Htc sence 5.0 - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Any1 knows
Is there sence 5.0 port for n5
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I guess I don't get this. Everyone who buys an HTC, Samsung, LG or Sony want straight android to run on it. Now those with Google phones want another manufacturers overlay.
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NaterTots said:
I guess I don't get this. Everyone who buys an HTC, Samsung, LG or Sony want straight android to run on it. Now those with Google phones want another manufacturers overlay.
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yep.. 5 years ago, "porting" these features to phones they didn't belong on made sense. people spent a lot of time doing it. but now that most carriers are saturated with Samsung, HTC, LG, Sony, basically you name it and that's not even to mention unlocked devices, it does seem like an oddity and a complete waste of time

crachel said:
a complete waste of time
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One may even say it was senseless...
RDRR

nisu4717 said:
Any1 knows
Is there sence 5.0 port for n5
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AS HTC has not comparable chipset to the Nexus5 and Kitkat is new on the HTC One, That makes it harder to port it.
Also it seems like there's not interest to work on that.

NaterTots said:
I guess I don't get this. Everyone who buys an HTC, Samsung, LG or Sony want straight android to run on it. Now those with Google phones want another manufacturers overlay.
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I don't get either

NaterTots said:
I guess I don't get this. Everyone who buys an HTC, Samsung, LG or Sony want straight android to run on it. Now those with Google phones want another manufacturers overlay.
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I get it, just because something is hard doesn't mean it shouldn't be done.
There are some neat manufacturer features which would make our phones better, example Wifi Calling.
The code for that has been released for a long time yet it's not something google wants to approach.
Nexus 5 isn't pure android it's pure Google with it's own custom launcher so with that why not add some other neat features and launchers why let google control what this phone should be?
This phone was made to be a developer phone so why not develop it to it's fullest potential I'm running a rom based off Nexus 7 KVT49L that's loaded with features. It's not from this site and when someone mentioned this rom the post was deleted. That just seems closed minded and hinders development in my opinion. Luckily I saw the post and checked out the rom.
Think how pissed the manufacturers would be if all their cool features could be incorporated on one phone.
One last thing just because someone has a different opinion than yours doesn't make it wrong.
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Which android phone has the most active developers?

My next android phone will the one that has the most active developers/hackers. Your hardware is only as good as the software it runs. There is no point in buying a phone if hardly anything is being developed for it. I want greatest selection in rom's and apps. Which handset should I go for?
i've got a nexus one, and there are quite a large selection of roms, themes and apps. And its got pretty impressive hardware and looks stunning. I've got one, and love it.
I would say just being what it is and know that the nexus 1 is awesome. Get a nexus s. Or get a evo shift. I have one and its a quick little bugger
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i got a mytouch 4g it has pretty good development it has 768 ram
Any Nexus phone would probably have the most developers.
Samsung
Galaxy S and Galaxy S II
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The gs2. I don't think the galaxy nexus even has as many devs as they do.
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The HTC HD2. Even after more than 2,5 years it is still one of the most popular device on XDA.
Hd2, the Vendetta of android phones...nothing can beat it, not for 2 years more..
It have got its own rules, the hard thing is finding a piece is hard, coz most of them are with devs and non will sell it till it have a hardware prob.
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A$h x said:
My next android phone will the one that has the most active developers/hackers. Your hardware is only as good as the software it runs. There is no point in buying a phone if hardly anything is being developed for it. I want greatest selection in rom's and apps. Which handset should I go for?
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Even I am looking for same. Thanks for starting this thread.
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It would be great, if users can actually see such stats. It would made choice much simple.
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Hd2, the Vendetta of android phones...nothing can beat it, not for 2 years more..
It have got its own rules, the hard thing is finding a piece is hard, coz most of them are with devs and non will sell it till it have a hardware prob.
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Yep, all HD2 on ebay.in are either old or refurbished.
I think HTC HD2.
You can put like anything on that thing I heard. Windows 6.5 (stock= not recommended) ; 7,5
Android, Ubuntu.
And it got A LOT of ROMs
Also very elegant and good looking.
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Will XDa / MOD post such info? It will gr8 for new buyers like me
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Will XDa / MOD post such info? It will gr8 for new buyers like me
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The problem with this is that the amount of developers change with every new device release. Never get a phone based on the number of developers that said phone has. You will learn that as soon as a new device is released alot of developers sell their current device to get the new one.
I so miss my here. But t-mobile sucks here. I think I'm going for a galaxy next time 5.3 inch screen sounds lovely.
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The problem with this is that the amount of developers change with every new device release. Never get a phone based on the number of developers that said phone has. You will learn that as soon as a new device is released alot of developers sell their current device to get the new one.
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some legends like hd2, nexus, etc will be holding the crown for min one year more. any doubts???
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some legends like hd2, nexus, etc will be holding the crown for min one year more. any doubts???
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The HD2 is a legend and will always hold a great geek factor. The nexus well that depends on how many jump ship. It will be OK for at least a year untilled Google releases the next version and then you will see development slow on the device.

