreword - it's not a must
I've been using my OnePlus One for about a year, and at first the battery was great, but after upgrading to CM12S it seemd like it got much worse. this case wasn't only for me ofcourse.. many other users of CM12s and basically any Lollipop device had complained about a decreased battery life. their evidence to that was their SoT- which used to be (and I'm talking about the majority) around 4-5 hrs back at KitKat days, and had dropped down to 3-4 once they had gotten the 5.0-5.1.1 Updates.
that was caused by a number of things- among of them was the Google Services Wake bug etc.
Now to the point-
My OPO used to get 4.5+ SoT ( Screen on Time) back @ Kitkat days. since the upgrade to LP it went down to 3-4 max.
And then I've tried something-
I simply changed the settings of display, to turn off the display after 30 minutes of screen idle (it was 15 seconds before).
And the results?
The suggested conclusion is- SoT is a lie.
If prior to the changes I've made on the display settings, I'd get ~15% @ the end of the day ( say 11PM/23:00 ) and a 3.5hrs SoT, I can now get to ~5% at the end of the day ( again 11PM/23:00 ) by simply raising those values. does it mean that I've used the phone more? well, no, it simply tells us that SoT isn't that trustworthy as we thought.
Opinions?
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The SOT reported is not a lie, it's completely accurate. You're not thinking about this properly. If you previously had it set to turn off after 15 seconds, then we can be confident that when the screen was on you were actually using the phone and depleting the battery. Since changing it to turn off after 30 minutes we can be confident that after using your phone you'd put it down and the screen would remain on but the battery wouldn't be depleting like it normally would if you were actually using it. Of course you got more SOT, you'll always get more SOT if the phone is sitting on a table with the screen on but not actually being used.
This is the worst premise to start a thread with and to top it off the test you did is so bad I'm at a loss for words. You clearly disproved your point from the beginning. Your normal usage that you had on KitKat gave you more SOT than on Lollipop. Some people have different results though. Changing the display time out doesn't mean anything. You could have as well kept charging the phone not letting it reach 90% and shown a 12hr SOT and the second screenshot you could have reused an old one. No one would know
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The SOT reported is not a lie, it's completely accurate. You're not thinking about this properly. If you previously had it set to turn off after 15 seconds, then we can be confident that when the screen was on you were actually using the phone and depleting the battery. Since changing it to turn off after 30 minutes we can be confident that after using your phone you'd put it down and the screen would remain on but the battery wouldn't be depleting like it normally would if you were actually using it. Of course you got more SOT, you'll always get more SOT if the phone is sitting on a table with the screen on but not actually being used.
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This is the worst premise to start a thread with and to top it off the test you did is so bad I'm at a loss for words. You clearly disproved your point from the beginning. Your normal usage that you had on KitKat gave you more SOT than on Lollipop. Some people have different results though. Changing the display time out doesn't mean anything. You could have as well kept charging the phone not letting it reach 90% and shown a 12hr SOT and the second screenshot you could have reused an old one. No one would know
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Have you both seen my suggestested connclusion?
I said that SoT isn't always turstworthy, that is my point, and I've showed that I can use the phone ( a normal daily usage ) for one day and get 3.5 SoT, and the next day I'd get nearly 6hrs SoT. and again, those are the results of about the same usage, the only difference was the screen turn off time.
Thus, we can conclude that people who post pictures of a ~5hrs SoT @ a LP ROM, or in the other and, people who post pictures of ~3.5hrs SoT @ a LP ROM, haven't necessarily have a 'worse/better' battery.
It depends on too many f actors, so we cannot take SoT as a confirmation of a good/bad battery life.
Lidor167 said:
Have you both seen my suggestested connclusion?
I said that SoT isn't always turstworthy, that is my point, and I've showed that I can use the phone ( a normal daily usage ) for one day and get 3.5 SoT, and the next day I'd get nearly 6hrs SoT. and again, those are the results of about the same usage, the only difference was the screen turn off time.
Thus, we can conclude that people who post pictures of a ~5hrs SoT @ a LP ROM, or in the other and, people who post pictures of ~3.5hrs SoT @ a LP ROM, haven't necessarily have a 'worse/better' battery.
