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Are smart phones going down in price faster than they did a couple of years ago?
I can buy a samsung s2 for $540 on amazon.com when it's on sale. The s2 is not even a year old, if I'm not mistaken.
I'm pretty sure when the HTC HD2 was released, it took alot longer to go down in price.
And some people are saying they bought the samsung galaxy note for $700 - 760, even before it was officially released.
So following this trend, can we expect to have top of the line quality smartphones for $300 or less within 5 years?
They go down faster in price now because they are releasing more faster.
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Way too much and too fast
Slow it down htc
In a few years, I can see $300 models being more than enough for most people. They will still sell top of the line models for $700-800, but fewer people will buy them.
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Are smart phones going down in price faster than they did a couple of years ago?
I can buy a samsung s2 for $540 on amazon.com when it's on sale. The s2 is not even a year old, if I'm not mistaken.
I'm pretty sure when the HTC HD2 was released, it took alot longer to go down in price.
And some people are saying they bought the samsung galaxy note for $700 - 760, even before it was officially released.
So following this trend, can we expect to have top of the line quality smartphones for $300 or less within 5 years?
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The S2 is actually *months* old and you can find it at about 410€ on many sites. Anyway, i really don't uderstand why people complain about this: it's a phone, not a share, the least it costs the better. Does it make sense that the totally outdated iPhone4 still costs 700€? How is that good for you unless you wanna sell it? If you want bleeding edge technology then you have to live with the fact that your toy will have its price dropped soon, regardless what you paid for it. Imho phones are meant to be used, and not to be sold, so i'm really happy about what's going on on the android platform. As a power user i care about my SPECS not being reasonably up to date, the price doesn't really matter to me anyway. To make it clearer: i don't upgrade my GPU every time a new one comes out just for the sake of being up to date, i do that when my rig can't stand the current games or a particular game i wanna play anymore, and when i do i'm happy if i can find one at a lower price.
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The S2 is actually *months* old and you can find it at about 410€ on many sites. Anyway, i really don't uderstand why people complain about this: it's a phone, not a share, the least it costs the better. Does it make sense that the totally outdated iPhone4 still costs 700€? How is that good for you unless you wanna sell it? If you want bleeding edge technology then you have to live with the fact that your toy will have its price dropped soon, regardless what you paid for it. Imho phones are meant to be used, and not to be sold, so i'm really happy about what's going on on the android platform. As a power user i care about my SPECS not being reasonably up to date, the price doesn't really matter to me anyway. To make it clearer: i don't upgrade my GPU every time a new ones comes out just for the sake of being up to date, i do that when my rig can't stand the current games or a particular game i wanna play anymore, and when i do i'm happy if i can find one at a lower price.
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Totally agree. Anyway you should consider that a trend is a trend. No matter what. Stupid people will pay a lot of €uros just to get themselves realized and soccially accepted. Silly ones.
But its not nice for the people which bought the phones early... and sometimes even are early adopters or better beta testers...
Yeah i bought mine early and now its way cheaper haha next time i know to just wait
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Yeah i bought mine early and now its way cheaper haha next time i know to just wait
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That's the point: complaining makes no sense at all...once you understand that androids aren't the kind of phones (especially Samsung ones) to buy on the day they are released you're just fine. I waited a few months before getting my GS2, so i was able to find it at the price of 490€ in August. All in all it was a good bang for the buck i think: i don't care if we get quadcores in 2012, i wanna enjoy my phone NOW, whatever i choose, and possibly at a reasonable price.
With more competition, Android ICS on the horizon and more frequent releases prices will continue to go down.
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That's the point: complaining makes no sense at all...once you understand that androids aren't the kind of phones (especially Samsung ones) to buy on the day they are released you're just fine. I waited a few months before getting my GS2, so i was able to find it at the price of 490€ in August. All in all it was a good bang for the buck i think: i don't care if we get quadcores in 2012, i wanna enjoy my phone NOW, whatever i choose, and possibly at a reasonable price.
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wow, are people really complaining? This is a really exciting time for phonophiles!