Anyone grabbing this badboy?

http://www.androidcentral.com/sprints-motorola-photon-4g-available-july-31-199-contract
Just thought Id share this with you guys...
sounds pretty badass but its kinda ugly
My brother wants to go on my line, and imma either tell him the evo 3d or this.
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The specs seem pretty good but its kinda ugly and looks bulky...after this nexus I don't think I want to go to a heavier phone..oh and I love cm7 and miui
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Itll get rooted, but bootloader is locked. With the recent breakthroughs on the Droid X with second init and getting CM7 working, count on aosp working at some point on the Photon also. Motorola may even unlock a few months down the road since they promised no more locked bootloaders.
Like the look and nice specs but I only buy Nexus devices. To buy any other android phone other than a Nexus would be stupid.
I think it is nice, but, I genuinely love my NS4G and I haven't even rooted and started flashing yet.
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Yea dont blame you. I personally like Motorola and think itll be the best all around option sprint will see this year. Best battery and radio, guaranteed.
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Like the look and nice specs but I only buy Nexus devices. To buy any other android phone other than a Nexus would be stupid.
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Oh. And the Atrix bootloader has been hacked and unlocked so im sure the photon will be figured out shortly.
gunstar3035 said:
Like the look and nice specs but I only buy Nexus devices. To buy any other android phone other than a Nexus would be stupid.
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Wow. That's pretty closed minded.
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Battery life will be awesome. It has a 10 hour talk time.
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If it gets unlocked, I'll jump on it. Tegra 2 processors are second to none with their 3D capabilities. I'm skeptical about battery life and the qHD display. The only phone I'm interested other than this is the SGS2 but that's not going to be out until fall according to our samsung rep.
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Like the look and nice specs but I only buy Nexus devices. To buy any other android phone other than a Nexus would be stupid.
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How would that be stupid? Other manufactures add functionality that should be included in stock android already but isn't. Unless you're stuck on the "ill get updates first wagon".
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Quis89 said:
How would that be stupid? Other manufactures add functionality that should be included in stock android already but isn't. Unless you're stuck on the "ill get updates first wagon".
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That's a matter of opinion and on the development device you have the source to add to if you wish : D not hating on you but most run to the nexus line to escape what the carrier added.
The proton is ugly imo lol, can't imagine comfort holding that thing also why are all these dual cores only pushing one gig?
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Hell yeah I am getting this phone. It is what the EVO 2 should have been. And it will be rooted, not worried about that.
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I had a flashback when I seen it I couldn't place it but I got it, the motorola i1 presumably one of the worst phones produced with android. It featured iden push to talk and that was the only selling point, shipped with 1.5 android when froyo was out, the list goes on. the design is a perfect match as far as the shape. Visit this link
www.motorola.com/Consumers/US-EN/Consumer-Product-and-Services/Mobile-Phones/MOTOROLA-i1-US-EN
load the flash video and check picture 2 and the last one out. Very bulky
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Off topic but which do you prefer more, sense or motoblur. I used sense 3.0 and I totally hated it, it felt like the UI was bogging down the hardware. I never tired blur, i know some people have a thing against it but don't know why...
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chewbz said:
Off topic but which do you prefer more, sense or motoblur. I used sense 3.0 and I totally hated it, it felt like the UI was bogging down the hardware. I never tired blur, i know some people have a thing against it but don't know why...
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Because it's the ugliest, slowest, buggiest UI
Lol. The new blur isnt bad. The icons are what kill me.
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Because it's the ugliest, slowest, buggiest UI
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I hated blur when it came out on the cliq and havent touched it since then
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[REQUEST] WebOS port for One X

