Anyone thinking about switching to the M8, due to root and not being able to control the battery? Or come from the M8 and have comments?
Contemplating the switch
I'm coming here from a galaxy s4 and my s5 should be shipping but I was really on the fence between these two. But with this one no having root and everything I'm still not sure what I'm going to do. I'll probably just try out s5 and see if it's worth keeping even without root. What are your guys complaints on s5.
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ElijahD407 said:
I'm coming here from a galaxy s4 and my s5 should be shipping but I was really on the fence between these two. But with this one no having root and everything I'm still not sure what I'm going to do. I'll probably just try out s5 and see if it's worth keeping even without root. What are your guys complaints on s5.
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i came from the G2, the battery i kill in less than a day. i check my email and FB @6am. by 6:20 my battery is at 90% with the powersaving on and grayscale feature disabled. using wifi.
i feel like i cant get through a day. with my G2 i could get through an entire work day and be at 70% battery.
Going to look at the M8 now
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i came from the G2, the battery i kill in less than a day. i check my email and FB @6am. by 6:20 my battery is at 90% with the powersaving on and grayscale feature disabled. using wifi.
i feel like i cant get through a day. with my G2 i could get through an entire work day and be at 70% battery.
Going to look at the M8 now
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Wow first I'm hearing about such subpar battery life. I was under the impression that the s5's battery is a bit better then M8.
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ElijahD407 said:
Wow first I'm hearing about such subpar battery life. I was under the impression that the s5's battery is a bit better then M8.
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It's definitely better, I don't know why anyone would look to the M8 for an improvement if they're coming from the GS5.
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Anyone thinking about switching to the M8, due to root and not being able to control the battery? Or come from the M8 and have comments?
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I returned the M8 due to it being ridiculously slippery and just very difficult to hold. I'd hold my breath each time i got it out!
Coming from the M8
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It's definitely better, I don't know why anyone would look to the M8 for an improvement if they're coming from the GS5.
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I got the HTC One M8 the day it came out for Verizon and it is an incredible phone. Very fast and responsive, beautiful and sleek but coming from a galaxy s4 ( and thinking I was tired of touchwiz and Samsung phones) I couldn't get used to the volume controls in the other side and such. I switched to the S5 (burning my only exchange option) in the day 14th of using the M8 because of the wonderful screen, the better camera and the volume keys location besides that this phone feels sturdy and robust.
I dislike the vibration caused by the speakers and how different it sounds when compared to the M8. Also I see myself double tapping the screen frequently to turn on the phone. But the main difference is how slow this phone is compared to the M8 and even to my "old" galaxy S4. Despite all those facts I still love my S5 and if I had the chance wouldn't exchanged it back with the M8 even when I keep looking for apps to turn on my screen by double tapping and ways to make my phone faster.
I'd prefer to wait longer and if I don't get use to the slowness of this device I might give it to my wife in August (when her upgrade is available) and get myself a new phone such as the new LG G3, etc. I used to root and install lots of ROMs in my old S3 (now my wife's), and other phones but I did not root my S4 and did not miss it. I am OK with my S5 if it was faster and could double tap to turn on. This screen in amazing and I think I already got used to Samsung phones.
M8 is a great phone but to simple for me and the screen don't get close to the S5 in my humble opinion. Besides it's heavier and slippery that I thought I was going to drop it any minute, even when I can't get over its speed and responsiveness.
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I returned the M8 due to it being ridiculously slippery and just very difficult to hold. I'd hold my breath each time i got it out!
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Im coming from S4 to S5 but due to not having root im taking it back today. Actually liked how snappy it is and smooth it works. Reason i need root is need to tether my unlimited data. Was actually considering M8 cause its roited and unlocked but i just dont know might wait for that Sony to come out soon.
I'm on the gs5 right now but I seem to be having little issues like the screen not coming back on after hitting power then trying to turn phone back on. I do this a lot I'm noticing now. I've had each galaxy phone Verizon has had and I still have the m7 gs4 gs3 and gs5 this has the best screen IMO and will miss camera. I'll hold one to the gs5 in hopes of the root but will have the m8 as my main phone for the time being. The little issues I have from the gs5 makes it feel like a downgrade from the m7.
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Had the s5. Bought the m8 first, then got the S5 but returned it to keep the M8. No regrets. I didn't like how long it was to have to reach up to turn the screen off but I found a screen off widget do one handed use is perfect.
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First off, i'm impressed with this thread so far. Everyone giving their opinions and not telling anyone what they should do or that something sucks.. It's refreshing.
I own both myself and the G2. While the displays on the G2 and M8 are great and are by no means slouches, the AMOLED on the S5 is just stunning. The best on a mobile device I've ever owned. I do enjoy the back and it feels well construed. I went ahead and added wireless hotspot to my unlimited plan for another $30. I did this for more than just having it on my S5, the only device I own that isn't rooted but wanted to throw that out there for those who are worried about it affecting their unlimited data and don't mind paying the extra cash.. It only brings my bill up to $120 so it's acceptable for me. I love my devices and usually hold on to all of them but with S5, I planned on giving it a test run as I'm in love with the M8 and will not be parting with it anytime soon. But, I didn't count on my love for the S5's display. I'll be keeping it as well.. At least until the G3 comes out. A Galaxy device is like money in the bank. Great resale value. Owning all the devices that I do and cruising all the threads, it's obviously, as we all know, personal preference. Just keep at the reviews and find what features are most valuable to you.
If all my devices were held hostage and I was only allowed to keep one, it would be none of the above. It would be my developer edition Moto X, that is covered by warranty while being unlocked, rooted and running a custom ROM based the stock Moto UI.
