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[Q] Questions about root methods (towelroot) and not "tripping" Knox

Just read some posts in the towelroot forum, and I had some questions - but first, a little about me:
I'm coming from an HTC Evo 4g LTE (Sprint) and I just switched to Ting (uses all Sprint towers & devices, just an a-la-carte payment plan as opposed to monthly)
Anywho, all this Knox business (and acquiring root for the S5) is new to me (but I am no newbie when it comes to root, just my first time owning a Samsung device.) I havent even had this phone for 24 hours yet.
Just wanted to know what build/kernel/Android version you were on when you attempted towelroot?
I am on Android 4.4.2 - Build: KOT49H.G900PVPU1AND2
I did not install the System OR Software Update that is in my notification list after activation. (Pretty much same rules were for the HTC Evo 4G LTE, it would update the bootloader to a version that was considered "unmoddable" at the time) and for that phone it was also called "S-OFF" (S stood for Security) - Im guessing Knox is somewhat similar...?
Also, what is the preferred root method for the G900P? I only know of towelroot and CF-Auto-Root (sp?) - I know Chainfire makes apps specifically for Samsung devices, but read an old post on another site that CF's method will "trip" Knox... is that still accurate?
Just wanted to be 100% confident in what I'm doing, before I attempt anything. (Again, I have a lot of experience in HTC devices; not so much with Samsung) :/
Any help regarding my device and acquiring root without "tripping" Knox is greatly appreciated!
Thanks in advance! - zmag

zmag said:
Just read some posts in the towelroot forum, and I had some questions - but first, a little about me:
I'm coming from an HTC Evo 4g LTE (Sprint) and I just switched to Ting (uses all Sprint towers & devices, just an a-la-carte payment plan as opposed to monthly)
Anywho, all this Knox business (and acquiring root for the S5) is new to me (but I am no newbie when it comes to root, just my first time owning a Samsung device.) I havent even had this phone for 24 hours yet.
Just wanted to know what build/kernel/Android version you were on when you attempted towelroot?
I am on Android 4.4.2 - Build: KOT49H.G900PVPU1AND2
I did not install the System OR Software Update that is in my notification list after activation. (Pretty much same rules were for the HTC Evo 4G LTE, it would update the bootloader to a version that was considered "unmoddable" at the time) and for that phone it was also called "S-OFF" (S stood for Security) - Im guessing Knox is somewhat similar...?
Also, what is the preferred root method for the G900P? I only know of towelroot and CF-Auto-Root (sp?) - I know Chainfire makes apps specifically for Samsung devices, but read an old post on another site that CF's method will "trip" Knox... is that still accurate?
Just wanted to be 100% confident in what I'm doing, before I attempt anything. (Again, I have a lot of experience in HTC devices; not so much with Samsung) :/
Any help regarding my device and acquiring root without "tripping" Knox is greatly appreciated!
Thanks in advance! - zmag
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Check out the root thread sticky in general section.
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CCallahan said:
Check out the root thread sticky in general section.
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To add to this I just purchased a S5 coming after an S1 and S3.
I am wondering if I have to worry about any updates on sprint locking me out. My S3 is on Verizon and luckily I rooted it before they came out with the update that locked it out. Can I go to the newest version that my phone wants to update me to without any fears of being locked out in the future?

JurKZ said:
To add to this I just purchased a S5 coming after an S1 and S3.
I am wondering if I have to worry about any updates on sprint locking me out. My S3 is on Verizon and luckily I rooted it before they came out with the update that locked it out. Can I go to the newest version that my phone wants to update me to without any fears of being locked out in the future?
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Currently for the Sprint 900P (not the 860 Sport) NE5 is the latest build and I have not heard of anything being patched to not allow root.
However, it is best practice to always wait on taking any new Sprint updates until the devs have time to look into it and make sure root is still possible. There is no way for anyone to know what Sprint/Samsung/Google will patch in future updates. It usually only takes the dev community about a day or so to confirm whether existing root methods will still work.