It depends on too many f actors, so we cannot take SoT as a confirmation of a good/bad battery life.
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SOT is trustworthy just your test is dumb. It's a half baked theory and you're trying to convince yourself you got a good idea. Most grown people don't post fake SOT hence why it's always been a great indicator of battery life especially if usage patterns are similar (that's the key here). Other factors come into play like rogue apps but not the factors you're trying to manufacture with your lame test
Lidor167 said:
Have you both seen my suggestested connclusion?
I said that SoT isn't always turstworthy, that is my point, and I've showed that I can use the phone ( a normal daily usage ) for one day and get 3.5 SoT, and the next day I'd get nearly 6hrs SoT. and again, those are the results of about the same usage, the only difference was the screen turn off time. I say this to anyone asking how battery life is on a certain ROM or build: the only way to find out is via your own testing.
Thus, we can conclude that people who post pictures of a ~5hrs SoT @ a LP ROM, or in the other and, people who post pictures of ~3.5hrs SoT @ a LP ROM, haven't necessarily have a 'worse/better' battery.
It depends on too many f actors, so we cannot take SoT as a confirmation of a good/bad battery life.
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Yes I read it, but your logic that you use to make your argument is completely illogical. The conclusion is right; there are too many unique factors for each user to take into consideration, so two users with the exact same ROM can have wildly differing battery consumption experiences. I say this to anyone asking about battery life on a ROM or build: the only way to find out is via your own testing.
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SOT is trustworthy just your test is dumb. It's a half baked theory and you're trying to convince yourself you got a good idea. Most grown people don't post fake SOT hence why it's always been a great indicator of battery life especially if usage patterns are similar (that's the key here). Other factors come into play like rogue apps but not the factors you're trying to manufacture with your lame test
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I see that it is hard for you to say what you have to say without being so rude, for an unknown reason.
I'll still answer you-
Person A- Gets 5.5hrs SoT and he is happy.
Person B- Gets 3.5hrs SoT and he isn't happy.
Both use the same ROM, and both get to 11PM with 15% Battery.
Person A- read emails for a few hours.
Person B- only used facebook a little, navigated for a few minutes, used whatsapp and played Temple Run 2 for about 30 minuets.
both batteries lasted for the entire day.
Person A's phone mainly drained the battery for using the screen- thus the higher SoT.
Person B's phone mainly drained the battery for Data Usage,GPS,GPU etc- thus the lower SoT.
Person A- thinks his battery life is awesome.
Person B- thinks his battery life sucks.
both of them get to that conclusion by checking their SoT.
kapish?
Lidor167 said:
I see that it is hard for you to say what you have to say without being so rude, for an unknown reason.
I'll still answer you-
Person A- Gets 5.5hrs SoT and he is happy.
Person B- Gets 3.5hrs SoT and he isn't happy.
Both use the same ROM, and both get to 11PM with 15% Battery.
Person A- read emails for a few hours.
Person B- only used facebook a little, navigated for a few minutes, used whatsapp and played Temple Run 2 for about 30 minuets.
both batteries lasted for the entire day.
Person A's phone mainly drained the battery for using the screen- thus the higher SoT.
Person B's phone mainly drained the battery for Data Usage,GPS,GPU etc- thus the lower SoT.
Person A- thinks his battery life is awesome.
Person B- thinks his battery life sucks.
both of them get to that conclusion by checking their SoT.
kapish?
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You're still not getting what I mean and used a very obvious example. I am specifically focusing on YOUR experience, not usage patterns between two different people. You had better battery life on KitKat and I assume your usage patterns and apps have remained generally the same. That's why it's logical to assume Lollipop has worse battery life due to different SOT.
The difference between two people can have too many factors to even bother considering. But judging from your own experiences on different ROMs or Android versions you'll get a clearer idea that your usage will give you. But this assume that the usage is NORMAL not increasing time-out to 30 mins to manufacture results to prove a point
Lidor167 said:
I see that it is hard for you to say what you have to say without being so rude, for an unknown reason.
I'll still answer you-
Person A- Gets 5.5hrs SoT and he is happy.
Person B- Gets 3.5hrs SoT and he isn't happy.
Both use the same ROM, and both get to 11PM with 15% Battery.
