So I bought a moto g 16gb unlocked on ebay. It was case open, but practically unused, and it was £20 cheaper so I bought it. There was an issue with the SIM, it wouldn't even detect it so I thought the pins were broken. Took it in for repair, turns out the IMEI is blacklisted and phone most likely stolen, so my question is, is it possible to change the IMEI and still make it work? Or get the IMEI unlocked? Is there any workaround for this or am I permanently screwed with this phone?
You are screw imei. Tampering is highly illegal, except this was done over ebay which means PayPal was in play bring it up with them. You may get your cash back also check the disscription make sure it wasn't buried in their
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You are screw imei. Tampering is highly illegal, except this was done over ebay which means PayPal was in play bring it up with them. You may get your cash back also check the disscription make sure it wasn't buried in their
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Okay, well I'm about done with drama, I know this guy is a scammer, I had some arguments and he's a total scammer and I can't be bothered to mess with paypal legal team and whatnot. I was just wondering if there's an alternative way to get it fixed, guess not though. I might just give it to a relative as an ipod touch.
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Okay, well I'm about done with drama, I know this guy is a scammer, I had some arguments and he's a total scammer and I can't be bothered to mess with paypal legal team and whatnot. I was just wondering if there's an alternative way to get it fixed, guess not though. I might just give it to a relative as an ipod touch.
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Okay, well I'm about done wno ith drama, I know this guy is a scammer, I had some arguments and he's a total scammer and I can't be bothered to mess with paypal legal team and whatnot. I was just wondering if there's an alternative way to get it fixed, guess not though. I might just give it to a relative as an ipod touch.
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PayPal isn't that bad and is on your side just look into it
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if you got scammed they might help you out. might as well right?
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You'd be pretty pissed off if someone stole your Moto G, fixed the IMEI blacklist then was able to sell it... unless you stole it joking
Seriously though bring it up with Paypal.
Re-read the Ebay listing and make sure it is NOT listed ANYWHERE in the description about being blacklisted.
Then, as everyone is suggesting, at least bring it to the attention of PayPal and eBay.
A blacklisted phone by IMEI can't be recovered ever again, because [Corrections allowed] when somebody calls to it's carrier to block their stolen phone by IMEI, they block/blacklist it and that wouldn't be suposed to turn on, or at least that's what i've read weeks ago. That blacklist would make that not even another countries carrier SIM cards work on that phone. :/
Technically that Moto G is now an iPod Touch. :/
I don't know 'that' well those online shopping sites (ebay, mercadolibre, amazon, etc.) but you could be able to report or, (corrections) take legal actions against the user that sold you that.
Just saying.
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resell it
if you can't return it to the seller, or get a refund from PayPal/eBay, you better try to resell it to somewhere abroad
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if you can't return it to the seller, or get a refund from PayPal/eBay, you better try to resell it to somewhere abroad
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And be a dirty douche bag like the guys who sold him the phone??
That's pretty low man.
Unless in the description he states in huge writing right at the top "BLACKLISTED DEVICE", which is what the first guy should have done.
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And be a dirty douche bag like the guys who sold him the phone??
That's pretty low man.
Unless in the description he states in huge writing right at the top "BLACKLISTED DEVICE", which is what the first guy should have done.
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no. his device is blacklisted only in his country. users abroad can use it
Did not know that...
So if I were to purchase a device online that has been blacklisted in, say, Europe, I could use it here in North America?
I just thought the IMEI be blocked everywhere.
Blacklisting is available only in the UK afaik, besides you should get a refund from eBay/PP/Seller, it's quite easy.
Otherwise it can be used in any other country w/o a problem.
Also there is a way to unblock it if you got the original box. Probably the idiot sold it and then reported it stolen.
Some time ago I was looking for American iPhones but some were black listed and I've been told that you can't use them here in Europe
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Paypal protection is there for this sort of thing and is pretty easy to make a claim, why someone can't be bothered is a mystery indeed, unless there's more to this than has been told.
EBay Buyer Protection is a wondrous thing. Also for phones just go to swappa.com.
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yes there is a way.....
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Okay, well I'm about done with drama, I know this guy is a scammer, I had some arguments and he's a total scammer and I can't be bothered to mess with paypal legal team and whatnot. I was just wondering if there's an alternative way to get it fixed, guess not though. I might just give it to a relative as an ipod touch.
