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Newbie issues with S200. Any advice appreciated.

Hi!
New to this forum and new to the wonderful world of Windows Mobile.
Coming from a palm-world where most things just tend to work, this has been somewhat of a reminder of the early Windows desktop days.
I'm having some issues (One of these issues made me choose this forum, if this was in error, I apologize in advance).
1. Active sync worked once, but never again.
It seems the mp3-files I added (251 of them), makes active sync just time-out in the media stage. I have not found a way to remove media from active sync either to confirm this. I cannot access settings since it times out with the sync. Edit: The media-row in the active-sync window also states that the installation has to be completed first. Which it already has.
2. Media player does not add files to library.
I do the file-search and it finds 251 files on the SD-card, makes a slight paus and finds 4 more files. Then it adds only those 4 files. accessing the storage card in the library and my music only produces an unexpected error. I have not tried to empty and reformat, or a lower file-count just yet. But to me this seems like a bug that not only scans the storage-card but also the device and then only adds what's on the device. What is added is 4 ring-tones.
3. A2DP...
Well, I read the instructions on the two threads dedicated to this, but it does me no good since I find no files in either of them. I am willing to host those files for you if needed by the way. I really want A2DP since I already got the Jabra BT-620s.
4. Not a real important one but, overclocking.
I ran the OMAP_TI_Overclock thingie, but absolutely nothing changes. Still 195 Mhz whatever I do. I find people have fall-backs in a few minutes or after reset, but this is immediate. The utility says it sets the clock and that the current clock has changed, but as soon as I go to the system-info it says 195. And starting the utility again it says it set as 180 (which according to the system obviously equals 195 ).
These are the current obstacles to overcome before I turn to media-control from the headset, and other more daily handling stuff that obviously already works fine (Voice-control, and contacts and stuff)
There was something more, but I forgot. I'll return to that. Now I'm off to the golf course hoping for some good advice to start pouring in...
Best Regards
Bo Eriksson

1. Buy a card-reader. They're cheap and save your nerves as AS 4.1 is EXTREMELY unstable comparing to 3.8 one
2. Dunno.
3. Try reading again. Works just fine
4. In the ABOUT info you'kk never see the change as it's not a monitor of CPU but the info contained like plain TXT. as for the program use action-set clock - and then action-exit. If you do load it before you turn Prophet off you'll see the clock is still in there

About #1:
Yes, I have several. More than I have computers actually, which is a lot!
Not that more helps in this case. I got my S200 Yesterday so I am really only starting out to get things going. This is just my initial small problems. I just find it frustrating that I cannot change what will be synced with Active sync until a sync is successfully completed, which is never. So We'll see how I solve that one...
About #4:
Is there a real system info utility around?
About #3:
I am sure it works fine. I just cannot find the needed files. They're nowhere around for download. At least not in the threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=43992&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=225
And:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=275438#275438
So if you know where they are (Especially the one talked about in the first thread), please direct me towards them.
Best regards
Bo Eriksson

1. I just mean uploading thru AS WAS ALWAYS laggy and still is unles you do upload small files.
4. Why would you want one, you just see it working faster.
3. I attached both files zipped for you.

Ok, I got A2DP working now, Great, and thanks. I didn't realize the files only were visible while logged in , yup real newbie-alert .
And I installed Resco Explorer to do things more easily.
What remains is the problem with my Media library.
I cannot fathom what's going on. It's like this. I have 221 files on the storage card, and the system has 4 on the device itself. It scans both and lists 225 as found, then it takes a good 3 minutes adding files. Then it reports 4 files added. And only the library on my device shows anything (The four ringtones) trying to access the storage card library only results in an error.
Still, I can just click any of the files in the explorer and it plays perfectly (now in glorious wireless stereo!)... So there's nothing wrong with the card and the files. It's just the Library update thingy that fails me.
Best Regards
Bo Eriksson

I solved the Media Library thing.
I started deleting albums and doing new updates, but still no luck even down to one single MP3. So then I remembered something someone said in a thread somewhere about the MSMETADATA folder containing the library, so I simply removed it from the storage card and updated the library again. Voila! Now it works!
From now on I will only add a smaller number of files at a time, doing new library updates...
So now it's only the Active Sync problem remaining.
I just can't get it to work anymore. I tried reinstalling it late yesterday, but no luck...
Best Regards
Bo Eriksson

Activesync - "exact" syncronisation?

