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Hey guys I was wondering if the camera on the phone is made out of gorilla glass as well? Cause im thinking of switching to a fourth case if the asnwer is that it is not. Has anyone experienced any scratches on the lens so far?
No... Why would it be?
to protect the lens inside, and also so it wont be scratched. DUUUH lol. But I have no clue if it really is.
its not. the only phone that i know of that does have it is a nokia because of its 12 megapixel shooter.
Nope, sadly it is not even glass, it is plastic!
I had mine in my pocket for ONE day and started seeing little scratches.
I was going to call SAMSUNG and ask what it was made of but if you take something (a coin?) and GENTLY tap on it you can tell that it is plastic.
I imagine one could purchase a tiny little pane of glass somewhere and mod this... if mine gets many more scratches I might give it a try!
Thanks for letting me know! Just gotta remember not to put my keys in the pocket with my phone haha. THis camera is pretty good to have scratches on it.
Yep its daaam goood!
Ive had my camera "protected" for a few weeks giving it a nice cleaning and then applying a little fragment of that plastic sheets that screen protectors are made from(basicly i just bought a random transparent screen protector and cut off a piece to match the camera).
Since i always have the phone and a bunch of keys and coins on the same pocket i decided to give it a try xD seems to work not a single scratch on the plastic.
Even tho... Maybe the camera plastic alone was doing a good job protecting the camera i like to think.it has double protection... Haha
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koriotto said:
Yep its daaam goood!
Ive had my camera "protected" for a few weeks giving it a nice cleaning and then applying a little fragment of that plastic sheets that screen protectors are made from(basicly i just bought a random transparent screen protector and cut off a piece to match the camera).
Since i always have the phone and a bunch of keys and coins on the same pocket i decided to give it a try xD seems to work not a single scratch on the plastic.
Even tho... Maybe the camera plastic alone was doing a good job protecting the camera i like to think.it has double protection... Haha
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Does it decrease picture quality? I might just try this!
Not likely - Gorilla Glass probably has optical qualities that make it inferior for a photographic lens.
Scratch-resistant lens coatings do exist (such as Pentax Super Protect coatings) but it would be unlikely to see these in a phone camera.
Sarius24 said:
Does it decrease picture quality? I might just try this!
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No it doesnt change the quality if the cleaning before putting the cover sheet was wel done...
yet it sometimes comes.off while getting the phone in and out of the pocket.. Im wondering if its actually useful xD yet i wanted to give it a try hahah
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No....my camera lens is already badly scratched....
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SSJ_Gomike said:
No....my camera lens is already badly scratched....
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This makes me worry D:
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This makes me worry D:
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Yup.... Luckily for me there is a lot of glass over the lens and the scratch is just below it so it doesn't affect my taking of pictures...
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Should this be removed it's not affecting shots. But I have a feeling its affecting the heart rate sensor.
I'm leaving mine on.... Both work for me.
I removed the one over flash, the adhesive and heat it becomes sticky. The one over the camera no problem, up to you.
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jambo89liam said:
Should this be removed it's not affecting shots. But I have a feeling its affecting the heart rate sensor.
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I'd recommend you take them off for best performance. Especially for the camera. Another layer of film over the glass will degrade image quality. Also, dust, humidity causing a foggy lens etc, can accumulate around and under the outer layer. That protective plastic is only there for during shipping to protect it so it's in perfect condition when you unbox it. It's not meant to stay on. You will get more hazy, less clear images with that outer plastic layer over the lens. EDIT *Also, that outer layer of plastic will give you more risk of lens flare.
Now, over the heart rate sensor? That's up to you. I'm not certain it if would affect the sensor reading. Since I don't use it, I wouldn't mind leaving it on. But it's such a small surface area to begin with, it would be hard to break. But personally, I want optimal image quality, so that plastic layer comes off for me. Much like I don't use protective UV filters over my DSLR camera lenses. :good:
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I'd recommend you take them off for best performance. Especially for the camera. Another layer of film over the glass will degrade image quality. Also, dust, humidity causing a foggy lens etc, can accumulate around and under the outer layer. That protective plastic is only there for during shipping to protect it so it's in perfect condition when you unbox it. It's not meant to stay on. You will get more hazy, less clear images with that outer plastic layer over the lens. EDIT *Also, that outer layer of plastic will give you more risk of lens flare.