Sorry for the novel, I always end up rambling.
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Ciscoaudrey said:
Im coming from S4 to S5 but due to not having root im taking it back today. Actually liked how snappy it is and smooth it works. Reason i need root is need to tether my unlimited data. Was actually considering M8 cause its roited and unlocked but i just dont know might wait for that Sony to come out soon.
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KitKat kills tethering.
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I am exchanging my s5 tomorrow for the m8. The s5 is awesome but there's a few things I'm really looking forward to on the m8...
1. Root/s-off. This is important to me. For me having a phone without root is like having a bike with flat tires. You can still ride it, but it sucks and the bike is so much more fun with pumped up tires.
2. On screen buttons. I do not like the physical home button, and since I am left handed I HATE that the back button is in the bottom right hand corner. It's a pain for me to reach. If I could switch the back and recents button on the s5 that would go a long way.
3. Front speakers. I watch a lot of stuff on my phone and the first time I heard the speakers on the m8 I knew I was probably gonna exchange my phone.
4. Double tap to turn on. I fell in love with this feature on the G2 (kinda wish I had just kept that phone. It's a great phone. Gave it to my sister in law though). Once you get used to this feature it's hard to not have it.
Things I'll miss about the s5:
1. The screen. It. is. Beautiful.
2. Water resistant. It's been a long time since I've dropped my phone in the toilet. I'm overdue for it to happen again.
3. Removable battery. I've always like this feature.
Any thoughts on the battery life of the m8 vs the s5? I know the battery life on the G2 was quite a bit better than on my s5. Is the battery on the m8 even worse?
Lastly - what's with the sim card on the s5 not being spring loaded? IT's a PAIN to take out.
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KitKat kills tethering.
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What do you mean? I've tethered many times on different phones running kit kat. Lack of root kills tethering. Not kit kat.
supermatt9 said:
I am exchanging my s5 tomorrow for the m8. The s5 is awesome but there's a few things I'm really looking forward to on the m8...
1. Root/s-off. This is important to me. For me having a phone without root is like having a bike with flat tires. You can still ride it, but it sucks and the bike is so much more fun with pumped up tires.
2. On screen buttons. I do not like the physical home button, and since I am left handed I HATE that the back button is in the bottom right hand corner. It's a pain for me to reach. If I could switch the back and recents button on the s5 that would go a long way.
3. Front speakers. I watch a lot of stuff on my phone and the first time I heard the speakers on the m8 I knew I was probably gonna exchange my phone.
4. Double tap to turn on. I fell in love with this feature on the G2 (kinda wish I had just kept that phone. It's a great phone. Gave it to my sister in law though). Once you get used to this feature it's hard to not have it.
Things I'll miss about the s5:
1. The screen. It. is. Beautiful.
2. Water resistant. It's been a long time since I've dropped my phone in the toilet. I'm overdue for it to happen again.
3. Removable battery. I've always like this feature.
Any thoughts on the battery life of the m8 vs the s5? I know the battery life on the G2 was quite a bit better than on my s5. Is the battery on the m8 even worse?
Lastly - what's with the sim card on the s5 not being spring loaded? IT's a PAIN to take out.
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What do you mean? I've tethered many times on different phones running kit kat. Lack of root kills tethering. Not kit kat.
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You need more than root for tethering to work. FoxFi has stated that it will never work on KitKat. Hopefully somebody will find a way.
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You need more than root for tethering to work. FoxFi has stated that it will never work on KitKat. Hopefully somebody will find a way.
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Good point. In my experience I have always rooted and then flashed a rom. Whether it was a stock rooted rom or a custom build like CM, tethering was always built in.
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You need more than root for tethering to work. FoxFi has stated that it will never work on KitKat. Hopefully somebody will find a way.
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if you use AOSP it works fine... G2 tethered all the time
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if you use AOSP it works fine... G2 tethered all the time
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AOSP will probably not be an option. It was only possible on the S4 when it first came out. After updates, you could only flash TW based ROM's.
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Coming from S4 MDK to the S5. My brother needed a replacement phone, so I made a commitment to give the S4 to him, knowing the S5 was going to be a PITA to root. Though we don't have root, I'd rather suffer with a locked down S5, than suffer more with a rooted M8. Can't wait for something else to come along and offer another alternative.
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Im coming off of contract soon, and thinking about getting the HTC M8. I was wondering how you guys feel about it after owing it for sometime, although its still pretty new? Im coming from a Verizon Moto X dev. Edition, how much of a shock ( if any ) will I be in with the HTC m8?
Thanks.
p.s. Im thinking about this or the HTC one MAX... I think that is a different device though.
I love it so far... Had the Moto x dev edition not too long ago as well, but moved back to my Note 2 because I missed the larger screen and external SD card.
Switched to the M8 because of a common technical issue with the Note 2 that I didn't want to put up with anymore. I already know that I didn't make a mistake. This thing is blazing fast and smooth as silk.
Needs full root, though. I need to use my extsd!
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I love it so far... Had the Moto x dev edition not too long ago as well, but moved back to my Note 2 because I missed the larger screen and external SD card.
Switched to the M8 because of a common technical issue with the Note 2 that I didn't want to put up with anymore. I already know that I didn't make a mistake. This thing is blazing fast and smooth as silk.
Needs full root, though. I need to use my extsd!
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Root it, install xposed, then get the package HandleExternalStorage, and sd will work perfectly.
htc one max is bigger than the note 3 - different phone
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Root it, install xposed, then get the package HandleExternalStorage, and sd will work perfectly.