Hi,
I won´t bore you with the complicated story that put me in this situation.
What I would like is this…
1. That the calender and tasks FROM the computer is exactly syncronised TO the smartphone.
With "exactly" I mean that if there for example are objects on the Smartphone that are not on the computer those should be removed. No objects, wheter updated later on the smartphone or not, should be taken into consideration.
2. The second thing I would like is the reverse, namely that the "Files" folders FROM the Smartphone i exactly (as described above) syncronised TO the computer.
Please be concrete in any advice I am new in the game, and the active sync help is not much of help
/Danne
Sweden

ActiveSync will not do this as it will *synchronise* your PC, and phone.
It sounds like you just want is one way synchronisation, something ActiveSync can not do.
Pumasoft's Intellysync used to do one way synchronisation, but I am not sure if it's available as a standalone desktop application anymore.
I am unsure why you need only one way transfer though, if yo uare away from your desk, and you make an appointment on the phone, why wouldn't you want this updated on your PC?
Also with the files, they should update both ways, nothing will go to the phone unless you change it on the PC, so that should already work as you require.

too bad... I guess you are shure about this.
Do you know why then it is possible in Activesync (Tools / Alternatives /)
too choose from what I want to syncronise in the:
Hermes / TyTN
VS.
The PC?
What is that function for, why is it splitted?
Ok, I will explain the background.
I exported outlook and what I didn´t know was that the things I had exported before would come back when I Imported outlook again (.pst - file).
So on my travel I was stuck with lots of information that was outdated.
(Pocket PC:n could not syncronise all the info I had so therefore the export to external harddrive.)
So I decided to temporarily use only the files and contact parts of outlook and then one way syncronise it the best parts of what I had on the Pocket PC vs. home computer outlook.
I have enormous amounts of information i outlook so it will be some work to get rid of the outdated info - and the outdated info is not always older than the updated.
/Danne

OK let me get this right.
Your PC is correct.
Your phone is outdated.
If this is right, then delete the activesync connection to your phone, and recreate a new one. When it asks you if you want to combine items, or overwrite them, just overwrite them, and this will replace everything on the phone with what is on the computer.

Yes that sounds like a good solution!
As said I am new and don´t know the how´s.
But first I will syncronise only contacts and files since these are the most updated on the Pocket PC.
But do you know why there is a split between sync between the Pocket PC and the Home PC? (tools / settings)
Should the settings be that all relevant things are checked on both units?
Thanks!
/Danne

I have to to to town for a while, will be back in a couple of hours.
/D

Even thou I erased the mobile from active sync and restarted the computer it had saved the files somewhere and I wasn´t given the option to erase what was on the mobile more than mediaplayers files.
Welll... there will be some work but..
End of story.
Danne