Now, over the heart rate sensor? That's up to you. I'm not certain it if would affect the sensor reading. Since I don't use it, I wouldn't mind leaving it on. But it's such a small surface area to begin with, it would be hard to break. But personally, I want optimal image quality, so that plastic layer comes off for me. Much like I don't use protective UV filters over my DSLR camera lenses. :good:
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I agree (except for the part about UV filters on a DSLR, but that's another subject). It is crappy plastic that they use on the sticker and in no way meant to be used as a protective layer for camera shots.
Great answers my next question, any tips on getting them off I can't get a finger nail under to peel it.
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jambo89liam said:
Great answers my next question, any tips on getting them off I can't get a finger nail under to peel it.
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Ha, had the same problem. Keep trying with your finger nail. You'll eventually get it. Best not to use anything else that could risk scratching it such as a needle, tweezers, filer etc. Just keep at it with your nail. :fingers-crossed:
I'd remove the one on the heartrate sensor but you can keep the one on the camera as the camera lens itself is not covered by it!
It has a hole where the lens is.
So image quality does not suffer!
I actually removed both but as I found out the one on the camera actually has a hole for the lens I carefully placed it back on there.
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the camera as the camera lens itself is not covered by it!
It has a hole where the lens is.
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Your totally right just ran my nail over it, the lens itself it not covered.
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whitepaw said:
I'd remove the one on the heartrate sensor but you can keep the one on the camera as the camera lens itself is not covered by it!
It has a hole where the lens is.
So image quality does not suffer!
I actually removed both but as I found out the one on the camera actually has a hole for the lens I carefully placed it back on there.
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Both my wife's S6 and my S6 had no hole. We have T-Mobile variants. Hmmm, very interesting.
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Both my wife's S6 and my S6 had no hole. We have T-Mobile variants. Hmmm, very interesting.
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I have a T-Mobile Germany one which has the hole. It's only covering the glass around the lens here.
It's the edge here. Maybe it differs between edge and normal S6?
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I have a T-Mobile Germany one which has the hole. It's only covering the glass around the lens here.
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I should have mentioned U.S. T-Mobile versions in my last post. I could have very well quickly taken them off and not realize there was a hole....and now thinking back I just don't remember.
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I should have mentioned U.S. T-Mobile versions in my last post. I could have very well quickly taken them off and not realize there was a hole....and now thinking back I just don't remember.
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Have tmobile us version and has hole.
To take those pieces off, use a piece of tape over and peel off.
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Bloody hell I scratched the glass aa bbit over the bottom sensor below the flash. What is that sensor for and will it be affected?
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Bloody hell I scratched the glass aa bbit over the bottom sensor below the flash. What is that sensor for and will it be affected?
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Heart rate, and probably not unless the scratch is huge.
sticky tape works best when I removed mine
Took phone out case today to just kinda clean off and noticed that the camera flash lens had a ton of scratches on it,anyone else notice or have this problem?any does anyone know if it's even made out of glass,wouldn't think glass would scratch that easily, my phone been in case and use holster since I got it.
Never got one scratch on my lense, must be a defective lense cover. I have mine in an otterbox and it's fine.
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Just to clarify,referring to lens for flash and heart rate sensor.
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Just to clarify,referring to lens for flash and heart rate sensor.
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Yep, neither my camera lens or flash/heart rate monitor get scratched from my case, should be a defect
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Thanks,just spoke with someone who repairs them,they said the HR sensor lens is made of plastic,just a heads up.
I probably did it from wiping it clean today..smh.
A scratch has 0 effect on either the flash or HR that's probably why they opted for cheaper plastic than Gorilla glass like everywhere else covering essential components like the screen and camera lens.
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A scratch has 0 effect on either the flash or HR that's probably why they opted for cheaper plastic than Gorilla glass like everywhere else covering essential components like the screen and camera lens.