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Hey.. thank for this. I installed Xposed last night and the HES module. Works like a friggin' dream!
Anyone else on this?
Well.. coming from the note 3.
Although, i love the build quality and look/feel it would of been nice to have both tri color led and screen size of the note 3. I lswitched due to the verizon version being locked down. Heres hoping to m8 s-off.
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Anyone else on this?
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I came from the nexus 5, basically just wanted something different. Love the build quality. Phone is amazingly fast stock. Sense is better than it used to be, still put the GPL launcher on it though. Screen is great, wish it was bigger for the size of the phone, bezels are way to big. Camera is decent but not that great. Battery seems good, can easily get through a day with somewhat heavy use.
Any other specific questions just ask.
I find it kind of funny that they release a phone with KitKat and an external SD probably knowing that there was an incompatibility and wouldn't function 100% properly. I have to now install root, xposed, and a module just for R/W access to my ExtSD. Also, with Xposed sometimes have to hard reboot and re-enable Xposed since it makes WiFi wonky.
There is no sOff on this phone?
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Screen is great, wish it was bigger for the size of the phone, bezels are way to big.
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The top and bottom bezels are maybe a little large (but the speakers are housed under them, so it's understandable), but the side bezels are pretty small. In fact, without a case, they're maybe TOO small. When I hold it one-handed and try to reach for something with my thumb, the skin of my hand frequently hits something on the right-side of the screen accidentally.
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There is no sOff on this phone?
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Not yet, but it's being worked on. We're hoping it'll happen soon, but there are no guarantees. Personally, I would be happy at this point with just being able to flash custom ROM's.
Anndd Im guessing you cant do that either then? ( no custom roms? )
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Anndd Im guessing you cant do that either then? ( no custom roms? )
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No roms yet. I'm sure it's coming though. I am a flashoholic but I am entirely content with stock. Coming from romified note 2
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Bump one last time. Im going to Verizon to swap out here soon within the next week. Thanks guys!!
This is just a super fantastic phone. I'd recommend it to anyone that's in the market for a new phone. And now the we have ViperOne...it just puts it over the top. :good:
I love this phone. I prefer it OVER my wifes S5.
My ONLY regret on about getting this phone..... is me renewing my contract and getting rid of the Grandfathered Unlimited that I loved.
I am in love with the phone it's truly amazing how htc made it.
Why is this forum for Verizon gs5 slow? Is the phone not that popular for some reason?
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Why is this forum for Verizon gs5 slow? Is the phone not that popular for some reason?
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Because, thus far, Verizon has made development a royal PITA. Plus, its still pretty early. Simple as that.
Yeah its only been a week, I too am surprised by this but even with no root it should be picking up users within a few weeks.
No root would mean much smaller traffic here. Then you have rubes like me waiting (perhaps futilely) for a 32gb model who will stick with their S4 until one is offered.
Just wait men,
I feel like going back to my m7 or picking up an m8 until development picks up here.
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Just wait men,
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not hopeful. unless there is a leak from inside samsung.
look at the note 3. its pretty dead from an AOSP perspective. and even TW based roms, nobody can apply future kernel upgrades so its a dead end route.
at this point anyone who wants anything custom from their phones should probably not look at samsung devices.
Hopefully when the dev version is released this picks up more.
I'm at a crossroads right now... My S3 smashed 2 weeks ago so I picked up a M8 because there was no release date for the S5 yet. I have since ordered the S5 and planned on returning the M8 (very nice phone by the way but not super impressed with the camera). Flipping a coin and keeping the S5 hoping for root, etc. or keeping the M8 and root immediately.... merrrrrrrrrrrr
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I'm at a crossroads right now... My S3 smashed 2 weeks ago so I picked up a M8 because there was no release date for the S5 yet. I have since ordered the S5 and planned on returning the M8 (very nice phone by the way but not super impressed with the camera). Flipping a coin and keeping the S5 hoping for root, etc. or keeping the M8 and root immediately.... merrrrrrrrrrrr
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I'd have to vote M8. I've had mine since release day and it's S-Off and running Viper. I'm really liking the M8, camera and all. I got the S5 yesterday and I messed with it all last night and today, so far my impression is "Meh... really?" Not loving the S5 yet.
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not hopeful. unless there is a leak from inside samsung.
look at the note 3. its pretty dead from an AOSP perspective. and even TW based roms, nobody can apply future kernel upgrades so its a dead end route.
at this point anyone who wants anything custom from their phones should probably not look at Samsung devices.
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Not bad for me. i think some people not know how to use it perfectly.. i Hope it will increased ASAP..
You don't have to wait
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No root would mean much smaller traffic here. Then you have rubes like me waiting (perhaps futilely) for a 32gb model who will stick with their S4 until one is offered.
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I felt the same way as you but didn't want to wait. Keep an eye on slickdeals for a fast 64gb micro sd. The new fast ones (I got the Samsung Plus 64gb) and honestly you can really notice the read write time performance. I'm never waiting for apps/pics/vids to load from my micro sd on this phone. It's just like internal memory. I directly compared this with my slightly older sandisk 64gb micro from last year and it's night and day. I got it for $32 on a deal but it's $46 now on amazon. It won't let me post external links since I'm new.
Totally worth being an early adopter. Order your 16GB S5 with that card and don't look back. If you need a ton of space down the road, get a fast 128gb micro sd when it launches.
Might be blabbering here.. but you can't discount the speed of sd cards. You can't think of it like 48mb/s, but more like 10mb/.2 seconds. This little bursts are what your apps and other things need to boot quickly.