Notification Queue, fixing & cleaning HOWTO

This is version 0.1 of a guide I am putting together about the Windows Mobile Notification Queue. I don't really know which forum to put this in, so mods feel free to move it if you feel that General is not the best place - thanks.
WARNING: Follow the advice below at your own risk! Backup your device first before trying any of this! Messing with the Notification Queue can stop Activesync and other software working permanently if you screw up, which only a hard reset can fix!!!
### Preface ###
After calendar reminders (and other notifications) stopped working again on my HTC Universal running WM5, I decided to do some research into this so-called "Notification Queue" and find out what each entry did, which were causing problems, and which ones could be safely deleted.
There is very little information out there regarding the notification queue (and a lot of misinformation), so I have gathered up what I could and hopefully this will be the only post you need to read if you are having problems with alarms/reminders/notifications/etc, or just want to do some spring cleaning to speed up your device.
The Notification Queue is present on all WM2003, WM2003SE, WM5, and WM6 devices - both PDA's as well as Pocket PC phones. I don't know about the Smartphone, I don't think MemMaid works on those devices anyway, can any Smartphone owners comment?
Its purpose is to basically run tasks and activate alarms/reminders at scheduled times, particularly when the device is in standby or low power mode.
The Notification Queue is the cause of many problems/bugs such as alarms/reminders not working, or alarms going crazy when the device is rebooted, etc. It does not cause anywhere near as many problems on WM6, but WM6 users may still benefit from this information.
### Tools you will need ###
DinarSoft MemMaid. The 15 day free trial will be enough, or you could buy it. Other software exists that will do the same thing, but this guide will focus only on MemMaid.
Also some backup software like SPB Backup!
Firstly: Install MemMaid, but don't open it just yet. Disconnect your device from your PC so that Activesync is not connected, then you should also properly close/kill ActiveSync with your task manager so that it doesn't interfere with the queue by frequently adding new repllog.exe entries (perhaps this is not required, but I think it is a good idea anyway).
Secondly: Now open MemMaid, and click on the second tab which should be the Notification Queue. This is where you need to be.
### Entries in the Notification Queue ###
Duplicates: The first thing you should do is press the "Find Duplicate" button, and remove all duplicate notifications. This is safe to do.
"Blank" entries: These appear to be blank, but when you select them, they have lots of seemingly random hex letters and numbers. These are left over from old failed ActiveSync connections, and should be deleted.
repllog.exe: These are all added by ActiveSync, and are necessary for it to work correctly. There should only be a few (like 3 or 4) entries in the queue, all of which look different from each other. You can only safely delete ONE type of them, which is the type at or near the top of the queue that looks like this: Argument: /sched /remote /h 01 October 2007 - 16:48:56. Delete any of this type that have dates/times in the past, but leave the future ones alone. And definitely leave the other repllog.exe entries alone that appear further down in the queue!
CALENDAR.EXE: Delete all of these, don't worry they will be re-added in the proper order later on. A backlog of these are what causes most problems.
\Windows\clock.exe: Same as CALENDAR.EXE - delete all of them. Also the cause of many problems. If you do find any of these, after deleting them you should then turn off all Alarms in Start->Settings->System->Clock & Alarms.
\\.\Notifications\NamedEvents\xxxxxx: The SCRIPT ones apparently relate to the flashing screen notification type for your device, but they don't seem to cause any harm and I don't know enough about them, so don't delete these.
CALNOT.EXE | \\Windows\calupd.exe | clocknot.exe: Leave these well alone, unless you have some with dates/times in the past (at or near the top in MemMaid) AND there are also others of the same type in your queue with dates/times in the future (in the middle or bottom). If this is the case, delete only the ones in the past. If in doubt, leave it alone, unless you have a backup and are feeling adventurous!
\\Windows\sddaemon.exe: This is the Smart dialer service. There should only be 1 of these entries after you cleaned the queue of duplicates earlier, so leave this alone.
There will probably be some other entries not mentioned here caused by software you have installed, leave these alone also unless you have good reason to think otherwise.
At this point if you scroll to the top of your Notification Queue, the first few entries should all have dates/times in the near future, and nothing else in the queue should have a date/time in the past. So you have cleaned your Notification Queue, and now you only have one last step to perform
### FINAL STEP (important) ###
You can now close MemMaid. Open up your favourite file explorer, the WM5 default one will do but personally I prefer Resco Explorer 2007. Navigate to the My Device\Windows\ directory. There are a LOT of files in here, so it may be a bit slow.
Now you need to execute each of the following 3 files, only once and in this order:
clocknot.exe
calnot.exe
calupd.exe
It will seem like nothing has happened once you execute each of these, as they all run in the background and are very small files.
Then, close Explorer and perform an ActiveSync connection with your PC to make sure your calendar entries are properly registered on your device.
Now you should wait at least 5-10 minutes for your changes to be saved by the operating system, then you can perform a soft reset and any notification-related problems you were having previously should all be gone! (and your device may be a little bit faster too)

Hi sl9,
thank you for your post, I've found it very useful. I have frequent reminders problems on my Artemis and it's really pain for me to fight it almost every day and although I like my device I'm thinking of change it to other OS phone (Palm OS or Symbian) only because Microsoft don't care about clients.
I hope other users will add their tips in this threat so we could finally make our WM devices more stable and reliable.
For those who deleted to much from notification queue and their PDAs don't synchronize - there is "Recreate ActiveSync" feature in SKTools. I used it with good results so you could give it a try.

i have a problem with a duplicate:
every time i softreset i have a new duplicate of tmail.exe. how can i avoid this?

varvocel said:
For those who deleted to much from notification queue and their PDAs don't synchronize - there is "Recreate ActiveSync" feature in SKTools. I used it with good results so you could give it a try.
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Good advice, but if you follow this HOWTO correctly then it won't break ActiveSync. The repllog.exe entries are required by ActiveSync to work so just don't delete those (although you can safely delete 1 type of repllog.exe entry - see above)
LordDeath said:
i have a problem with a duplicate:
every time i softreset i have a new duplicate of tmail.exe. how can i avoid this?
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tmail.exe is Pocket Outlook, sounds like your version may be a little buggy. What OS are you using, WM2003(SE), WM5 or WM6? There is no tmail.exe entry on my HTC Universal running WM5. Check your Windows\Startup directory in file explorer, and if there is more than 1 entry of anything (especially anything that looks like tmail or outlook) then just delete the duplicate. What does this notification look like exactly, is there any other text besides "tmail.exe"?