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there is a way but you wont find it here because there are some ppl that want to unblacklist their hard days work of stealing phones. I feel what you are going through and you need to serch google as there are plenty of sites offering the service.... I had one done over the web on a telus note 2 and worked flawlessly. and yes I got scammed too... on ebay.
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Hi all,
Long story short, I was tricked today to buy an infuse 4G telling me that everything was working perfectly. Had it shipped, and of course, it doesn't read any SIM card. I'm brand new to android, so I have no idea what's going on.
I tried calling AT&T customer support and of course they couldn't help. I finally found out that the build version is Infused v2.1.0 and the firmware is 2.3.3
I just read that Infused v.2.1.0 is a custom rom, so I'm wondering how I can go back to the stock version and see if I can get a SIM card to be read in this phone.
PLEASE if anyone can help, I would greatly appreciate it!!!
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Thanks. But I think I may have found an even worse problem.
Can someone take a look in the SIM tray and tell me how many pins there are? My BlackBerry has 4, and from the looks of it, it looks like this infuse has 3, but 1 of the pins is missing.
I wish I could take a clear picture of it, but it's near impossible to see. Can anyone with an infuse confirm what theirs looks like?
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Thanks. But I think I may have found an even worse problem.
Can someone take a look in the SIM tray and tell me how many pins there are? My BlackBerry has 4, and from the looks of it, it looks like this infuse has 3, but 1 of the pins is missing.
I wish I could take a clear picture of it, but it's near impossible to see. Can anyone with an infuse confirm what theirs looks like?
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They should be 6;(3 in front of another 3; Meaning: 3 slightly visible from the metal, and 3 under the metal cover that holds the SIM card on place)
If you bought it via ebay or for that matter anything with Paypal in the middle, you have 45 days from the purchase day to enter a dispute. If you pay cash to a guy you will never see... then your probably screwed... i have heard of "sim" adapters like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-2-1-GSM...764414?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3a69e5b2fe
that could "probably" fix that.... or probably not since the adapter also needs the full working pins.... anyways... i recommend (if payed via paypal) to enter a dispute provide full information and make sure the add didnt mentioned anything about " NOT WORKING Sim tray" because if the advertisement of the phone just SLIGHTLY mentioned its your problem... but if it was advertised as WORKING then your complain will proceed.
I hope you can solve it man.
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Thanks for the response. Met up locally and paid cash.
He left a picture of himself on the phone hahaha. Anything I can do with that? Selling shady material? I don't know what to do now! Cash is not king
Since you paid cash you don't have much in the way of recourse since you know about the guy, I assume.
You could pursue via small claims, check the local authorities, maybe this person is a known thief; but, I would let this be a lesson on verifying that something is fully functional before paying someone cash for anything. Sorry, I know it sucks. =-(
What I thought was, I'd become one of those deaf-mutes; or should I?
I've been hosed from a dude who sold me an atv that was a pile of shiz, so I know how you feel. Id contact him and see what he'll do for you, I'm sure he will tell you it was fine when he sold it, than id talk to the authorities, if all else fail than id have it repaired from samsung.
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Caveat emptor at it's finest right here.
In your first post, you said you had it shipped. Then, in another post, you said you met up locally and paid cash. So which was it?
Either way, hopefully you didn't pay too terribly much for the phone, since you can generally find it brand new for under $100.
The only real chance you have at a remedy here is to call the seller back and hope he has a heart, or that this was just some misunderstanding.
In our credit driven economy, I always find it suspicious when people demand cash. I'm sure you learned your lesson, and hopefully it wasn't too costly.
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Called him/been texting with him this morning saying "I already spent the money" lol. Long story short, it is what it is. I've sold this guy my iPhone before and so I asked for my iPhone back instead. Of course, that's been sold as well. Well I have my iphone imei on file, so could very well just report it as stolen since this guy is unwilling to comply. Don't really have many options.
Sorry if this is off, because I dont know if u can install a rom if the phone is locked. But if the phone is locked it will not read a sim card. And depending on the sim card itself. It will not read any prr paid sim except tmobile and only att if it is not a gophone sim card
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Called him/been texting with him this morning saying "I already spent the money" lol. Long story short, it is what it is. I've sold this guy my iPhone before and so I asked for my iPhone back instead. Of course, that's been sold as well. Well I have my iphone imei on file, so could very well just report it as stolen since this guy is unwilling to comply. Don't really have many options.
