OK, So I'm a loyal Nexus user, but I felt comfortable with my Nexus 4 so I decided not to upgrade at first. We're now into March, which means we're less than 12 months away from the Nexus 6, so is now the wrong time upgrade to the Nexus 5? There's been no discounts for the Nexus 5 yet so it's not as if I'd be saving money and with the rumours than the Nexus 6 will use an octa core, that could literally render the Nexus 5 worthless to many.
What do you think?
skezza said:
rumours that the Nexus 6 will use an octa core, that could literally render the Nexus 5 worthless to many.
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well that's not true. just because it has more cores doesn't necessarily mean much (+ it's a rumour) - definitely considering how much of a powerhouse the N5 is.
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That's a decision you have to make on your own man. In today's technologically driven world, that new, better, faster, sleeker device is always going to be "just around the corner." For me, the Nexus 5 is the best phone I have ever used. Have you seen the development forums (we have TWO by the way!!!! lol), there's enough ROMS for you to flash and play with for well over a year lol. If you feel you've outgrown the Nexus 4 and want something better, then go ahead and pickup the N5. If you're content with your N4 then I guess go ahead and wait..
Yeah, cause when a new phone comes out, your old one just stops working and gets useless
To be honost, i dont think any processor in the next 2 years will be much better than the one in the nexus 5. Its already powerful enough as it is.
I'd wait for the 6 personally. Only because its not much of a jump for me, 4 to 5.... same as s3 to s4 or HTC one to one 2...
Not jump enough to be out of pocket
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Depends on how much you can get for the n4 to me! Just got my nexus 5 and its whole lot better this time around(last one I had had that yellowish tint) I think is it especially if you live in a area that will get you lte speeds
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I would wait until either the Nexus 6 or the Nexus 5 is reduced in price. Google obviously reduced the Nexus 4 quite heavily at the end of its life-cycle and I would imagine they will do the same in the not so near future.
I purchased my N5 on Amazon. Brand new, I paid a total of $37.09 USD. I was eligible for my two year upgrade through Sprint. I'm not sure which carrier you have but I would say it's definitely worth checking out. Also check wirefly.
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Get the N5 now, sell the N4, then later get the N6 and sell the N5........
Waiting for a price cut from Google won't make sense in your case since what you care is being up to date. Why wait for a price cut if by then, the N6 will be 2-4 moths away and you will be in the same situation as right now (should I buy the 6 or wait for the 16 cores nexus phone 7:laugh
As galaxys said, sell N4 now and get the 5.
Or don't get the 5 at all because the Nexus 4 performs well on 4.4. and wait for the 6.
If you want a phone now, get the n5.
How much faster can any phone really get at this point? The n6 may get bigger benchmarks, but in the real world, where most of us live....how much quicker will it really seem in day to day use? For what you can reasonably do on a cell phone....I think "speed" has been about maxed. All phone companies can do now is work on other things. Battery life, cameras...etc....
I suppose the battery, camera and maybe storage might be slightly better on the N6...but for me, the n5 more than meets my needs for all those.
To each his own tho.
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Wait for the Nexus 6. The reason I got the nexus 5 was because I came from the Nexus S. It's a 3 generation upgrade for me
Do what @galaxys said.
the n6 will probably be out by the end of this year if not then at the beginning of 2015
Imo the N5 is overall a better device than the N4; better cpu, gpu, speaker and a gorgeous screen. I wouldn`t want to have missed it personaly. We`ll see what the N6 will bring in about 8-9 months
Interesting juxtaposition of opinions here, some people saying get the N5 others saying wait for N6. I think I might just go for the N5 and sell this one to my old man, after all, by the time the N6 comes out, the N4 will be two generations behind. I think the biggest thing I miss right now is 4G. I don't get it where I live, but I do get it where I work, well, I could, but I don't because I'm on an N4. Currently, the N4's still sell for up to £170 (16gb of course) depending on condition and age. That's going to drop significantly when the N6 comes out. Mine's a minter, always kept in a case, always had a screen protector, and is only a few months old as I had to return my last one under warranty due to a faulty screen, so he's said he's willing to pay £170. Plus, keeping it in the family means he can still enjoy the warranty protection and I can always sell my mums phone and get a few more quid, as she'll no doubt get my dads S2 (which is still a damn good phone).
From all the speculation, there's very little I can see on the N6 that is actually that attractive. Octa core I get that, but fingerprint unlock? Meh. It's not as though Apple's has set the world alight. What I will say is that from now on, if I see a Nexus device and decide that's a good option, I will buy it, as opposed to wait like I did with the N5.
Thanks everyone
rootSU said:
same as s3 to s4
Not jump enough to be out of pocket
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How is it not a big jump? The s3 had a 1.5ghz dual core cpu and 1gb ram, and the s4 sports a 1.9ghz quad, with 2 ram (not to mention the 108 19th resolution display)
The jump from s3 to s4 was pretty significant if you ask me.
