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Mugen 1500mAH

I am thinkin of pulling the trigger on this
http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...ery-for-for-htc-desire-hd-softbank-001ht.html

If you get it, let us know your results. Too bad it's backordered for a few weeks. Hopefully those positive reviews aren't fake. 1500 mAH might be impossible in such a thin battery but who knows.

Mugen batteries are known to under preform from their mAh claims. I would be wary a any battery that claims more power without needing a new battery door as the only way to substantially increase the mAh is to increase the size of the battery. There is also no stated dimensions on the page.
Until a company figures out that they can add to the length of the battery with a modified door we're not going to see numbers beyond 1300.
Edit: I think HTC may have something in the works. This is what I'd wait for. Sales of this phone are through the roof so it makes sense that they could do this and get a return on the investment.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13001874&postcount=139

Oh wow. This is awesome. I guess I'll sit tight to see what HTC has in the oven.

(Regarding a possible extended HTC battery) I'm more than pleased with my battery life, but this is awesome. I would definitely buy - right now I'm getting about 1.5 days out of my phone, if I could make it to two days and charge every other night/ insure a full day with HEAVY use I would be very verrrry happy.

How are you getting such life?
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churro7 said:
How are you getting such life?
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This is basically how I use my phone
-CM7
-Regular Use: Browsing internet is somewhat light, because I make good use out of the Pulse newsreader app. I'll check twitter/facebook a few times, make about an hour or so of phone calls per day, send about 15 texts, check xda a lot, and use audiogalaxy to stream my music library, and use runkeeper to track my runs when I'm running outside (when it is nice out) and I rarely run for less than an hour.
-2 Google Accounts, one of which is set to sync in the background (for gmail, calendar etc.)
-Auto Bright
-Wifi/GPS left on
-Social accounts syncing manually
I don't ALWAYS get 1.5 days. I get 1.5 days usually when my usage is somewhat light. I usually make the judgement call the night before if I need to charge or not. If I do charge after one day of pretty heavy use, the battery is almost always above 20% after a solid 24 hours.

Anyone else got HTC to tell this too?
It sounds like they just said that to get people off their back
anit77 said:
Mugen batteries are known to under preform from their mAh claims. I would be wary a any battery that claims more power without needing a new battery door as the only way to substantially increase the mAh is to increase the size of the battery. There is also no stated dimensions on the page.
Until a company figures out that they can add to the length of the battery with a modified door we're not going to see numbers beyond 1300.
Edit: I think HTC may have something in the works. This is what I'd wait for. Sales of this phone are through the roof so it makes sense that they could do this and get a return on the investment.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13001874&postcount=139
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has anyone here gotten one?

churro7 said:
Anyone else got HTC to tell this too?
It sounds like they just said that to get people off their back
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866-449-8358
Give them a call and see what they tell you.

Since no one posted I thought I'd give them a call and it turns out that churro7 might be right. I was told that HTC doesn't manufacture the batteries and was given a list of "Authorized" accessory stores online. She told me to check with them. So it sounds like the guy in the other thread was probably fed a line of ****.
The only thing HTC would make looks like it would be the new door. That's not to say they aren't contracting out the battery but I'd like to hear this from a credible source before I buy into it.
For the time being Sedio's 1300mAh looks like the only option.
Does anyone know of a battery that will fit but is longer? Obviously the contacts would have to line up right.
The dimensions are 52mm x 46mm x 5mm with the 46 being where we can go longer. The Thunderbolt's???
If I knew for sure one would fit I would order it along with getting HTC to send me a replacement battery door. Then I'd take the power tools to my original door to see if a little tweaking might make it work.

What about the mugen?
I'm getting better battery life than in my epic
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churro7 said:
What about the mugen?
I'm getting better battery life than in my epic
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I would rather buy another stock one than buy a Mugen.
Look at the results of other Mugen batteries here.