Z3v root

I just checked out the Verizon version. Not as old looking at people say. I've got an s4 now though. I want the phone but have to root to remove bloat and tether subscription check. Sony is generally quite free with unlocking boot loaders and such. Anyone know if big red made them lock it down?
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I too want to know. I am thinking about buying this or waiting for the Droid Turbo I am a crack flasher! Need root at very minimum...

I just got the Z3v and can confirm that the bootloader is indeed not unlockable.

I just want to root it and install xposed. Thoughts?

taylorinnov said:
I just want to root it and install xposed. Thoughts?
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That might be possible in a couple weeks / months

I may not even need root...
I'm trying to fnd a way to make a long volume press do next track/last track and use the camera button to pause/play music.
Anyone know of a non-root app that can do that?

Root happened on the Z2 with a LB. I'm sure it will with the Z3 and its variants, however the real issue is when the Z3 gets 5.0. Supposedly root on lollipop might be extremely difficult with a LB. http://www.xda-developers.com/android/android-l-lockdown/

I want to get this phone but no root can be a dealbreaker is anyone working on root currently?

Has anyone with the Z3v ever tried this:
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PS, its fake

dhoppy said:
Has anyone with the Z3v ever tried this:
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why dont you try it YOURSELF ?
You can't even download the app.

Because I don't have a Z3V.

I found this website that claims it found a way to root the device AND install android 5. But it is one of those websites where you have to do a survey to download the files....
MOD EDIT Link removed, because as you say, you have to complete surveys to complete the download which breaks XDA RULES @gregbradley
Someone give it a try and see how it goes. It won't work on my Mac

Framaroot is a free program and it had its own section on Xda, just search for it.
I do not beleive it can root the z3vPlus, there is only sony devices on the whole of their supported device list and they are older phones released before the latest patch was installed on the Z3 series.
Also, as for installing lollipop, Rom manager has never supported xperia devices.

So no root yet?

mistermojorizin said:
So no root yet?
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No root for the Z3v and the current method to root other Z3 varients is unlikely to work for the Z3v as it needs information that can only be got from a rooted device. The current method has only worked becuase some people rooted by unlocking the bootloader (A method that always works) and gathering the required information to enable the tool to work on locked bootloaders.
Since the Z3v bootloader is not unlockable there is no way to get that information, hence no root.

Still nothing? I really love this phone, but the lack of root and cases is making me regret getting this phone. Support for it is almost non-existent.

found this tweet..
https://twitter.com/srsroot/status/587901819633979392
tried the app and doesn't work for me anyone else care to try?

Verizon Xperia Z3v Root!
I was able to do this last night, and even though the post says I wonder about OTA will make me loose root.. well it didn't. But apparently I'm too new to post a link... hit me up in a private message if you need it.

Root achieved: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3100402

So from what I understand that srsroot is tool of work taken from other developers. So considering root was achieved, they could of put it in their tool and etc. From what I've read it does survive OTA although Lollipop is a whole new beast.

[Q&A] Temporary Root on the Verizon Note Edge

Q&A for Temporary Root on the Verizon Note Edge
Some developers prefer that questions remain separate from their main development thread to help keep things organized. Placing your question within this thread will increase its chances of being answered by a member of the community or by the developer.
Before posting, please use the forum search and read through the discussion thread for Temporary Root on the Verizon Note Edge. If you can't find an answer, post it here, being sure to give as much information as possible (firmware version, steps to reproduce, logcat if available) so that you can get help.
Thanks for understanding and for helping to keep XDA neat and tidy!

DV8 said:
Check out this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-att/general/supersu-please-t3110954
I tried it and got temporary root on my Verizon Note Edge. I know it is temporary but at least it is root.
I do not have the developer version btw..
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Was this done on KitKat or Lollipop?

TunaSoda said:
Was this done on KitKat or Lollipop?
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Kitkat is the only way for locked Samsung Note edges.

