TF700-like alternatives - Asus Transformer TF700

Just wanted to start a dedicated thread to discuss some potential replacement devices for the TF700, instead of discussing it in the CROMi-X thread (some people seem to get really upset when you talk about something "off-topic"!).
As we all know, the TF700 has some serious flash-memory performance issues. While I would love to replace my TF700 with an alternate-branded device (not giving Asus anymore chances - was bit by them with the TF101, TF700 and even my Nexus 7 is now having charging issues), there don't seem to be many (if any) options available that provide the same functionality as the TF700's keyboard dock (which I use with my TF700 99% of the time!).
So far, we have identified these potential Android alternatives in the CROMi-X thread (really not interested in a Windows or Apple iOS device):
- HP SlateBook x2
- Toshiba AT10LE-A (speculative at this point - not released yet)
Really, that's about it. However, it has been noted that the HP SlateBook x2 has two serious (deal-breaking) issues:
- No root access (at leat not yet)
- No way to connect to PC (although, I just read about a cable that does allow ADB access when connected to a PC, so this may not be an issue anymore).
The Toshiba AT10LE-A sounds promising, but I would be worried about developer support for it, if it is ever really released (just "leaked" info so far).
Anyone else know of any other Android-based devices that support a true keyboard dock?
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Hmm, just realized that the Toshiba AT10LE-A "leaks" were all from May, 2013 - it looks like the tablet was already released, but I can't find any mention of the keyboard dock anywhere "officially" - I'm wondering if the keyboard dock got "axed"!?!? I hope not!
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Well this isn't exactly a tablet but an interesting idea, The TransMaker

That's an interesting idea that I like. The only problem is that it's specific to one type of phone... But, for $99, it is interesting!
Honestly, I really don't understand why more tablet makers don't offer keyboard docks as options - even if they don't have the battery in them like the TF700 dock does. I really don't understand it. It would just be another accessory that they can make money off and would offer more options to their customers.
I really wish Samsung made a keyboard dock for their tablets - they seem to produce some very well-received tablets - just wish they had a keyboard dock!
It's getting to the point where I may just go with a "keyboard case" - Zagg seems to make some nice ones for some popular tablets. At least that way, it would still be "part of" the tablet and you wouldn't need to carry around a completely-separate bluetooth keyboard. Plus, they have backlit keys, which is really nice. Sure, I'd lose the battery, the trackpad and the expansion ports (SD Card and full-sized USB port), but honestly, I really don't use those that much on my TF700 (beside the battery). It is nice having a USB port when needed though (I can even connect a DVD drive to my TF700 to read DVDs when needed!).
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My Dad had a Samsung Note and had a KB dock for it. I think it was the Note....
I'd prefer a hardware interface dock, not a BT dock, also. Integrated battery would also make it much more worthwhile. That is why I bought this TF700 in the first place.

Well I have a TF701T and it is a fantastic device. So much faster than the TF700T. Even with stock it is quick and with CROMi-X it flies.
The main issue is the dock. Asus have messed up big time as there is a design fault that means the tab doesn't sit firmly in the dock. I sent mine away for repair and they sent it back 'fixed' - in reality they changed the hinge but it made no difference. It doesn't actually cause any issues just doesn't feel great when you pop it over feeling some movement there. Some people have had connectivity issues due to this fault so I imagine it may shorten the life of the connector.
Shame really as other than this you cannot fault the device at all.

I thought that you still had some flash-memory slowness with the TF701? I thought that you mentioned that in the CROMi-X thread shortly after you got it?
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jtrosky said:
I thought that you still had some flash-memory slowness with the TF701? I thought that you mentioned that in the CROMi-X thread shortly after you got it?
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Er.... no by default the browser is not very optimised but the device is very quick off the bat. I said that the optimised TF700 doesn't necessarily warrant an upgrade but the TF701 is definitely faster. 18900 on quadrant (16,000 stock) and 33,000 on Antutu.

Ah - sorry about that! As I get older, my memory gets worse and worse!!
Maybe I really should consider the TF701 then - I'm just so weary of Asus anymore! The TF101, TF700 and now the Nexus 7 (which I really liked up until I started having charging issues) have left a "bad taste in my mouth"...
But then again, being that I use the dock almost 100% of the time, I'm now a little worried about the dock issues that you've mentioned...
I think I'll hold out a little longer and see if anyone else releases an Android tablet with a keyboard dock before I decide...
Thanks for clearing that up though - I was mistakenly under the impression that the TF701 still suffered from slow-flash-memory issues...
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jtrosky said:
Ah - sorry about that! As I get older, my memory gets worse and worse!!
Maybe I really should consider the TF701 then - I'm just so weary of Asus anymore! The TF101, TF700 and now the Nexus 7 (which I really liked up until I started having charging issues) have left a "bad taste in my mouth"...
But then again, being that I use the dock almost 100% of the time, I'm now a little worried about the dock issues that you've mentioned...
I think I'll hold out a little longer and see if anyone else releases an Android tablet with a keyboard dock before I decide...
Thanks for clearing that up though - I was mistakenly under the impression that the TF701 still suffered from slow-flash-memory issues...
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They definitely solved the IO issues on the TF701T See :
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I'm assuming that my TF700 dock won't work with the TF701? That is another thing I wish Asus did better - I wish they provided the "docking hinge" portion of the dock with the tablet and made them interchangeable, so that you don't have to buy a new dock every time you upgrade the tablet!
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The tf701 is a speed demon, so far has not suffered with the tests I've done, here some differences with the TF700:
Display: The tf701 has a much better than the TF700, which has its best when you activate the " vivid " mode, the resolution is higher and definitely looks awesome. The only lack is that i believe tha not have gorilla glass, definitely anti scratch, but not gorilla glass.
Processor and Memory: This section is satisfactory, the TF 700 users notice the difference immediately, when you install applications can navigate and do other tasks without lag, transfer files have a nice speed, and his 2 GB memory mantains everything very fluid. :fingers-crossed:
Battery: The performance is much better than my experience with the TF700 , can work between 20 % and 25% .
Games and Office Applications : This tablet can do it all, for example, the NFS most wanted graphics demands increases or decreases according to the SOC power, in my nexus 4 it runs with medium to high effects, but on the TF701 applies all effects like wet streets , smoke and paint scratches. In other hand with office applications, finally I can work with excel files without feeling that huge lag when moving from one sheet to another . :fingers-crossed:
Sound: The speaker is more powerful, but i miss the double speaker like the TF101 :silly:
Cons : Well you i have to mention it, and first is the possible lack of Gorilla Glass ( a screen protector resolved it ) , elimination of flash camera ( I personally do not take pictures with the tablet ) , less resolution of the rear camera, and finally the vibration was removed ( I have not found a way to activate )
TF701 is for now a strong option if you have or comer from TF700, had a note 10.1 and returned it for the amount of bloatware and thin frames, nothing beats the feel of the aluminum case in my hands.
I mention that this is my experience and just my opinion.

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Maybe I really should consider the TF701 then - I'm just so weary of Asus anymore! The TF101, TF700 and now the Nexus 7 (which I really liked up until I started having charging issues) have left a "bad taste in my mouth"...
But then again, being that I use the dock almost 100% of the time, I'm now a little worried about the dock issues that you've mentioned...
I think I'll hold out a little longer and see if anyone else releases an Android tablet with a keyboard dock before I decide...
Thanks for clearing that up though - I was mistakenly under the impression that the TF701 still suffered from slow-flash-memory issues...
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Why not wait for ASUS to come out with a TF702? Maybe ASUS will finally make the perfect Transformer -- I'd hope ASUS is aware they flubbed up the dock & will fix it.
When I had my Google Account sync problem in cromi-X, I bought the Dell XPS 12 (work emergency). I really like it.

