Database Info

Those cancelling HOX preorders, what makes you think the S3 BL won't be locked?

I've seen a few people say they are cancelling their HOX preorders and getting the S3 over this whole BL issue. I am just curious if people think it will be a different story with the S3. To me, it seems that AT&T is behind the lock and I assume they would just as quickly lock down the S3. What do you guys think?

I think it'll be just like vivid..it will be unlockable in around month..I hope lol either way I'm keeping mine it's beautiful!
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

mzimmer88 said:
I've seen a few people say they are cancelling their HOX preorders and getting the S3 over this whole BL issue. I am just curious if people think it will be a different story with the S3. To me, it seems that AT&T is behind the lock and I assume they would just as quickly lock down the S3. What do you guys think?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Samsung dosent lock their bootloaders.

Samsung has generally been rather good at unlocking... Or just not properly.securing BL.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

jeremyshaw said:
Samsung has generally been rather good at unlocking... Or just not properly.securing BL.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ahh, thanks for the clarification. I have been using my Samsung Captivate which was always easy to do whatever with. I just thought that it came from a different point in Android BL openness history

Would just like to add that the BL lock does suck, but this is by far the best stock experience I have ever had on any mobile device. That also includes iOS.

americasteam said:
Would just like to add that the BL lock does suck, but this is by far the best stock experience I have ever had on any mobile device. That also includes iOS.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree. HTC has done a bang up job, but dammit I want Stock ICS

I think Samsung has a lot more pull with the carriers too. The Galaxy SIII was the most hyped phone in a long time... I don't think AT&T would just turn down the Galaxy SIII cause Samsung wants the boot loader unlocked.

I doubt SGS3 will be locked. But still Im not mad about HTC's Bootloader lock since it works so well out the box (like the Vivid after ICS) as long as it works well, im happy. Honestly im not in a hurry to root since i wouldnt know what to do except mess around since i dont think i need anything improved as of today (except wifi bug, but htc should fix soon)
Sent from my HTC One X

mike21pr said:
I doubt SGS3 will be locked. But still Im not mad about HTC's Bootloader lock since it works so well out the box (like the Vivid after ICS) as long as it works well, im happy. Honestly im not in a hurry to root since i wouldnt know what to do except mess around since i dont think i need anything improved as of today (except wifi bug, but htc should fix soon)
Sent from my HTC One X
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My biggest thing is tethering, since I would have to give up my grandfathered unlimited data plan to get it with root.

The only thing I would be looking forward to would be a debloated stock ROM. I am loving this stock experience. Oh and also for occasional wifi tethering.

I actually just bought this phone from the AT&T store today.. switched from a Galaxy S2, rooted with CM7.2.
The stock experience on this phone is.. amazing, to say the least. The display alone is just crazy. It feels like I'm looking at a photo, or one of those stickers on the phones you can't actually mess with in stores.
While it sucks not being able to root + drop a custom ROM on here.. I'm willing to wait until it eventually happens. The out of box experience is head and shoulders above any other Android phone I've used (Nexus One, Galaxy S2, Droid Incredible). If it never gets unlocked.. well, I'll still be happy with my purchase.

mzimmer88 said:
My biggest thing is tethering, since I would have to give up my grandfathered unlimited data plan to get it with root.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There are alot of non-root tethering apps. Koush's works great.
Disclaimer: I have not tried it with the One X yet, but it worked on my old Droid X fine.

[Q] Should i sell my htc one and get a N5?

Should i sell my htc one and get a N5? and maybe profit? sort of an upgrade but not really. Dont know if its worth it.