You think this one is the same as the others?
sent from planet snarf

Unless they are better able to utilize the internal space of the housing there is no way to extend the mAh capacity without also increasing the size of the housing. It would take new technology.
I'm not here to tell you how to spend your money. If you want to take a chance then by all means get yourself one. Then report your findings good or bad. That way others can make a more educated decision.

Don't waste your money.
Just Google Mugen batteries. You'll see plenty of negative feedback regarding their batteries.
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What about a lipo or nimh battery? Is our stock battery lipo?
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I see AA batteries ranging from 700mah to 2700mah in nicad or nimh form. How did they do it?
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http://www.dinodirect.com/htc-desire-hd-liion-battery-business-rechargeable-1500mah.html
Check that out cheap lol
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No decent battery so far for Ins4g, not worth the money for upgrade getting little improvement.

[Q] Extended battery live 2450mha

Anyone tried this one:
http://www.ebay.nl/itm/2450mAh-HIGH...663?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item53e9602c2f
sounds promissing...

100% fake.
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I've got one of these. However they are fake? The battery life from what I've seen is not too much more than the normal battery. I've got another which came with my dock and I don't see much difference between that which is 1600 and the "2400". Also I may not be the best person to comment on it as I change my rom so much I use a lot of power in different roms which use more or less power.
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It's not fake!
I have this battery about a month now and it's really great ok it's not sooo big but it lasts at least 2 days of full use,so obviously it's not fake it's really great and i think it worth to spend 10 bucks for it...

Please guys, be realistic.
How the hell should some unknown manufacturer put 2450 mAh of power in the same technology (Li-Ion) in the same size and shape in a battery with the same safety standards?
Based on basic chemistry knowledge that is pure bull****.
Even Mugen had problems pressing 1500 mAh in the same size and I'm sure they had to make the walls a little thinner (what is pretty risky) for that amount of energy-rich mass.
That is absolutely impossible and it is naive to think it is real.
It may be a halfway good replacement for the stock battery but it does never reach 2450 mAh. Never.

All of you guys who think the battery life is longer than stock may think as a placebo effect. As Dr. Lele said it's impossible to pack so much in so little size as of today's technology.

lol, the only battery that has better performance than the OEM one, is Mugen's.
They managed to squeeze 1500mAh into the battery.
I am planning to commercialise a 3000mAh Gold (etc) battery on ebay, with secret Chinese circuitry, for just €6 (no, not really)

what i've learnt about replacement batteries -> if it looks too good to be true, it DEFINITELY isn't true.

amusedkid said:
what i've learnt about replacement batteries -> if it looks too good to be true, it DEFINITELY isn't true.
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Very true. I think a lot of it is the placebo effect... I tend to on a morning go and get that "2450mah" battery instead of the stock HTC ones. Most the time I cycle through the batteries but if I have to choose, I choose that just because it may get a little bit better battery life.... But I'm also worried it's cheaply made and might leak or something inside the phone..

Fake
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To the vendor, If you are going to try to sell crap like this, at least make the claims more believable.
lol

It's hard to believe, that some unknown facturer could produce such a battery :l
BUT ON THE OTHER HAND; look at his feedback :/
not that bad...

I have tried it have it and not using it because is piece of crap. It was good on the beginning and than it stopped holding the charge... very short life time....crap
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over 2000mAh for less than 10 bucks? suuuuure....
oh wait...it's got a gold label! must be legit!!
Ive got a 1900mAh battery which is a good chunk bigger than the stock 1230mAh battery from htc and i won't ever believe that someone can produce such a "golden" battery out of thin air....

Unfortunately these batteries are likely going to only have 2 of the 3:
1. Upgraded capacity
2. Safety
3. Longevity
The only other option is a 3.8v chemistry battery, which is being used by Motorola, but it will likely not be fully charged by the phone.
Anyway, the stock battery gives 4.55 Whrs, a 3.8v version would give 4.67 Whrs. Which is to say, you're basically getting nothing extra.