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How is it not a big jump? The s3 had a 1.5ghz dual core cpu and 1gb ram, and the s4 sports a 1.9ghz quad, with 2 ram (not to mention the 108 19th resolution display)
The jump from s3 to s4 was pretty significant if you ask me.
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I just don't see it as enough of a jump to be worth losing money on.
If I am in a contract where I am paying £35 a month for SIM and handset, for 24 months and after 12 months, I want the S4, I have to sell the S3 for half of the cost of the S4, find the other half the cost of the S4 AND still pay the £20 of the £35 a month for the S3 that I no longer own, I don't see the S4 being "worth it". Does it represent that much of an improvement? I don't think so.
It's purely subjective.
Slightly unrelated but it doesn't matter what hardware Samsung put in their devices, they all lag just as much
I've just upgraded from a nexus 4 also. The 4 had tons of life but no LTE. I will keep this for two years. With a decent kernel it's one hell of a phone I'm proud to have
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I just don't see it as enough of a jump to be worth losing money on.
If I am in a contract where I am paying £35 a month for SIM and handset, for 24 months and after 12 months, I want the S4, I have to sell the S3 for half of the cost of the S4, find the other half the cost of the S4 AND still pay the £20 of the £35 a month for the S3 that I no longer own, I don't see the S4 being "worth it". Does it represent that much of an improvement? I don't think so.
It's purely subjective.
Slightly unrelated but it doesn't matter what hardware Samsung put in their devices, they all lag just as much
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Yup ....I'm done with Samsung. Touchwiz is horrible and it takes a lot of work to make them smooth and lag free. I'm doubting roots future on new ones also. No root on a Samsung would be a nightmare. Lol
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I noticed the current Galaxy Nexus is 350$ which is a *great* deal on a fairly recent no contract device. (Was 400$)
The Nexus 7 is 200$ base price.
So, I am wondering if maybe the next generation of Nexus phone(s) could possibly launch in the 200-300$ range. While I may just be a little to hopeful, it doesn't seem like the antenna should jump the cost of a device that drastically.
So, what does XDA think? Would a sub 400$ phone have enough quality at launch? Or would they have to cut to many corners to make a device worthy of the "Nexus" name for phones? I would gladly pay an extra 150$ ish (around 350$ total) if it mean avoiding using an upgrade and getting locked back into a contract while getting relatively high end specs that (should) stay up to date for at least 2 years. Plus I would get to straight up bypass the manufacturers while getting almost guaranteed dev support.
It took almost a year for the gnex to reach that price, so yeah almost a year after the next nexus launcher, you will probably see a substantial price decrease.
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It took almost a year for the gnex to reach that price, so yeah almost a year after the next nexus launcher, you will probably see a substantial price decrease.
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Pretty good point.
I was more thinking about the nexus 7 launching with a tegra 3 and 1 gig of ram at 200$ range. Those are some pretty impressive specs for the cost. I am not trying to knock the nook tab or the kindle fire.. but, for 200$ if you want a tablet that doesn't require tweaking or much effort.. You're getting an extra 2 cores + stock jellybean.
While the Galaxy Nexus may have launched for more the price has dropped before it even saw a successor. A lot of phones will only drop in price once a successor has been released.
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Pretty good point.
I was more thinking about the nexus 7 launching with a tegra 3 and 1 gig of ram at 200$ range. Those are some pretty impressive specs for the cost. I am not trying to knock the nook tab or the kindle fire.. but, for 200$ if you want a tablet that doesn't require tweaking or much effort.. You're getting an extra 2 cores + stock jellybean.
While the Galaxy Nexus may have launched for more the price has dropped before it even saw a successor. A lot of phones will only drop in price once a successor has been released.
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True, but the Galaxy Nexus with "worse" specs is still $350, phones are just priced differently.
I think the depreciation of price on samsung's devices is quite a lot. There is no point buying straight away anymore. Wait few months and you have a bargain.
The Nexus tablet is price controlled by Google to help make it even more attractive. I doubt they'll do the same with the next Nexus phone, but it will help drop the price of the Galaxy Nexus even more. Google and Sony seem to be the only ones who want to offer reasonably priced new-in-box devices.
I've been tracking S4 prices of ripbay for a while and having been shocked to see they've fallen very quickly over the last 8 weeks. In the UK you couldn't pick up a S4 for under £350 8 weeks ago, now £310-£320 is common and I've seen phones go as low as £275.
Is this because people are trying/moving to the iphone 5 I wonder?
If sammie got their finger out and started shipping the i9506 with larger memory it could help popularity again......