Always an exciting new phone on the horizon. And the prices keep on dropping faster and faster. I have my eye on the Galaxy Note right now. And I know if I can wait a couple of months, the price will drop drastically, and there will probably be an even better phone released by then. And so many accessories to go with each phone!!
Now that i have a decent phone in the share of a galaxy s2 i know that i would not be in too much of a rush for a phone upgrade time. Before i had a wildfire which i hated so wasn't wanting to wait too long for a phone and my upgrade was due at release.
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Note 3 launched in September at around £600, I bought mine last week brand new for £429 sim free from Scan only 3 months after launch, it seems a couple of places are selling the Note 3 for under £500 aswell, why has the price suddenly dropped so much?.
I had a iPhone 5S 32GB prior to the Note 3, as i wanted to give iOS a try, after being with Android for years, but my love affair with Apple didn't last long and it was sold & only loosing £50 when i sold it, which paid for both the Note 3 & a Moto G 8GB.
With the price dropping like it is, it doesn't bode well for resale value next year, as I'm one of those that like to sell my handset to paid towards the next latest & greatest, which will either be the S5 or Note 4, probs more likely the Note 4 now.
Samsung phones always drop in price very quickly. .. especially compared to iPhone.
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Note 3 launched in September at around £600, I bought mine last week brand new for £429 sim free from Scan only 3 months after launch, it seems a couple of places are selling the Note 3 for under £500 aswell, why has the price suddenly dropped so much?.
I had a iPhone 5S 32GB prior to the Note 3, as i wanted to give iOS a try, after being with Android for years, but my love affair with Apple didn't last long and it was sold & only loosing £50 when i sold it, which paid for both the Note 3 & a Moto G 8GB.
With the price dropping like it is, it doesn't bode well for resale value next year, as I'm one of those that like to sell my handset to paid towards the next latest & greatest, which will either be the S5 or Note 4, probs more likely the Note 4 now.
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yeah sammys resale is always crap i do what you do sell the phone for the next one,back in the days of iphone the resale was great
because Samsung is not Apple. a Samsung S-view cover costs more than a cheap indian tablet with a 1Ghz processor, webcam Android 4 and decent looking
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506€ now in greece ?
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Because all lose it's price.. cars.. pc.. all.. the time of life of a phone is 1 year.. over that it won't be produced, and price goes to 1/2 of the initial..
Iphone is the ONLY ONE "CHEAP" PRODUCT witch doesen't decrease it's value.. why? Because people are stupid and pays an higher price only to have a phone..
When i traded in my S2 for a S3 resale value on the S2 was still very good at the time, if i had sold it i would have gotten more.
It seems since the S3 resale value on all Galaxy phones have really taken an hit, those with a S4 that plan on selling next year for the S5 will probably get next to nothing for it being only a 16GB device.
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Because all lose it's price.. cars.. pc.. all.. the time of life of a phone is 1 year.. over that it won't be produced, and price goes to 1/2 of the initial..
Iphone is the ONLY ONE "CHEAP" PRODUCT witch doesen't decrease it's value.. why? Because people are stupid and pays an higher price only to have a phone..
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This of course is the top reason :laugh:
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When i traded in my S2 for a S3 resale value on the S2 was still very good at the time, if i had sold it i would have gotten more.
It seems since the S3 resale value on all Galaxy phones have really taken an hit, those with a S4 that plan on selling next year for the S5 will probably get next to nothing for it being only a 16GB device.
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The actual reason might not be so much the specific model, but instead the sheer volume of those devices - Samsung made at least twice more S3 devices (most of those sold very early) than S2 (which still saw a lot of later models for other markets, but those were already re-positioned clearly below the original top-level price).
€470 in Germany,
€687 in Netherlands
And people wonder why I don't buy my hardware here?
Anyway, prices always drop rather quickly on nearly all devices after a few months. Apple being the exception because they know they can ask 100% even after two years and their customers are stupid enough to pay it. They pay it for a 'new' device, too. Even if it's identical to the last 3.
Probably because of knox.