Try SKtool Lite. Free and good to clean Notification Queues

sl9 said:
Good advice, but if you follow this HOWTO correctly then it won't break ActiveSync. The repllog.exe entries are required by ActiveSync to work so just don't delete those (although you can safely delete 1 type of repllog.exe entry - see above)
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Yes, I know that. Maybe I should write: if you unintentionally delete...
tmail.exe is Pocket Outlook, sounds like your version may be a little buggy. What OS are you using, WM2003(SE), WM5 or WM6? There is no tmail.exe entry on my HTC Universal running WM5.
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On my Artemis with WM6 there is no tmail.exe in NQ too, although I'm sure I saw this entry (maybe before upgrading to WM6).

Sian said:
Try SKtool Lite. Free and good to clean Notification Queues
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You could even buy full version. It's not so expensive and has unlimited free upgrades. They have unbelievable support. I wrote them 2 times and they send me advices after couple hours (last time it was Sunday
Good luck

Do you know what notification is this?
After soft reset I have always duplicates notifications (logs from SKTools):
Application: {635A02A8-E099-4E88-8797-2DDD7119C909}
Notify Type: 2
Event Status: 0
Event Type: 0
Arguments: (none)
Application: {635A02A8-E099-4E88-8797-2DDD7119C909}
Notify Type: 1
Event Status: 0
Event Type: 1
Arguments: (none)
Anybody knows from where are these entries?
Thanks

my ppc has windows mobile 6 with aku 0.3.0. i have looked a bit more:
a new tmail.exe duplicate is left into the notifcation queue every time, when my device automatically sends/receives mail for my pop3 gmail account. it was set to do it once a day and i changed it to manually and now i have no tmail.exe entries anymore.
but i have a new question:
i have five alarms for every day from monday until friday.
for each of this alarms i get a queue entry with "windows\clock.exe" and the correct time. so i have 5 queue entries for clock.exe.
but what does happen, when one of these alarm is ringing and i press "dismiss"? should it create a new entry for the same day in the next week immediately or does it leave only 4 entries in my queue?
because on my ppc it acts like in the last example:
the last time i deleted and added my alarms was last week on wednesday. so last week's thursday, friday and this week's monday is already gone. thuesday and wednesday from this week are left over and so i have only these two alarms in my notification queue.
will my ppc create new entries for the next week, if all the current alarms have been done, or should a new one be created immediately after an alarm has rung/rang/ringed, no idea ?
did you understand, what i mean? i ask it, because i don't know if my ppc has a bug or if it is working right.

I've setup SKtools to clean notification Queue every night while I sleep and so far my morning alarm has gone off as it should.
Embarrasing how M$ can deliver an os that can't even work reliably as an alarm clock...
(WM6 on Tytn)

jompao said:
I've setup SKtools to clean notification Queue every night while I sleep and so far my morning alarm has gone off as it should.
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I do the same, but there is one problem with this method - when NQ is corrupt SKTools will never run, because it is never called... On the other hand, when I've spoken with SK Software support yesterday they've told me they observed "not working reminders" problem only when there are about 100 bad entries in NQ, so cleaning it one a day should be enough.
Jompao - do you often use recurring reminders, have you third party today plug-ins like Pocket Breeze or SPB Diary? And how long have you your device?
jompao said:
Embarrasing how M$ can deliver an os that can't even work reliably as an alarm clock...
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I agree 100%. I'm sure people using Windows Mobile devices have significantly often heart attacks then others
Truly speaking I was seeking Symbian device for me only because NQ problems...

But why do they keep coming back?
Hi,
I've been using MemMaid to handle notification and alarm problems for a long time. I run it every night and at least once or twice daily, just to keep up with dupe notifications. I found the info in the first post of this thread extremely useful and informative and I learned a lot I didn't know about the problem. Many thanks.
But... after following the suggested procedure, the dupe notifications still keep coming back!!! Even before I could do the soft reset after resyncing the calendar with AS, 7 dupe notifications reappeared. Is this just another curse of the WM op system? Or am I the only one this happens to? And is there no permanent cure other than getting a new PPC device?

New version of pmClean
Hi,
There is a new version of pmClean here: http://www.pocketmax.net/_d/pmClean.arm.cab
Program has better cleaning algorithms and Autostart feature. I used 1.04 version and found it very useful so why not to try it (it's freeware - thanks PocketMax and especially Bruce).