Person A- read emails for a few hours.
Person B- only used facebook a little, navigated for a few minutes, used whatsapp and played Temple Run 2 for about 30 minuets.
both batteries lasted for the entire day.
Person A's phone mainly drained the battery for using the screen- thus the higher SoT.
Person B's phone mainly drained the battery for Data Usage,GPS,GPU etc- thus the lower SoT.
Person A- thinks his battery life is awesome.
Person B- thinks his battery life sucks.
both of them get to that conclusion by checking their SoT.
kapish?
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You had to make a thread for this? Everyone knows this stuff.
Which is why when posting SOT stats its common to post your App usage stats along with some description (like WiFi/data usage, Location active or not, auto sync on or not)
I too find your thread absurd just cuz your little experiment has such obvious results it's ridiculous you had to point that out.
I prefer better idle drain rather than high SOT
SOT is a lie for "end users"
I have went up to 8.5 hours of SOT with 40+ mins on call with CM11S-05Q, and on average was getting 6.5-7 hours of SOT with 1.5+ hours call time on 26-32 hours frame.
Moving to COS12 was a bummer, but with COS12.1, just a few days back with some more modification with Amplify was able to get a staggering 6.5+ hours SOT which I had been getting with Custom ROMs like AICP easy ...
So it jots down to the user, how is the user is using the phone, what has he done over the stock behavior of the phone to boost the battery performance, Amplify, Greenify, OS tweaks, myandroidtoolspro etc comes handy.
Again, if you use the phone with stock behavior, you wouldn't be here at XDA.
Oneplus One has best battery performance I have seen in years, since the time of Motorola Atrix 2 and recently Droid Turbo. Motorola had been ruling in battery domain since beginning of android smartphones, cause they were the dudes who made cellphones to begin with, and the only device in which I saw a similar performance is OPO. So SOT isn't a lie, absolutely not.
Lidor, the issue you have is Mobile Radio Active Bug, Google it.
SoT is not intended as a general and absolute battery meter.
It does what is says, it tells you how long the screen has been on after unplugging it from a power source.
Note: Of course when the screen is on consumes part of battery life.
So, SoT is not a lie, is a honest indicator of how long the screen was on.
Why the screen was on? That's the real question, and SoT is not competent to answer.
SoT alone is not enough to compare the battery life between os versions.
What if someone asks: How long will the engine of a car stay on with 10L of fuel?
This is my (educated) Opinion regarding SoT.
sot emm.
I've had my AT&T Note 10 plus for over a week now, and for the first week the battery life was stellar. Three days ago seemingly out of nowhere, battery life had tanked. Some context - I came from a Note 9 which had fantastic battery life. Location on, widgets, notifications, etc were enabled. I feel I shouldn't have to yield to or cripple my phone to get decent battery life from it so I refuse to do that on a device that costs this much. It should just work.
Anyway, fast-forward to three days ago with my note 10+ - same settings and everything as my previous note 9 - and out of nowhere the battery life just starts to tank. Android System is seems to be the drain, but I'm not sure what in there is causing it. The phone is constantly warm. As an experiment, I've put it on airplane mode now with wifi still on and the phone has cooled down but I'm not sure yet if the battery is being drained less or not as it's only been a few minutes. But, I am losing about 6% battery/hr not even using the phone. That is rather unacceptable after it having worked just fine the first several days I've had it. I refuse to disable location and do other seemingly band-aid tricks to help the battery along as I don't feel that really solves the issue and should be unnecessary for a device that costs this much money. I also refuse to factory reset unless I ABSOLUTELY have to because these phones are a pain in the rear to setup, even with Samsung/Google's restore. So many settings to go in and manipulate.
I hope this resolves itself or I can get to the bottom of it somehow. I really love this phone and really don't want to go back to my iPhone XS Max over a battery issue but it is just unacceptable for the battery to drain like this with little to no actual use of the phone. The other night by the time I had placed it on the charger, android system was up over 30%...
is anyone else experiencing this problem?
I apologize if this has been discussed before - I couldn't find anything similar.
EDIT
After putting the phone in airplane mode (wifi left on), it has cooled down and battery drain seems to have improved. According to the battery graph it looks like the phone is also finally going to sleep. Previously the graph went straight down to the right with no flat spots.