Well as most of you might of heard, webos has finally been released in beta to the public. I was just wandering if anyone would take on the challenge of bringing such amazing OS to a phone that i think its perfect in form factor and everything for it. And i think the sooner development starts on the One X with webos well the more accostumed developers will get and maybe with future releases from hp the One X could be one of the devices to get early builds from them. Its just a request after all though, i think it would make a lot of us hapoy to see it
Its one of my long terms goals, over the course of the next year or so, now that things with JB have smoothed over. Though it might not even happen... may be impossible. The OS is entirely different than Android. The only thing they share is the Linux kernel (which still needs heavy modification).
No ETAs. Ever.
If you want to contribute and you can contribute to the project, let me know via PM or email.
but i saw that web os is ported to htc evo 3d already.how is evo 3d different from our phone?
Because this forum doesn't have the same developers as the EVO, save reason why the One S hasn't got it either.
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Because this forum doesn't have the same developers as the EVO, save reason why the One S hasn't got it either.
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I must say isn't this statement sort of a smack in the face to our current developers?
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superchilpil said:
I must say isn't this statement sort of a smack in the face to our current developers?
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It kind of is but the fact is that our device isn't as popular as others in attracting developers. While the ones we do have are great, it simply can't match the number of developers for other devices which makes large projects like this more achievable.
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It kind of is but the fact is that our device isn't as popular as others in attracting developers. While the ones we do have are great, it simply can't match the number of developers for other devices which makes large projects like this more achievable.
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Ehh that's sorta true but it only takes one dev, I've been around both big and small communities on xda and its usually just one big dev who comes through with the break through that paves the way for the less experienced devs
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Really not a smack in the face at all to our current devs. Our current devs may just not be interested in webOS. They're busy making better stuff for what we have now. and doing a mighty good job thus far. You can't fault them for not having the interest in webos (i personally would consider running it just to say i could, but i'd be back on CR probably within a couple hours.
As a touchpad owner i guarantee you will hate webos because of the lack of apps.
It's funny to see people request android on touchpad and people request webos on android
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As a touchpad owner i guarantee you will hate webos because of the lack of apps.
It's funny to see people request android on touchpad and people request webos on android
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Have to agree there. WebOS had (has?) so much potential.... In some ways it's still superior to Android. But without apps, its pretty useless. With no OEM backing it anymore... Where's the incentive to develop?
It has crazy potential though. Back it the early Android porting days of the Touchpad, someone created an android environment that ran entirely as a WebOS page for running apps. If an OEM could pull that off, they'd have the best of both worlds.
With all these new phones coming out it's hard to pick which one will have the best/most developer support. Back about 1-2 years ago there were many phones but only a few "great" high end ones so most of the developers were on those all at the same time. Now there are many high end phones on all networks and internationally so the developers are spread out. It wasn't a problem before, but now I won't buy a phone at launch, no matter how great, before I see what the development will be like. I made that mistake with the Galaxy Note for AT&T. The development there wasn't even close to the international version.
The One X is an incredible phone. Imagine what it would be like with the amount of development that the Nexus or even the Evo 3d has? It's kinda sad that this phone doesn't have that much popularity with more developers. It's a better phone all around than the Nexus or Evo 3d.
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Actually I can't say that I won't buy a phone again without looking at the development because I do plan on getting the Note 2 at launch. The tough part is gonna be figuring out which version to get. It's probably gonna be like the sgs3. Some of the versions have more development than the others.
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is this useful by any means?
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/open-webos-galaxy-nexus-port-source-code-now-available/
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Imagine what it would be like with the amount of development that the Nexus or even the Evo 3d has? It's kinda sad that this phone doesn't have that much popularity with more developers. It's a better phone all around than the Nexus or Evo 3d.
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Guess you didn't have the gsm 3vo then eh?
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Guess you didn't have the gsm 3vo then eh?
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Lol nope. Maybe the evo 3d was a bad example.
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is this useful by any means?
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/open-webos-galaxy-nexus-port-source-code-now-available/
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I would actually prefer looking at how to merge some WebOS features into Android, rather than port the OS over without a halfway decent app store .
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h8rift said:
I would actually prefer looking at how to merge some WebOS features into Android, rather than port the OS over without a halfway decent app store .
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True story. I wonder if we'll start to see Webdroid or AndrOS hybrid-ports in the next couple of years.