Nehpets said:
Even before I could do the soft reset after resyncing the calendar with AS, 7 dupe notifications reappeared. Is this just another curse of the WM op system? Or am I the only one this happens to?
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Many people have issues with NQ (WM2003, WM5, WM6) so you are not the only one I stopped to synchronize my device with Outlook (actually I removed Outlook 2007 from PC - too many bugs for me) and now I have less problems with NQ.
Nehpets said:
And is there no permanent cure other than getting a new PPC device?
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Bad news - getting new Pocket PC is not cure - all three last Windows Mobile versions had issues with NQ. So getting new device could be a good solution, but device with other OS (Symbian?).

awesome info...here's another question...
i see some of the longer-range (5-6 weeks and more) events with the Notifications\NamedEvents folders...
however, the only ones in the near term listed are for later today...does it only work 1 day at a time? will it populate tomorrow's notifications at midnite?
thanks!

There is new (1.5) version of pmClean released - another improvements and autostart bug fix.

I'm glad some people have found this useful. Spring cleaning the notification queue can often save you having to hard-reset your device, and is a good idea even if you aren't having problems with it
One last thing about duplicate notifications: You don't need to clean these so often, once a day or more is probably overkill. I clean mine once every 2-4 weeks, which is enough to prevent any problems from reoccurring.
Also note that the advice in this thread will NOT "cure" the problem, it will not prevent duplicate notifications from happening in the future.

Notifications\Named Events\WLMScheduler_TimeChangeEvent
Notifications\Named Events\WLMScheduler_TimeChangeEvent
Anybody know if I can take this one out..Have no idea why WLM (which I think is Windows Live Messenger) should have anything to do with giving me a notification event.. Wondering whether I can take out . I rarely even use WLM Messenger to begin with!

Quick fix for alert problems
I wrote a small free application, that clears notification queue. It works fine for me. Can someone (who have alarm problems) run and check it as well.
Download
Thank you

Just tried your app, found 353 duplicate entry's or so.
Seems to be working fine so far after the Soft Reset.
I will have to wait till my next Alarm before I will know if it fixed my problem but either way, thanks for the app!
ActiveSync isn't broken nor does anything else appear to be broken.

Best app to sync phone to PC

I'm looking to switch sync apps. I've been using Titanium Media Sync (TMS) for awhile now, but the developer has never responded nor fixed a bug I've encountered. I am happy with the functionality of TMS, but the bug prevents me from realizing its capability. It's also discouraging that the developer has not responded to my repeated bug reports. Basically, I wish to automatically copy folders from my Samsung Galaxy Nexus phone to folders on the PC. Either WiFi or USB would be acceptable. TMS is totally automatic and updates the PC whenever it detects a change in one of the selected folders on phone eg, adding a pic to camera folder. I prefer to use the FTP communications protocol. Can anyone recommend an app? Thanks
Pete

flroots said:
I'm looking to switch sync apps. I've been using Titanium Media Sync (TMS) for awhile now, but the developer has never responded nor fixed a bug I've encountered. I am happy with the functionality of TMS, but the bug prevents me from realizing its capability. It's also discouraging that the developer has not responded to my repeated bug reports. Basically, I wish to automatically copy folders from my Samsung Galaxy Nexus phone to folders on the PC. Either WiFi or USB would be acceptable. TMS is totally automatic and updates the PC whenever it detects a change in one of the selected folders on phone eg, adding a pic to camera folder. I prefer to use the FTP communications protocol. Can anyone recommend an app? Thanks
Pete
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How about AirDroid?!

coolsandie said:
How about AirDroid?!
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Thanks. Looks like a very highly rated app, but I'm looking for something that automatically backs up selected folders on my phone to PC. I did just start evaluating FolderSync and it looks promising so far
Pete

I've been testing Foldersync and it initially looked promising. Unfortunately, it repetitively overwrites many files while syncing that haven't changed. This really slows down the syncs and makes it virtually unusable. Has anyone figured out how to solve this problem? One very nice feature of FolderSync is that it preserves the timestamp of files whereas Titanimum Media Sync (TMS) does not. TMS sets the timestamp of sync'd file to the time of the transfer.
Pete