I got the S3 the day it come out on Verizon. There were issues with a locked bootloader and what-not with that. It was just a matter of time until you could unlock it with a simple app install.
I do like my S5 as it is. I do hope with time there'll be work arounds for what Verizon had put in place.
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I got the S3 the day it come out on Verizon. There were issues with a locked bootloader and what-not with that. It was just a matter of time until you could unlock it with a simple app install.
I do like my S5 as it is. I do hope with time there'll be work arounds for what Verizon had put in place.
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You are obviously not acquainted with changes made since the S3. Take a look at the S4 forums, the only way you can unlock the bootloader is if your phone came with a specific firmware and you did not do any OTA updates to change it. This is because of a specific exploit found in that version, which Samsung/Verizon quickly patched and the phone has been locked down ever since. Sure, it's possible that an exploit will be found in the VZW S5 but it won't be something simple as downloading an app and clicking "Unlock". And you can believe as soon as it's public, it will get patched with an OTA.
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I got the S3 the day it come out on Verizon. There were issues with a locked bootloader and what-not with that. It was just a matter of time until you could unlock it with a simple app install.
I do like my S5 as it is. I do hope with time there'll be work arounds for what Verizon had put in place.
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I vividly remember this as well. It's only a matter of time before root or bootloader unlock is achieved. Some developer out there will want to come to the rescue. I know several that love playing hero
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Not very conducive to development
Don't buy locked down devices if you want quick development
I tried to like this phone , but could not... I was sick of the random reboots and overall sluggish feeling of this phone. I had Note 3 before this and what a mistake....Will get Note 4 in a few weeks.... It's been fun!!
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Well good luck with the note.
I never had any issues out of my g3. Battery is great, no overheating, no random reboots, no major lagging as a matter of fact no lag at all mostly a stutter here and there in the app drawer from time to time. Been using the stock lg launcher since I got the phone and everything for me has been fluid.....
Lol then I see you made a post saying the phone was fast and no problems out of it........
I've had my phone for over a month now and I've never had any random reboots or overheating. I use my phone a lot so battery is meh for Me. But I'm happy and I love it.
No matter what, I can never stay away from android for long.
Lol I know it was new and I thought it was okay at the time...as time went on.. I started to have buyers remorse...with Att&t making us use Pma charging ..That was it for me...I just like Samsung better...
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Just bought mine a lil over a week ago , hated to but got the carrier branded AT&T version. This is actually 2nd one. The first phone kept randomly shutting off during activation at the store. I like this phone. It has times where different points on the screen become unresponsive. Aggregating...it also seems to use much more of the ram than I would expect right out of the box. I use a tempered glass screen protector that may or not be causing my screen issues? As a LONG time HTC user, coming from the One, M7. I'm still getting used to something different. I do like it though. Thinking about rooting when I have time off because once boot loader is unlocked I think this device will be a beast!
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Had my phone over a month now and absolutely loving it. Running stock rooted, no greenify. I froze all the AT&T apps and none of the LG ones. I use the stock launcher and get well over 4+ hours of screen on time, no overheating, no reboots, etc. My fiancee has the phone as well and she's been averaging almost 6+ hrs of screen on time, however where she works has better signal. I travel all over the place for work and signal is spotty.
No rebooting issues here. I will admit that my m8 outperforms the g3 (except for the camera). However, the note 3 that I received last year was a total disappointment. That was random rebooting nightmare. I guess it really depends on the specific device you get. Some may receive a subpar device.
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Just bought mine a lil over a week ago , hated to but got the carrier branded AT&T version. This is actually 2nd one. The first phone kept randomly shutting off during activation at the store. I like this phone. It has times where different points on the screen become unresponsive. Aggregating...it also seems to use much more of the ram than I would expect right out of the box. I use a tempered glass screen protector that may or not be causing my screen issues? As a LONG time HTC user, coming from the One, M7. I'm still getting used to something different. I do like it though. Thinking about rooting when I have time off because once boot loader is unlocked I think this device will be a beast!
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Have the same issue with the screen becoming unresponsive in spots at times. I, too, have one of the tempered glass screen protectors bought from the AT&T Store. Such a coincidence, makes me wonder...
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I tried to like this phone , but could not... I was sick of the random reboots and overall sluggish feeling of this phone. I had Note 3 before this and what a mistake....Will get Note 4 in a few weeks.... It's been fun!!
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That's what I just said about my Galaxy S5. Now I can make calls from my new car, have no reboot issues and have a better signal in my home. No more unlimited data but I wasn't using exorbitant amounts of it before anyway.
Note 3 or 4 wouldn't solve my issues. Samsung's bluetooth stack is broken and they know all about it.
Get in where you fit in. Good luck.
Ker~Man said:
Have the same issue with the screen becoming unresponsive in spots at times. I, too, have one of the tempered glass screen protectors bought from the AT&T Store. Such a coincidence, makes me wonder...
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It's the screen protector i had it and i exhanged it at the store cause i was still in my 14days after i bought it, they exhanged it and i got the invisishield one that i had on a couple devices in the past, i recommend you try to exhange it if not get a cheap screen protector while you browse for a new one cause believe me you will think its the phone but it's not.
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Thinking the same thing,but not because of problems...just slow development. Thinking of going back to note3
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Thinking the same thing,but not because of problems...just slow development. Thinking of going back to note3
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The phone just came out though... Maybe wait until they unlock bootloader or come out with special recovery for roms?
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The phone just came out though... Maybe wait until they unlock bootloader or come out with special recovery for roms?