Lest you forget,ppl buy samdung's fone so they can install custom rom to utilise their great hardware.
with knox,tripping it will void warranty(and resale value) and stock TW is full of bloatware lagging the phone like a snail.
samdung's note3 with knox and no way of removing it,is akin to apple telling u how to hold ur phone for a better reception.
very soon,they are going to lose more customers thanks to knox.
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Probably because of knox.
Lest you forget,ppl buy samdung's fone so they can install custom rom to utilise their great hardware.
with knox,tripping it will void warranty(and resale value) and stock TW is full of bloatware lagging the phone like a snail.
samdung's note3 with knox and no way of removing it,is akin to apple telling u how to hold ur phone for a better reception.
very soon,they are going to lose more customers thanks to knox.
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Knox has nothing to do with it, 99% of people that buy Samsung smartphones don't care if it has Knox or not most probably don't even know what it does or even know it there.
You could trip the Knox 0x1, and still sell it on as normal, as most buyers won't even notice it as they don't go customizing or use it's security features.
It won't drop anymore now until the Note 4 and even after it's release for a little.
Samsung phones always come very expensive, reduce to a lower price (but still expensive) after a few months and stay there until they are discontinued.
I bought mine for 500eu new in Belgium.
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In Singapore.
It was £475.00 back in September.
It is now selling at £412.00. Since November.
I guess that the market is now flooded with millions of Note 3, thus the price dropped.
It is good for the consumers. So, I don't care a **** because I bought a phone to use it and not to worry about its resale value in the future.
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Fun and sad fact is I can never sell my phones, I feel bad and just put them on my desk to be remembered
Hey! Also bought mine from Scan UK via their eBay store (by the way, never buy from SimplyElectronics, don't be tempted by the cheap prices).
Been using it and can see myself using this device for at least a year and a half. I tend to swith to new one every year. Upgrading from a Nexus 4.
Now regarding the price drop, several factors to take into consideration:
* This is Samsung. They can afford to drop the price, and still grab marketshare and get a profit.
* The holiday season!
* Knox
I'm very happy with the phone. It's the best long lasting device I've had since the Nokia days of Symbian, and boy does USB3 charge this baby fast!
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€687 in Netherlands
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BS, €520 in the Netherlands, brand- and simlockfree. When you don't believe me here Tweakers price survey Note 3: http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/347258/samsung-galaxy-note-3-zwart.html
And people wonder why I don't buy my hardware here?
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Yeah I really wonder why you don't buy your hardware in the Netherlands, and last but not least, to make your 'happiness' complete, I bought my original DUTCH Note 3 for €525. Brand- and simlockfree. So no European model but the only real one. Anyways, when you live in the Netherlands like you and me.
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506€ now in greece ?
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Also 500 euros under the desk in Serbia
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Who cares? Ill be happy to see more people switching. That means more chances of getting more dev support.
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Hey! Also bought mine from Scan UK via their eBay store (by the way, never buy from SimplyElectronics, don't be tempted by the cheap prices).
Been using it and can see myself using this device for at least a year and a half. I tend to swith to new one every year. Upgrading from a Nexus 4.
Now regarding the price drop, several factors to take into consideration:
* This is Samsung. They can afford to drop the price, and still grab marketshare and get a profit.
* The holiday season!
* Knox
I'm very happy with the phone. It's the best long lasting device I've had since the Nokia days of Symbian, and boy does USB3 charge this baby fast!
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After i bought it they dropped the price to £424 for a few days on ebay, on their own site they are selling it for £453 last time i checked, I went to pick mine up rather than have it delivered as I'm only 20 mins drive away from place.
As for Simply Electronics I'm surprised this company still allowed to trade as a UK base company, because they pretend they based in the UK, when really they based in Hong Kong, and all there stuff you order and eventually get weeks after if you get it at all that is are grey imports, plus because they based in Hong Kong you will have no protection under the UK Sale Of Goods Act if something goes wrong & you try to get it sorted under warranty then forget it, but yet thousand of people each year are duped into the low prices & Trading Standards don't seem to do anything about them.