Well, for some reason, Asus just can't seem to a Transformer device just right... It seems that there have been some pretty major issues with every transformer they've released - sometimes hardware-related and sometimes software-related:
- TF101 - This was probably the best Transformer of all time - had stereo speakers (on the sides), was lightweight and performed very well for it's time. The keyboard dock was just about perfect as well. I really like the TF101 - until they broke the firmware for it and just abandoned it with broken firmware (random reboots).
- TF201 - This one was a disaster from day one - had a lot of hardware issues including weak wifi and GPS reception... Didn't buy this one, luckily.
- TF700 - We all know about the problems with this one - SLOW flash memory! Then, once again, the "final" firmware release left a few things broken - I constantly get some kind of major "blue" screen interference when using a mouse (or the trackpad), mainly due to the calendar widget, I believe. Most folks also have battery drain problems, which appear to be a result of a software issue. Of course, Asus didn't fix the issues and just moved onto a new device.
- TF701 - Seems they fixed the slow flash memory but they broke the keyboard dock!
As you can see, I'm weary of waiting for the next "almost great" Asus tablet - and for good reason, I think. While Asus is quick to release new versions of firmware, the releases are usually bug-ridden and have some pretty big issues and then they just abandon the device and release a new one, leaving us with decent hardware (usually), but bug-ridden software.
Based on their history, I just don't have any faith that Asus will release a great Transformer...
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I hear ya. I've already sworn off ASUS ... until I hear consistent, excellent USER feedback about any future device I'd consider.
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jtrosky said:
Well, for some reason, Asus just can't seem to a Transformer device just right... It seems that there have been some pretty major issues with every transformer they've released - sometimes hardware-related and sometimes software-related:
- TF101 - This was probably the best Transformer of all time - had stereo speakers (on the sides), was lightweight and performed very well for it's time. The keyboard dock was just about perfect as well. I really like the TF101 - until they broke the firmware for it and just abandoned it with broken firmware (random reboots).
- TF201 - This one was a disaster from day one - had a lot of hardware issues including weak wifi and GPS reception... Didn't buy this one, luckily.
- TF700 - We all know about the problems with this one - SLOW flash memory! Then, once again, the "final" firmware release left a few things broken - I constantly get some kind of major "blue" screen interference when using a mouse (or the trackpad), mainly due to the calendar widget, I believe. Most folks also have battery drain problems, which appear to be a result of a software issue. Of course, Asus didn't fix the issues and just moved onto a new device.
- TF701 - Seems they fixed the slow flash memory but they broke the keyboard dock!
As you can see, I'm weary of waiting for the next "almost great" Asus tablet - and for good reason, I think. While Asus is quick to release new versions of firmware, the releases are usually bug-ridden and have some pretty big issues and then they just abandon the device and release a new one, leaving us with decent hardware (usually), but bug-ridden software.
Based on their history, I just don't have any faith that Asus will release a great Transformer...
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This. I did a good bit of research, but when I went to buy my TF700 there was very little info about the internal i/o issues. I had never owned a previous ASUS device but had seen all of those issues, but it seemed that the issues were always treated as "all the previous issues from the TF series are fixed in the TF700".
Having seen sbdags' report on the power of the TF701, I'm sorely tempted to get that device, but since it is going to be a while before I get one, I'll definitely be checking out the competition. But I ma just like you - I am absolutely addicted to the (TF Series) dock and the battery in it....
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I hear ya. I've already sworn off ASUS ... until I hear consistent, excellent USER feedback about any future device I'd consider.
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I am not sure you'll ever have consistent excellent USER feedback (though you may have a consistent majority of positive user reviews) - there are always going to be people who do not like a device for whatever reason. I'm like that regarding iOS-based devices - never gonna own one. No matter how good a device is from crapple, I'll never own one - I would have in the past gone with a Mac as an additional machine, but now that I can do Hackintoshs, I'll never buy a mac.
In the past I've been the same way about Samsung as well, but as it is coming time for a new phone, I might have no choice but to look into a Sammy for a phone...but I have not researched phones in so long, I have no real clue what a good powerful phone is anymore lol.

If you're cool with stock KitKat with added apps that will eventually be copied by others, check out the moto x. I know it has a rap for being underpowered, but this phone is easily the best smartphone I've had yet. If my X breaks tomorrow, I'm buying another one at motomaker.com within the hour.
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I was actually watching that pretty heavily over at DroidRZR last year when it was in development. I'm pissed the Google turned around and sold MotoMobi out after grabbing only the patents, because I really thought that Google + MotoMobi was going to be a total win situation, hands down, in spite of some info I found out about MotoMobi....
And this time I'm getting a dev edition lol....

Moto X comes in Dev edition, too. Anyway, just my 2 pennies worth. Have fun picking a new phone, @johnlgalt !
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I am well aware that the dock is no where near as functional as on our Transformer, but I still think this new Lenovo tablet (and matching keyboard) does look interesting. I do not know how the processor fares against our TF700s though...
Search for this on YouTube to see a short presentation of the device and dock (I am not allowed to post links): MWC 2014 Lenovo Yoga Tablet 10 HD+

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Those who up'd from TF101 - was it worth it ?