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Slow walking the bootloader unlock is gonna kill development. Seen it before. If it becomes a popular device devs will come and an unlock with it but I understand people wanting a device with options. I don't use 3rd party ROMs anymore so I don't care much.
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No rebooting issues here. I will admit that my m8 outperforms the g3 (except for the camera). However, the note 3 that I received last year was a total disappointment. That was random rebooting nightmare. I guess it really depends on the specific device you get. Some may receive a subpar device.
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Agreed. My M8 is faster too, but after a root / debloat / exposed / different launcher / no carrier IQ... not by much.
I have not experienced much lag, mainly keyboard (any) delays keeping up with typing.
I believe that we haven't seen the true potential of the g3 until this bootloader is cracked and meaningful customization is a reality.
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Slow walking the bootloader unlock is gonna kill development. Seen it before. If it becomes a popular device devs will come and an unlock with it but I understand people wanting a device with options. I don't use 3rd party ROMs anymore so I don't care much.
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3's&7's said:
Agreed. My M8 is faster too, but after a root / debloat / exposed / different launcher / no carrier IQ... not by much.
I have not experienced much lag, mainly keyboard (any) delays keeping up with typing.
I believe that we haven't seen the true potential of the g3 until this bootloader is cracked and meaningful customization is a reality.
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This phone is great! No lag of any kind on my phone. It is rooted and running ART. No screen protector needed. All at&t bloat frozen. Phone is fast, battery life is very good. Better than I expected. The signal is also very good. I pick up LTE in my office at work where before I could only get 4g sometimes. Very happy with this phone as is.
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Slow walking the bootloader unlock is gonna kill development.
I don't use 3rd party ROMs anymore so I don't care much.
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I dunno about all that. According to development updates in the bounty thread devs working on it are confident that they can unlock it, and that it's right around the corner.
I'm all for meaningful customization.. I imagine my g3 with the latest miui on it, that would be sweet... That said, this is the first phone I've been happy with as is. Debloated, greenify, g3 tweak box and the stock rom isn't all that bad.
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I dunno about all that. According to development updates in the bounty thread devs working on it are confident that they can unlock it, and that it's right around the corner.
I'm all for meaningful customization.. I imagine my g3 with the latest miui on it, that would be sweet... That said, this is the first phone I've been happy with as is. Debloated, greenify, g3 tweak box and the stock rom isn't all that bad.
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Phone runs awesome...to bad it's with att who just downright sucks. Plus the devs have prolly already unlocked it so they are prolly waitng to get more donations because it's become a profitable business, which I don't blame them. I would if I knew how....I just build stuff.
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I tried to like this phone , but could not... I was sick of the random reboots and overall sluggish feeling of this phone. I had Note 3 before this and what a mistake....Will get Note 4 in a few weeks.... It's been fun!!
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I have mine up for sale because of my issues with it. Had potential to be a great phone but to many buggy laggy areas
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No rebooting issues here. I will admit that my m8 outperforms the g3 (except for the camera). However, the note 3 that I received last year was a total disappointment. That was random rebooting nightmare. I guess it really depends on the specific device you get. Some may receive a subpar device.
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I have no idea what you're talking about! The note 3 is the best phone out right now. No reboots here at all. Ever. I had one issue on jellybean, the sleep/power button had some lag. But since I moved over to kitkat, that issue is resolved. The screen is sick! 5.7 inch, Super amoled, which is the best imo, 3gb of ram, 32gb internal storage, micro sd slot, usb 3.0. Need I say more? Lol. Now, I also love htc, is my first love. I used to hate samsung. That is until I gave the note 3 a shot. It changed my mind about samsung. And I tried the G3, but it wasn't for me. Ill stick with htc and Samsung.
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I dunno about all that. According to development updates in the bounty thread devs working on it are confident that they can unlock it, and that it's right around the corner.
I'm all for meaningful customization.. I imagine my g3 with the latest miui on it, that would be sweet... That said, this is the first phone I've been happy with as is. Debloated, greenify, g3 tweak box and the stock rom isn't all that bad.
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Cool. I hope I'm very very wrong. I know some devs have unlocks waiting but I guess I'm used to devs staying away if development on a new device isn't hot - which usually is in line with how popular a device is. I'm lost on why this is working out like this with the G3.
I'm really happy with stock too for once. I usually root, unlock, throw Nova on it and maybe go with a stock debloat deodexed or some variation of stock. I can't believe I'm good with the stock launcher ,de-carrieriq'ed + tweakbox. I'm not seeing any lag issues at all either. This thing is dusting my S5. I'm just happy that everything is working, radio being disabled and IR being hosed for 3rd party apps sucks a bit but that's minor.
I've finally gotten tired of dealing with all that I've had to deal with for having an android phone on VZW. I'm tired of having to hack a phone just to get it to work correctly and even then it wasn't a garauntee. Android you were fun while you lasted...been with you since Eclair was new
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Androids not the problem its Verizon. I think you just jumped out of the frying pan, if you went Apple. ?
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I've finally gotten tired of dealing with all that I've had to deal with for having an android phone on VZW. I'm tired of having to hack a phone just to get it to work correctly and even then it wasn't a garauntee. Android you were fun while you lasted...been with you since Eclair was new
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I thought Android was the darkside . My wife and I went to Best Buy on Friday for new phones. I have always purchased Andriod and she always get's an iPhone. My wife got a 6S which was just made available and I seriously considered getting one also. One thing about iPhones is that though they are locked down they just work and they work great. I have owned 3 Android tablets and 5 phones. It seems like I spend more time tweaking them with rooting and ROMs than using them. My wife never does anything with her phone but install apps and she never have issues. So after about 15 minutes with a patient young sales girl I ended up with the S6 anyway. I was lucky enough to get an OE2 firmware and I already rooted. But I'm seriously considering taking the latest update and get out of the rooting and ROMs hassle. I have about 10 days left to decide if I going to keep or return the S6. My main concern is the battery. I'm retired and I have a landline so I probably don't use my phone as much as most people here but I travel often and don't want to worry about running out of juice. So if the S6 doesn't pan out I'm leaving the darkside for an iPhone.