Roastfish said:
Should i sell my htc one and get a N5? and maybe profit? sort of an upgrade but not really. Dont know if its worth it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think YES you should!
I'll sell my HOX

Roastfish said:
Should i sell my htc one and get a N5? and maybe profit? sort of an upgrade but not really. Dont know if its worth it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wait dude ..Have some patience dont do in hurry, Let this device come first , Let some people owns it,See its reviews & then decide if its worth along with profit then go for it. :fingers-crossed:

Roastfish said:
Should i sell my htc one and get a N5? and maybe profit? sort of an upgrade but not really. Dont know if its worth it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No one knows if it is worth it yet, we know absolutely nothing about the device yet despite what everyone thinks.
For N4 users we should at least be gaining LTE. Otherwise, not sure what else we will be gaining until the device gets announced.
Depending on what network your One is on, if you want the latest updates you can always flash a GP edition Rom and then run stock Android.
Hopefully we will find out the N5 details soon.

[email protected] said:
No one knows if it is worth it yet, we know absolutely nothing about the device yet despite what everyone thinks.
For N4 users we should at least be gaining LTE. Otherwise, not sure what else we will be gaining until the device gets announced.
Depending on what network your One is on, if you want the latest updates you can always flash a GP edition Rom and then run stock Android.
Hopefully we will find out the N5 details soon.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yea i suppose, i heard it was coming out but now that theres so much leaked info on specs its making me think twice about selling my one.
also another big problem htc one has is that the custom aosp roms r kinda laggy in general unless u use the GE or sense roms. but then u wouldnt be able to get features like halo

i sold mine 2 days ago, tired of the crappy battery, camera and build quality , no nfc for google wallet , im ready for the nexus 5

Short Answer:Yes
Long Answer: if you cant afford to keep both, than Yes, sell the HtC ONE.
Sent from my SM-N900T using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

No brainer.... Buying a nexus is always an easy decision.
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4

Thinking about selling my SGS4...only thing holding me back is the battery, so im going to wait till its released and see how long it lasts...I meam it may be a small battery compared to the S4 but than again its not running all the OEM bloat/its optimized for AOSP...so we'll see
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 4

mg2195 said:
Thinking about selling my SGS4...only thing holding me back is the battery, so im going to wait till its released and see how long it lasts...I meam it may be a small battery compared to the S4 but than again its not running all the OEM bloat/its optimized for AOSP...so we'll see
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 4
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah it is not big battery , but i think on lolipop everybody should be able to get around 4h of SOT , unninstall apps you dont really need/use , turn off bluetooth and data when you are not using it same goes for location , NFC .. It should last whole day with this tips , and stock android is awsome you wil love it Nexus 5 is good upgrade from galaxy S4

No way keep the aluminum body

Why is this forum for Verizon gs5 slow?

Why is this forum for Verizon gs5 slow? Is the phone not that popular for some reason?
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using xda app-developers app

sdsubball23 said:
Why is this forum for Verizon gs5 slow? Is the phone not that popular for some reason?
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Because, thus far, Verizon has made development a royal PITA. Plus, its still pretty early. Simple as that.

Yeah its only been a week, I too am surprised by this but even with no root it should be picking up users within a few weeks.

No root would mean much smaller traffic here. Then you have rubes like me waiting (perhaps futilely) for a 32gb model who will stick with their S4 until one is offered.

Just wait men,

I feel like going back to my m7 or picking up an m8 until development picks up here.
Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

Lodaserves said:
Just wait men,
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
not hopeful. unless there is a leak from inside samsung.
look at the note 3. its pretty dead from an AOSP perspective. and even TW based roms, nobody can apply future kernel upgrades so its a dead end route.
at this point anyone who wants anything custom from their phones should probably not look at samsung devices.

Hopefully when the dev version is released this picks up more.