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real nice... file a false police report because you werent smart enough to check the sim before giving him the money.
I was at the gym yesterday and apparently I might have left it there by mistake, I went to the htc sense site to track it down but apparently they 'renovated it' and now you can't track it! Is there any way I can track it down after its lost (or stolen I guess)?
I downloaded Plan B but apparently it didn't install correctly or something because I didnt get any email yet (probably since there isn't any wifi where the phone is)
Quite a stupid move from htc to shut down such a good feature like that :/
Sorry for your loss, that really sucks dude. HTC did warn people they were going to remove that feature a couple of months ago. I rather liked it as well. The only other thing I can think of right now is, try having your service provider track it down using the phones gps. Sometimes it works. Good luck.
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Well Im gonna go to the police station tomorrow, they SHOULD be able to track it down, but I highly doubt their efficiency -.-'
Thanks mate : ) Also, from now onwards, I'm installing Prey on every device I own!
Uh the police won't find ****. Call your carrier and find out the insurance company if sprint or Verizon its asurion or similar. I hope ya got insurance I don't think $6 a month is bad.
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Vodafone doesn't track phones where I live, only the police do that. They are successful (sometimes) but not in my past cases haha.
Oh well, we'll see what'll happen.
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Well Im gonna go to the police station tomorrow, they SHOULD be able to track it down, but I highly doubt their efficiency -.-'
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Because the police have nothing better to do than to look for your LOST phone...smh.
Avast. 'Nuff said.
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Because the police have nothing better to do than to look for your LOST phone...smh.
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Really? By saying lost I was being polite. If I really just lost it at the gym it would be on the machine where I left it on, which it wasn't the next day. Whoever took it took off the sim card cos it wont dial and I had it charged an hour before gym so the battery should still be working.
So yes, still think its just 'lost'?
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Really? By saying lost I was being polite. If I really just lost it at the gym it would be on the machine where I left it on, which it wasn't the next day. Whoever took it took off the sim card cos it wont dial and I had it charged an hour before gym so the battery should still be working.
So yes, still think its just 'lost'?
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Umm...YES!
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I was at the gym yesterday and apparently I might have left it there by mistake
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You left it somewhere, someone picked it up, YOUR FAULT! It's not stolen and whoever has it would not be prosecuted for picking it up. Maybe you should pay more attention to your $500 piece of technical equipment. Only a truly entitled person would believe that the police should take time away from investigating murders, kidnappings, and assaults, to find their phone. Is your phone that important? Is this what you are telling us?
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Umm...YES!
You left it somewhere, someone picked it up, YOUR FAULT! It's not stolen and whoever has it would not be prosecuted for picking it up. Maybe you should pay more attention to your $500 piece of technical equipment. Only a truly entitled person would believe that the police should take time away from investigating murders, kidnappings, and assaults, to find their phone. Is your phone that important? Is this what you are telling us?
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Maybe he should pay more attention but you cannot say it is his fault somebody took it and didn't give it to the gyms reception or to the police. I would do so if I found something lost. In my opinion they should track it because stealing is a crime too, isn't it.
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So yes, still think its just 'lost'?
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It's not lost, you just don't know who has it.
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Maybe he should pay more attention but you cannot say it is his fault somebody took it and didn't give it to the gyms reception or to the police. I would do so if I found something lost. In my opinion they should track it because stealing is a crime too, isn't it.
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Thank god someone with an open mind found this thread :f
Anyway, there aint much to do for now I guess. Thanks guys
Maybe you're lucky. As I heard HTC maintainances the HTC Sense website at the moment. But if the thief is smart enough he knows he could easyly reset the phone and you cannot track it anymore. Did you write to the support about your problem?
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Maybe you're lucky. As I heard HTC maintainances the HTC Sense website at the moment. But if the thief is smart enough he knows he could easyly reset the phone and you cannot track it anymore. Did you write to the support about your problem?
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Indeed I did, well I had a custom rom so maybe he'd find it difficult due to the different drivers that might not be compatible with what he's used to. Also, I contacted support and they said the phone can be 'locked' if I give them the IMEI and Serial Number, which I did. lets see what will happen!