I have 2 of TF101 plus a dock. Thinking about getting TF700 . Those who took the route - what are your impressions ?
I use the table 90% of the time as ebook reader - pdf and epub, using Mantano reader most of the time. Higher rez should make for a better ebook experience I hope, although I can not claim that I find TF101's screen lacking in clarity/sharpness department.
So far I dont feel that dropping $700 will fetch me much outside of small incremental gains over TF101
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I have 2 of TF101 plus a dock. Thinking about getting TF700 . Those who took the route - what are your impressions ?
I use the table 90% of the time as ebook reader - pdf and epub, using Mantano reader most of the time. Higher rez should make for a better ebook experience I hope, although I can not claim that I find TF101's screen lacking in clarity/sharpness department.
So far I dont feel that dropping $700 will fetch me much outside of small incremental gains over TF101
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Biggest advantage is screen. Most apps don't push the 101 cpu anyway. But the screen is amazing and i loved tf101 screen too. For books it's probably iffy. I read a lot of comics and all I can say is wow. It's also a little thinner and lighter but i dont find it much easier to hold for reading. So if you're a gamer or you read comics or magazines its totally worth it.
if you read books a lot then i think you should get a 7 inch tablet like the nexus 7, it's light, easy to hold and you can hold it by 1 hand without getting tired. more importantly the nexus 7 has a very good screen display (1280x800)
For me I went from a TF101 to a TF201 and then to my current TF700T. From the TF101 you will notice a faster unit, better screen, thinner profile unit (both for the tablet as well as the dock keyboard), better battery length (at least for me). On the negative you will have one less USB port to use. I ended up getting a small USB hub to use and all of the things I used the USB ports on the TF101 would connect into the USB hub and work just fine, in fact all at the same time! Do not get the TF201 as an interim step simply because the GPS and in some instances the WiFi radios do not work or work in a restricted way. The TF700T that I have all of its radios work just fine.
I'm getting worse battery life but I'm experimenting with uninstalling and disabling apps and any background stuff (updates/sync/etc), I'm hopeful it will improve.
ergonomics, fit and finish, display resolution and readability, brightness, wifi range, storage (got 64GB with a 64GB card on the way), and the placement of controls and i/o connectors - hell yes, it's a primo upgrade from the Tf101.
Color balance on the screen is not good, too yellow, and battery life like I said is terrible compared to the TF101. I also don't like how the dock charges the battery, much prefer the TF101's method of keeping the tab at 100%.
Coming from a TF101 was a big jump for me. I decided to wait for the nicer screen. The screen and much more powerful CPU make watching movies a lot better.
I'm having to get use to the button and input placements, especially the power button. Coming from a TF101 dock to a TF201 dock, I was sad to lose a USB port. I still have my TF101, though I am trying to get rid of it, but once more apps are updated, and rooting/recovery becomes easy/one-click I will not use it again.
I'm coming straight from a rooted tf101 which I sold tablet/dock to a buddy of mine for $250. I mainly used my tablet for browsing the internet and watching movies. As you already know, the screen is much nicer and the engine in this thing is blazing. I get random lags here and there even after the newest update, but it can only get better especially after rooting and custom roms become more widely available. My tf101 couldn't even play 720p mkvs, but the tf700t handled the highest quality 1080p mkvs that I have without a hiccup. Colors are very vibrant imo. As far as internet browsing, some content takes slightly longer to render because of the hd screen I presume, but I know it will get better. It's lighter and more sleek than my bulky brown tf101. I also noticed I don't get as much battery drain while sleeping than I did with my tf101. As others have stated, I would rather my dock drain first leaving my tablet at 100% instead of both draining simultaneously.
The tf101 advantages were the 2 speakers and the two usb ports. I bought a small cheap rechargable speaker from walmart for $8 which was surprisingly useful called bomb speaker. I will also get a usb hub from amazon so those disadvantages are no deal breaker to me.
Just curious - what the hell are you guys connecting to your TF700 where one USB port isn't enough for normal use? I don't think I've even used both USB ports at the same time on my TF101, so 1 USB port didn't seem like a problem. I'm just curious what types of devices you guys connect where you need more than one USB port normally...
Thanks!
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jtrosky said:
Just curious - what the hell are you guys connecting to your TF700 where one USB port isn't enough for normal use? I don't think I've even used both USB ports at the same time on my TF101, so 1 USB port didn't seem like a problem. I'm just curious what types of devices you guys connect where you need more than one USB port normally...
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Not a big deal but I have a low profile usb thumb drive in my dock at all times, and would then want to attach a mouse. Now I have to pull it to use mouse
rashid11 said:
I have 2 of TF101 plus a dock. Thinking about getting TF700 . Those who took the route - what are your impressions ?
I use the table 90% of the time as ebook reader - pdf and epub, using Mantano reader most of the time. Higher rez should make for a better ebook experience I hope, although I can not claim that I find TF101's screen lacking in clarity/sharpness department.
So far I dont feel that dropping $700 will fetch me much outside of small incremental gains over TF101
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The screen alone is worth the money.
I was never able to read a lot on my TF101G I still used my ebook reader because it looked so pixaleted on the TF101G.
However with the TF700 that problem is gone and I just like it very much.
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jtrosky said:
Just curious - what the hell are you guys connecting to your TF700 where one USB port isn't enough for normal use? I don't think I've even used both USB ports at the same time on my TF101, so 1 USB port didn't seem like a problem. I'm just curious what types of devices you guys connect where you need more than one USB port normally...
Thanks!
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I connect a wireless mouse at times as well as a external USB cased hard drive. Also occasionally a memory stick. The USB hub is also used for my Asus UX31E for the same devices.
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I connect a wireless mouse at times as well as a external USB cased hard drive. Also occasionally a memory stick. The USB hub is also used for my Asus UX31E for the same devices.
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Ahh, I've been using a bluetooth mouse, which leaves the USB port free... Wasn't thinking about a mouse that required a USB port - then I could see two USB ports being useful....
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rashid11 said:
I have 2 of TF101 plus a dock. Thinking about getting TF700 . Those who took the route - what are your impressions ?
I use the table 90% of the time as ebook reader - pdf and epub, using Mantano reader most of the time. Higher rez should make for a better ebook experience I hope, although I can not claim that I find TF101's screen lacking in clarity/sharpness department.
So far I dont feel that dropping $700 will fetch me much outside of small incremental gains over TF101
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I upgraded from the TF1010. The factors for me were the screen, the faster speed and the lighter weight. The TF101 was just starting to feel a little heavy for me, especially once I had it in a case. My TF101 was also starting to feel a little sluggish, so I decided to go for it. Couldn't be happier, the TF700 is really smooth and I haven't had any problems, with the exception of the battery life, I am one of those people that feel the Wifi is draining the battery pretty quickly.
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if you read books a lot then i think you should get a 7 inch tablet like the nexus 7, it's light, easy to hold and you can hold it by 1 hand without getting tired. more importantly the nexus 7 has a very good screen display (1280x800)
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If you read a lot of Comics or magazines or illustrated books, I would give the exact opposite advice. I have a 7" and 10.1" device and comics/magazines are unbearable on the 7 incher after having used a 10 incher. Provided you're strong enough to hold up the 10 incher. LOL.
That said, if 90% of your application is eBooks and you have already outlaid for the TF101 dock, I personally would not even consider upgrading until the next device given the cost for what would only be a very small incremental improvement for your application.
ASUS still needs to get their firmware act together for the T3 devices and QA is still something I'd be wondering about.
I upgraded from the prime after selling it (originally was going to get the Acer a700, glad I passed on that debacle). It was definitely worth it although I do miss AOKP and Jermaine's other work.
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Yes. Just for the screen
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I also primarily use mine as an ebook reader (using the Aldiko app), and also use a few different news ready apps (Currents, Appy Geek and Pulse primarily).
I don't see much of a difference in how crisp the text is in any of these apps, however on the TF101 the white background had very faint artifacts (you might see them as little dots, or a pattern of some sort) which the TF700 doesn't. The white background on the TF700 is just solid white to my eyes. That makes reading for a long time much easier on my eyes.
I never really noticed that 'artifacts' (Warehouse 13 anyone? ) on the TF101 until I tried (and returned) an iPad 3. The screen on the iPad is gorgeous, as one would expect, but IOS is not for me. If there is a difference between the iPad and the TF700 screens, it's not something that *I* can see. I know the iPad has a somewhat higher resolution, but it's not enough for me to tell the difference - and that's all that matters.
So, in short, go for it - you'll love it.
I actually wasn't planning on upgrading, but the charging port on my TF101 broke about a week ago and the RMA process was going to take a few weeks so I figured why not? Honestly if my TF101 hadn't broken I would have been fine with it for another few months at least, if not another year.
As mentioned above, battery life isn't as good. Screen is excellent. I do notice considerably less lag when typing, especially in a browser. Loading pages is a bit snappier. It's a nice upgrade, but not worth $500 IMO, unless you have to like I did.
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I actually wasn't planning on upgrading, but the charging port on my TF101 broke about a week ago and the RMA process was going to take a few weeks so I figured why not? Honestly if my TF101 hadn't broken I would have been fine with it for another few months at least, if not another year.
As mentioned above, battery life isn't as good. Screen is excellent. I do notice considerably less lag when typing, especially in a browser. Loading pages is a bit snappier. It's a nice upgrade, but not worth $500 IMO, unless you have to like I did.
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That's why I sold mine for 200$ .
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That's why I sold mine for 200$ .
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Clearly you don't have a wife that swipes your gadgets when you're done with them.