I'm at a crossroads right now... My S3 smashed 2 weeks ago so I picked up a M8 because there was no release date for the S5 yet. I have since ordered the S5 and planned on returning the M8 (very nice phone by the way but not super impressed with the camera). Flipping a coin and keeping the S5 hoping for root, etc. or keeping the M8 and root immediately.... merrrrrrrrrrrr

anothen said:
I'm at a crossroads right now... My S3 smashed 2 weeks ago so I picked up a M8 because there was no release date for the S5 yet. I have since ordered the S5 and planned on returning the M8 (very nice phone by the way but not super impressed with the camera). Flipping a coin and keeping the S5 hoping for root, etc. or keeping the M8 and root immediately.... merrrrrrrrrrrr
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'd have to vote M8. I've had mine since release day and it's S-Off and running Viper. I'm really liking the M8, camera and all. I got the S5 yesterday and I messed with it all last night and today, so far my impression is "Meh... really?" Not loving the S5 yet.

k.electron said:
not hopeful. unless there is a leak from inside samsung.
look at the note 3. its pretty dead from an AOSP perspective. and even TW based roms, nobody can apply future kernel upgrades so its a dead end route.
at this point anyone who wants anything custom from their phones should probably not look at Samsung devices.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not bad for me. i think some people not know how to use it perfectly.. i Hope it will increased ASAP..

You don't have to wait
rushless said:
No root would mean much smaller traffic here. Then you have rubes like me waiting (perhaps futilely) for a 32gb model who will stick with their S4 until one is offered.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I felt the same way as you but didn't want to wait. Keep an eye on slickdeals for a fast 64gb micro sd. The new fast ones (I got the Samsung Plus 64gb) and honestly you can really notice the read write time performance. I'm never waiting for apps/pics/vids to load from my micro sd on this phone. It's just like internal memory. I directly compared this with my slightly older sandisk 64gb micro from last year and it's night and day. I got it for $32 on a deal but it's $46 now on amazon. It won't let me post external links since I'm new.
Totally worth being an early adopter. Order your 16GB S5 with that card and don't look back. If you need a ton of space down the road, get a fast 128gb micro sd when it launches.
Might be blabbering here.. but you can't discount the speed of sd cards. You can't think of it like 48mb/s, but more like 10mb/.2 seconds. This little bursts are what your apps and other things need to boot quickly.

I got the S3 the day it come out on Verizon. There were issues with a locked bootloader and what-not with that. It was just a matter of time until you could unlock it with a simple app install.
I do like my S5 as it is. I do hope with time there'll be work arounds for what Verizon had put in place.

Chucky5150 said:
I got the S3 the day it come out on Verizon. There were issues with a locked bootloader and what-not with that. It was just a matter of time until you could unlock it with a simple app install.
I do like my S5 as it is. I do hope with time there'll be work arounds for what Verizon had put in place.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You are obviously not acquainted with changes made since the S3. Take a look at the S4 forums, the only way you can unlock the bootloader is if your phone came with a specific firmware and you did not do any OTA updates to change it. This is because of a specific exploit found in that version, which Samsung/Verizon quickly patched and the phone has been locked down ever since. Sure, it's possible that an exploit will be found in the VZW S5 but it won't be something simple as downloading an app and clicking "Unlock". And you can believe as soon as it's public, it will get patched with an OTA.

Chucky5150 said:
I got the S3 the day it come out on Verizon. There were issues with a locked bootloader and what-not with that. It was just a matter of time until you could unlock it with a simple app install.
I do like my S5 as it is. I do hope with time there'll be work arounds for what Verizon had put in place.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I vividly remember this as well. It's only a matter of time before root or bootloader unlock is achieved. Some developer out there will want to come to the rescue. I know several that love playing hero
Follow Me @Bash_array

Not very conducive to development
Don't buy locked down devices if you want quick development

Switch or come from M8?