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it's probably because of the note 3. also other makers too but i would think the iPhone has the least effect. no one's excited about the 5s this year like it was last year
btw i think you should look at phones more like computers where you don't need to upgrade every 2 years anymore. that's how comps were in the 90s but now ive had my laptop for 7 years before replacing it. the mobo burnt and i want to play gta5 when it comes to pc
with this phone, the only reason to upgrade is camera quality will be better in a few years
Uhh, the S4 was released end apr/may, so 8 weeks ago the phone had only been out around 2 months? Now it's been about 4-5 months.. So used phones being sold now are probably 'more used' than they were 8 weeks ago. Not surprised they're getting cheaper.
Also I'm guessing that people who wanted the s4 when it first came out more or less have gotten it by now, so less demand = lower prices.
The main factor as to why the S4 is dropping so quick is because, newer faster smartphones are about to be released such as the G2, Z1, Note 3 ect.
Plus S4 is now considered old tech in smartphone terms, hence why it's dropping in price so quickly, and it's retail price as also dropped considerably since it was released back in late April.
If you go back to the S2 days that held it price right up to the point the S3 was released, simple because at the time there was nothing out from anybody else that could touch it, I got best part of £300 for my S2 that was a year old, there is no way on earth i'll get that next year for my S4, when the time comes to getting shut for the S5.
Just way things are now with Android Smartphones.
Yeah I've seen the same as well, I'm going to try and get about £350 for it now and just wait for the nexus 5, was really disappointed by this phone
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Whats the lowest you have seen for Galaxy S4 I9505 new? I still dont see them at that price unless you go second hand....
Pretty sure that brand new prices dropping equals used price dropping...
Why is OnePlus using this invite system? I honestly don't see the logic behind deliberately limiting the amount of people that can give OnePlus money. Also, is this invite system going eventually go away and open the phone to the public or will it forever be an invite-only phone?
Probably because the supply cannot meet its demand. So they have a invite system to cause hype, free marketing until they their supply can meet the demand. Plus at the price of $349, they aren't making much profit on the phone.
But I agree, get rid of the invite system and get the phone in people's hands before the specs become outdated to other flagship devices. They're here making customizable covers and whatnot, who cares.. just get the phone out to meet its demand.
The OPO is dead meat once the Nexus 6 comes out in 2 to 3 months.
The Nexus 6 will cost around $349, have newer next gen hardware, and come with Android 'L' out of the box. And with the Nexus 6, you will be able to actually, really purchase the phone, for real.
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The OPO is dead meat once the Nexus 6 comes out in 2 to 3 months.
The Nexus 6 will cost around $349, have newer next gen hardware, and come with Android 'L' out of the box. And with the Nexus 6, you will be able to actually, really purchase the phone, for real.
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I doubt the OPO will be "dead meat." There is no serious next gen hardware unless it ships with Snapdragon 805.
OPO will still be a good phone regardless and its hard to pack that much in a $349 phone especially coming from a popular manufacturer such as LG/Samsung/HTC. OPO will have Android "L" regardless.
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Zorachus said:
The OPO is dead meat once the Nexus 6 comes out in 2 to 3 months.
The Nexus 6 will cost around $349, have newer next gen hardware, and come with Android 'L' out of the box. And with the Nexus 6, you will be able to actually, really purchase the phone, for real.
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Have you ever tried to buy a Nexus phone on release?...
Plus I doubt that Nexus 6 will have 805...
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Have you ever tried to buy a Nexus phone on release?...
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Yes. I have owned the first four Nexus phones, and all but the Nexus 4 were easy and fast to get. I got the Nexus-One the first week it came out, I got the Nexus-S at T-Mobile Best Buy the morning it was released immediately, I ordered the Galaxy Nexus online the 2nd week it was out, and got it the week after, and the Nexus 4 was a pain, was sold out the first two months, and was impossible to find, but by the third month they had better stock and I got one. I did not get the Nexus 5, because the crappy battery life, and I was pissed Google didn't keep the 3,000mAh battery from the G2 which the phone was based off.
My point being, all those Nexus phones were fast and easy to get, except the Nexus 4, but that was turned around by the third month. Where as the OnePlus One has been out for 3 months now, and still impossible to find, and the phone is still not available for purchase, you need this ridiculous "invite" which just blows my mind away any sane company would try to market a product this way. How bout make a website with a purchase button and shipping date, and let me buy it and get it 3 days later, not wait for some stupid invite, that just turns me away.
OPO really screwed up here, or purposely fooled everyone, not sure which is true ? How could they not know a phone with $700 flagship specs, but only selling for half that at $350 wouldn't be a smashing hit, and very hot seller ? They should have been more prepared, at least expecting this OPO to sell like a Nexus phone, quantity wise. I think they had 120,000 forum members at launch, that were all wiling to buy the phone, but only originally released like 5,000 phones at launch, and then like 7,000 later, and several thousand more, but WTF that's extremely low quantities, a joke actually.