Sold my galaxy note 10.1 for buying infinty

I sold my galaxy note 10.1 for buying the infinity. It wasnt any problems with the note. I read alot, and i find the resolution is a major let down for me. The screen have a superb quality on images, but on text its not quite good as a high resolution screen.
Ive followed a bit on this forum. Seems like this pad got so many problems. Are you satisfied with your infinty? Should I wait for the next pad?
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I sold my galaxy note 10.1 for buying the infinity. It wasnt any problems with the note. I read alot, and i find the resolution is a major let down for me. The screen have a superb quality on images, but on text its not quite good as a high resolution screen.
Ive followed a bit on this forum. Seems like this pad got so many problems. Are you satisfied with your infinty? Should I wait for the next pad?
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I would wait now after I know better..
Probably would wait that Samsung brings some high res non plastic out. Asus has lost my confidence in them
I love it.
I bought mine 5 weeks ago and have no regrets. I use it every day. Even though there are some problems, they aren't show-stoppers. The Infinity is, in my book, still the best tablet. The issues will be ironed out - if not by Asus, then by our own developers. If you're OCD and your tablet has to be perfect, keep looking... check back in the next month or two and see how the TF700 is with Jelly Bean. I'm enjoying the heck out of mine and love knowing that it'll only get better and better. Just my 2 cents.
You get a FHD screen and dock. You also get less stability and some questionable design choices with the terrible ssd nand and below average battery life due to the tegra 3 and fhd screen. Apple had the sense to use a better dedicated gpu and almost double the battery size for the fhd screen.
The tf700 does a lot of things fine but it has been a trial in patience. My tf300 had much better performance. The tf700 should've had an upgraded gpu, battery, and sad. It got none if these things. They seemed to spend all their time fixing the mistakes of the prime and did not anticipate issues with introducing a fhd screen.
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007shaolin said:
I sold my galaxy note 10.1 for buying the infinity. It wasnt any problems with the note. I read alot, and i find the resolution is a major let down for me. The screen have a superb quality on images, but on text its not quite good as a high resolution screen.
Ive followed a bit on this forum. Seems like this pad got so many problems. Are you satisfied with your infinty? Should I wait for the next pad?
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I chose the Infinity over the Note for the same reason, the FHD and the fact I read a lot. I am satisfied with it. You're in a good position now to decide this for yourself since the issues are mostly known already. I've not had quality issues, so far, but performance is lower than that of the Note. Would I still buy it again today? Yes, I think so. I upgraded from a Nook Color (on CM7) and since getting the Infinity I've been spending a ton of hours on it and enjoy it so much that I can't see myself returning it and just waiting (or going with lower res). If you have another tablet you're OK with as a stop gap then maybe wait, if not then go for it and enjoy it. In 2 years time we're likely to upgrade anyway and it's not like it's a pain to use now, it's just not as perfect as one would hope from a flagship product.
Another option is to wait for JB and decide then, that is if you feel you can't stomach the current reported performance / stability issues (which I seldom come across personally).
Go for it! Don't worry about the reports of the "horrible SSD", etc - the tablet runs fine... Some people put way too much stock in benchmark results.
The majority of users don't have 2gb files downloading in the background while trying to do other work, so the "SSD slowness" isn't even noticeable for most people.
Jelly Bean is supposed to be released very soon as well, so that should also boost performance. I have a Nexus 7, which is also manufactured by Asus (with the same "horrible" SSD) and it runs beautifully. I expect the TF700 performance to be similar to the Nexus 7 with Jelly Bean...
I would, however, recommend buying at a local retailer if possible - Asus quality control has been really bad on the TF700, so there is a chance that you may need to exchange it once or twice before getting a "good" one...
Besides, if you find you don't like it, you can always return it....
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I would wait now after I know better..
Probably would wait that Samsung brings some high res non plastic out. Asus has lost my confidence in them
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Feel the same way, Infinity might be Aluminum but it's made so terribly with the separating glass and cheap internal memory that is believed to be the reason this, otherwise great tablet, has i/o issues.
Just get it! The more you read the more you let others control your thinking and provides the haters sway your thinking. Unless that's what your looking for, its a great tablet. I love the keyboard combo and battery life is superb for someone that watches movies and shows daily. FULL HD is a must! Super IPS+ can't be beat. I rarely have to charge my tablet either. Now that Jelly Bean is confirmed, its even more appealing now then ever. Just go for it. Buy it at Best Buy so you'll have 30 days to decide.
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I'm not a hater, I'm just saying the Infinity could be better than it is and I think it's worth waiting for something else. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the tab especially now with browser2ram but it's definitely got a LOT of issues.
The biggest annoyance is that I have to restart the tab almost daily if I want to play Dead Trigger, also Asus left out the drivers for the PS3 controller so you NEED to root if you want to use one over bluetooth as opposed to every other ics device. The battery should have been bigger, I've drained it in sub 4 hours before from 100 to 3% playing Jelly Defense. Granted, that's a lot of Jelly Defense but it should last longer than that. The i/o issues is the biggest thing, browsing on this tab with Chrome is unbearable at best. Two things make it a lot better to browse on, Dolphin Pad beta and the browser2ram apk although the latter of which only works with the default browser.
Again, I don't hate the Infinity and I enjoy using it everyday but it cost a good amount of money and it's frustrating that Asus cut corners and it shows. Asus customer service also seems like it leaves a lot to be desired.
Somehow i feel like I shouldn't sell my note. It has absolute no problems. no lag, no hickups, no force close, fast browser, a very good pen, it made of plastic but feels very solid, i accidental dropped it once and it got no scratches, no damages where made. Man i wish samsung made a tablet with hd+ screen.
Btw, I bought the infinity over internet, the store got 45 days with full right to return if you are not satisfied. Finger cross that this tablet wont make any problem for me.
Re: Some of the points brought up here.
Battery life: From my perspective, this thing has fantastic battery life. I manage my resources pretty well, though. With the dock, it goes into unprecedented territory, I can use the system all day long on a full dock+tab charge.
Usage: If your primary application is reading, I don't think you're going to see many problems in the way of stability and you will find the screen wonderful and highly usable.
Stability: This is a tough one. If you want something that is super stable without any maintenance/tweaking/learning, yes, look elsewhere. My system as I have configured it only really has frequent problems with 3D games and that is due to a kernel graphics driver bug that has a fix coming out with the next OS update (so I am hopeful this one last issue will be fixed). Using this tab as a daily driver, I do not really have any major issues at this point, it's as stable and usable as any other android device I have owned except for the gaming problem.
Storage: The slow RAM everyone is complaining about here is nand flash that functions like a virtual hard disk. The actual system memory is perfectly functional dynamic RAM. The end result of this is that sometimes, this slow "disk" will act as a bottleneck and make the entire tab slow down. Honestly, the only time I see much of this is when running benchmarks, LOL. My ADHD is not so bad that I want to throw the tablet against a wall if there is a 300 millisecond pause when performing some operation. So, yeah, I DO think this is a weakness and a poor design choice by ASUS' engineers but in practice it is rarely a real world issue for me.
QA: Some folks have had some legitimately serious issues but I think a huge majority of the stuff that is cited here could have been mitigated by buying at a brick and mortar store with a decent return policy. I have not seen any hardware defect on the tablets I have owned that could not be indentified and exchanged within a 24 hour period. On a forum where people are coming to look for help, you're going to hear the horror stories so while I feel sorry for these folks I do not think some of these issues are super high frequency.