What could this be? My cell reception hasn't changed and I'm at wit's end
peterdayeh said:
I've had my AT&T Note 10 plus for over a week now, and for the first week the battery life was stellar. Three days ago seemingly out of nowhere, battery life had tanked. Some context - I came from a Note 9 which had fantastic battery life. Location on, widgets, notifications, etc were enabled. I feel I shouldn't have to yield to or cripple my phone to get decent battery life from it so I refuse to do that on a device that costs this much. It should just work.
Anyway, fast-forward to three days ago with my note 10+ - same settings and everything as my previous note 9 - and out of nowhere the battery life just starts to tank. Android System is seems to be the drain, but I'm not sure what in there is causing it. The phone is constantly warm. As an experiment, I've put it on airplane mode now with wifi still on and the phone has cooled down but I'm not sure yet if the battery is being drained less or not as it's only been a few minutes. But, I am losing about 6% battery/hr not even using the phone. That is rather unacceptable after it having worked just fine the first several days I've had it. I refuse to disable location and do other seemingly band-aid tricks to help the battery along as I don't feel that really solves the issue and should be unnecessary for a device that costs this much money. I also refuse to factory reset unless I ABSOLUTELY have to because these phones are a pain in the rear to setup, even with Samsung/Google's restore. So many settings to go in and manipulate.
I hope this resolves itself or I can get to the bottom of it somehow. I really love this phone and really don't want to go back to my iPhone XS Max over a battery issue but it is just unacceptable for the battery to drain like this with little to no actual use of the phone. The other night by the time I had placed it on the charger, android system was up over 30%...
is anyone else experiencing this problem?
I apologize if this has been discussed before - I couldn't find anything similar.
EDIT
After putting the phone in airplane mode (wifi left on), it has cooled down and battery drain seems to have improved. According to the battery graph it looks like the phone is also finally going to sleep. Previously the graph went straight down to the right with no flat spots.
What could this be? My cell reception hasn't changed and I'm at wit's end
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I use Naptime from the play store by Francisco Franco and no as the title of his app says you don't get 9000% better battery. You'll need a couple of adb commands to get it to work it you're not rooted.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.franco.doze&hl=en
This is a quote from Franco - Unbelievably improve the battery life during idle of your device by empowering Android's built-in Doze power saving functionality. It supports Marshmallow, Nougat, Oreo and now Pie. It features more options for rooted devices, but it'll also work if you're unrooted.
Naptime also allows you to disable WiFi, mobile data, location & bluetooth during doze for that battery life /flex ?
I find that I'm losing around 1 to 0.7% per hour is that normal or considered good? The other night my phone was at 95% I woke up 6 or so hours later and it was a 89%. I'll need to do some thorough testing, but I don't know what to make of those results.
Anyone on here have some advice on weather that idle time is good or bad? My device is an unlocked n10plus running Snapdragon
-If you charge to 100 and put it next to your bed. How much is it next morning?
-do you use the led cover?
-are there any less known apps in your list?
Switching off wifi, Bluetooth etc is useless. These are efficient enough nowadays.
I tested these kind of "tricks" and no difference after my nightly sleep test.
Sometimes an app like evernote, google foto's or journey is downloading a lot of data in your new phone.
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With all my last Notes I get a .6 till .9% per hour in a situation where i put my Note next to my bed and do not touch it during sleeping hours.
I live on three different locations, in different countries even, and that shows some battery consuming difference. Routers and provider locations are not the same.
I have more than 180 apps installed. No games however.
I am not rooted, but use GSAM battery monitor. The quickest way to see the hourly consumption.
Factory reset means a full day work for me. E.g. banking apps need a lot of tuning. Even using Google and Samsung restore.
herpi said:
-If you charge to 100 and put it next to your bed. How much is it next morning?
-do you use the led cover?
-are there any less known apps in your list?
Switching off wifi, Bluetooth etc is useless. These are efficient enough nowadays.
I tested these kind of "tricks" and no difference after my nightly sleep test.
Sometimes an app like evernote, google foto's or journey is downloading a lot of data in your new phone.