I wish I had read up on this phone first, not having root sucks, it's my damn phone. I'm not renting it or leasing so wtf. I also wish I had been learning this **** myself on all the other phones I had because there don't seem to be many people wit it or working on it. The s6 and edge variant were to close to coming out for this phone to really take off. I just liked this more than the s6's.

Service menu
Hi I am new to this forum but have been reading it for a while. Has anybody tried to enable hidden menus or service menu with the temporary root? Thank you, I will also try now.

Root Via stagefright
Hi all,
After a long time reading XDA forums I finally have an itch to post. Being thoroughly disappointed in the lock down of Verizon phones preventing root Ive heavily considered ditching Verizon and my UDP until Today!!
I've been reading up on the stagefright exploit and got to thinking how this could be used for good rather than bad. If this exploit allows the attacker to gain access to modify system files it would seem they have achieved root. Is it possible to use this exploit to get root to the Verizon customers with locked down phones?
Thanks in advance

I have done everything on every post telling me to downgrade from lollipop to 4.4.4 but no avail Downloaded firmware for my Verizon Variant at SamMobile, and both failed in Odin....What the powers that be do not tell you is that the exploit was patched in the lollipop update from 5.0.1 to 5.0.1 and it was pushed to most phones last month and some installed automatically and some deferred hut t he notifications kept coming and forced you to install at a certain point I deferred for 2 weeks and finally it installed ....So note to all other VZW edge users...The exploit they were using to gain root has been closed since the newest update....
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[Completed] Galaxy S4 5.0.1- No Root Methods?

so I've done tons of research and lots of people
including me are complaining because there
are no roots or root methods for the new i545vrugof1 update for the galaxy s4 Verzion. for people who didn't take the Ota update, there are ways to keep your root when you update to of1 but for people who didn't take Ota update without flashing a rooted stock rom (muniz post) , there is no hope. you can't downgrade or root your device and you have no choice but to wait for a root method to come out or a new update. so anyone who is making a root for this specific firmware, please do so and help us out. I'm begging you XDA DEVELOPERS please help us out. and remember to spread awareness #rootvrugof1
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amahi2001 said:
so I've done tons of research and lots of people
including me are complaining because there
are no roots or root methods for the new i545vrugof1 update for the galaxy s4 Verzion. for people who didn't take the Ota update, there are ways to keep your root when you update to of1 but for people who didn't take Ota update without flashing a rooted stock rom (muniz post) , there is no hope. you can't downgrade or root your device and you have no choice but to wait for a root method to come out or a new update. so anyone who is making a root for this specific firmware, please do so and help us out. I'm begging you XDA DEVELOPERS please help us out. and remember to spread awareness #rootvrugof1
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Hello and thank you for using XDA Assist.
Sorry to hear about your trouble but we cannot provide technical support nor can other members reply to your posts here on XDA Assist Fortunately, as you know, there is an XDA area dedicated to the Verizon Samsung Galaxy S4 at http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-verizon where you have already posted several times in the Q&A thread. That is the most likely place where members familiar with your device will be best able to guide you. Please be patient and give the experts plenty of time to respond since Verizon's locked bootloader makes some operations much more complicated than for other S4 variants.
Good luck!
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Is my Samsung S4 SGH I337 with 5.01 rootable?

My at&t phone was unlocked and rooted when I got it, but it was lacking the last 6 updates, including lollipop, so I unrooted it to bring it up to date (5.0.1). Now I want to root it again, but haven't found any viable way to do it so far.
I tried Framaroot Plus, but that was a bust, and I had to uninstall it or my phone would personally take me out!!
I have read about people going back to KitKat, and I'm beginning to think I may do that, providing I can find out how, or perhaps someone out there knows how to root this phone and can show me?? ~Thanks