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Androids not the problem its Verizon. I think you just jumped out of the frying pan, if you went Apple. ?
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It may not be inherently an issue with Android, but the issues Android has on verizon are not present on Apple devices.
When Apple agreed to place the iPhone on VZW, Verizon had to give them sole control of their software. The only thing VZW does is the baseband and radio for their networks. Everything else is in Apple's sole control. There is no verizon bloatware, VZW can NOT add or remove any software or features, ie...Samsung pay....
I believe that many of the issues that Android devices suffer from stem directly from verizon putting their noses where they don't belong.
It's taken years for me to get to this point. I've owned numerous Android phones from all of the manufacturers, and it's truly been an enjoyable ride. But the increasingly difficult security coupled with vzw's encroachment into the software side of the house has driven me to get fed up with it all. I just want a phone that works....that doesn't suffer from horrible memory leaks, that has decent battery life, that isn't plagued with cell standby issues, and evidently going to the iPhone is the only reliable way to do that.
I like the S6. But it does have it's issues. The main one for me is battery life. This could be because they decided to shrink the battery down or from software flaws...ie cell standby, memory management, or bluetooth being enabled never allows the phone to go into deep sleep (this is a new one I started experiencing a few weeks ago). Plain and simple....I have owned the S6 since launch day and the battery life is terrible. I have yet to get through a half a day without needing to charge and that is just unacceptable to me. My fiance has had her iphone 6s since the 24th and has only charged it twice. With 3-4 hr on screen time a day and pandora running for about an hour a day.
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It may not be inherently an issue with Android, but the issues Android has on verizon are not present on Apple devices.
When Apple agreed to place the iPhone on VZW, Verizon had to give them sole control of their software. The only thing VZW does is the baseband and radio for their networks. Everything else is in Apple's sole control. There is no verizon bloatware, VZW can NOT add or remove any software or features, ie...Samsung pay....
I believe that many of the issues that Android devices suffer from stem directly from verizon putting their noses where they don't belong.
It's taken years for me to get to this point. I've owned numerous Android phones from all of the manufacturers, and it's truly been an enjoyable ride. But the increasingly difficult security coupled with vzw's encroachment into the software side of the house has driven me to get fed up with it all. I just want a phone that works....that doesn't suffer from horrible memory leaks, that has decent battery life, that isn't plagued with cell standby issues, and evidently going to the iPhone is the only reliable way to do that.
I like the S6. But it does have it's issues. The main one for me is battery life. This could be because they decided to shrink the battery down or from software flaws...ie cell standby, memory management, or bluetooth being enabled never allows the phone to go into deep sleep (this is a new one I started experiencing a few weeks ago). Plain and simple....I have owned the S6 since launch day and the battery life is terrible. I have yet to get through a half a day without needing to charge and that is just unacceptable to me. My fiance has had her iphone 6s since the 24th and has only charged it twice. With 3-4 hr on screen time a day and pandora running for about an hour a day.
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This is very true. I love Android, but I am sick of having to jump through holes just to get it to be clean. I hate how Verizon butchers everything and Samsung doesn't have the balls to stand up to them. Apple is able to do that. I have no hatred against Android nor iOS. I go by features that fit my requirements and the S6 has the best - Primary being the camera. However, I've noticed my photos have been blurry and the S6 can't decide what to do in low-light and doesn't use flash, which forces me to have people re-pose what should have been candid. I do believe the iPhone 6s will have the better camera (or at least he software to use the camera) and I would like to jump to it. It's just, the lack of IR, private mode (obviously just software), and battery life/fast charging, are big killers for me. Given the smaller battery and worse battery life, charging the damn thing is so slow. At least implement a fast charging feature and I can overlook my laziness of looking for my TV remote and privacy mode.
Bye. Please enjoy being told what you can and cannot install on your own phone!
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Bye. Please enjoy being told what you can and cannot install on your own phone!
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You do realize that Android / VZW do the exact same thing right? There is nothing that Android offers that Apple doesn't that's actually useful to me...I like widgets and such but I don't need them. And you know what? At least apple doesn't feel it necessary to force a hard warning about volume levels damaging my hearing...
Use to new able to remove that annoying little stuff via rooting/terminal emulator/ or romming.....well that's all but impossible now
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I can relate to what the OP is saying. I have had an android phone on Verizon since the OG Moto Droid. I enjoyed tweaking Android phones. I have the S6 64gb right now. I love certain features of the phone but it is flawed. I was hoping that the new Nexus phones would be great and they probably will. However I don't want to have to buy a phablet to get good specs and better battery life.
I just purchased the iPhone 6s for my wife. Were on vzw and I may switch myself. It is a struggle cause I don't know anything but Android.
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You do realize that Android / VZW do the exact same thing right? There is nothing that Android offers that Apple doesn't that's actually useful to me...I like widgets and such but I don't need them. And you know what? At least apple doesn't feel it necessary to force a hard warning about volume levels damaging my hearing...