Meh no trust gold battery...
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Scr!pt0 said:
It's hard to believe, that some unknown facturer could produce such a battery :l
BUT ON THE OTHER HAND; look at his feedback :/
not that bad...
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No, the answer is that it is physically impossible to produce such a battery. Please try again.

HTC: Thin smartphones are better than large battery

http://pocketnow.com/smartphone-news/htc-thinks-we-want-thin-phones-not-big-batteries-is-it-right
HTC made a statement that people want thin smartphones more than large batteries. Imo battery-life is much more important than the thickness of a smartphone.
What do you guys think?

wayne850 said:
http://pocketnow.com/smartphone-news/htc-thinks-we-want-thin-phones-not-big-batteries-is-it-right
HTC made a statement that people want thin smartphones more than large batteries. Imo battery-life is much more important than the thickness of a smartphone.
What do you guys think?
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double phone size and walk around with 3000-4000 mAh battery! **** yea!

For me too. I would prefer a longer battery life.
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motorola made a good step with the razr maxx. it's just about 2mm thicker and its battery is almost twice as large as the original razr (1780 ->3300mah)

I'd gladly trade a couple of mm and 10-15-20 grams weight to have a ~2500mAh battery in my One S!

Well, I think from what HTC had learned from customers, it could be a valid statement to say thin phones are better than large batteries from the sales point of view. The reason is simple, we want a phone which looks great even if the battery is not that ideal. Because when we take our phone out, it is the appearance which attracts us and others not the numbers presenting the battery capability, visual impression always stronger than spec sheet.
Just look at the MAO defect thread here, see how many people still stick with the black version even if there are well known problem/risk and they have to send the phone back several times to try their luck. (If I were that in love with black version, I would do the same) Does battery capacity annoy them? Compared to the MAO thing, not at all!!
So, I back HTC's statement only from the sales point of view. Of course a phone with both the same thinness and larger battery is better, but given the current technology constraints, you have to compromise one to another right? And I would happily go for thinness rather than 3000mAh.
Cheers!

h.han said:
Well, I think from what HTC had learned from customers, it could be a valid statement to say thin phones are better than large batteries from the sales point of view. The reason is simple, we want a phone which looks great even if the battery is not that ideal. Because when we take our phone out, it is the appearance which attracts us and others not the numbers presenting the battery capability, visual impression always stronger than spec sheet.
Just look at the MAO defect thread here, see how many people still stick with the black version even if there are well known problem/risk and they have to send the phone back several times to try their luck. (If I were that in love with black version, I would do the same) Does battery capacity annoy them? Compared to the MAO thing, not at all!!
So, I back HTC's statement only from the sales point of view. Of course a phone with both the same thinness and larger battery is better, but given the current technology constraints, you have to compromise one to another right? And I would happily go for thinness rather than 3000mAh.
Cheers!
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I got black because gray is slippery, Im clumsy already, dont need another affect helping to drop phone

well the One S is incredibly slim AND has great battery life...
So I say, Why not have both ???

azzledazzle said:
well the One S is incredibly slim AND has great battery life...
So I say, Why not have both ???
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It all depends on what u call "great battery life". I call "great battery life" when I have to charge my phone once a week. (happend to tattoo with larget battery).
S2 I call extremly bad battery, One S I call not that bad battery

1 week ?? holy ****...
the last phone i had that lasted a week was a nokia..
those old nokia will outlive us all

1 week is probably a little to enthusiastic, but 3 days would be ideally. Imagine that you are on a little trip in the woods with no access to electricity

virtq said:
1 week is probably a little to enthusiastic, but 3 days would be ideally. Imagine that you are on a little trip in the woods with no access to electricity
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Thats just what ppl want from phones At same time I understand it wont happen useless the technology changes to some super uber low power consume

All I need is my 14-16 hours of use. and thats pretty much what i get on most phones. i hate big batteries and oversized covers

I would rather have a thiner phone.
It's all about managing battery life.