Anyone thinking about switching to the M8, due to root and not being able to control the battery? Or come from the M8 and have comments?
Contemplating the switch

I'm coming here from a galaxy s4 and my s5 should be shipping but I was really on the fence between these two. But with this one no having root and everything I'm still not sure what I'm going to do. I'll probably just try out s5 and see if it's worth keeping even without root. What are your guys complaints on s5.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

ElijahD407 said:
I'm coming here from a galaxy s4 and my s5 should be shipping but I was really on the fence between these two. But with this one no having root and everything I'm still not sure what I'm going to do. I'll probably just try out s5 and see if it's worth keeping even without root. What are your guys complaints on s5.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i came from the G2, the battery i kill in less than a day. i check my email and FB @6am. by 6:20 my battery is at 90% with the powersaving on and grayscale feature disabled. using wifi.
i feel like i cant get through a day. with my G2 i could get through an entire work day and be at 70% battery.
Going to look at the M8 now

BlueHarford said:
i came from the G2, the battery i kill in less than a day. i check my email and FB @6am. by 6:20 my battery is at 90% with the powersaving on and grayscale feature disabled. using wifi.
i feel like i cant get through a day. with my G2 i could get through an entire work day and be at 70% battery.
Going to look at the M8 now
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wow first I'm hearing about such subpar battery life. I was under the impression that the s5's battery is a bit better then M8.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

ElijahD407 said:
Wow first I'm hearing about such subpar battery life. I was under the impression that the s5's battery is a bit better then M8.
Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's definitely better, I don't know why anyone would look to the M8 for an improvement if they're coming from the GS5.

BlueHarford said:
Anyone thinking about switching to the M8, due to root and not being able to control the battery? Or come from the M8 and have comments?
Contemplating the switch
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I returned the M8 due to it being ridiculously slippery and just very difficult to hold. I'd hold my breath each time i got it out!

Coming from the M8
Syn Ack said:
It's definitely better, I don't know why anyone would look to the M8 for an improvement if they're coming from the GS5.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I got the HTC One M8 the day it came out for Verizon and it is an incredible phone. Very fast and responsive, beautiful and sleek but coming from a galaxy s4 ( and thinking I was tired of touchwiz and Samsung phones) I couldn't get used to the volume controls in the other side and such. I switched to the S5 (burning my only exchange option) in the day 14th of using the M8 because of the wonderful screen, the better camera and the volume keys location besides that this phone feels sturdy and robust.
I dislike the vibration caused by the speakers and how different it sounds when compared to the M8. Also I see myself double tapping the screen frequently to turn on the phone. But the main difference is how slow this phone is compared to the M8 and even to my "old" galaxy S4. Despite all those facts I still love my S5 and if I had the chance wouldn't exchanged it back with the M8 even when I keep looking for apps to turn on my screen by double tapping and ways to make my phone faster.
I'd prefer to wait longer and if I don't get use to the slowness of this device I might give it to my wife in August (when her upgrade is available) and get myself a new phone such as the new LG G3, etc. I used to root and install lots of ROMs in my old S3 (now my wife's), and other phones but I did not root my S4 and did not miss it. I am OK with my S5 if it was faster and could double tap to turn on. This screen in amazing and I think I already got used to Samsung phones.
M8 is a great phone but to simple for me and the screen don't get close to the S5 in my humble opinion. Besides it's heavier and slippery that I thought I was going to drop it any minute, even when I can't get over its speed and responsiveness.

jongraytv said:
I returned the M8 due to it being ridiculously slippery and just very difficult to hold. I'd hold my breath each time i got it out!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Im coming from S4 to S5 but due to not having root im taking it back today. Actually liked how snappy it is and smooth it works. Reason i need root is need to tether my unlimited data. Was actually considering M8 cause its roited and unlocked but i just dont know might wait for that Sony to come out soon.

I'm on the gs5 right now but I seem to be having little issues like the screen not coming back on after hitting power then trying to turn phone back on. I do this a lot I'm noticing now. I've had each galaxy phone Verizon has had and I still have the m7 gs4 gs3 and gs5 this has the best screen IMO and will miss camera. I'll hold one to the gs5 in hopes of the root but will have the m8 as my main phone for the time being. The little issues I have from the gs5 makes it feel like a downgrade from the m7.
Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

Had the s5. Bought the m8 first, then got the S5 but returned it to keep the M8. No regrets. I didn't like how long it was to have to reach up to turn the screen off but I found a screen off widget do one handed use is perfect.
Sent from my HTC6525LVW using xda app-developers app