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With all my last Notes I get a .6 till .9% per hour in a situation where i put my Note next to my bed and do not touch it during sleeping hours.
I live on three different locations, in different countries even, and that shows some battery consuming difference. Routers and provider locations are not the same.
I have more than 180 apps installed. No games however.
I am not rooted, but use GSAM battery monitor. The quickest way to see the hourly consumption.
Factory reset means a full day work for me. E.g. banking apps need a lot of tuning. Even using Google and Samsung restore.
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I charge it overnight while I'm sleeping. No lesser-known apps installed, no LED cover either. Not rooted. this literally happened out of nowhere after days of it being great. Not sure what could have happened, or if it's something on ATT's end? I don't know where else to look. I'm with you on the factory reset. It's such a waste of time and will take up hours.
mine also been facing this battery drain issue since day one. Tried using naptime just now and it improve my battery life ALOT!! Thanks for the suggestion
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I charge it overnight while I'm sleeping. No lesser-known apps installed, no LED cover either. Not rooted. this literally happened out of nowhere after days of it being great. Not sure what could have happened, or if it's something on ATT's end? I don't know where else to look. I'm with you on the factory reset. It's such a waste of time and will take up hours.
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Pls try to charge it before going to bed and leave it to see how much it spends overnight w i t h o u t touching it. If it is higher than 1+%/hr something is wrong..
I buy a new phone every year because I am nuts. But I always register in Evernote my findings.
Frequently the power consumption is higher in the beginning, because a lot of background activity like data reading and background update of software.
If it is more than, let's say 1.2%/hr during overnight sleep it is not ok.
I am doing this test now with my Note 10+ 512 (Yes i am nuts, I told you) and will inform you later.
After seven hours .8%/hr which is normal.
herpi said:
Pls try to charge it before going to bed and leave it to see how much it spends overnight w i t h o u t touching it. If it is higher than 1+%/hr something is wrong..
I buy a new phone every year because I am nuts. But I always register in Evernote my findings.
Frequently the power consumption is higher in the beginning, because a lot of background activity like data reading and background update of software.
If it is more than, let's say 1.2%/hr during overnight sleep it is not ok.
I am doing this test now with my Note 10+ 512 (Yes i am nuts, I told you) and will inform you later.
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I can tell you right now that it's losing 5-6% an hour just sitting there. The phone has been set up for days now so I know it's not the setup process. Like i said, it was fine for almost a week, then out of nowhere this happens...
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I can tell you right now that it's losing 5-6% an hour just sitting there. The phone has been set up for days now so I know it's not the setup process. Like i said, it was fine for almost a week, then out of nowhere this happens...
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Pffff, you have a problem. So in settings/maintenance/battery there no apps with high use?
After just rebooting the phone the consumption starts immediately?
herpi said:
Pffff, you have a problem. So in settings/maintenance/battery there no apps with high use?
After just rebooting the phone the consumption starts immediately?
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Yes...I know I have a problem...Android System is the culprit. Beyond that, I do not know what in "android system" is causing it. Perhaps a wake lock bug? A wifi bug?
It's always the same with my Samsung devices it's rediciculus Samsung. On your note 10 or note 10+ before switching to flight mode set the network setting to 3g only! In 7 hours you will loose only 2% battery instead of 8 or more. Same was on my note 9 but Samsung finally patched this behavior a few month ago. Now the same with my note 10+.
This problem is only for the flight mode. So you can test 3 things in 3 nights. You have 3 options before going in flight mode. In network selection choose 3g only. Than watch what happens over night. Next time you choose 2g/3g only and you can try it with 2g only.
For me doing so 1-2 % battery drain in 7-8 hours.
I've pretty bad reception with 4G. But no crazy 25% drain over night, more like 4-5%. And that's with the non plus Note with exynos.
With naptime, do you get notifications instantly? I have auto sync on all the time, is there any issues around this?
Just bought a new galaxy note 10 and overnight from 100 % i have 57 this morning. Whats going on?
Is this normal on note 10 plus battery health?