If you don't have that kind of safety net available in your purchasing situation, then, yes, I would be concerned about physical defects in a TF tab and would recommend avoiding one. But if you are able to buy it at a decent place like Best Buy, etc, you will find a good one and you will not get burned by this with the caveat that you may have to be patient enough to evaluate/inspect and return one.
Bottom Line: It's a great tab, the dock is amazing, the screen is glorious, the CPU is ridiculously fast. It has some minor stability issues that require a bit of learning configuring tweaking. It has slow I/O that can sometimes unnecessarily throttle the CPU, so if you are going to download torrents or surf high bandwidth adult web sites it may not be for you LOL . Since ASUS QA has been weak I would also only recommend purchasing in a situation where an exchange can be handled easily.
FWIW, there's no tab out right now I would trade it for.
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I'm not a hater, I'm just saying the Infinity could be better than it is and I think it's worth waiting for something else. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the tab especially now with browser2ram but it's definitely got a LOT of issues.
The biggest annoyance is that I have to restart the tab almost daily if I want to play Dead Trigger, also Asus left out the drivers for the PS3 controller so you NEED to root if you want to use one over bluetooth as opposed to every other ics device. The battery should have been bigger, I've drained it in sub 4 hours before from 100 to 3% playing Jelly Defense. Granted, that's a lot of Jelly Defense but it should last longer than that. The i/o issues is the biggest thing, browsing on this tab with Chrome is unbearable at best. Two things make it a lot better to browse on, Dolphin Pad beta and the browser2ram apk although the latter of which only works with the default browser.
Again, I don't hate the Infinity and I enjoy using it everyday but it cost a good amount of money and it's frustrating that Asus cut corners and it shows. Asus customer service also seems like it leaves a lot to be desired.
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That's good your not a hater. Honestly every tablet you will come across will have issues. NOTE, IPADS, TRANSFORMERS. I can also sit here and advise others to wait for the next best thing but that kind of mentality will just prevent you from enjoying the now. The now is the Infinity.
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I also just returned my Note 10.1 for the Infinity. I really liked the Note for the s-pen and all, but I quickly found that i never used it for what it was for. For me the tablet is a consumption device and to be used as a mobile solution for my online classes. The Infinity does this very well, and the screen resolution is more noticeable than i expected.
So far very happy with the Infinity.
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That's good your not a hater. Honestly every tablet you will come across will have issues. NOTE, IPADS, TRANSFORMERS. I can also sit here and advise others to wait for the next best thing but that kind of mentality will just prevent you from enjoying the now. The now is the Infinity.
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I'm aware you could sit and always be waiting for the next best thing and that thing will never come. I just think, now knowing Asus cheaped out, it's worth waiting for something else. Maybe Jelly Bean will fix a lot of the issues I have with this thing and my opinion will change, not sure. I hope it does
Having said all of that, the screen does kick an insurmountable amount of ass. It's just downright gorgeous.
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I sold my galaxy note 10.1 for buying the infinity. It wasnt any problems with the note. I read alot, and i find the resolution is a major let down for me. The screen have a superb quality on images, but on text its not quite good as a high resolution screen.
Ive followed a bit on this forum. Seems like this pad got so many problems. Are you satisfied with your infinty? Should I wait for the next pad?
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I had Galaxy note for 3 weeks and returned it for Infinity. I had infinity before note... and essentially came back because of screen resolution.
If you can wait, you should wait. Simply as others said, longer you wait better system always show up. That's the world of technology. But I doubt nothing that replace Infinity in next a few months for following reasons:
1. Samsung - Just released Note. If they release the higher resolution tablet or even announce about higher resolution tablet within next couple months, that is horrible thing as they will lose its own sales from Note and upset consumer who purchased one. Not only Note, but also they have Windows 8 tablet coming in end of October with high resolution screen but price tag of $1100+. So again, I don't think they want to compete with that either.
2. ASUS - Similar story. They just released infinity and probably purposely made upcoming Windows 8 tablet HD screen rather than FHD, so they won't compete with Infinity. And therefore, again highly doubtful they will be releasing anything new that is complete superior to the infinity within next few months.
Other vendors are similar like Sony and Acer just released their tablets as well.
The uncertain zone is Windows tablet from other vendors; however, among the currently announced windows tablet including from ASUS, Samsung, Acer, Dell, Microsoft (I may be missing some), there is only one with Full HD, which is Samsung's Ativ Smart Pro but this model again costs $1100 but its battery life is 5 hours of DVD play. So to me this proves that most likely all Full HD windows tablet that is coming in near future will be around the same price and likely with poor battery life for a while.
So yeah, basically if you are looking for full HD tablet you won't have much choice for next a few months. But I am sure by the time next iPad rumor start to arise, you see more Android tablet.
*I excluded Kindle HD here, because I simply don't think they are in same class but if you think they are your option, that's another option.
As for my experience, Infinity is much more stable than before for me and the only reason I initially gave up on infinity was too frequent ANR, and too slow browser loading time. Both of which I got it fixed (well ANR is probably not what I did but by firmware). So yes. this is indeed my ideal tablet at the moment.
I just bought my infinity a couple of days ago and I can't be happier. I use it for some ebooks, as I'm a Dr. of Physical Therapy student and the ebooks are MUCH cheaper.
I haven't used the Note, but what sold me on the infinity is how it essentially works like a "netbook" and it has actually replaced my netbook. I only wish there was a better microsoft office app, the app that came pre-loaded isn't the best, but it works.
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I just bought my infinity a couple of days ago and I can't be happier. I use it for some ebooks, as I'm a Dr. of Physical Therapy student and the ebooks are MUCH cheaper.
I haven't used the Note, but what sold me on the infinity is how it essentially works like a "netbook" and it has actually replaced my netbook. I only wish there was a better microsoft office app, the app that came pre-loaded isn't the best, but it works.
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Office Suite Pro on sale in the Play store for $0.25. Best Office app out there imho.
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clenz said:
Office Suite Pro on sale in the Play store for $0.25. Best Office app out there imho.
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25 cents!! That's amazing deal. Even the app sucks nothing to lose other than 25 cents!! Thanks for the information. I believe retail price is like $15 or $19 like others isn't it?
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Just get it! The more you read the more you let others control your thinking and provides the haters sway your thinking. Unless that's what your looking for, its a great tablet. I love the keyboard combo and battery life is superb for someone that watches movies and shows daily. FULL HD is a must! Super IPS+ can't be beat. I rarely have to charge my tablet either. Now that Jelly Bean is confirmed, its even more appealing now then ever. Just go for it. Buy it at Best Buy so you'll have 30 days to decide.
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100% agreed.
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Just get it! The more you read the more you let others control your thinking and provides the haters sway your thinking. Unless that's what your looking for, its a great tablet. I love the keyboard combo and battery life is superb for someone that watches movies and shows daily. FULL HD is a must! Super IPS+ can't be beat. I rarely have to charge my tablet either. Now that Jelly Bean is confirmed, its even more appealing now then ever. Just go for it. Buy it at Best Buy so you'll have 30 days to decide.
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When yuo say you rarely have to charge it, how often is that?
After using mine for reading comics, a few podcasts and tv, web browsing, i find I'm getting 3.5/ 4 hous which is pretty ****.