First off, i'm impressed with this thread so far. Everyone giving their opinions and not telling anyone what they should do or that something sucks.. It's refreshing.
I own both myself and the G2. While the displays on the G2 and M8 are great and are by no means slouches, the AMOLED on the S5 is just stunning. The best on a mobile device I've ever owned. I do enjoy the back and it feels well construed. I went ahead and added wireless hotspot to my unlimited plan for another $30. I did this for more than just having it on my S5, the only device I own that isn't rooted but wanted to throw that out there for those who are worried about it affecting their unlimited data and don't mind paying the extra cash.. It only brings my bill up to $120 so it's acceptable for me. I love my devices and usually hold on to all of them but with S5, I planned on giving it a test run as I'm in love with the M8 and will not be parting with it anytime soon. But, I didn't count on my love for the S5's display. I'll be keeping it as well.. At least until the G3 comes out. A Galaxy device is like money in the bank. Great resale value. Owning all the devices that I do and cruising all the threads, it's obviously, as we all know, personal preference. Just keep at the reviews and find what features are most valuable to you.
If all my devices were held hostage and I was only allowed to keep one, it would be none of the above. It would be my developer edition Moto X, that is covered by warranty while being unlocked, rooted and running a custom ROM based the stock Moto UI.
Sorry for the novel, I always end up rambling.
Sent from my SM-G900V using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

Ciscoaudrey said:
Im coming from S4 to S5 but due to not having root im taking it back today. Actually liked how snappy it is and smooth it works. Reason i need root is need to tether my unlimited data. Was actually considering M8 cause its roited and unlocked but i just dont know might wait for that Sony to come out soon.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
KitKat kills tethering.
Sent from my SM-G900V using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

I am exchanging my s5 tomorrow for the m8. The s5 is awesome but there's a few things I'm really looking forward to on the m8...
1. Root/s-off. This is important to me. For me having a phone without root is like having a bike with flat tires. You can still ride it, but it sucks and the bike is so much more fun with pumped up tires.
2. On screen buttons. I do not like the physical home button, and since I am left handed I HATE that the back button is in the bottom right hand corner. It's a pain for me to reach. If I could switch the back and recents button on the s5 that would go a long way.
3. Front speakers. I watch a lot of stuff on my phone and the first time I heard the speakers on the m8 I knew I was probably gonna exchange my phone.
4. Double tap to turn on. I fell in love with this feature on the G2 (kinda wish I had just kept that phone. It's a great phone. Gave it to my sister in law though). Once you get used to this feature it's hard to not have it.
Things I'll miss about the s5:
1. The screen. It. is. Beautiful.
2. Water resistant. It's been a long time since I've dropped my phone in the toilet. I'm overdue for it to happen again.
3. Removable battery. I've always like this feature.
Any thoughts on the battery life of the m8 vs the s5? I know the battery life on the G2 was quite a bit better than on my s5. Is the battery on the m8 even worse?
Lastly - what's with the sim card on the s5 not being spring loaded? IT's a PAIN to take out.
---------- Post added at 10:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:10 PM ----------
dts242 said:
KitKat kills tethering.
Sent from my SM-G900V using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What do you mean? I've tethered many times on different phones running kit kat. Lack of root kills tethering. Not kit kat.