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Indeed I did, well I had a custom rom so maybe he'd find it difficult due to the different drivers that might not be compatible with what he's used to. Also, I contacted support and they said the phone can be 'locked' if I give them the IMEI and Serial Number, which I did. lets see what will happen!
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Wouldn't the phone just be locked out? I'm also curious... if it was used in a different country/provider, would it work? I would assume it'd work since the chances of your provider blocking the IMEI in the entire earth would be unlikely! If so, the answers seem pretty straightforward as to what will happen lol. Either it'll get sold or just not be usable!
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Wouldn't the phone just be locked out? I'm also curious... if it was used in a different country/provider, would it work? I would assume it'd work since the chances of your provider blocking the IMEI in the entire earth would be unlikely! If so, the answers seem pretty straightforward as to what will happen lol. Either it'll get sold or just not be usable!
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Nono HTC told me they will block the phone themselves, so apparently it should be unusable worldwide I hope!
If it is in the wrong hands then it has probably been torn down and used for parts at this point. It's become a growing trend around here with lots of aftermarket repair companies getting busted for being nothing more than chop shops...
Well, here's what they said after giving them my IMEI number
"Dear sir again, we are really sorry for what happened with your device and we apologize for the inconvenience regarding HTCSense functionality. We will enter your data in our system, and we will list your device as stolen one. As soon as somebody tries to contact us with this data we will notify the authorities.
Thank you for your patience and understanding. "
Long story short.. I sold a phone on eBay with the original box. However, the phone was replaced twice due to sleep death issues. So it turns out that the phone I had sold IMEI number was different then that of the original sticker on the box. This is normal as when you replace a phone, they don't send you a whole new box, they just give you a new phone.
So my question is.. why would a buyer make a big deal about the box's IMEI number not matching the phone's IMEI number? I can only think that he's trying to re-sell it somehow to make a profit, but can't because the numbers don't match.
His reason is "because customs won't allow phones into Europe without the original box with IMEI numbers matching". Riiiiiiight
Anyone care to speculate? Thanks.
So basically, the buyer is saying customs will take apart the packaging to check the IMEI, and take the phone out to check the IMEI on the back of it? Plus, what about phones that weren't shipped with their original boxes?
The buyer is obviously lying/bsing.
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So basically, the buyer is saying customs will take apart the packaging to check the IMEI, and take the phone out to check the IMEI on the back of it? Plus, what about phones that weren't shipped with their original boxes?
The buyer is obviously lying/bsing.
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Exactly. He said he was speaking with the airport and they would charge $30-$40 dollars to get some "copies" of proof of ownership so he wants to be compensated for this in a partial refund. When I asked him for the number to this airport so I could verify this obvious bs story myself.. he all of a sudden had to ask his friend for the number and would get back to me. And still hasn't 5 hours later.
Obviously, he's trying to do something dodgy here and wants to be compensated $30-40 for something that he screwed up on by not making sure the IMEI numbers match beforehand. I just can't figure out what.
if i were the buyer, and all that's true, i'd be saying to myself, 'dang i guess i shoulda checked on this intl shipping stuff first..."
just my own thoughts on the matter though...
i wouldnt expect every seller, especially a person, selling his own phone to know every countries or airports shipping procedures...
Since you said Ebay: I take it this is outside the return period (if you had one/stated no returns). Assuming the buyer is reputable himself: I'd ask for documented proof. Paypal would require this as well so you're just saying him the time before Paypal asks him the same thing. Cause yeah: this is sketchy.
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if i were the buyer, and all that's true, i'd be saying to myself, 'dang i guess i shoulda checked on this intl shipping stuff first..."
just my own thoughts on the matter though...
i wouldnt expect every seller, especially a person, selling his own phone to know every countries or airports shipping procedures...
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Very true, although I don't claim to be an expert on such matters.. from what I understand.. customs doesn't actually open and physically inspect packages unless there's something really abnormal/illegal looking on the package. Imagine if customs actually physically inspected every single package that went through Europe on a daily basis. Not at all plausible.
But that really doesn't even matter in this case as he stated that he, himself, was going to Europe with the phone which made this all so much more bs-worthy.
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Since you said Ebay: I take it this is outside the return period (if you had one/stated no returns). Assuming the buyer is reputable himself: I'd ask for documented proof. Paypal would require this as well so you're just saying him the time before Paypal asks him the same thing. Cause yeah: this is sketchy.