Use to new able to remove that annoying little stuff via rooting/terminal emulator/ or romming.....well that's all but impossible now
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And I'd rather not be able to install apps that I may use occasionally versus having VZW for their crap products onto my phone and screwing it up in the process
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Bye. Please enjoy being told what you can and cannot install on your own phone!
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And please do tell me what's available on android that's not available on Apple devices? Other than gimmicks like widgets....which apple has kind of figured out a way to do those as well
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And please do tell me what's available on android that's not available on Apple devices? Other than gimmicks like widgets....which apple has kind of figured out a way to do those as well
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Haha enjoy your walled garden dude. I hope Apple approves of all the apps you want to install because you're not installing them otherwise. Maybe you don't have a problem with it but I hate being told what I can and cannot install. If I have to sit here and point out all the things you can't do on iOS that you can do on Android then you're better off with iJunk anyway. Have fun! Say hi to the "geniuses" for me. Once again, bye.
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Haha enjoy your walled garden dude. I hope Apple approves of all the apps you want to install because you're not installing them otherwise. Maybe you don't have a problem with it but I hate being told what I can and cannot install. If I have to sit here and point out all the things you can't do on iOS that you can do on Android then you're better off with iJunk anyway. Have fun! Say hi to the "geniuses" for me. Once again, bye.
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Still can't come up with anything? Face it dude....as time goes by they are getting to be more similar....
I love fan boys it's always hilarious
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Still can't come up with anything? Face it dude....as time goes by they are getting to be more similar....
I love fan boys it's always hilarious
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Oh you mean like the people who post about Apple in the GS6 forum just for attention? Just switch and leave. Change your iphone launcher or sideload an app. Maybe use NFC to initiate a macro. Activate your notification light with different colors for different apps... the list is endless. I'm not sure what you are looking for.
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Oh you mean like the people who post about Apple in the GS6 forum just for attention? Just switch and leave. Change your iphone launcher or sideload an app. Maybe use NFC to initiate a macro. Activate your notification light with different colors for different apps... the list is endless. I'm not sure what you are looking for.
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I'm far past the point in my life where I need to be validated by anonymous people on the Internet...chances are...judging by your behavior....I was using Android while you were still in elementary school. If you'd bother to have read my posts, you'd know that I've been using /hacking /flashing android devices since long before they became mainstream. Get over yourself
My post was meant for those users (who btw outnumber you in this thread) that may be in similar situations or experiences.
Changing my launcher? I don't even do that on android devices....too many bugs most of the time. Use NFC to initiate a Macro? I've done that, and it can make things a little more convenient. But I would rather use it to pay at the store. Something you can't do with the S6 because verizon has the android companies by the balls and just says "we aren't going to allow you have that feature" ...changing led colors? Really? Why even mention that?
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Bxrider117 said:
I can relate to what the OP is saying. I have had an android phone on Verizon since the OG Moto Droid. I enjoyed tweaking Android phones. I have the S6 64gb right now. I love certain features of the phone but it is flawed. I was hoping that the new Nexus phones would be great and they probably will. However I don't want to have to buy a phablet to get good specs and better battery life.
I just purchased the iPhone 6s for my wife. Were on vzw and I may switch myself. It is a struggle cause I don't know anything but Android.
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That's what I'm saying. I've been doing it for so long it's just become second nature. I miss the OG Droid....that was a tinkerers dream. After years of doing it though, I'd rather spend the time doing things that are more fun. In other words, I don't care about customization options or 3rd party apps anymore. I just want a phone that actually works and works well out of the box, not needing any intervention on my part other than picking it up and turning it on.
This most recent issue with my bluetooth not allowing my phone to sleep was the straw that broke the camels back for me. Could I fix the problem? Probably....do I want to devote the time to it? Nope....not anymore.
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Oh you mean like the people who post about Apple in the GS6 forum just for attention? Just switch and leave. Change your iphone launcher or sideload an app. Maybe use NFC to initiate a macro. Activate your notification light with different colors for different apps... the list is endless. I'm not sure what you are looking for.
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Don't see why you're bashing on what other people want to do with a freaking cell phone choice. You insinuating other people trolling here when you're the troll yourself. Get off your high horse and enjoy the phone that YOU have and let other people do what they want. You're not going to convince anyone talking crap on them. Get over yourself
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harrytery said:
Don't see why you're bashing on what other people want to do with a freaking cell phone choice. You insinuating other people trolling here when you're the troll yourself. Get off your high horse and enjoy the phone that YOU have and let other people do what they want. You're not going to convince anyone talking crap on them. Get over yourself
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Until recently you would have been hard pressed to find a bigger advocate for Android than me. There were always two features that kept me with Samsung...a removable battery and expandable storage. But when you remove those two features and basically make an iPhone clone you are going to lose on the software front. Especially when your hobbled by VZW and all the crap that they do to mess up a pretty good product.
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harrytery said:
Don't see why you're bashing on what other people want to do with a freaking cell phone choice. You insinuating other people trolling here when you're the troll yourself. Get off your high horse and enjoy the phone that YOU have and let other people do what they want. You're not going to convince anyone talking crap on them. Get over yourself
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Hey pot meet the kettle. I find it ironic how YOU (lol at that btw) brought absolutely nothing to the conversation except an attack on me. At least I brought facts into it along with my opinion. You're just a troll yourself.
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nateohio said:
Until recently you would have been hard pressed to find a bigger advocate for Android than me. There were always two features that kept me with Samsung...a removable battery and expandable storage. But when you remove those two features and basically make an iPhone clone you are going to lose on the software front. Especially when your hobbled by VZW and all the crap that they do to mess up a pretty good product.