OK, So I'm a loyal Nexus user, but I felt comfortable with my Nexus 4 so I decided not to upgrade at first. We're now into March, which means we're less than 12 months away from the Nexus 6, so is now the wrong time upgrade to the Nexus 5? There's been no discounts for the Nexus 5 yet so it's not as if I'd be saving money and with the rumours than the Nexus 6 will use an octa core, that could literally render the Nexus 5 worthless to many.
What do you think?
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rumours that the Nexus 6 will use an octa core, that could literally render the Nexus 5 worthless to many.
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well that's not true. just because it has more cores doesn't necessarily mean much (+ it's a rumour) - definitely considering how much of a powerhouse the N5 is.
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That's a decision you have to make on your own man. In today's technologically driven world, that new, better, faster, sleeker device is always going to be "just around the corner." For me, the Nexus 5 is the best phone I have ever used. Have you seen the development forums (we have TWO by the way!!!! lol), there's enough ROMS for you to flash and play with for well over a year lol. If you feel you've outgrown the Nexus 4 and want something better, then go ahead and pickup the N5. If you're content with your N4 then I guess go ahead and wait..
Yeah, cause when a new phone comes out, your old one just stops working and gets useless
To be honost, i dont think any processor in the next 2 years will be much better than the one in the nexus 5. Its already powerful enough as it is.
I'd wait for the 6 personally. Only because its not much of a jump for me, 4 to 5.... same as s3 to s4 or HTC one to one 2...
Not jump enough to be out of pocket
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Depends on how much you can get for the n4 to me! Just got my nexus 5 and its whole lot better this time around(last one I had had that yellowish tint) I think is it especially if you live in a area that will get you lte speeds
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I would wait until either the Nexus 6 or the Nexus 5 is reduced in price. Google obviously reduced the Nexus 4 quite heavily at the end of its life-cycle and I would imagine they will do the same in the not so near future.
I purchased my N5 on Amazon. Brand new, I paid a total of $37.09 USD. I was eligible for my two year upgrade through Sprint. I'm not sure which carrier you have but I would say it's definitely worth checking out. Also check wirefly.
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Get the N5 now, sell the N4, then later get the N6 and sell the N5........
Waiting for a price cut from Google won't make sense in your case since what you care is being up to date. Why wait for a price cut if by then, the N6 will be 2-4 moths away and you will be in the same situation as right now (should I buy the 6 or wait for the 16 cores nexus phone 7:laugh
As galaxys said, sell N4 now and get the 5.
Or don't get the 5 at all because the Nexus 4 performs well on 4.4. and wait for the 6.
If you want a phone now, get the n5.
How much faster can any phone really get at this point? The n6 may get bigger benchmarks, but in the real world, where most of us live....how much quicker will it really seem in day to day use? For what you can reasonably do on a cell phone....I think "speed" has been about maxed. All phone companies can do now is work on other things. Battery life, cameras...etc....
I suppose the battery, camera and maybe storage might be slightly better on the N6...but for me, the n5 more than meets my needs for all those.
To each his own tho.
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Wait for the Nexus 6. The reason I got the nexus 5 was because I came from the Nexus S. It's a 3 generation upgrade for me
Do what @galaxys said.
the n6 will probably be out by the end of this year if not then at the beginning of 2015
Imo the N5 is overall a better device than the N4; better cpu, gpu, speaker and a gorgeous screen. I wouldn`t want to have missed it personaly. We`ll see what the N6 will bring in about 8-9 months
Interesting juxtaposition of opinions here, some people saying get the N5 others saying wait for N6. I think I might just go for the N5 and sell this one to my old man, after all, by the time the N6 comes out, the N4 will be two generations behind. I think the biggest thing I miss right now is 4G. I don't get it where I live, but I do get it where I work, well, I could, but I don't because I'm on an N4. Currently, the N4's still sell for up to £170 (16gb of course) depending on condition and age. That's going to drop significantly when the N6 comes out. Mine's a minter, always kept in a case, always had a screen protector, and is only a few months old as I had to return my last one under warranty due to a faulty screen, so he's said he's willing to pay £170. Plus, keeping it in the family means he can still enjoy the warranty protection and I can always sell my mums phone and get a few more quid, as she'll no doubt get my dads S2 (which is still a damn good phone).