JB in November 2012

Hi,
HTC confirmed that the S will get its JB-Update in Novemver 2012. (http://www.golem.de/news/hands-on-htc-one-x-plus-mit-schnellerem-tegra-3-prozessor-1210-94817-3.html) (german!)
Greets
YAY , only a month
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Hmm interesting. Flash player will natively work on the JB upgrade...
Vauix said:
Hmm interesting. Flash player will natively work on the JB upgrade...
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On Engadget it says that JB will be rolling out THIS month!!
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/02/htc-jelly-bean-one-series/
According to gsmarena.com JB will arrive this month!
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x_with_android_41_jelly_bean_is_now_official__-news-4884.php
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According to gsmarena.com JB will arrive this month!
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maybe they'll roll it out on different times in different countries...
Yeah... that's true.
It's sad because we the owners that use the s3 version of the htc one s didn't get android 4.0.4 and sense 4.1 and others will be getting jb this month!
Another F.U. post for HTC !
Yea, but if you read at the bottom, tmo one s won't get it with the rest, it's bad enough having to wait on manufacturers to work the new version into their skin that they just haaave to have, but we also have to wait on the carrier to approve and add their extra layer of crap. I really wish they would all just give us the option to run vanilla android if we wanted without rooting. It does me up the wall. Ok I'm done ranting now.
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The one s and one x, won't see jb until the one x+ is released
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JB come to HOS and HOX free's in october, with a company comes in november-december
This is good, seems HTC and Samsung both want to get there flagship devices on jb, but we will probably see a leak sooner I knew it was coming soon
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Yanno with how tmo is constantly trying to improve everything. Common sense would b to get these updates out quickly. To build confidence with there customers.
But it does make sense for HTC to wait for the one x+ to land in the u.s .. but screw both theories /endofrant
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Well even if that's the case we will still see it here before T-Mobile anyways but atleast we know when to expect it
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Yeah... that's true.
It's sad because we the owners that use the s3 version of the htc one s didn't get android 4.0.4 and sense 4.1 and others will be getting jb this month!
Another F.U. post for HTC !
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Why didn't you make sure you bought the s4 before buying it?
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Many of us didn't know that there are 2 versions of the One S (i didn't).
Add to that the fact that the S3 is sold in specific regions.
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The one s and one x, won't see jb until the one x+ is released
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One x+ ? Wtf?
If I helped in any way please hit thanks
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One x+ ? Wtf?
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Have a look at the OP.
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Yea, but if you read at the bottom, tmo one s won't get it with the rest, it's bad enough having to wait on manufacturers to work the new version into their skin that they just haaave to have, but we also have to wait on the carrier to approve and add their extra layer of crap. I really wish they would all just give us the option to run vanilla android if we wanted without rooting. It does me up the wall. Ok I'm done ranting now.
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You do have a choice.... its called get a Nexus!!! HTC/Samsung/Motorola/etc, always have, and always will add a skin to their phones. It's one of the reasons I bought my One S... For Sense!!!!! I never understood why people complain and ask companies to remove the one feature they add that is PURPOSELY added to help differentiate their phones from all the rest.
I prefer vanilla over sense. I bought the One S because of the excellent hardware, not because of sense. Still I would say that sense is better than vanilla for beginners. Some reasons:
1. Labels under every button so its behavior is clear. In some Google apps, for example Gmail, there are lots of buttons without labels and its not always clear what they do. Yes, I know I can long press to get description, but not everyone does.
2. More functionality included without third party apps. Why hasn't Google included something as basic as stopwatch in their clock app?
Theres probably more, but this is what I could think of now
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I prefer vanilla over sense. I bought the One S because of the excellent hardware, not because of sense. Still I would say that sense is better than vanilla for beginners. Some reasons:
1. Labels under every button so its behavior is clear. In some Google apps, for example Gmail, there are lots of buttons without labels and its not always clear what they do. Yes, I know I can long press to get description, but not everyone does.
2. More functionality included without third party apps. Why hasn't Google included something as basic as stopwatch in their clock app?
Theres probably more, but this is what I could think of now
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Wow...been using Android for many years and just learned about this long press trick. I don't care about #2...I'd rather find an app that works the way I want it to rather than have some bloatware running in the background all the time.

Where to next?