supermatt9 said:
I am exchanging my s5 tomorrow for the m8. The s5 is awesome but there's a few things I'm really looking forward to on the m8...
1. Root/s-off. This is important to me. For me having a phone without root is like having a bike with flat tires. You can still ride it, but it sucks and the bike is so much more fun with pumped up tires.
2. On screen buttons. I do not like the physical home button, and since I am left handed I HATE that the back button is in the bottom right hand corner. It's a pain for me to reach. If I could switch the back and recents button on the s5 that would go a long way.
3. Front speakers. I watch a lot of stuff on my phone and the first time I heard the speakers on the m8 I knew I was probably gonna exchange my phone.
4. Double tap to turn on. I fell in love with this feature on the G2 (kinda wish I had just kept that phone. It's a great phone. Gave it to my sister in law though). Once you get used to this feature it's hard to not have it.
Things I'll miss about the s5:
1. The screen. It. is. Beautiful.
2. Water resistant. It's been a long time since I've dropped my phone in the toilet. I'm overdue for it to happen again.
3. Removable battery. I've always like this feature.
Any thoughts on the battery life of the m8 vs the s5? I know the battery life on the G2 was quite a bit better than on my s5. Is the battery on the m8 even worse?
Lastly - what's with the sim card on the s5 not being spring loaded? IT's a PAIN to take out.
---------- Post added at 10:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:10 PM ----------
What do you mean? I've tethered many times on different phones running kit kat. Lack of root kills tethering. Not kit kat.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You need more than root for tethering to work. FoxFi has stated that it will never work on KitKat. Hopefully somebody will find a way.
Sent from my SM-G900V using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

dts242 said:
You need more than root for tethering to work. FoxFi has stated that it will never work on KitKat. Hopefully somebody will find a way.
Sent from my SM-G900V using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good point. In my experience I have always rooted and then flashed a rom. Whether it was a stock rooted rom or a custom build like CM, tethering was always built in.

dts242 said:
You need more than root for tethering to work. FoxFi has stated that it will never work on KitKat. Hopefully somebody will find a way.
Sent from my SM-G900V using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
if you use AOSP it works fine... G2 tethered all the time

BlueHarford said:
if you use AOSP it works fine... G2 tethered all the time
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
AOSP will probably not be an option. It was only possible on the S4 when it first came out. After updates, you could only flash TW based ROM's.
Sent from my SM-G900V using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

Coming from S4 MDK to the S5. My brother needed a replacement phone, so I made a commitment to give the S4 to him, knowing the S5 was going to be a PITA to root. Though we don't have root, I'd rather suffer with a locked down S5, than suffer more with a rooted M8. Can't wait for something else to come along and offer another alternative.

Please continue in the sticky thread for upgrading and device comparisons
Thanks
FNSM

Returned my G3 this morning

I tried to like this phone , but could not... I was sick of the random reboots and overall sluggish feeling of this phone. I had Note 3 before this and what a mistake....Will get Note 4 in a few weeks.... It's been fun!!
Sent from my SM-P600 using XDA Premium HD app

Well good luck with the note.
I never had any issues out of my g3. Battery is great, no overheating, no random reboots, no major lagging as a matter of fact no lag at all mostly a stutter here and there in the app drawer from time to time. Been using the stock lg launcher since I got the phone and everything for me has been fluid.....
Lol then I see you made a post saying the phone was fast and no problems out of it........

I've had my phone for over a month now and I've never had any random reboots or overheating. I use my phone a lot so battery is meh for Me. But I'm happy and I love it.
No matter what, I can never stay away from android for long.

Lol I know it was new and I thought it was okay at the time...as time went on.. I started to have buyers remorse...with Att&t making us use Pma charging ..That was it for me...I just like Samsung better...
Sent from my SM-P600 using XDA Premium HD app

Just bought mine a lil over a week ago , hated to but got the carrier branded AT&T version. This is actually 2nd one. The first phone kept randomly shutting off during activation at the store. I like this phone. It has times where different points on the screen become unresponsive. Aggregating...it also seems to use much more of the ram than I would expect right out of the box. I use a tempered glass screen protector that may or not be causing my screen issues? As a LONG time HTC user, coming from the One, M7. I'm still getting used to something different. I do like it though. Thinking about rooting when I have time off because once boot loader is unlocked I think this device will be a beast!
Sent from my LG-D850 using XDA Premium HD app

Had my phone over a month now and absolutely loving it. Running stock rooted, no greenify. I froze all the AT&T apps and none of the LG ones. I use the stock launcher and get well over 4+ hours of screen on time, no overheating, no reboots, etc. My fiancee has the phone as well and she's been averaging almost 6+ hrs of screen on time, however where she works has better signal. I travel all over the place for work and signal is spotty.