From all the speculation, there's very little I can see on the N6 that is actually that attractive. Octa core I get that, but fingerprint unlock? Meh. It's not as though Apple's has set the world alight. What I will say is that from now on, if I see a Nexus device and decide that's a good option, I will buy it, as opposed to wait like I did with the N5.
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same as s3 to s4
Not jump enough to be out of pocket
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How is it not a big jump? The s3 had a 1.5ghz dual core cpu and 1gb ram, and the s4 sports a 1.9ghz quad, with 2 ram (not to mention the 108 19th resolution display)
The jump from s3 to s4 was pretty significant if you ask me.
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How is it not a big jump? The s3 had a 1.5ghz dual core cpu and 1gb ram, and the s4 sports a 1.9ghz quad, with 2 ram (not to mention the 108 19th resolution display)
The jump from s3 to s4 was pretty significant if you ask me.
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I just don't see it as enough of a jump to be worth losing money on.
If I am in a contract where I am paying £35 a month for SIM and handset, for 24 months and after 12 months, I want the S4, I have to sell the S3 for half of the cost of the S4, find the other half the cost of the S4 AND still pay the £20 of the £35 a month for the S3 that I no longer own, I don't see the S4 being "worth it". Does it represent that much of an improvement? I don't think so.
It's purely subjective.
Slightly unrelated but it doesn't matter what hardware Samsung put in their devices, they all lag just as much
I've just upgraded from a nexus 4 also. The 4 had tons of life but no LTE. I will keep this for two years. With a decent kernel it's one hell of a phone I'm proud to have
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I just don't see it as enough of a jump to be worth losing money on.
If I am in a contract where I am paying £35 a month for SIM and handset, for 24 months and after 12 months, I want the S4, I have to sell the S3 for half of the cost of the S4, find the other half the cost of the S4 AND still pay the £20 of the £35 a month for the S3 that I no longer own, I don't see the S4 being "worth it". Does it represent that much of an improvement? I don't think so.
It's purely subjective.
Slightly unrelated but it doesn't matter what hardware Samsung put in their devices, they all lag just as much
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Yup ....I'm done with Samsung. Touchwiz is horrible and it takes a lot of work to make them smooth and lag free. I'm doubting roots future on new ones also. No root on a Samsung would be a nightmare. Lol
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Why is OnePlus using this invite system? I honestly don't see the logic behind deliberately limiting the amount of people that can give OnePlus money. Also, is this invite system going eventually go away and open the phone to the public or will it forever be an invite-only phone?
Probably because the supply cannot meet its demand. So they have a invite system to cause hype, free marketing until they their supply can meet the demand. Plus at the price of $349, they aren't making much profit on the phone.
But I agree, get rid of the invite system and get the phone in people's hands before the specs become outdated to other flagship devices. They're here making customizable covers and whatnot, who cares.. just get the phone out to meet its demand.
The OPO is dead meat once the Nexus 6 comes out in 2 to 3 months.
The Nexus 6 will cost around $349, have newer next gen hardware, and come with Android 'L' out of the box. And with the Nexus 6, you will be able to actually, really purchase the phone, for real.
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The OPO is dead meat once the Nexus 6 comes out in 2 to 3 months.
The Nexus 6 will cost around $349, have newer next gen hardware, and come with Android 'L' out of the box. And with the Nexus 6, you will be able to actually, really purchase the phone, for real.
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I doubt the OPO will be "dead meat." There is no serious next gen hardware unless it ships with Snapdragon 805.
OPO will still be a good phone regardless and its hard to pack that much in a $349 phone especially coming from a popular manufacturer such as LG/Samsung/HTC. OPO will have Android "L" regardless.
Obvious troll is obvious.
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The OPO is dead meat once the Nexus 6 comes out in 2 to 3 months.