I'd rather have a thin phone because that will impress my buddies.
They aren't going to know that I have 30 hours of battery life if it was a thick phone anyway. And even if they do, they probably won't jizz their pants.

wilcoholic said:
I'd rather have a thin phone because that will impress my buddies.
They aren't going to know that I have 30 hours of battery life if it was a thick phone anyway. And even if they do, they probably won't jizz their pants.
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So ur the person whos gonna buy Hummer, and stick in muds while "Smart" goes simply true there
Cmon, you really buy things just because they look good, or you need the oportunities it give? At this point - the possibility to use phone at all (no battery no phone).

Well, it seems we can have both. I would prefer a larger battery but if my One S gets the kind of battery life we've seen so far I will stop caring about how big the battery is. And like Adjust said, its all about battery management.

Thinner device of course!!
Around 8mm is the ideal size. As long as a battery lasts 12 hours throughout the day I'm fine with it.
It's all about having a sleek device that is eye catching and brilliant at the same time. Battery can be conserved through options, build design can not.

Why is everyone racing for a thin smatphone, I hope HTC reads all these comments because the majority of us would rather have a longer lasting battery
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Moto hits the point for both tastes so come on htc, start offering a thicker one s with more battery life/exchangeable battery (and maybe sd card slot?!).
So only the best for both worlds...

Zerolemon 10,000mah battery available for preorder

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Q7C6FTA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
they've released the new iteration of their super large capacity battery. I've owned one on my note 2 and note 3. I'm looking forward to the case as well, the one for the note 3 was lackluster.

xgm541 said:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Q7C6FTA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
they've released the new iteration of their super large capacity battery. I've owned one on my note 2 and note 3. I'm looking forward to the case as well, the one for the note 3 was lackluster.
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Did you see the size of the phone afterwards? OMG. Huge!

That should come with suspenders to hold your pants up once you pocket it.

I'm going to keep my eyes on this, and order some suspenders or a utility belt to go with it

60 dollars seems steep. You could get an external anker battery with 12k mah for like 20 bucks and you wouldn't sacrifice size...these batteries seemed worth back then but with the cheap availability of power banks they seem irrelevant now.
I'll still keep an eye out though because it would be pretty sweet.
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an UnNecessary expense!
Why would you need it on a higher technology device such as the Galaxy Note 4?.... I may want an external battery pack that's compatible with Qualcomm's Quick Charge 2.0 spec (Samsung's adaptive quick charge).
If I'm to spend $60.00 on a big heavy battery of a mediocre life warranty, I would rather my money spent on a battery I can use for other things such as to charge my Bluetooth Headphones
not to mention the case is an awful way to make an expensive $900 smartphone look as if you pulled it from a cereal box!
I'm using Battery Guru https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app
and my Battery life is PHENOMENAL!!! SO I WOULD THINK TWICE ON THIS EXPENSE?.. as the previous post of above said would be a smarter choice to get an external battery.

I will have to keep and eye out for this. I had one for my note 2, note 3 and s4. Use then all when I go on trips and am away from a charging station. This looks nice. Will have to see how this stacks up with the other brands and see if they sell them for a deal.

I had a Zerolemon for my S4, battery life was phenomenal with it! But it made the phone so huge and heavy, my arm ached when I talked on the phone for more than 10 minutes. I can only imagine how big the Note 4 will be with such a battery... and it's scary!!
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Already pre-ordered!

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Already pre-ordered!
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Hopefully it will come by day promised.
I bought from them last year for my Note 3 and it nearly missed x-mas, a good two weeks late!

Wow, that's going to make the phone almost an inch thick.

I have one of these. it's called a "Brick" in my front yard, hahahaaaa. j/k

Zerolemon won't listen to us, their facebook page is filled with people asking for a "slim version" that's like their Note 2 extended battery.