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Yeah VZW could mess up a wet dream, that I cannot argue lol. Samsung I give credit to because at least they try change, for better or for worse, at least they try.
Eddie Hicks said:
I thought Android was the darkside . My wife and I went to Best Buy on Friday for new phones. I have always purchased Andriod and she always get's an iPhone. My wife got a 6S which was just made available and I seriously considered getting one also. One thing about iPhones is that though they are locked down they just work and they work great. I have owned 3 Android tablets and 5 phones. It seems like I spend more time tweaking them with rooting and ROMs than using them. My wife never does anything with her phone but install apps and she never have issues. So after about 15 minutes with a patient young sales girl I ended up with the S6 anyway. I was lucky enough to get an OE2 firmware and I already rooted. But I'm seriously considering taking the latest update and get out of the rooting and ROMs hassle. I have about 10 days left to decide if I going to keep or return the S6. My main concern is the battery. I'm retired and I have a landline so I probably don't use my phone as much as most people here but I travel often and don't want to worry about running out of juice. So if the S6 doesn't pan out I'm leaving the darkside for an iPhone.
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I have an S6 and the battery is a LOT better than I thought it would be. I use my phone CONSTANTLY for work everyday outside with the brightness all the way up and I usually make it home most days with a little juice left. I have a Mophie case on it everyday but rarely have to use it.
There both good operating systems it doesn't have to be one or the other yea a nexus is fun to flash the **** out of it but obviously Apple doing something right too it's more about Verizons locked bootloaders.
Anyone else considering selling their S6 for one of the new Nexus phones being announced on Tuesday?
I would consider giving up the camera for vanilla android and the ability to do what I want with my device. The lag from time to time I get on CleanRom is driving me nuts as of late as well.
I might consider it once I get a chance to see it in person. The lag on my S6 has gotten terrible lately and I'm not sure what is causing it.
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I might consider it once I get a chance to see it in person. The lag on my S6 has gotten terrible lately and I'm not sure what is causing it.
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Same here. Are you stock?
droidiac13 said:
I might consider it once I get a chance to see it in person. The lag on my S6 has gotten terrible lately and I'm not sure what is causing it.
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You might take a look at this. I think it could be wider scale than the S6.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62606917&postcount=3061
I tried it and it seemed to help. Could be placebo effect. I'm not sure how much service.jar's vary from phone to phone but I am on OE2. Here is a copy of mine. It goes in the system/framework folder.
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You might take a look at this. I think it could be wider scale than the S6.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62606917&postcount=3061
I tried it and it seemed to help. Could be placebo effect. I'm not sure how much service.jar's vary from phone to phone but I am on OE2. Here is a copy of mine. It goes in the system/framework folder.
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Thanks, will take a look at that.
Just wiped my cache and dalvik in flashfire and will see if that helps at all.
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Same here. Are you stock?
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Stock and rooted. I just can't believe how it is getting so bad. I was thinking about wiping it clean and taking the updates even. It's that bad.
Driving me crazy too. Phone is great otherwise. I do like me some vanilla Android though. That 6P even has one of Samsung's latest AMOLED panels. Nice. I'm going to wait a bit but I might end up selling my S6 and trying out that 6P.
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I ordered a 64GB 6P within 15 minutes of the official announcement. So cool as this phone can be, TouchWiz on an unrooted device is making the experience more and more annoying. Plus, with vzw dragging their feet and USAA still "evaluating" Samsung Pay, the remaining features aren't enough to keep me on board.
I ordered the 6p. Can't stand touchwiz or the lag.
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I like the new nexus and the moto x but I can't give up the ir blaster and fingerprint and samsung pay is going to be freaking awesome. I might look into buying a tmobile s6 or note 5 and flash a rom on it if it can be bootloader unlocked and work on verizon.
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I like the new nexus and the moto x but I can't give up the ir blaster and fingerprint and samsung pay is going to be freaking awesome. I might look into buying a tmobile s6 or note 5 and flash a rom on it if it can be bootloader unlocked and work on verizon.
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Note 5 will likely never get root
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I created a bunch of order for a 5x and kept canceling them cause I wasn't sure about it. After reading some of the threads in the 5x forum I'm glad I decided to keep the s6.
Seems like build quality is hit or miss, battery life is way less and tons of lag along with terrible video due to no ois.
I'll keep my s6 thanks.
I really like my S6. I'm rooted and I really love the camera. However, I want to be able to use Android pay or Samsung pay. I almost never carry cash and I always my credit card. I also want updates in a timely fashion.
After viewing some of the photos from the 6p, I'm excited to get the phone. My only hang up maybe with the size.
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Went with the 5x from my s6 and I'm really glad I did. Sure the camera and screen aren't quite as good, but I'm pretty happy with it. 1080p is plenty for a phone and with LCD I don't need to worry about burn in. So glad to be back in non locked down territory. It's pretty sad that even though the 5x has 1gb less RAM, it can hold more apps without redrawing them. If you're on the fence about switching, go for it. You can always return it to Google within 15 days if you don't like it.
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Went with the 5x from my s6 and I'm really glad I did. Sure the camera and screen aren't quite as good, but I'm pretty happy with it. 1080p is plenty for a phone and with LCD I don't need to worry about burn in. So glad to be back in non locked down territory. It's pretty sad that even though the 5x has 1gb less RAM, it can hold more apps without redrawing them. If you're on the fence about switching, go for it. You can always return it to Google within 15 days if you don't like it.
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I grabbed a Moto Maxx 2 using a trade in and got it for cheap and have enjoyed using it more than my S6 lately.
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