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I did state no returns and yeah I was going to ask him for proof.. but I figured it would be needed anyway if he files a dispute, so I just left that be. I just told him that I'm sorry he didn't verify this all before purchasing as if it was that critical to the sale, he should have made sure before purchasing. I also told him that I could not help any further as the phone works exactly as it should and his only problem is mis-matched IMEI numbers. Definitely sketchy.
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Very true, although I don't claim to be an expert on such matters.. from what I understand.. customs doesn't actually open and physically inspect packages unless there's something really abnormal/illegal looking on the package. Imagine if customs actually physically inspected every single package that went through Europe on a daily basis. Not at all plausible.
But that really doesn't even matter in this case as he stated that he, himself, was going to Europe with the phone which made this all so much more bs-worthy.
I did state no returns and yeah I was going to ask him for proof.. but I figured it would be needed anyway if he files a dispute, so I just left that be. I just told him that I'm sorry he didn't verify this all before purchasing as if it was that critical to the sale, he should have made sure before purchasing. I also told him that I could not help any further as the phone works exactly as it should and his only problem is mis-matched IMEI numbers. Definitely sketchy.
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this was a US to US transaction? i thought you shipped overseas... he doesn't have a leg to stand on... no part of your transaction said anything about what you do with it afterwards... or i warranty this, yada yada... it was no returns... i would imagine your sale outlined the phone in its condition... like you said, he should've inquired about that... he's taking it with him??? tell him throw the [email protected] box away....
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i would tell him throw the [email protected] box away....
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Hahaha.. exactly my thoughts. XD And yes, US to US transaction. Then all of a sudden 2 weeks later he needs the original box to match the phone so he can bring it to Europe with him as a gift. Smh. People will make anything up when they screw up instead of just admitting they made a mistake. Oh well heh.
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Unfortunately, eBay and PayPal always side with the buyer. Even if there is a stated "no returns" policy. To make everything supposedly even, they will tell him to ship it back to you, and you will have to refund the original price plus original shipping. You will both be out a little bit. Due to you already paying once for shipping, and him for having to pay to send it back.
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Did you get any receipts or paperwork for the replacements. This may be enough if you can send him those as proof.
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Unfortunately, eBay and PayPal always side with the buyer. Even if there is a stated "no returns" policy. To make everything supposedly even, they will tell him to ship it back to you, and you will have to refund the original price plus original shipping. You will both be out a little bit. Due to you already paying once for shipping, and him for having to pay to send it back.
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People have gotten around this. All the buyer has to do is do a chargeback on their CC. Dirty business.
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If I buy an unlocked Nexus 5 from someone on craigslist. (The person bought it directly from google. Im gonna use this phone on Tmobile.) Is there anyway he can later report it lost or stolen and I get stuck with a blacklisted imei phone that i cannot use?
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Absolutely is. It happens all the time.
Edit, if you go thru with the purchase I'd meet at the t-mobile store and have them transfer the emei to you and your account. If the seller is not willing to do that then you'll know what his or her intentions are.
Take a photo of him handing you the phone.
its unopened... if that makes a diference
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its unopened... if that makes a diference
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Doesn't make any difference
so I went ahead and bought it...took a pic of his license ..
And?? What do u think u can do with that pic?
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so I went ahead and bought it...took a pic of his license ..
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I strongly suggest that next time, just buy it off the carrier or an official store like BestBuy. You may not be scammed now but you never know what will happen the next time.
Also Nexus 5 is already unlocked...
I bought my N5 off someone from Craigslist without any issues, I have also bought many phones off Craigslist. Just meet at a cell store of your choice and before you purchase make sure it can be activated on your account.
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I bought my N5 off someone from Craigslist without any issues, I have also bought many phones off Craigslist. Just meet at a cell store of your choice and before you purchase make sure it can be activated on your account.
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I believe even if u meet at a store to check if it can be activate it without any issues, they can report it lost at a later time and get it blacklisted anyways.
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And?? What do u think u can do with that pic?
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What you can do with it is file a claim for fraud with local authorities. With email traffic, and a picture of the person's government issued identification, it is a cut and dry case. Just the fear of a case will keep most people honest to their deal.
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I believe even if u meet at a store to check if it can be activate it without any issues, they can report it lost at a later time and get it blacklisted anyways.