Buy TF700 or wait?

Hello, I want to get a new tablet (currently using and android'ed Touchpad still), and HD resolution is important to me. I've been keeping an eye on the TF700 and now have a chance to grab one for about $345 new. But I know some newer HD tablets were announced at CES and are on the horizon for some time (but I don't think pricing has been announced). At this point should I just hold off to see what is coming, or at that price am I safe to grab the TF700 and be happy for a while to come.
My primary uses will be reading Comics, web browsing, and 720p videos/movies.
Thanks to any help!
6 months ago I would have said buy but today I would wait. The lag issue is a pia (at least if you stick with stock rom) and there are some new hd tablets comming out in the next 3-6 months. The only thing i don't know is if they will have sd slots (which is a must for me but appears to be a nono to google).
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Hello, I want to get a new tablet (currently using and android'ed Touchpad still), and HD resolution is important to me. I've been keeping an eye on the TF700 and now have a chance to grab one for about $345 new. But I know some newer HD tablets were announced at CES and are on the horizon for some time (but I don't think pricing has been announced). At this point should I just hold off to see what is coming, or at that price am I safe to grab the TF700 and be happy for a while to come.
My primary uses will be reading Comics, web browsing, and 720p videos/movies.
Thanks to any help!
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6 months ago I would have said buy but today I would wait. The lag issue is a pia (at least if you stick with stock rom) and there are some new hd tablets comming out in the next 3-6 months. The only thing i don't know is if they will have sd slots (which is a must for me but appears to be a nono to google).
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Thank you for response, I have no issue modding to a different rom, I've done it on other tablets / phones before (heck I'm using a touchpad modded from webOS to android now anyways). But if modding it doesn't help much then that is a concern.
My other concern was the newer tablets will be priced again in the 400-500 range, or the lower priced HD tablets will have specs worse than the transformer already has.
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Thank you for response, I have no issue modding to a different rom, I've done it on other tablets / phones before (heck I'm using a touchpad modded from webOS to android now anyways). But if modding it doesn't help much then that is a concern.
My other concern was the newer tablets will be priced again in the 400-500 range, or the lower priced HD tablets will have specs worse than the transformer already has.
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My honest opinion, it's very hard to find a FULLY LOADED TABLET like tf700 with the highest resolution screen. If you willing to unlock to use custom rom. I would say YES 100%.
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My honest opinion, it's very hard to find a FULLY LOADED TABLET like tf700 with the highest resolution screen. If you willing to unlock to use custom rom. I would say YES 100%.
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Thanks for your opinion. I pulled the trigger. Worse case if I'm really unhappy I will return it before I unlock it.
Thanks for advice!!!!
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Thanks for your opinion. I pulled the trigger. Worse case if I'm really unhappy I will return it before I unlock it.
Thanks for advice!!!!
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smart decision!!! bravo!
I bought mine on ebay for 350$ used, well worth it, beautiful screen and nice speed, glad you bought it, 345$ new is nuts, is that a ebay deal or?
Well today there are two alternatives; the acer and nexus 10. The acer is not a bad tablet but it runs a bit warmer and I think it has shorter battery life ( you should check reviews; it's been a while since i've read them). The nexus 10 biggest con is no sd slot but the recent mobiltech - http://www.mobiletechreview.com/tablets/Google-Nexus-10.htm - was over the top positive if you don't need an that sd slot.
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I'm not unhappy I have the tf700 but the lag thing is a major headache when updating or browsing a lot of web pages and given the price point of the tablet it is a bit downer.
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Anyways I'll probably stick with it another year and then pick up a 13inch ultra-book (sub 3lb) with 1080p screen.
Yeah I agree be wise to wait. The new Sony, Samsung, Visio etc.. coming out.
I think you should wait ! I own the tf700 and I'm not pleased with it mostly because of the lag and random reboots. Sony announced an HD tablet that seems to be a good one. Anyway you should wait until MWC in Barcelona at the end of next month before you make up your mind.
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I think you should wait ! I own the tf700 and I'm not pleased with it mostly because of the lag and random reboots. Sony announced an HD tablet that seems to be a good one. Anyway you should wait until MWC in Barcelona at the end of next month before you make up your mind.
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But Sony announces great things and releases them 6 months after everyone else. That's why their phone sales are in the toilet. They just came out with a new one, nice phone, but it is about the same as a one x, which came out about 9 months ago. I will also admit the lag issue, but still the best one out there, the screen is amazing.
Arguments for the TF700:
- Screen! 1920*1200.
- Screen. 700 nits brightness and great contrast. Almost twice as bright as an iPad 3.
- Keyboard dock. With additional battery and USB.
- microSD card slot, and full size SD card slot in the dock.
- It looks great.
Arguments against the TF700:
- Lag. Slow internal eMMC. (can be worked around with custom ROMs, but not fully solved.)
- Unlocking to install custom ROMs voids your warranty!
- Unlocking is a lottery, and you still can't replace the bootloader on an unlocked device. (the unlocking tool simply does not work for some people and they get no help from Asus.)
- Somewhat unstable, occasional random reboots, hangs with white screen.
- Build quality issues - people report the docking mechanism breaking, light bleed, screen getting loose.
- Only 1 GB RAM and old (for 2013) Tegra 3 SoC.
- Some software that works on other tablets is not available for the TF700.
- Loudspeaker isn't great.
Some folks are replying without seeming to have read the other comments beyond the first. The OP has already made a move on the TF700T.
For the OP's needs "reading Comics, web browsing, and 720p videos/movie", the TF700T is more than suitable.
No doubt the N10 has higher performance, but at the cost of far worse battery life. And you don't really need an N10 for "reading Comics, web browsing, and 720p videos/movie". I guess you don't "need" a TF700T for that either. Lower ranking devices could fit that bill just fine.
But considering the OP has purchased aTF700T, I think they'll enjoy it.
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Some folks are replying without seeming to have read the other comments beyond the first. The OP has already made a move on the TF700T.
For the OP's needs "reading Comics, web browsing, and 720p videos/movie", the TF700T is more than suitable.
No doubt the N10 has higher performance, but at the cost of far worse battery life. And you don't really need an N10 for "reading Comics, web browsing, and 720p videos/movie". I guess you don't "need" a TF700T for that either. Lower ranking devices could fit that bill just fine.
But considering the OP has purchased aTF700T, I think they'll enjoy it.
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Exactly, the N10 is nice and all, but I couldn't live without my MicroSD card, the OP will enjoy it a lot, the 1080p screen look brilliant with movies and text, and you can store tons of movies on a microsd
I just got my Infinity 64GB about 2 weeks ago. I'm pretty pleased with it so far. I have noticed a bit of lag on the web, but it's not horrible. I'm sure a fix will eventually come out for it. I don't see it staying that way forever. I'd probably like to eventually root it, but I get totally confused when reading the instructions on how to. I've only rooted my HTC Thunderbolt and that was a pretty in depth task.
I have noticed the little black line thing here and there but it's not too bad either. I figure a fix will come out for that as well.
I will say with 64GB I was able to load 13 High Quality (about 3 - 6gb each) movies on this thing and it works great! Think I might try knocking the quality down of the movie to a smaller file size so I can load a lot more on here. Just haven't found a ripper/compressor that I like that can create ripped movies without a lot of artifacting...
I'd say the most bothersome thing I've noticed with this tablet is the Light Bleed... however it's only noticed during a completely black screen. It's always got the factory warranty, plus I purchased a 3 year Square Trade warranty along with it so I'm good until 2016 with this bad boy.
This is a pretty interesting tablet coming out...
http://www.androidcentral.com/sony-announces-quad-core-10-inch-tablet-z
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and now have a chance to grab one for about $345 new.
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I'm always on the look out for my GF, she's in the market for a tablet. Where'd you find your deal?
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Do it if you are comfortable unlocking, flashing trwp, and installing Clean ROM. After doing so my tab is smoother than ipad4 at my work. New tablets may be coming out but i doubt they have a comprehensive KB dock as good as this one. Screen is better than retina display and other HD tableys bc of IPS+, screen brightness is as important as res due to glare issues, IPS+ is great for combatting this, and i have yet to see another device with super IPS+. The screen goes to 600 nits of brightness rather than 300-350, which is the highest ive ever seen in any tablet or laptop. The range of brightness settings is also badass, you can go to incresibly low to incredibly high, which is great but often unmentioned.
I have actually replaced my laptop and desktop with tf700. Since buying and flashing CROMI i have never touched my laptop/desktop. My workflow is better on this bc of gesture/KB dock combination. I couldnt be happier.
Plus the tf700 is a sexy fckin beast, nothing else out there looks as badass. The mfctring quality is sick. I have dropped mine from around 5 ft off the ground onto concrete on pretty much every edge of this device and it is still working as well as when i bought it. Slid off my kitchen table onto tile floor directly onto the creen and slid about 5 feet, yet the screen doesnt have a single scratch. GO TF700 lol.
If you don't need the keyboard dock. Then jump on the Nexus 10. But if you are planning to use the tf700 and rooting with a flashing rom. Pull the trigger. Tf700 rooted is a beast of a tablet. And just provides so much functionality with the dock. I mean extra battery, sd slots, usb slots. The full package.
Its never to late to RETURN IT! And you will find there are now some that have unlocked it had to send it back and Asus will not fix it even though it was a hard ware problem. I had just bought one a week ago. Would not even turn on. Just look at all the new stuff coming out some in just weeks others a few months. Better to wait. I am