The Nexus 6 will cost around $349, have newer next gen hardware, and come with Android 'L' out of the box. And with the Nexus 6, you will be able to actually, really purchase the phone, for real.
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Have you ever tried to buy a Nexus phone on release?...
Plus I doubt that Nexus 6 will have 805...
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Have you ever tried to buy a Nexus phone on release?...
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Yes. I have owned the first four Nexus phones, and all but the Nexus 4 were easy and fast to get. I got the Nexus-One the first week it came out, I got the Nexus-S at T-Mobile Best Buy the morning it was released immediately, I ordered the Galaxy Nexus online the 2nd week it was out, and got it the week after, and the Nexus 4 was a pain, was sold out the first two months, and was impossible to find, but by the third month they had better stock and I got one. I did not get the Nexus 5, because the crappy battery life, and I was pissed Google didn't keep the 3,000mAh battery from the G2 which the phone was based off.
My point being, all those Nexus phones were fast and easy to get, except the Nexus 4, but that was turned around by the third month. Where as the OnePlus One has been out for 3 months now, and still impossible to find, and the phone is still not available for purchase, you need this ridiculous "invite" which just blows my mind away any sane company would try to market a product this way. How bout make a website with a purchase button and shipping date, and let me buy it and get it 3 days later, not wait for some stupid invite, that just turns me away.
OPO really screwed up here, or purposely fooled everyone, not sure which is true ? How could they not know a phone with $700 flagship specs, but only selling for half that at $350 wouldn't be a smashing hit, and very hot seller ? They should have been more prepared, at least expecting this OPO to sell like a Nexus phone, quantity wise. I think they had 120,000 forum members at launch, that were all wiling to buy the phone, but only originally released like 5,000 phones at launch, and then like 7,000 later, and several thousand more, but WTF that's extremely low quantities, a joke actually.
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I bet it does.
Everyone says this every year about the upcoming Nexus, no way it will have flagship hardware at the cheap price they sell the Nexus phones. But every year it does.
Last year everyone expected the Nexus 5 to have the Snapdragon 600, to match the then flagships; Galaxy S4 and HTC One M7, but the Nexus 5 came with the brand new next gen Snapdragon 800, besting those two flagships, and still selling for half their price.
My prediction for the Nexus 6;
- Announced in October / released in November
- Price of $400
- Snapdragon 805
- 3GB RAM
- 2600mAh - 2900mAh battery
- 5.2" to 5.5" Screen
- Maybe a 1440p screen, but most likely 1080p
- Made by either; Asus, HTC, or Sony
So, I've never sold my phones before, but the thing is, I really want to move over to the phablet side of things, and I want to get the note 5. The Note 5 is slated for a q3 release. My upgrade is due already (have a HTC m7) and since I pretty much put my HTC out of commission, I'm using my Blackberry from like 2009 as my current phone.
Main question is, If I buy the s6 and sell it in like 5 months tops, what would I get for it?
It's hard to say to be honest. Since they'll be a lot of S6 devices sold the resale value is likely to be lower, like other Galaxy devices in the past. Supply and demand after all.
On the other hand the build quality is much better than previous devices and it's likely to be higher than previous years.
I'm in the same boat as you, I am intrigued by the S6, and possibly the G4, but I know the Note 5 will likely be even better.
Both are great devices (Note 4 lollipop update killed my battery life). As someone who has gone from phone to phablet then back again, I can tell you that selling your galaxy phone on ebay, CL etc can be pretty disappointing. If you pay full price today, in 6 months you could probably pull $350 selling it... at least that's been my experience. Either way, good luck, and the GS6 has been great for me so far so you can't go wrong there.
I would agree with the above post. I am guessing that in 6 months you'll probably be able to get 350 to 450 for the GS6. That's really not bad, but you'll be paying about 200 for using the device for 6 months.
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Yep all the above post are accurate the note probably holds the most value of any android phone. Truth is because of so many releases android phones don' keep value well, in about 2 month you'll start seeing s6 pop up used for around 450-475 probably by the fall when the note 5 comes for a mint condition s6 32gb you'd get about 400 probably