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Plus I doubt that Nexus 6 will have 805...
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I bet it does.
Everyone says this every year about the upcoming Nexus, no way it will have flagship hardware at the cheap price they sell the Nexus phones. But every year it does.
Last year everyone expected the Nexus 5 to have the Snapdragon 600, to match the then flagships; Galaxy S4 and HTC One M7, but the Nexus 5 came with the brand new next gen Snapdragon 800, besting those two flagships, and still selling for half their price.
My prediction for the Nexus 6;
- Announced in October / released in November
- Price of $400
- Snapdragon 805
- 3GB RAM
- 2600mAh - 2900mAh battery
- 5.2" to 5.5" Screen
- Maybe a 1440p screen, but most likely 1080p
- Made by either; Asus, HTC, or Sony
So, I've never sold my phones before, but the thing is, I really want to move over to the phablet side of things, and I want to get the note 5. The Note 5 is slated for a q3 release. My upgrade is due already (have a HTC m7) and since I pretty much put my HTC out of commission, I'm using my Blackberry from like 2009 as my current phone.
Main question is, If I buy the s6 and sell it in like 5 months tops, what would I get for it?
It's hard to say to be honest. Since they'll be a lot of S6 devices sold the resale value is likely to be lower, like other Galaxy devices in the past. Supply and demand after all.
On the other hand the build quality is much better than previous devices and it's likely to be higher than previous years.
I'm in the same boat as you, I am intrigued by the S6, and possibly the G4, but I know the Note 5 will likely be even better.
Both are great devices (Note 4 lollipop update killed my battery life). As someone who has gone from phone to phablet then back again, I can tell you that selling your galaxy phone on ebay, CL etc can be pretty disappointing. If you pay full price today, in 6 months you could probably pull $350 selling it... at least that's been my experience. Either way, good luck, and the GS6 has been great for me so far so you can't go wrong there.
I would agree with the above post. I am guessing that in 6 months you'll probably be able to get 350 to 450 for the GS6. That's really not bad, but you'll be paying about 200 for using the device for 6 months.
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Yep all the above post are accurate the note probably holds the most value of any android phone. Truth is because of so many releases android phones don' keep value well, in about 2 month you'll start seeing s6 pop up used for around 450-475 probably by the fall when the note 5 comes for a mint condition s6 32gb you'd get about 400 probably
So im thinking abut upgrading to the nexus 5x or 6p. However im very undecided at the moment. I ordered the 5X (32gb) and twenty minutes later canceled the order and went with the 6p (64gb aluminum). Now after looking through the nexus 6p forums i canceled that order as well.
From what i have read the nexus 5x lags and and nexus 6p has some display issues and reception issues.
and i really don't want to deal with either of those things. My nexus 5 has been great for the two years that i have owned it , i did have issues with the power button but that was fixed by LG.
So i don't know what to do , do i wait or just say forget it and order the Nexus 6p which would seem like a true upgrade. The phablet size and issues listed above are my main concerns lol
There are several reasons why I still own a Nexus 5. IMO it's not worth the upgrade until Snapdragon 820 and an acceptable pricing policy (euro zone).
My Nexus 5 has the perfect screen size, is fast and is running the latest available Android version.
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I would get / keep the nexus 6 2014.. It's a beast phone that I use everyday.. Runs stock 6.0.1 marshmallow.. And is fast as the 6p when first nothing installed... Snapdragon 810 for 2.7ghz Quad Core so no lag.. And 3gb ram for multitasking... And 3450ish mAH for all day heavy usage.. The new ones are priced really high. But the nexus 6 its 300 rn.. So not a good idea to upgrade rn bro
Thanks for the replys, I decide to stick with my nexus 5 for a bit longer. As tempting as the pricing is $499 for 64gb 6p and 379$ for the 32gb 5x.. Don't want to give or sell my nexus 5, and feel like it would be a waste to have it as a backup phone just yet. Lol
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i've decided to hold off getting a new phone for now.
can't fault my nexus 5 with cataclysm.
nothing really seems like much of an upgrade.
got a spare almost brand new nexus 5 with a borked wi-fi chip that was my dad's so if i need spares i will butcher that
and hopefully hold out til 3rd quarter 2016 for a new nexus
jenreban said:
i've decided to hold off getting a new phone for now.
can't fault my nexus 5 with cataclysm.
nothing really seems like much of an upgrade.
got a spare almost brand new nexus 5 with a borked wi-fi chip that was my dad's so if i need spares i will butcher that
and hopefully hold out til 3rd quarter 2016 for a new nexus
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I just purchased a used Nexus 5 and I'm totally satisfied with both the aesthetics and performance. It is still a versatile phone in 2015, and for the price of a used unit, it is much better than most mid-range devices in the same price range. Also I love the updates and the ton of custom roms to play with