I've now discovered that FolderSync cannot reliably maintain a backup schedule. Based upon this and the above I've disqualified it. The functionality of both Titanium Media Sync and FolderSync is acceptable, but the implementation leaves much to be desired. Can anyone recommend alternatives with similar functionality that work as advertised?
Pete

flroots said:
I'm looking to switch sync apps. I've been using Titanium Media Sync (TMS) for awhile now, but the developer has never responded nor fixed a bug I've encountered. I am happy with the functionality of TMS, but the bug prevents me from realizing its capability. It's also discouraging that the developer has not responded to my repeated bug reports. Basically, I wish to automatically copy folders from my Samsung Galaxy Nexus phone to folders on the PC. Either WiFi or USB would be acceptable. TMS is totally automatic and updates the PC whenever it detects a change in one of the selected folders on phone eg, adding a pic to camera folder. I prefer to use the FTP communications protocol. Can anyone recommend an app? Thanks
Pete
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just have a try with this.
http://db.tt/N2usFyPu
its myself Dropbox,
just signup we both will get extra bonus storage for lifetime.

I use Google Drive, basically the same as Dropbox, but with more Google account integration. I don't think either is better, really, it's just the one I used first.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2

I've discovered my problem with scheduling of FolderSync. It was conflicting with Juice Defender which turns off WiFi when screen off to save battery life. I enabled 'Turn on WiFi for scheduled syncs' within FolderSync and now scheduling seems reliable.
Unfortunately, I have no idea how to solve the issue where FolderSync overwrites a significant number of files that have not been changed on phone. For example with respect to the folder DCIM, FolderSync overwrites 199 files equal to 883 MBytes and takes 18 minutes on each sync even though no files were changed. Others have noted the same issue on the FolderSync forum. Until this issue is solved I can't consider FolderSync for backups. I'm using One Way to Remote from my Samsung Galaxy Nexus running Android 4.2.2.
Pete

i use Airdroid :fingers-crossed:

rewjang said:
i use Airdroid :fingers-crossed:
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Thanks, but we're looking for an app that runs on the phone that does the backup on a schedule or on file change. Airdroid seems to be a program that runs on your PC's browser.
Pete

duplicate sorry

Backup and Restore ALL Accounts on android

GOAL - a universal backup and restore solution that can take ALL device accounts and ALL their related passwords - back them up - and restore them to ANY version of android - including Phones, Tablets, and Emulators such as bluestacks, memu, nox etc. even from different android versions.
This is primarily to get all EMAILS - google - outlook - etc loaded into a new device *This is NOT for apps as there are plenty of solutions for apps already but none for ACCOUNTS
This software should basically have a database, preferably in an easy to edit CSV format - which would never need to change as it would always have ACCOUNT_TYPE,USERNAME,PASSWORD,RANDOM_DATA
-you could manually populate this via your computer or you could have the android software export it via coding magic. Maybe use a different format and have it load a spreadsheet or a different database type...
Importing would be trickier- you'd have to have a drop down asking questions like - What android version are you importing to- so that the code could be properly inserted...
I intend to ask for advice here and see what solutions you all have; I will edit this first topic to help others if a solution exists.
Some people spend 50 hours of labor installing hundreds of apps on their phone; each needing custom configured, many require having an Account to access data through the app.
What if you have to load 50+ emails into the phone; each of them having huge complicated passwords.
What if you are always buying new devices, changing roms and having to set this all up again?
=Some Solutions exist but none have worked for me.
1. Built in google 'set up new device' -
This only seems to work when you have reset your phone.. once the phone is active and you've actually used it -- there appears to be no way to turn this on and attempt to bring new accounts over...
q. How can you activate this after the fact?
If you have more than a few accounts on the device, say.. 4... maybe you have 20 or 40 email accounts loaded.. it is almost guaranteed to fail.
q. What causes it to fail? Is there any work around.
If you are on android versions too far apart its also likely to fail
q. Why? is there any work around.
*Here is a site with code related to the account transfer API; I'm not sure how accurate it is:
Account Transfer API | Android Developers
developer.android.com
2. Samsung Smart switch
This only copies ONE account - but it also does a fine job of moving text messages, SOME apps and other info over.
*Is there any way to get it to copy all email accounts; and other random app accounts to the new device?
3. Titanium backup - for non root and root.
I've played with this numerous times over the past 10 years and never successfully. I dont think it is capable of taking all accounts and backing up / restoring to different devices.
More to be added later.