I don't have an upgrade yet, but as the date draws nearer (December) I really start looking at what is coming out between now and then, and I must say I'm not feeling particularly confident about any given upgrade path.
If it's true the next Nexus will be Nexus Optimus based off the Optimus G I'd probably consider the Optimus G since having identical hardware to the galaxy S worked many wonders for the captivate.
Outside of that, the Xperia Tl looks like a pretty great device if it gets enough support to see decent long-lived dev support.
So, what upcoming phone do you think will have the best dev support? I would really like to keep getting updates long after the manufacturer officially drops support.. and Even if it's only 400$, I probably will skip the nexus since 16 gigs isn't enough without expandable memory storage..
Same. I also have an upgrade due this December and the new phones on at&t aren't interesting. I would've gone to the one x but their at&t version has ran into a wall because of a recent update that locked the boot loaders down, hard. (At&t officially does not support unlocked boot loaders for it). So, the Cappy is still moving forward
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Same. I also have an upgrade due this December and the new phones on at&t aren't interesting. I would've gone to the one x but their at&t version has ran into a wall because of a recent update that locked the boot loaders down, hard. (At&t officially does not support unlocked boot loaders for it). So, the Cappy is still moving forward
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I was looking at galaxy note 2. 2gigs of ram and quad core onix
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Same. I also have an upgrade due this December and the new phones on at&t aren't interesting. I would've gone to the one x but their at&t version has ran into a wall because of a recent update that locked the boot loaders down, hard. (At&t officially does not support unlocked boot loaders for it). So, the Cappy is still moving forward
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I'm cautiously optimistic about both the Xperia TL and the Optimus G.
I know that back mfr support can ruin otherwise great phones.. both in terms of upgrades and devs ability to make custom roms.. So I'll be looking anxiously at the LG Optimus. If the One x+ keeps the 64 gb of storage or even just 32gb of storage I would seriously consider it too assuming the dev support was adequate.
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I was looking at galaxy note 2. 2gigs of ram and quad core onix
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I am really worried the Note 2 will be far to big for my taste. The 4.7" phones already seem *huge* to have to stick in my pocket. Aside from that I'd be worried about the quad core exynos processsors which I hear make it hard to cook up custom Roms.
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I was looking at galaxy note 2. 2gigs of ram and quad core onix
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Sweet, I might consider that too. I'm not feeling the galaxy s3 for at&t at all and HTC one x is stuck on a rut with that 2.20 update.
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I'm cautiously optimistic about both the Xperia TL and the Optimus G.
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LG Optimus G looks very promising. I love its hardware design (on the same level with HTC one x or better, IMO), that quadcore Qualcomm s4 processor, and the screen is fantastic. I wish At&t included the 13 mp camera. But then again all cellphone cameras will never be perfect.
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Sweet, I might consider that too. I'm not feeling the galaxy s3 for at&t at all and HTC one x is stuck on a rut with that 2.20 update.
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LG Optimus G looks very promising. I love its hardware design (on the same level with HTC one x or better, IMO), that quadcore Qualcomm s4 processor, and the screen is fantastic. I wish At&t included the 13 mp camera. But then again all cellphone cameras will never be perfect.
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I want a decent camera but, honestly my absolute biggest concern is long term dev support. I wish there was an environment more "open" to dev with carriers. I understand they don't want to have to deal with people bricking their phones.. At the same time "voided warranty" scares off most people I talk to about custom roms in the first place.. So I don't think they are really gaining anything by locking down phones.. People either care about the warranty or they don't.
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I want a decent camera but, honestly my absolute biggest concern is long term dev support. I wish there was an environment more "open" to dev with carriers. I understand they don't want to have to deal with people bricking their phones.. At the same time "voided warranty" scares off most people I talk to about custom roms in the first place.. So I don't think they are really gaining anything by locking down phones.. People either care about the warranty or they don't.
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Well I'm guessing it's because carriers want you to buy a new phone for every upgrade date to make $$$ so they lock boot loaders (of course, that assumption could be false). For long term development support I will buy an international Samsung galaxy s_ device or a nexus.
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panda_mode said:
Well I'm guessing it's because carriers want you to buy a new phone for every upgrade date to make $$$ so they lock boot loaders (of course, that assumption could be false). For long term development support I will buy an international Samsung galaxy s_ device or a nexus.
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Unfortunately, I'm kinda tired of the SAMOLED displays.
As far as why they do it, forcing customers to buy new phones is a pretty horrible reason TBH.
There are far too many people who are angry at manufacturers for failing to update fast enough. When you remove their ability to install their own update, you're just giving them a reason to find another product.
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Unfortunately, I'm kinda tired of the SAMOLED displays.
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Me too, which is why I'm going to the One X or Nexus 4. I have a Nexus 7 and support is good. But I don't think any phone out there will be better than my captivate, development wise.