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Yea I know,it just sucks that it scratches so easily,looking at it in light it really looks like my wiping with shirt scratch it,tons of scratches
Just figured I share
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Just figured I share
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My note 5 had a clear plastic film over the lens and flash that did scratch easily.
Looking at your photos I think yours might to - look at it closely and I think you will see the edge of the film.
Try to carefully remove it using the corner of a credit card or similar plastic item.
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My note 5 had a clear plastic film over the lens and flash that did scratch easily.
Looking at your photos I think yours might to - look at it closely and I think you will see the edge of the film.
Try to carefully remove it using the corner of a credit card or similar plastic item.
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Unfortunately I took that plastic film off the same day I got it.. thanks tho..
Did anyone notice that, unlike the GS6 and other Galaxies before it, the S7 and S7 Edge don't have the plastic film that covers both the camera and heart sensor lenses when you first got it? Some people take them off when they got the phone, but I left it on there on my GS6 to protect the camera lense from scratches.
Just wanted to know whether someone has noticed this on their phones as well?
U are anyways suppose to remove them.
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Dark5tar said:
Did anyone notice that, unlike the GS6 and other Galaxies before it, the S7 and S7 Edge don't have the plastic film that covers both the camera and heart sensor lenses when you first got it? Some people take them off when they got the phone, but I left it on there on my GS6 to protect the camera lense from scratches.
Just wanted to know whether someone has noticed this on their phones as well?
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That plastic makes photos you take worse because it reflects lights to the camera in a way that it is undesirable. You bought a phone with a fantastic camera. Why would you leave a thing like this attached to it?
Besides, the camera glass is Gorilla. Heart hate sensor is a cheap one. And if you use any kind of case, you can put your phone on the table and the camera glass will never touch table directly.
Enjoy your phone. I know it is not cheap, but it is just a phone.
https://youtu.be/D_bB5fnN7Jk
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goTouch said:
That plastic makes photos you take worse because it reflects lights to the camera in a way that it is undesirable. You bought a phone with a fantastic camera. Why would you leave a thing like this attached to it?
Besides, the camera glass is Gorilla. Heart hate sensor is a cheap one. And if you use any kind of case, you can put your phone on the table and the camera glass will never touch table directly.
Enjoy your phone. I know it is not cheap, but it is just a phone.
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Thanks, appreciate your feedback
Even if it did have that plastic on it and you left it on, it'd get scratched up pretty quickly. If you wanted some kind of protection though, you could try d-brand skins. They cover the glass on the camera lens, leaving only a small opening for the aperture (although I don't know how much "give" there is for the OIS function), but that could still get damaged. Personally, I just have a case, front screen protector and that's it.
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Even if it did have that plastic on it and you left it on, it'd get scratched up pretty quickly. If you wanted some kind of protection though, you could try d-brand skins. They cover the glass on the camera lens, leaving only a small opening for the aperture (although I don't know how much "give" there is for the OIS function), but that could still get damaged. Personally, I just have a case, front screen protector and that's it.
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Thanks. Glad to see another NZ lad on here
Also from NZ boys, i ordered some glass protectors from ebay and they fit really well. They fit over the camera lens and on thr heartrate sensor. Check them out. Only took a couple days to get here aswell which was awesome.
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MRDOCA said:
Also from NZ boys, i ordered some glass protectors from ebay and they fit really well. They fit over the camera lens and on thr heartrate sensor. Check them out. Only took a couple days to get here aswell which was awesome.
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Can you provide a link of the one you bought?
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/121975555820
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The more I read, the more it seems that P7P users have got a bad Lens Flare issue on the X1 Lens.
Out of curiosity, how many users here have the issue themselves?
I used to have the Mate 20 Pro for 4 years and the Lens Flare wasn't that bad in comparison to the P7P.
I'll add that I don't have a lens cover over my cameras and the glass is clean.
Everyone, that's just the nature of the beast.
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The more I read, the more it seems that P7P users have got a bad Lens Flare issue on the X1 Lens.
Out of curiosity, how many users here have the issue themselves?
I used to have the Mate 20 Pro for 4 years and the Lens Flare wasn't that bad in comparison to the P7P.