Maury000 said:
My at&t phone was unlocked and rooted when I got it, but it was lacking the last 6 updates, including lollipop, so I unrooted it to bring it up to date (5.0.1). Now I want to root it again, but haven't found any viable way to do it so far.
I tried Framaroot Plus, but that was a bust, and I had to uninstall it or my phone would personally take me out!!
I have read about people going back to KitKat, and I'm beginning to think I may do that, providing I can find out how, or perhaps someone out there knows how to root this phone and can show me?? ~Thanks
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Go to GalaxyS4Root.com, Zedomax has the rooting methods for all the S4 models and all the builds they come with, if you don't see a method for yours then there probably isn't one.
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Droidriven said:
Go to GalaxyS4Root.com, Zedomax has the rooting methods for all the S4 models and all the builds they come with, if you don't see a method for yours then there probably isn't one.
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Thanks for the reference. Zedomax shows many ways to root the S4 back from 2013 and 2014, but I couldn't find one that would root the SGH-i337 5.0.1. BTW, I suppose I should have mentioned that I have a MAC. I've posted my question on his website. Meanwhile, is there anyone else out there who might be able to help?

Maury000 said:
Thanks for the reference. Zedomax shows many ways to root the S4 back from 2013 and 2014, but I couldn't find one that would root the SGH-i337 5.0.1. BTW, I suppose I should have mentioned that I have a MAC. I've posted my question on his website. Meanwhile, is there anyone else out there who might be able to help?
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I've looked this up before for other members but I don't recall finding anything that will root the 5.0.1 build for your model. You can look into whether or not your device is safe to downgrade to older stock firmware(one that is root able) and then root.
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Droidriven said:
I've looked this up before for other members but I don't recall finding anything that will root the 5.0.1 build for your model. You can look into whether or not your device is safe to downgrade to older stock firmware(one that is root able) and then root.
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Thanks again. That settles it; I'll downgrade. The only thing is that I have no idea how to find out whether my device is safe to downgrade to older stock firmware that is root able, Can you point me in the right direction?

Maury000 said:
Thanks again. That settles it; I'll downgrade. The only thing is that I have no idea how to find out whether my device is safe to downgrade to older stock firmware that is root able, Can you point me in the right direction?
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You would need to go to the i337 forum here at XDA and ask other members that have your device, if anyone can tell you, you'll find it there.
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Droidriven said:
You would need to go to the i337 forum here at XDA and ask other members that have your device, if anyone can tell you, you'll find it there.
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Finding my way around on this website is usually laborious and confusing. I did find out about "J0din3" for mac, but that was a bust and a great waste of time, because it's too old and now it's undownloadable. So I tried the latest Wine Bottler; it works with el Capitan OSX (what I'm using on the mac) and was able to get Odin to work. However, it's not recognizing my phone, otherwise, I'd be done by now. Have you ever worked with Wine? Can you tell me how I can get the Odin to recognize my phone? Did I do something out of sequence?
And a separate question for xda-dev at large: Why doesn't xda-dev eliminate all the outdated, old, and useless information that rattles around here like satellite debris and gets a lot of people off on the wrong foot?!

Maury000 said:
Finding my way around on this website is usually laborious and confusing. I did find out about "J0din3" for mac, but that was a bust and a great waste of time, because it's too old and now it's undownloadable. So I tried the latest Wine Bottler; it works with el Capitan OSX (what I'm using on the mac) and was able to get Odin to work. However, it's not recognizing my phone, otherwise, I'd be done by now. Have you ever worked with Wine? Can you tell me how I can get the Odin to recognize my phone? Did I do something out of sequence?
And a separate question for xda-dev at large: Why doesn't xda-dev eliminate all the outdated, old, and useless information that rattles around here like satellite debris and gets a lot of people off on the wrong foot?!
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Sorry, I won't be of any help with Mac and my knowledge of linux is less than rudimentary, never used Wine, I use windows when windows apps are needed.
The old stuff still has useful info that still applies I guess, I've never checked XDA-Dev out, I'm not that deep in it yet. I'm working in other areas. Try posting your issues with getting recognized in this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help