Reserved for random info so I can update later;

One month later and no replies...
Anyone?
1. Is there any app on the planet that can do this - or close? ((samsung smart switch - sometimes - though it mostly fails -- Googles built in set up - which fails 95% of the time) - I know of no other solutions.
2. Is there any desire for this? have any of you been annoyed with the menial task of setting this stuff up again and again?

another month goes by.. now I have a new android tablet.. and guess what?
Samsung smart switch wont copy my accounts...
I cant seem to get the built in google 'set up device' to start == and I'm not looking forward to adding 50 email accounts and various other accounts into this manually.. thats gonna take ages...
Buying a new device every couple months.. is a grueling task when it comes to account transfers...
Nobody has any suggestions on a solution for this? I'm searching around randomly again and finding Nothing.

what is your concern?? reading your thread give me headache

I have the same issue. I am "bored" in getting another mobile because i have to setup from beggining soooo many things

IIRC then account details are stored in SQLite database named accounts.db, its location depends on Android version.
Wi-Fi passwords are stored in file named wpa supplicant.conf.

@jwoegerbauer thanks for the tip. using your filename I found a tutorial that listed the location as follows:
/data/system_de/0/accounts_de.db
I've verified this on Nox; my bluestacks still isnt rooted and it seems the phones I have with all email accounts loaded == are not rooted either== I'm going to need to find a workaround for that or make time to root bluestacks to get the account data out of it...
Problem is;
1 there are no passwords included here. Where are they? mine are all crazy long and I have no clue what they are... its very time consuming to manually input them via my password managing tool.
2 Once I export; and change the CSV into a spreadsheet to include all the other missing email /google accounts; how do I replace the accounts_de.db file on each device
3. Why isnt there an app that can do this already; lol?
EDIT
Titanium backup does have an 'accounts' export option that -sorta - works... problem is how picky the app is about using root plus super SU and refuses to work with Magisk (sometimes) or will constantly crash on (some) devices - or will fail to export/import unless you try (5 different file managers that can eventually figure out how to import their file type) - or is otherwise NEEDING root access to function...
Would be nice if a solution existed via ADB or simply in an un rooted device to do this; sorta like how google ''set up nearby device'' was supposed to work (and will; if you use only 5 or less accounts... but its also buggy and fails)

Any ideas on how we can export/import accounts?
Still no successful solution.
1. Notes regarding Titanium:
I've tried about 15 versions of bluestacks using android 4.4.2 and have had mild success with titanium to backup/restore =
however it seems to randomly restore less than all the accounts (missing a few different ones each time)
it also seems to randomly miss the google password tokens randomly =forcing me to log into 10% of the imported accounts with each restore.
It also seems to fail 100% when trying to restore a bluestacks 4.4.2 accounts file on to android 7 bluestacks; or nox / or memu
It has limited success importing into a proper non emulated tablet (again missing about 60% of the accounts randomly)
all in all Titanium doesn't appear to be a good solution.
2. Perhaps a direct edit of the Accounts DB file would be wiser;
I've attempted to export it a few times and am not sure yet how to edit it ...
HeidiSQL has errors when accessing the file
Oracle's sql developer is WORSE; most of the text is gibberish.
*Any ideas on how to edit this?
3. Other xda searches lead me to:
The google password isn't a real password. After first successful authentication, an Auth Token is downloaded to device which is stored in accounts.db.
From the Auth Token is impossible to guess the password.
So I guess I answered my own question on that... I was hoping the passwords were stored on the device database so I could import/export them via a text editor.
4.
*File manager for super users allows one to explore and edit (to a point) a sql database - but one can not add new entries; only edit existing entries.
one can only export to csv; not import.
so this is only a partial solution.
5. an open source XDA solution looks promising but will not work.
Each OnAndBackup version uses different file extensions that are not compatible between versions... so yuo can't backup one android version and restore to another.
OAndBackupX is a fork of the popular open source backup app for Android
Looking for an open source solution to backup individual apps and their data? OAndBackupX is a handy Android app for the job. Check it out!
www.xda-developers.com

Blombardo said:
2. Perhaps a direct edit of the Accounts DB file would be wiser;
I've attempted to export it a few times and am not sure yet how to edit it ...
HeidiSQL has errors when accessing the file
Oracle's sql developer is WORSE; most of the text is gibberish.
*Any ideas on how to edit this?
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In post #7 you were told it's a SQLite database. Hence use a SQLite browser.
Downloads - DB Browser for SQLite
sqlitebrowser.org