Best Buy honors Manufacture warranty for TF700

Posting this here because I did not know this until today when my frequently drained TF700 since recent Android update was feeling hot like one of those hair warmers that mom use to wear.
Took it to Best Buy they looked at it, touched it, felt that it was warm enough to act as a foot warmer. Then they ushered me to the register for exchange or credit after they tried to use the tablet for a minute and it shut off on them.
Exited Best Buy with a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1
Free yourself from ASUS if you bought the TF700 from BB. I just did, owned the TF700 since July last year after I replaced the TF201 from BB manufacture honoring.
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Exited Best Buy with a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1
Free yourself from ASUS if you bought the TF700 from BB. I just did
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Minus the keyboard dock that transforms the tablet into a notebook. Many of us bought this particular line of tablet specifically for the keyboard dock so that we can conveniently have a convertible tablet or notebook anytime we like.
Glad you're happy with your Note 10.1, but no keyboard dock, no tablet for me.
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Minus the keyboard dock that transforms the tablet into a notebook. Many of us bought this particular line of tablet specifically for the keyboard dock so that we can conveniently have a convertible tablet or notebook anytime we like.
Glad you're happy with your Note 10.1, but no keyboard dock, no tablet for me.
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Exactly... It's stunning to me that there is still virtually no competition to the Transformer line of tablets...
A tablet without a keyboard dock is a non-starter for me now that I've gotten used to the Transformer devices...
It's really that simple for me.
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I couldn't get past the low res screen.
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I couldn't get past the low res screen.
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Yeah - that too! That explains your performance increase right there - much lower resolution!
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- Low res (1280x800 makes my eyes and my head hurt.)
- No keyboard (Have you tried writing 50+ pages of novel a day on a touchscreen? It's a nightmare!)
- No additional battery (I do 7+ hours a day of travelling... plus working during the rest on my tab.)
- No USB port (good luck hooking up a portable harddrive to a Note 10.1: It gives you a "Voltage too high" error. My work requires a 2TB USBdrive.)
- Only a MicroSD slot and no SD (DSLR's don't work with MicroSD cards... And now I have TWO MicroSD's of 64GB with me on top of the 64GB internal.)
- Lower brightness (Outside the Note 10.1 was near-unreadable.)
I'll stay with the TF700, thanks. For me the Note 10.1is far too restrictive.
Yeah I dont know that the Galaxy Tab 10.1 is much of an upgrade from the TF700. My Grandma gots a TF300 and I see the pixels and it drives me crazy. A full HD screen is the way to go, especially with dock, extra battery, All the storage capability, etc. I am glad you enjoy it, but I wouldnt as much as my Infinity.
Tylor
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UPDATE FOR TF700 USERS!!! AND THE 4.2.1 UPDATE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2204100
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- Low res (1280x800 makes my eyes and my head hurt.)
- No keyboard (Have you tried writing 50+ pages of novel a day on a touchscreen? It's a nightmare!)
- No additional battery (I do 7+ hours a day of travelling... plus working during the rest on my tab.)
- No USB port (good luck hooking up a portable harddrive to a Note 10.1: It gives you a "Voltage too high" error. My work requires a 2TB USBdrive.)
- Only a MicroSD slot and no SD (DSLR's don't work with MicroSD cards... And now I have TWO MicroSD's of 64GB with me on top of the 64GB internal.)
- Lower brightness (Outside the Note 10.1 was near-unreadable.)
I'll stay with the TF700, thanks. For me the Note 10.1is far too restrictive.
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My Macbook Pro and Dell Xps laptop have the same resolution and my head doesn't hurt working on it. Perhaps you need glasses if viewing 1280x800 makes your head hurt.
Why would I want to attach an external hard drive to a tablet. I don't even attach external drives to my laptops. If I want to transfer files or access files on a remote drive i. e. I just access it over a network share.
Typing 50+ pages is a pipe dream on a tablet let alone the transformer infinity which has the slowest glitchiest performance of any tablet I used. If I wanted to use a physical keyboard there are plenty of wireless keyboards available for the Android tablets.
In all it just sounds like you're trying to convince yourself to hold on to the TF700, if resolution was really your deal break then you made a mistake not getting the Samsung Nexus 10.
<sigh> - now that you got rid of your TF700, I thought we wouldn't have to hear your whining any more...
Guess I was wrong. Even though you don't even have a TF700, you somehow feel the need to keep coming back to the TF700 forums - why?
Please be happy with your device and let us be happy with ours - you don't see me coming over to the Galaxy forums bothering you, do you?
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jtrosky said:
<sigh> - now that you got rid of your TF700, I thought we wouldn't have to hear your whining any more...
Guess I was wrong. Even though you don't even have a TF700, you somehow feel the need to keep coming back to the TF700 forums - why?
Please be happy with your device and let us be happy with ours - you don't see me coming over to the Galaxy forums bothering you, do you?
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2
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You're posting here in my thread, no one forced you to renenter this thead to "hear my whining", you did that on your own free will.
I don't tell you how to post on a message board, you should spare the same courtesy to others.
the_game_master said:
My Macbook Pro and Dell Xps laptop have the same resolution and my head doesn't hurt working on it. Perhaps you need glasses if viewing 1280x800 makes your head hurt.
Why would I want to attach an external hard drive to a tablet. I don't even attach external drives to my laptops. If I want to transfer files or access files on a remote drive i. e. I just access it over a network share.
Typing 50+ pages is a pipe dream on a tablet let alone the transformer infinity which has the slowest glitchiest performance of any tablet I used. If I wanted to use a physical keyboard there are plenty of wireless keyboards available for the Android tablets.
In all it just sounds like you're trying to convince yourself to hold on to the TF700, if resolution was really your deal break then you made a mistake not getting the Samsung Nexus 10.
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I am not even going to dignify that with an argumentive response.
ShadowLea said:
I am not even going to dignify that with an argumentive response.
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Yeah, let's all ignore him - maybe he'll go away....
Although, I think he truly misses his TF700 - why else would he keep coming back to the TF700 forums? Or maybe he misses the abuse from us?
It's really simple - we are big boys - we can decide for ourselves which tablet fits our needs the best. It's a personal preference - there is no device that is "better" for everyone...
It's obvious that the_game_master had issues with his setup as there are plenty of folks that love their TF700's and use them daily without all of those "glitches"! User error comes to mind...
I'm sure he'll be whining over on the Galaxy forums within a week or two after he has enough time to mess with the Galaxy tab too...
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 2
the_game_master said:
I don't even attach external drives to my laptops.
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That would be because laptops come with harddrives (herp).
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Typing 50+ pages is a pipe dream on a tablet
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Really? Obviously people are. People are also replacing their laptops, and doing their entire home business from their Infinity's. Have ya looked around the forum at what people are actually doing with their Transformers?
the_game_master said:
the transformer infinity which has the slowest glitchiest performance of any tablet I used.
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From the factory, yes. But, once you unlock, root, and install CROMI and do a few tweaks, it's a totally different tablet. Still not as 100% smooth as other tablets, but that's a trade-off if you want a detachable keyboard with extra battery and USB ports.
We're glad you're happy with your new tablet. We're happy with ours. Being left in peace would be the next step.
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That would be because laptops come with harddrives (herp).
Really? Obviously people are. People are also replacing their laptops, and doing their entire home business from their Infinity's. Have ya looked around the forum at what people are actually doing with their Transformers?
From the factory, yes. But, once you unlock, root, and install CROMI and do a few tweaks, it's a totally different tablet. Still not as 100% smooth as other tablets, but that's a trade-off if you want a detachable keyboard with extra battery and USB ports.
We're glad you're happy with your new tablet. We're happy with ours. Being left in peace would be the next step.
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I agree completely. Many are extremely happy with their Infinity's and are using them as laptop replacements. A Cromi'd, or now a Cromix'd, will smack just about any tablet off the market right now and we owe that to our great and dedicated devs. Sorry you had such a problem, but this tablet has more than any other tablet out there. However, in the end, your loss, and our gain .
Tylor
Sent from my ASUS Transformer TF700T Infinity Pad Using Tapatalk HD
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UPDATE FOR TF700 USERS!!! AND THE 4.2.1 UPDATE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2204100
-BoneZ- said:
That would be because laptops come with harddrives (herp).
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What does that have to do with me not needing the use of a portable USB hard drive on my laptop? I don't need the use of a USB external drive period for either my laptops or tablets. Any additional storage outside of the MicroSD I keep on a network share.
Why lugg around an external hard drives to use on a device that's meant to be used portable and easy to go?
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Really? Obviously people are. People are also replacing their laptops, and doing their entire home business from their Infinity's. Have ya looked around the forum at what people are actually doing with their Transformers?
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Yes I looked around this forum and nobody is typing 50+ word document pages and using the Infinity as their primary computer successfully.
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We're glad you're happy with your new tablet. We're happy with ours. Being left in peace would be the next step.
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I'm glad you are happy with yours too. I'm speaking to those who want out because not everything is what it appears.
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What does that have to do with me not needing the use of a portable USB hard drive on my laptop? I don't need the use of a USB external drive period for either my laptops or tablets. Any additional storage outside of the MicroSD I keep on a network share.
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Good for you! :good: You obviously never leave your house.
I, however, travel all across Europe. You don't seriously believe there is a continent-wide free WiFi network, do you?
Why lugg around an external hard drives to use on a device that's meant to be used portable and easy to go?
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Why lug around a DSLR when you have a camera on your tab? Why lug around a tablet when you have a smartphone?
Because there's not enough space to store the backups of 8 64GB SDcards full of photographs, nor to store more than two Full-HD Blurays. Again, I do not have decent-speed internet access most of the day.
Yes I looked around this forum and nobody is typing 50+ word document pages and using the Infinity as their primary computer successfully.
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That's because those who do, you ignore or pretend that they're trying to convince themselves. I write all my reports on my tablet, as well as my novels. It works fine. The only reason the TF700 hasn't fully replaced my computer are Adobe CS5 and (serious)Games.
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Good for you! :good: You obviously never leave your house.
I, however, travel all across Europe. You don't seriously believe there is a continent-wide free WiFi network, do you?
Why lug around a DSLR when you have a camera on your tab? Why lug around a tablet when you have a smartphone?
Because there's not enough space to store the backups of 8 64GB SDcards full of photographs, nor to store more than two Full-HD Blurays. Again, I do not have decent-speed internet access most of the day.
That's because those who do, you ignore or pretend that they're trying to convince themselves. I write all my reports on my tablet, as well as my novels. It works fine. The only reason the TF700 hasn't fully replaced my computer are Adobe CS5 and (serious)Games.
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I agree. I use my tablet more then my desktop at home anymore, and I got an iphone but I only use it for tethering to my tablet lol. I have a gaming rig at home, but I dont believe a tablet is for heavy gaming. My computer weighs like 50 pounds and will smack any mobile device off its little stands.
Anywho, off topic, you write novels? Maybe I need to do some research and find a book of yours, if you got one officially published .
Tylor
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UPDATE FOR TF700 USERS!!! AND THE 4.2.1 UPDATE http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2204100
Tylorw1 said:
I agree. I use my tablet more then my desktop at home anymore, and I got an iphone but I only use it for tethering to my tablet lol. I have a gaming rig at home, but I dont believe a tablet is for heavy gaming. My computer weighs like 50 pounds and will smack any mobile device off its little stands.
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For present-day games my laptop is a little outdated, but back in 2009 (When I bought it) it was perfectly capable of running everything. (It's an Asus N70sv with 2.8ghz dualcore, 4gb ram and an Nvidia Geforce 130M. Really all I need to replace is my GPU, but I lack the money to do so.) It ran Crysis on Ultra at 30fps. (Though I'm still not sure exactly how it managed that.)
Anywho, off topic, you write novels? Maybe I need to do some research and find a book of yours, if you got one officially published .
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Sadly I'm not a paper-published author. I mainly write for my own enjoyment and occasionally as a project, but I do post my work online. (well, part of it. Most of it is still work in progress )
sbdags said:
I couldn't get past the low res screen.
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This pretty much.
I tried one and was VERY impressed with the S-Pen despite not being able to see a real use as at the end of the day typed notes will always be easier to read and the digitizing process was very off with my handwriting.
That and the fact that it felt like I still had that plastic screen protector that devices usually ship with once I'd been looking at Nexus / TF700 screens lower res is a no go
Guess I'm gonna head back to BB. Hope they take this one back. The vibrating motor is intermittently cutting in and out. When it stops working if I butt it on the lower right corner with the heel of my hand it'll come back on. With all the other disappointments I've had with this device this one is the last straw for me. It's a shame as I had a lot of confidence in Asus products until the 201 I had (returned) and now the 700.