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panda_mode said:
Me too, which is why I'm going to the One X or Nexus 4. I have a Nexus 7 and support is good. But I don't think any phone out there will be better than my captivate, development wise.
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Captivate came in a golden age were on at&t when had no real android competitor. Great specs nothing locked really and almost exactly same as nexus device
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leezrd said:
Captivate came in a golden age were on at&t when had no real android competitor. Great specs nothing locked really and almost exactly same as nexus device
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Haha, yup that's a good point. I'm glad that the cappy was my first android device and is/was filled with plenty of developers to support it. I'm kind of sad to leave it this December, TBH.
What do you think of the SGS3?
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panda_mode said:
Haha, yup that's a good point. I'm glad that the cappy was my first android device and is/was filled with plenty of developers to support it. I'm kind of sad to leave it this December, TBH.
What do you think of the SGS3?
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I left my Cappy last October after the USB port died and I got tired of switching out batteries to use it for the SGS II. My SGS II just had an unfortunate accident involving water, so I pulled out my trusty Cappy which I could not part with since it was my 1st Android device. Thank god for all of the awesome development that has and continues to unfold for this device. I am on Jelly Bean 4.1.2 and its like I never left. I do not know how much longer I am going to use it (Nexus 4 looks tempting), but it continues to be an amazing phone that I will continue to go back to whenever other phones fail on me.
Kind of off topic but I really wanted to say how much of an awesome phone this is. Props to all of you who kept it for a full two years! :good:
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Haha, yup that's a good point. I'm glad that the cappy was my first android device and is/was filled with plenty of developers to support it. I'm kind of sad to leave it this December, TBH.
What do you think of the SGS3?
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I like my galaxy s3 alot
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Nexus 4 price is hard to resist, lack of storage and lte is unfortunate but can't beat 350 for a top of the line device. And it's a nexus.
I'd consider the nexus 4 if I didn't have the nexus 7 already
Might as well go with the school of fish since the galaxy s 3 is $99 now at select stores. Cant beat that price with all the features it has. But you gotta admit the HTC one x is a nice looking phone, and dare I say, and to which nobody has mentioned yet, the Lumia 920 (in red) *gasp*
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Most major retailers will have GS3 for around $50 on black friday..if you are stateside...also Sam's club will have it for .96 cents
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One thing im wondering as I look at the nexus 4 is that there are 3 buttons back, home and multi task (which is long press home for us) one of the things i love is the dedicated options or settings key, anyone have any experience moving to no options button? One (of many) things that bother me when im using an iPhone is the stupid steps you have to take to change app settings.
I'm reconsidering this phone for that reason,(although im sure XDA can give me options to remedy this issue) am i the only one who thinks a dedicated multitasking button is a waste and long press home is a fine alternative to open up another shortcut option?
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am i the only one who thinks a dedicated multitasking button is a waste and long press home is a fine alternative to open up another shortcut option?
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+1 here. Maybe a custom ROM for the Nexus will give you the ability to do that.
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I don't have an upgrade yet, but as the date draws nearer (December) I really start looking at what is coming out between now and then, and I must say I'm not feeling particularly confident about any given upgrade path.
If it's true the next Nexus will be Nexus Optimus based off the Optimus G I'd probably consider the Optimus G since having identical hardware to the galaxy S worked many wonders for the captivate.
Outside of that, the Xperia Tl looks like a pretty great device if it gets enough support to see decent long-lived dev support.
So, what upcoming phone do you think will have the best dev support? I would really like to keep getting updates long after the manufacturer officially drops support.. and Even if it's only 400$, I probably will skip the nexus since 16 gigs isn't enough without expandable memory storage..
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Getting a Nexus is your only safe bet for long term dev support and you don't have to deal with locked bootloader and losing your warranty by unlocking it (you have no choice with Sony and HTC, because you enter your IMEI to unlock it which void your warranty, unless you do some third party unlocking method). Also for the price of the Nexus 4 and being a Nexus device, I don't see why one would get the Optimus G with locked bootloader and probably poor support, if only for the 32gb storage which is not worth it compared to all the things the Nexus offer (ie, Google updates, easy to flash, best dev support and highesst quality rom, pentaband, elitist Nexus fanboys community).
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am i the only one who thinks a dedicated multitasking button is a waste and long press home is a fine alternative to open up another shortcut option?
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Various CyanogenMod and AOKP-based rom is capable of customizing the on screen NavBar, including for the Captivate. Try AOKP rom and look for the Navigation bar settings.
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+1 here. Maybe a custom ROM for the Nexus will give you the ability to do that.
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Custom ROMs allow you to change all sorts of things about the navigation bar. You can have more buttons, different buttons, even shortcuts/widgets.
Also, I can say from experience that the three button setup is better than the four button setup.
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