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If you immediately activate that phone on your account then that phone is now yours (pretty sure that is the case), I do not think anything after that point can affect your phone. This has been my experience on Sprint, I am not sure on other carriers.
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If you immediately activate that phone on your account then that phone is now yours (pretty sure that is the case), I do not think anything after that point can affect your phone. This has been my experience on Sprint, I am not sure on other carriers.
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Sprint CDMA is different. On sprint all I had to do was make sure that phone wasn't tide to an account and like u said activate on ura and ur good to go. But gsm is different since all u do is put in the sim
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What you can do with it is file a claim for fraud with local authorities. With email traffic, and a picture of the person's government issued identification, it is a cut and dry case. Just the fear of a case will keep most people honest to their deal.
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No. This is why I suggested a picture of him handing the phone over. That is more security. A picture of the licence plate proves nothing except identity (if that) and certainly does not prove the op didn't steal the phone
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No. This is why I suggested a picture of him handing the phone over. That is more security. A picture of the licence plate proves nothing except identity (if that) and certainly does not prove the op didn't steal the phone
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Hmm..maybe a little bit of misunderstanding due to the geographical differences. When you say license in the USA, you are talking about a drivers license. He took a picture of his identification with his name and address on it. Having a name, address, email traffic discussing the transaction, and the phone in question would be more than enough evidence to charge someone with fraud.
Ok, then what? Dont be naive. If Sprint or Tmobile does not believe you that you bought that phone, you gonna hire a lawyer and pay thousands of dollars to prove that you have bought it? You really are in mercy of the phone representative you get on the phone. I've bought tons of phones on Craigslist and resold them on Ebay. If Craigslist seller wants to screw you, nothing will help you out, because its a cash transaction.. Even if you have clear evidence on your hands police wont do ****, simply because its not worth wasting their resources for one phone.
But yes, if he let you make the picture of his license, then most likely he wont try to report it lost/stolen. But then again, if he got it from Tmobile for $50 and did not pay the bill, Tmobile will block the phone, like Sprint and Verizon always have done and you still can be screwed even if the phone is not stolen.
Two weeks old on CL said he would do $325 only includes phone..no charger, box or anything. Would you guys take it? I'm trying to decide my sprint contract is up Feb 1 and i was interested in this phone and switching to T Mobile
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Two weeks old on CL said he would do $325 only includes phone..no charger, box or anything. Would you guys take it? I'm trying to decide my sprint contract is up Feb 1 and i was interested in this phone and switching to T Mobile
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Sounds sketchy...
He was asking $375 but said it was negotiable because it didn't include anything but the phone. Would it be recommended to use any micro usb charger or is there one specifically built for this phone?
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rickyb316 said:
He was asking $375 but said it was negotiable because it didn't include anything but the phone. Would it be recommended to use any micro usb charger or is there one specifically built for this phone?
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Why not box or charger? Because it's probably stolen.
BirchBarlow said:
Why not box or charger? Because it's probably stolen.
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i can only agree with fellow XDA member.
if you buy new device (high end) you will defon keep the box... maybe the charger can kinda get lost (in work, school, or something) but defo not the box... and the price he is sellling it at is not a "steal"... so save few more bucks bro and get your hands on brand new boxed nexie.
take care...
My friend just bought a Black 32GB just the phone and cable, no box or charger, for 300$ of CL here in the Seattle area, he just made sure he checked the IMEI using Swappa.com (they have a free IMEI/ESN checker, be careful with other sites that claim to check IMEI/ESN's for you, cause some of those are just phishing for these numbers, and once you put them in, they will tell you its ok, but then copy the number themselves and use it for cloning devices, or for changing the IMEI on a blacklisted phone, to the white-listed IMEI you gave them. Also once you use a legit IMEI checker, call your service provider and tell them you are purchasing this right now and have the dude talk to them to verify this, you could also call whatever provider he was using, if any, so that way there's record of him selling. or you could just meet at one of your service providers stores. If they aren't willing to do that, and are absolutely set on not meeting there, then yea, somethings up. But I would at least try the approach I suggested cause you may end up getting a very good deal, and if not, then you didn't lose anything cause you took steps to ensure your protection, so no harm no foul.