No rebooting issues here. I will admit that my m8 outperforms the g3 (except for the camera). However, the note 3 that I received last year was a total disappointment. That was random rebooting nightmare. I guess it really depends on the specific device you get. Some may receive a subpar device.

traesnaidensdad said:
Just bought mine a lil over a week ago , hated to but got the carrier branded AT&T version. This is actually 2nd one. The first phone kept randomly shutting off during activation at the store. I like this phone. It has times where different points on the screen become unresponsive. Aggregating...it also seems to use much more of the ram than I would expect right out of the box. I use a tempered glass screen protector that may or not be causing my screen issues? As a LONG time HTC user, coming from the One, M7. I'm still getting used to something different. I do like it though. Thinking about rooting when I have time off because once boot loader is unlocked I think this device will be a beast!
Sent from my LG-D850 using XDA Premium HD app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Have the same issue with the screen becoming unresponsive in spots at times. I, too, have one of the tempered glass screen protectors bought from the AT&T Store. Such a coincidence, makes me wonder...

GalaxyNotesTx said:
I tried to like this phone , but could not... I was sick of the random reboots and overall sluggish feeling of this phone. I had Note 3 before this and what a mistake....Will get Note 4 in a few weeks.... It's been fun!!
Sent from my SM-P600 using XDA Premium HD app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's what I just said about my Galaxy S5. Now I can make calls from my new car, have no reboot issues and have a better signal in my home. No more unlimited data but I wasn't using exorbitant amounts of it before anyway.
Note 3 or 4 wouldn't solve my issues. Samsung's bluetooth stack is broken and they know all about it.
Get in where you fit in. Good luck.

Ker~Man said:
Have the same issue with the screen becoming unresponsive in spots at times. I, too, have one of the tempered glass screen protectors bought from the AT&T Store. Such a coincidence, makes me wonder...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's the screen protector i had it and i exhanged it at the store cause i was still in my 14days after i bought it, they exhanged it and i got the invisishield one that i had on a couple devices in the past, i recommend you try to exhange it if not get a cheap screen protector while you browse for a new one cause believe me you will think its the phone but it's not.
Sent from my LG-D850 using XDA Free mobile app

Thinking the same thing,but not because of problems...just slow development. Thinking of going back to note3

blacknight1114 said:
Thinking the same thing,but not because of problems...just slow development. Thinking of going back to note3
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The phone just came out though... Maybe wait until they unlock bootloader or come out with special recovery for roms?

kalani91 said:
The phone just came out though... Maybe wait until they unlock bootloader or come out with special recovery for roms?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Slow walking the bootloader unlock is gonna kill development. Seen it before. If it becomes a popular device devs will come and an unlock with it but I understand people wanting a device with options. I don't use 3rd party ROMs anymore so I don't care much.

dxwilliams40 said:
No rebooting issues here. I will admit that my m8 outperforms the g3 (except for the camera). However, the note 3 that I received last year was a total disappointment. That was random rebooting nightmare. I guess it really depends on the specific device you get. Some may receive a subpar device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Agreed. My M8 is faster too, but after a root / debloat / exposed / different launcher / no carrier IQ... not by much.
I have not experienced much lag, mainly keyboard (any) delays keeping up with typing.
I believe that we haven't seen the true potential of the g3 until this bootloader is cracked and meaningful customization is a reality.