Galaxy-Shadow said:
an UnNecessary expense!
Why would you need it on a higher technology device such as the Galaxy Note 4?.... I may want an external battery pack that's compatible with Qualcomm's Quick Charge 2.0 spec (Samsung's adaptive quick charge).
If I'm to spend $60.00 on a big heavy battery of a mediocre life warranty, I would rather my money spent on a battery I can use for other things such as to charge my Bluetooth Headphones
not to mention the case is an awful way to make an expensive $900 smartphone look as if you pulled it from a cereal box!
I'm using Battery Guru https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xiam.snapdragon.app
and my Battery life is PHENOMENAL!!! SO I WOULD THINK TWICE ON THIS EXPENSE?.. as the previous post of above said would be a smarter choice to get an external battery.
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Everyone has their opinion. Some are surprisingly bold in their urging theirs on others.
Nobody really needs it. After all it already has a battery that works. It's simply a matter of preference.
Some would rather not have to bother with lugging around another external battery pack and it's charger and trying to find a way to leave it connected in their pocket or holster while they go about their busy day from place to place hoping they don't accidentally bend the connector over and possibly break the power port on their $900 smartphone that appears to have an insufficient battery life to carry it through the day even though it's "phenomenal".
Some of us don't concern ourselves about others' opinion as to it's looks, weight or bulk. Some of us only care about the device performing based on our particular needs / wants.
And some of us are VERY reluctant to run an app that demands such invasive permissions as
Identity - access to accounts
Location - Precise location (GPS and network-based)
Photos/Media/Files - modify or delete the contents of your USB storage
-test access to protected storage
in order to save battery life.
Why a battery saving app needs my serial #, google ad id#, precise location and ability to modify or delete the contents of my USB storage is concerning to me.
For those of us in that situation, no need to think twice about what fits our preference because the smarter choice for us is to go with what works best for us.
Some would advise that you'd be foolish to spend $900 on a phone when you could just as easily make calls and text from a dumb phone or that if you insist on a smart phone, it would be far more prudent and financially responsible to purchase a Note 2 or other smartphone on ebay or Craigslist for far less money. Yes, it's true, you could get something other than what you really want but you want what you want.
As for me, I love to hear about others ideas and findings, allowing me to make educated choices about either what I need or just simply want.
That's part of why I decided on the Anker 7800mah extended battery for my Galaxy S4 and the Zero Lemon universal rugged case that would accommodate any size extended battery. Yes, it was a brick but I didn't care 'cause I got the quality battery I wanted with a case that worked. I could also get a day and a half of moderate to heavy usage without having to plug in somewhere. I didn't have the inconvenience of either not having my phone with me as it lay somewhere else charging or carrying my external battery pack around to charge my phone, being very very cautious not to snag the cord and damage the power port on my expensive phone as I get my job done running service calls, up and down ladders, in and out of my van, with frequent need to talk to tech assistance for the product I was working on.
It also saved me the hassles mentioned above while on an overnight hikes where pack weight and unnecessary extra stuff is a consideration.
The best part though is it fit the bill for what I wanted. The "smarter choice" is subjective depending on your needs / wants. Even though for me the smarter choice is to keep my privacy rather than just hand it all over to app developers, and though I won't use it because of the invasive permissions, I appreciate you sharing about the Snapdragon app and your choices regarding charging. It allows me to see the pros and cons, and to learn about more of the multitude of things I am ignorant of to make an educated choice.
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iridaki said:
I had a Zerolemon for my S4, battery life was phenomenal with it! But it made the phone so huge and heavy, my arm ached when I talked on the phone for more than 10 minutes.
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airmaxx23 said:
Wow, that's going to make the phone almost an inch thick.
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Bluetooth is a wonderful thing. No need to hold a huge tablet up to your ear.

martuseich said:
Bluetooth is a wonderful thing. No need to hold a huge tablet up to your ear.
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I understand but even with BT you still need to carry the phone around with you, to each their own.