AND NEVER GO ALONE ! Guy or Girl. I am 27, 6'3", ex-military, and a Guitarist who is well known in the local scene so most people in the area know me, but I still don't do CL deals by myself. I even have my CHL and carry either a Glock 19 Gen 2, or a FNH FNP Tactical .45 (not always, but sometimes, I am an opencarry adovacate, but i wont get into that here lol), and still dont go alone, can't stress that one enough. a dear friend of mine was raped in Tacoma, WA while trying to buy a crib for her daughter and i wish everyday that she woulda called me or one of our friends to go with...
The final bit of advice I can give, is trust your gut. Sounds cliche, but its true. If you feel like somethings off, it prolly is, and even if it isn't, is your life, or overall well-being, worth getting less then 100$ off on a phone, ya dig.
Not sure I agree with the people who say if you don't have a box, its probably stolen. I sold a phone without a box because when I bought it, the person at the t-mobile store told me that I would get a $10 bill credit if I let them recycle the box. Sounded sketchy to me, but I did actually get the credit.
And running the IMEI through swaapa just proves that it hasn't been marked as stolen YET. The seller could stop paying payments (if they have tmo) and the IMEI gets blacklisted then.
Silicon Knight said:
My friend just bought a Black 32GB just the phone and cable, no box or charger, for 300$ of CL here in the Seattle area, he just made sure he checked the IMEI using Swappa.com (they have a free IMEI/ESN checker, be careful with other sites that claim to check IMEI/ESN's for you, cause some of those are just phishing for these numbers, and once you put them in, they will tell you its ok, but then copy the number themselves and use it for cloning devices, or for changing the IMEI on a blacklisted phone, to the white-listed IMEI you gave them. Also once you use a legit IMEI checker, call your service provider and tell them you are purchasing this right now and have the dude talk to them to verify this, you could also call whatever provider he was using, if any, so that way there's record of him selling. or you could just meet at one of your service providers stores. If they aren't willing to do that, and are absolutely set on not meeting there, then yea, somethings up. But I would at least try the approach I suggested cause you may end up getting a very good deal, and if not, then you didn't lose anything cause you took steps to ensure your protection, so no harm no foul.
AND NEVER GO ALONE ! Guy or Girl. I am 27, 6'3", ex-military, and a Guitarist who is well known in the local scene so most people in the area know me, but I still don't do CL deals by myself. I even have my CHL and carry either a Glock 19 Gen 2, or a FNH FNP Tactical .45 (not always, but sometimes, I am an opencarry adovacate, but i wont get into that here lol), and still dont go alone, can't stress that one enough. a dear friend of mine was raped in Tacoma, WA while trying to buy a crib for her daughter and i wish everyday that she woulda called me or one of our friends to go with...
The final bit of advice I can give, is trust your gut. Sounds cliche, but its true. If you feel like somethings off, it prolly is, and even if it isn't, is your life, or overall well-being, worth getting less then 100$ off on a phone, ya dig.
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OP and you can bring me ill get him to punch me (self defense) then ill beat his ass and take my iPhone crack it first then smack him on the face making sure the glass shards cut every damn thing!
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OP and you can bring me ill get him to punch me (self defense) then ill beat his ass and take my iPhone crack it first then smack him on the face making sure the glass shards cut every damn thing!
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wow, I totally change my stance. Forget everything i said (minus the part about IMEI/ESN checkers) and just bring this dude, he's like some crazy iphone wielding ninja. You can't lose with him watching ur back, they will be so scared, they'll prolly just give you the phone and free service for a year lol
Hunteres said:
i can only agree with fellow XDA member.
if you buy new device (high end) you will defon keep the box... maybe the charger can kinda get lost (in work, school, or something) but defo not the box... and the price he is sellling it at is not a "steal"... so save few more bucks bro and get your hands on brand new boxed nexie.
take care...
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Actually it probably is a steal. Get it? :laugh::good:
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Actually it probably is a steal. Get it? :laugh::good:
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:rimshot:
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Not worth
No go people. It's not about being stolen, I've had my phone stolen before and I needed to send my box and service agreement into Asurion. It could be that he has the box and may sell it but then report it stolen after the fact. I've done business on craigslist plenty of times and actually learned this the hard way about a year ago when I bought a Nexus 4 blacklisted from T-Mobile about 3 days after I bought it and was working. Always get the box with the IMEI sticker still attached when buying phones on craigslist, in most cases your better off than not.
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