GorillaPimp said:
Slow walking the bootloader unlock is gonna kill development. Seen it before. If it becomes a popular device devs will come and an unlock with it but I understand people wanting a device with options. I don't use 3rd party ROMs anymore so I don't care much.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
3's&7's said:
Agreed. My M8 is faster too, but after a root / debloat / exposed / different launcher / no carrier IQ... not by much.
I have not experienced much lag, mainly keyboard (any) delays keeping up with typing.
I believe that we haven't seen the true potential of the g3 until this bootloader is cracked and meaningful customization is a reality.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This phone is great! No lag of any kind on my phone. It is rooted and running ART. No screen protector needed. All at&t bloat frozen. Phone is fast, battery life is very good. Better than I expected. The signal is also very good. I pick up LTE in my office at work where before I could only get 4g sometimes. Very happy with this phone as is.

GorillaPimp said:
Slow walking the bootloader unlock is gonna kill development.
I don't use 3rd party ROMs anymore so I don't care much.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I dunno about all that. According to development updates in the bounty thread devs working on it are confident that they can unlock it, and that it's right around the corner.
I'm all for meaningful customization.. I imagine my g3 with the latest miui on it, that would be sweet... That said, this is the first phone I've been happy with as is. Debloated, greenify, g3 tweak box and the stock rom isn't all that bad.
Sent from my LG-D850 using XDA Free mobile app

st0nez0r said:
I dunno about all that. According to development updates in the bounty thread devs working on it are confident that they can unlock it, and that it's right around the corner.
I'm all for meaningful customization.. I imagine my g3 with the latest miui on it, that would be sweet... That said, this is the first phone I've been happy with as is. Debloated, greenify, g3 tweak box and the stock rom isn't all that bad.
Sent from my LG-D850 using XDA Free mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Phone runs awesome...to bad it's with att who just downright sucks. Plus the devs have prolly already unlocked it so they are prolly waitng to get more donations because it's become a profitable business, which I don't blame them. I would if I knew how....I just build stuff.
Sent from my LG-D850 using XDA Free mobile app

GalaxyNotesTx said:
I tried to like this phone , but could not... I was sick of the random reboots and overall sluggish feeling of this phone. I had Note 3 before this and what a mistake....Will get Note 4 in a few weeks.... It's been fun!!
Sent from my SM-P600 using XDA Premium HD app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have mine up for sale because of my issues with it. Had potential to be a great phone but to many buggy laggy areas

dxwilliams40 said:
No rebooting issues here. I will admit that my m8 outperforms the g3 (except for the camera). However, the note 3 that I received last year was a total disappointment. That was random rebooting nightmare. I guess it really depends on the specific device you get. Some may receive a subpar device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have no idea what you're talking about! The note 3 is the best phone out right now. No reboots here at all. Ever. I had one issue on jellybean, the sleep/power button had some lag. But since I moved over to kitkat, that issue is resolved. The screen is sick! 5.7 inch, Super amoled, which is the best imo, 3gb of ram, 32gb internal storage, micro sd slot, usb 3.0. Need I say more? Lol. Now, I also love htc, is my first love. I used to hate samsung. That is until I gave the note 3 a shot. It changed my mind about samsung. And I tried the G3, but it wasn't for me. Ill stick with htc and Samsung.

st0nez0r said:
I dunno about all that. According to development updates in the bounty thread devs working on it are confident that they can unlock it, and that it's right around the corner.
I'm all for meaningful customization.. I imagine my g3 with the latest miui on it, that would be sweet... That said, this is the first phone I've been happy with as is. Debloated, greenify, g3 tweak box and the stock rom isn't all that bad.
Sent from my LG-D850 using XDA Free mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Cool. I hope I'm very very wrong. I know some devs have unlocks waiting but I guess I'm used to devs staying away if development on a new device isn't hot - which usually is in line with how popular a device is. I'm lost on why this is working out like this with the G3.
I'm really happy with stock too for once. I usually root, unlock, throw Nova on it and maybe go with a stock debloat deodexed or some variation of stock. I can't believe I'm good with the stock launcher ,de-carrieriq'ed + tweakbox. I'm not seeing any lag issues at all either. This thing is dusting my S5. I'm just happy that everything is working, radio being disabled and IR being hosed for 3rd party apps sucks a bit but that's minor.