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My N10+ is about 3 weeks old, but I found, like you, that after a couple days of stellar battery life my idle was starting to drain pretty fast. Going to bed and waking about 6 hours later I was missing around 20%. This is with all apps closed, WiFi, BT, Location, Link to Windows, Mobile data, NFC, Sync, and AOD turned on. I turned off AOD, NFC, and Link to Windows. My battery drain since, for the better part of 2 weeks, has been about 5-6 percent. Around 1% an hour while sleeping. I don't know how I can help, but I hope this does. I honestly can't complain about this battery. I have been getting 6-7 of screen time before having to charge around 10%.
Edit: also turned off edge lighting, which I had enabled before.
ehm so you made your top shelf 1000$ device into a feature phone ... that's no solution
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ehm so you made your top shelf 1000$ device into a feature phone ... that's no solution
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I don't remember saying, "Here's a solution for you!" No, I simply posted what I did to stop the horrible battery drain that I was experiencing.
Also, I spent the $1,100 on this phone and I'm pretty sure I can use it however I want. Feature phone, paper weight, fish tank decoration..:good:
My N10+ has been sat on my desk and not used for 4 hours yet battery has gone from 100% to 78%.
I don't know how this is acceptable.
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My N10+ has been sat on my desk and not used for 4 hours yet battery has gone from 100% to 78%.
I don't know how this is acceptable.
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I have the reg note 10 and ive been battling this for a couple weeks. nothing seems to keep the system from sucking the batter dry. Standby life is a joke. i lost 40% today with the phone on for about 10 hours and 30 min SOT while i was at work. I cant figure out whats stuck in the system, tried literally everything
All was so good,
I was able to hold 2 days with my use (it was incredible, with my s10 I held 24h).
And, then, last update...
And now, in one night of sleep 25-30% of drain ??? Oo
What is that Samsung ? Are you aware like u destroy ur product with this... especially when you advertise about the terrific battery life of the s10 plus ?
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Before the update, after the update...
My phone doesnt hold 24h now...
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All was so good,
I was able to hold 2 days with my use (it was incredible, with my s10 I held 24h).
And, then, last update...
And now, in one night of sleep 25-30% of drain ??? Oo
What is that Samsung ? Are you aware like u destroy ur product with this... especially when you advertise about the terrific battery life of the s10 plus ?
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I had my S10+ that ever had bad battery life, my s21+ looks like is much better, having 25% of drain in standby means there is an app that is causing that, when you talk about your last update, you should explain which version of firmware do you have now.
My T-Mo USA S21+ gets really great battery life. No change with the latest (AUAG) USA firmware. My S10 got very good battery life (24 Hrs +) but the S21+ (so far) gives me 2 days with MANY hours of screen on time.
Here's a partial dump of a discharge to 10%:
I'm using the exynos variant. I bought the phone on 13th Feb. The battery life is really realty bad for a 4800mah device. I was getting a expecting a decent battery life. But I'm getting like 4.5hrs SOT for 10.5 hours usage which is like half of what snapdragon verison is giving. This sucks. Should have waited for op9pro. Made a huge mistake.!!
tvBilly said:
My T-Mo USA S21+ gets really great battery life. No change with the latest (AUAG) USA firmware. My S10 got very good battery life (24 Hrs +) but the S21+ (so far) gives me 2 days with MANY hours of screen on time.
Here's a partial dump of a discharge to 10%:
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Did you use it 60hz refresh rate ? This is insane battery life . I'm getting nowhere near this !!
I'm getting 2h SOT if I'm lucky, on AUB9.
Really wondering where those big differences between different users come from...
mohansethu said:
Did you use it 60hz refresh rate ? This is insane battery life . I'm getting nowhere near this !!
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No, that is with Adaptive Motion Smoothness (120Hz) turned on.
I thought maybe my AOD was adding too much Screen On time, giving me a very misleading value, so in one of the tests I made i just played a few movies, and I still got hours and hours of battery life. I have no idea why there is such a variance.
Edit: So I thought of two things to mention. I run my screen brightness at about 35%. If you run yours much higher, that could effect your results significantly. If you use your phone outside a lot and it's set to automaticly adjust its brightness, that could set the screen brighness very high (for when you're outside). Also, I have bluetooth turned off.