I'll add that I don't have a lens cover over my cameras and the glass is clean.
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That's not an "issue", everyone has the lens flare. It only depends on the light angle and how it hits the lens.
It's pretty bad. I took some comparison photos with my S21 before I sent it in for trade and the flare was awful. And non-existent on the Samsung photos.
This was taken with a Canon DSLR and a £2000 Canon L lens, there are always circumstances where it is going to happen.
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It's pretty bad. I took some comparison photos with my S21 before I sent it in for trade and the flare was awful. And non-existent on the Samsung photos. View attachment 5762543View attachment 5762541
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Different focal lengths though so not a fair comparison.
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This was taken with a Canon DSLR and a £2000 Canon L lens, there are always circumstances where it is going to happen.
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If it happens in some circumstances and only once in a while, its OK. But I think p7p has a permanent problem.
One request for folks who experience it: can you try a case (or any other way) which covers most of the aluminum? I think the reflections off the aluminum are adding to the flare phenomenon.
IMO, going with shiny metal around the lens was not a smart choice by google. Get the wrong curves on that part and it can mess with the light that goes into the lens.
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If it happens in some circumstances and only once in a while, its OK. But I think p7p has a permanent problem.
One request for folks who experience it: can you try a case (or any other way) which covers most of the aluminum? I think the reflections off the aluminum are adding to the flare phenomenon.
IMO, going with shiny metal around the lens was not a smart choice by google. Get the wrong curves on that part and it can mess with the light that goes into the lens.
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It does only happen in some circumstances though and only once in a while on the Pixel 7 Pro to be fair and those circumstances are using the 1X lens while it pointing it at something very bright and this is when lens flare is always a risk.
The problem is a lack of any anti reflection coating on the glass covering the lens, it is just plain glass sadly. I have wondered if we could use something as a lens hood which should help dramatically with the issue as it stops light from falling across the lens.
FWIW i have a black skin over my camera bar, it certainly made a difference one the P6P but it makes no difference whatsoever on the P7P
Using a different focal length other than 1X the problem is much, much less noticeable.
I see the issue across all lenses. That's why I think its the metal, not the lenses or the glass covering the lenses!
Any kind of coating will reduce the amount of light that the lens can capture. Is anti-reflective coating an industry standard across lenses?
hmm....quick google suggests that lack of anti reflective coatings on lenses may be the reason for this unusual issue. Which means that we are stuck with it...
And it does look like that anti reflective coating is the norm and it actually increases the light that reaches the sensor....Why would google hardware not do this? go figure!
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I see the issue across all lenses. That's why I think its the metal, not the lenses or the glass covering the lenses!
Any kind of coating will reduce the amount of light that the lens can capture. Is anti-reflective coating an industry standard across lenses?
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As i said, i have a black skin on my camera bar, there is no metal showing.
Any lens worth its salt be it camera or glasses will have an anti-reflective coating.
Why Lens Coatings Are So Important in Photography
A look at the science of camera lens coatings and how they improve optics while reducing things like lens flares in photographs.
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devsk said:
hmm....quick google suggests that lack of anti reflective coatings on lenses may be the reason for this unusual issue. Which means that we are stuck with it...
And it does look like that anti reflective coating is the norm and it actually increases the light that reaches the sensor....Why would google hardware not do this? go figure!
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They have on the lenses, they just didn't bother on the class covering them.
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They have on the lenses, they just didn't bother on the class covering them.
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Any idea if it can be applied after the fact from the outside? Or is it something that has to be cured into the glass before putting it on the frame?
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Any idea if it can be applied after the fact from the outside? Or is it something that has to be cured into the glass before putting it on the frame?
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That i don't know, i wouldn't want to risk buggering the whole thing up myself as any coating has to bond to the glass and getting it back off could be difficult.
The fix may be as simple as holding your hand above the lens like a simple lens hood to prevent light scatter.
I went to a Christmas light switch on last night and the lens flare and the simple reflections you get from the plain glass doesn't half make you study the scene to try to get around it, that in its self makes spontaneous street photography at night difficult.