It appears that the art of editing the database file on this is more complicated than it should be...
1. Taking the old DB file from 4.4.2 with a million accounts loaded... -- Export the 'accounts' table into csv
2. taking the new DB file from 7.1.1 with one account loaded - delete existing and then import the old 'accounts' table -
Swap original .db file with new edited one...
and congrats you too have a bootloop...
Anyone know how to PROPERLY export / import the accounts information ?
The sql table otherwise appears the same.. but I'm by no means an expert on these databases so perhaps I missed something simple.
Can't wait to see what happens from nox to bluestacks to memu to real versions of android on multiple devices with multiple android versions...
There HAS to be a better way to do this.?
Edit: 20 plus hours and many weeks into this problem
delving deeper into Titaniums site they have a suggestion for use on emulators that I did not notice; I will try and report back.
12. I have an Android device that is x86 based, and rooted. Can I use Titanium Backup ?​
YES. Please ensure that you have a working BusyBox on your device and make the following changes in TB preferences:
enable the “Force use external BusyBox” option (under Troubleshooting) then hit MENU -> Reload application.

1. I've noticed there are two places for saved account info; I still have no success in getting my edited database to properly recognize in the emulator.
system DE on older 4.4.2
and
system CE on 7.1 (also has the DE folder)
2. No luck on titanium either.
a. I've tried making busy box work on the emulator; it pretends to install successfully but when running shell commands it doesnt seem to work; therefore the number 12 from Titanium FAQ is something I can't seem to accomplish either... so Titanium will not work yet; maybe due to the busybox fail.

Blombardo said:
@jwoegerbauer thanks for the tip. using your filename I found a tutorial that listed the location as follows:
/data/system_de/0/accounts_de.db
I've verified this on Nox; my bluestacks still isnt rooted and it seems the phones I have with all email accounts loaded == are not rooted either== I'm going to need to find a workaround for that or make time to root bluestacks to get the account data out of it...
Problem is;
1 there are no passwords included here. Where are they? mine are all crazy long and I have no clue what they are... its very time consuming to manually input them via my password managing tool.
2 Once I export; and change the CSV into a spreadsheet to include all the other missing email /google accounts; how do I replace the accounts_de.db file on each device
3. Why isnt there an app that can do this already; lol?
EDIT
Titanium backup does have an 'accounts' export option that -sorta - works... problem is how picky the app is about using root plus super SU and refuses to work with Magisk (sometimes) or will constantly crash on (some) devices - or will fail to export/import unless you try (5 different file managers that can eventually figure out how to import their file type) - or is otherwise NEEDING root access to function...
Would be nice if a solution existed via ADB or simply in an un rooted device to do this; sorta like how google ''set up nearby device'' was supposed to work (and will; if you use only 5 or less accounts... but its also buggy and fails)
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Thanks for the tip just used Titanium Backup to transfer accounts backup generated from one phone to another (using the generated backup files) both N916K rooted with Magisk version 23.0 (23000) without issues!

So is there any Progress or Solutions found yet?
A good thing would be to see all the accounts and then retype them manually if needed.
Else it would be much better to have something like Smart Switch.
Problem I noticed with SmartSwitch, when you try to transfer the Accounts. Samsung trys to grab and upload all the accounts to their server!! Why? I don't know, but it always asks for Internetconnection etc. ONLY when you want to transfer accounts, everything else works more or less.. some appdata not included sadly anyway.
Swift Backup doesn't seem to or did someone manage it to work with it?
Tipps and possible Solutions would be greatly appriciated.
It seems to be especially problematic with Android 12...

Hello, I'm having the same problem. I'm "bored" with obtaining a new phone because I have to set up so many things from scratch. real estate istanbul

A shame there still doesn't seem to be a good solution for this. TB only tries to backup the non-existent location, while the correct is /data/system_de/0/accounts_de.db
Manually moving just puts me into a bootloop, even after setting the correct permissions.

I dont know if this works, someone should test it.
GitHub - cluk33/android-multiuser-backup: A set of scripts to backup and restore apps and data of multiuser android devices.
A set of scripts to backup and restore apps and data of multiuser android devices. - GitHub - cluk33/android-multiuser-backup: A set of scripts to backup and restore apps and data of multiuser andr...
github.com

akhilkhan said:
I dont know if this works, someone should test it.
GitHub - cluk33/android-multiuser-backup: A set of scripts to backup and restore apps and data of multiuser android devices.
A set of scripts to backup and restore apps and data of multiuser android devices. - GitHub - cluk33/android-multiuser-backup: A set of scripts to backup and restore apps and data of multiuser andr...
github.com
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I spent hours trying to get the script to work, but it will not backup anything in A13. I even disabled DFE on the device and started it over to test.