2nd Edit: I ran another test last night and I'm surprised to report that there was no significant difference at full screen brightness versus my normal 35% brightness. I had Netflix playing for 3 hours at normal brightness followed by 3 hours at full brightness and the slope of the battery level curve is essentially the same. I'm at a lost to explain this as well as it's been my experience that screen brightness significantly affects power usage.
fwiw
My battery life seems okay but charging is very slow. I've never had so much trouble getting up to a full charge
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No, that is with Adaptive Motion Smoothness (120Hz) turned on.
I thought maybe my AOD was adding too much Screen On time, giving me a very misleading value, so in one of the tests I made i just played a few movies, and I still got hours and hours of battery life. I have no idea why there is such a variance.
Edit: So I thought of two things to mention. I run my screen brightness at about 35%. If you run yours much higher, that could effect your results significantly. If you use your phone outside a lot and it's set to automaticly adjust its brightness, that could set the screen brighness very high (for when you're outside). Also, I have bluetooth turned off.
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I use it outside about 2 hrs a day. That too usage. Only for changing the song. Nothing more . I use dual sim .listen to music atleast 1 hour a day via Bluetooth. Even then what you are getting is truly amazing.
mohansethu said:
I use it outside about 2 hrs a day. That too usage. Only for changing the song. Nothing more . I use dual sim .listen to music atleast 1 hour a day via Bluetooth. Even then what you are getting is truly amazing.
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I did some tests the other night and much to my surprise turning up the screen from my usual 35% to full didn't make much of a difference.
I'm in the habit of using the "Close all" function in the recent apps screen almost all the time. Maybe that makes a difference?
I'm trying all the scenarios to reach that level of battery life but I go out for atleast 3 hrs a day. So I use my phone in mobile data as well. That also contribute. Yeah closing all applications all the time prevent unnecessary background process. That may actually help in apps like Twitter and Instagram.
Here is the latest I have managed . I removed one of the sim and used carefully . This is the best I have managed so far. But again, I use it outdoors with mobile internet for atleast an hour of screen time. 3 hours of outdoor usage . I'm still not sure if it's a good battery life but I will take it.
As a new S21+ owner I can say that I have had great battery life so far consistently getting 7.5-8 sot. This is with the latest march update.
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Here is the latest I have managed . I removed one of the sim and used carefully . This is the best I have managed so far. But again, I use it outdoors with mobile internet for atleast an hour of screen time. 3 hours of outdoor usage . I'm still not sure if it's a good battery life but I will take it.
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Watch some YouTube videos on battery optimizations
My battery has been good so far exynos.
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I'm using the exynos variant. I bought the phone on 13th Feb. The battery life is really realty bad for a 4800mah device. I was getting a expecting a decent battery life. But I'm getting like 4.5hrs SOT for 10.5 hours usage which is like half of what snapdragon verison is giving. This sucks. Should have waited for op9pro. Made a huge mistake.!!View attachment 5223623
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Hi. Looking at your screenshot, it seems you are using an Indian variant. I do not want to get into specifics, but Indian networks are far more congested compared to other countries. So the modem has to work 4 times as hard compared to say the US. Also, dual sims nearly halve the standby time. So the usage you have is fine and I wouldnt worry too much about it.
Have anyone tried disable auto optimize app daily and disable adaptive battery.
Some say it really improve the battery on the previous samsung gen. I'm going to try it. And report to all of you guys.
Just came up to xda to search about anything related to battery and didn't find the solution yet.
Sometime I got a good battery like about 6 hours sot. The other day it just to bad only around 4 hours. It seems auto optimize overreacting to apps and make it closed and open daily causing a worst battery live. And the adaptive battery just seems not good at all in some report.
My best so far today, 10h of SoT doing mostly multimedia stuff. Exynos, 4G, 60Hz, April update. No power saving mode.
riyosakura said:
Have anyone tried disable auto optimize app daily and disable adaptive battery.
Some say it really improve the battery on the previous samsung gen. I'm going to try it. And report to all of you guys.
Just came up to xda to search about anything related to battery and didn't find the solution yet.
Sometime I got a good battery like about 6 hours sot. The other day it just to bad only around 4 hours. It seems auto optimize overreacting to apps and make it closed and open daily causing a worst battery live. And the adaptive battery just seems not good at all in some report.
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Im currently trying out power saving mode at 120hz . I will let you know if this works.