U even lift bro?

i pre ordered mine as well! i don't mind the bulky case because i work construction so it gives me a piece of mind if i drop it or something. and ive heard great things about these cases on the other note phones! cant wait!

Galaxy-Shadow said:
Why would you need it on a higher technology device such as the Galaxy Note 4?....
not to mention the case is an awful way to make an expensive $900 smartphone look as if you pulled it from a cereal box!
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martuseich said:
Some of us don't concern ourselves about others' opinion as to it's looks, weight or bulk. Some of us only care about the device performing based on our particular needs / wants.
For those of us in that situation, no need to think twice about what fits our preference because the smarter choice for us is to go with what works best for us.
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Jstunna said:
i don't mind the bulky case because i work construction so it gives me a piece of mind if i drop it or something.
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There ya go. Case in point.
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Jstunna said:
ive heard great things about these cases on the other note phones! cant wait!
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I bought the Zerolemon shockproof for my S4. It has served me well through many drops. That one looked a lot like an Otterbox to me. Only issue was the built in screen protector was very poor and sat above (not touching) the screen, so you had to press the protector down until it touched the screen to use the phone. I took it off (easy, just a little adhesive used to hold it in) and installed a Seidio tempered glass protector.
Hoping they offer the same case for universal fit with any extended battery. I'm looking forward to Anker's extended battery (in development). On the S4 they offered 7800mah vs. Zerolemon's 7500mah. I expect they may very well up the up the capacity vs. the Zerolemon again. Their warranty is 1 year and their customer service is outstanding.

Pros: it lasts very very long time, reduced shock holster
Cons: expensive, 1.5lbs heavy, huge appearance, wife hates it

Had a zerolemon on my note 3 and would NEVER buy another phone that didn't have a zerolemon extended battery and rugged case as an option! I HATE charging my phone every night because I hate the cord getting all tangled up with me while I am lying in bed trying to visit websites and watch netflix. I don't mind the extra weight or thickness because I prefer a heavier thicker phone so I know that I am actually holding something! It's all about choice and options people, you like a feather thin phone that's up to you but for me, give me a solid rugged case and a 10,000 mah battery and I am in seventh heaven!

So-called 'slim' extended batteries make me suspicious.....

For years now manufacturers have thought we prefer having dead but omg so thin phones instead of ones that actually make it through the day. I've always bought phones that had removable batteries so that I could buy extended batteries and turn my phone into a brick that allows me to charge it at night and use at will during the day. Most of these are oversized and require a special back cover. However, I see a lot of 'slim' extended batteries that can fit into your current phone without a bigger back. They're plentiful, and they're cheap. So why don't manufacturers just include an extended battery that is the same volume but more capacity?
I suspect that perhaps they're less safe? I recently had an extended battery start bulging inside my phone and pushed the screen up a little. I wouldn't have noticed if the screen hadn't started coming up. Scared me a little, we've all seen the pics of phones that have exploded in people's pockets.
Does anyone know more about this than me?

I dont know more about this than you?.??

YYing said:
I dont know more about this than you.
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wellokthen.....

They are only marketing duds ... the battery in the phone it is the same like the extender ones but be ready to catch fire because they land faulty compared to the one in the phone. Always check the manufacturer!

TaureanZen said:
They are only marketing duds ... the battery in the phone it is the same like the extender ones but be ready to catch fire because they land faulty compared to the one in the phone. Always check the manufacturer!
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I've never had an issue with the extra large extended batteries that require a special back. Those always give a huge boost to battery life.
The slim one that I put in my G3 D855, however, is definitely a dud. I'm on a Marshmallow ROM that shows the estimated electricity use per app, in mAh, which has made it really handy for calculating the capacity of the battery. Every time my calculation comes up at about 3000 mAh, the capacity of the stock battery.
So that's $15 American that I'll never see again....oh well. Guess you can't have your cake and eat it too. My next battery will be gigantic.

the slim battery was to cheap and the reason for bulging