Should we demand a free product exchange when the updated TF700T comes out?

Remember this?
http://www.pocketables.com/2012/07/...or-the-new-asus-transformer-pad-infinity.html
I really feel burned by Asus. My $500 tablet runs so slow and laggy. I've rooted it and run Cromi-X on it, which helps a little but the experience overall is still frustrating.
What drew me to the Transformer was the idea of the keyboard battery dock with expandable ports. However, even that's not worth it now.
I really feel like I got suckered into buying a high end tablet made with very, very low end memory components.
Do you think Asus will let us exchange our tablets for the newer model (and hopefully that newer model actually works)?
Neo3D said:
Remember this?
http://www.pocketables.com/2012/07/...or-the-new-asus-transformer-pad-infinity.html
I really feel burned by Asus. My $500 tablet runs so slow and laggy. I've rooted it and run Cromi-X on it, which helps a little but the experience overall is still frustrating.
What drew me to the Transformer was the idea of the keyboard battery dock with expandable ports. However, even that's not worth it now.
I really feel like I got suckered into buying a high end tablet made with very, very low end memory components.
Do you think Asus will let us exchange our tablets for the newer model (and hopefully that newer model actually works)?
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Not bloody likely. I just don't see it...but weirder things have happened.
Neo3D said:
Remember this?
http://www.pocketables.com/2012/07/...or-the-new-asus-transformer-pad-infinity.html
I really feel burned by Asus. My $500 tablet runs so slow and laggy. I've rooted it and run Cromi-X on it, which helps a little but the experience overall is still frustrating.
What drew me to the Transformer was the idea of the keyboard battery dock with expandable ports. However, even that's not worth it now.
I really feel like I got suckered into buying a high end tablet made with very, very low end memory components.
Do you think Asus will let us exchange our tablets for the newer model (and hopefully that newer model actually works)?
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That was something Best Buy did for their costumers. If it was something Asus wanted to be done then they would have notified customers who registered their devices like they did when they released the gps dongle. That was a true hardware mess up and an easier way to fix the problem for them. Technically speaking the Tf700 works to advertised manufacture specifications. Does that mean the device has its flaws, no. Since you did unlock it you made the decision to forgo any warranty on it if it's a less than a year old. If they were to do a swap out then it's their choice to include unlocked devices. Live in the EU then you have other protections.
To anyone still in their return window, if the tablet doesn't perform to what you desire then return it. It won't get drastically better. If you are still within a year you can try constantly rma and someone might issue you an exchange or return, if you get lucky. Otherwise unlock it if warranty is up and see the advances the developer community has made. The tablet really is a different device.
Based on reviews from users, apparently the TF701T is everything our TF700T should have been, minus the reboot problems (ASUS seems to have fixed it with a recent update, but obviously it is just speculation from a few owners of the TF701T) and the slight heat under heavy use. Having said that, to be fair, the TF700 has no hardware problems, even if the internal storage is slow, it is not defective in any ways, hardware-wise anyway. Personally I don't think it is right to demand such exchange from ASUS. Furthermore, my guess is that the Transformer line in general does not sell very well (I have yet to see any TF300 or TF700 being used in public, ever, only iPads and Galaxy Tabs), so we as a whole already account for a very small portion of ASUS' net income. Introducing such exchange program would most likely reduce that little profit even further and no business would do that. Lastly, such exchange program would also give a very bad signal to potential customers since it implies that ASUS' products are so defective that they need to be exchanged. It just doesn't make sense to me.
We should, but we won't get it
It would be nice if Asus offered the exchange, or a program to give a partial credit on return of the tf700t towards an upgrade. I paid for a premium tablet only to find that it was hopelessly crippled. My Nook tablet often does better...less lag. Frankly, if Asus admitted it's mistake I would stay a customer. As it is, I don't think I will ever buy another of their products. Sad, I had high hopes.
If y'all think this tablet is so bad that its parent company should provide a replacement for every one it ever sold, why did you keep it for an entire year?
I'm honestly not trying to flame you guys. We're a community and I love you all. You just have to acknowledge that every device has its quirks. Apple and Nexus devices included. Even if IO performance leads to some lag, on a functional level there is nothing this device is incapable of doing. From where I'm standing nothing was ever defective. As a matter of fact, when this thing came out it was best in class in terms of performance, IO issues included.
Was it not for the broken dock pins I would not trade this tablet for anything currently on the market. Except the TF701 maybe - once Teamwin releases a custom recovery.
I just snagged some wallpapers sbdags stole from the TF701 stock rom and redid my homescreens - and I'm in love all over again!
I really feel for all you guys disappointed by this tablet - especially if you did try CROMi-X.
And I have to admit I don't get it. My tab runs like a dream on CROMi-X.
The only thing that could lure me away would be true split screen functionality - and not like on the Note 10 just for some apps - TRUE split screen functionality.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 4
The only reason i brought this tablet was for running linux on, and for that it works great. Linux seems to deal with IO differently than android, general usage is far less noticeable, you only really see it, during write jobs, heavy io tasks like installing big packages.
If you are unimpressed by Android on this tablet, give Linux a chance
berndblb said:
And I have to admit I don't get it. My tab runs like a dream on CROMi-X.
The only thing that could lure me away would be true split screen functionality
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That's not a hardware problem.
berndblb said:
Was it not for the broken dock pins I would not trade this tablet for anything currently on the market. Except the TF701 maybe - once Teamwin releases a custom recovery.
I just snagged some wallpapers sbdags stole from the TF701 stock rom and redid my homescreens - and I'm in love all over again!
I really feel for all you guys disappointed by this tablet - especially if you did try CROMi-X.
And I have to admit I don't get it. My tab runs like a dream on CROMi-X.
The only thing that could lure me away would be true split screen functionality - and not like on the Note 10 just for some apps - TRUE split screen functionality.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 4
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I don't know what you meant by "true split screen", but if you mean running any 2 apps side by side, you can always root the Note 10.1 and install Multi Windows Manager on the Play Store and you will be able to use Multi Window for any apps. My friend showed it to me once, I don't know how usable this Multi Window Manager is, but it is there if you need it.
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Was it not for the broken dock pins I would not trade this tablet for anything currently on the market. Except the TF701 maybe - once Teamwin releases a custom recovery.
I just snagged some wallpapers sbdags stole from the TF701 stock rom and redid my homescreens - and I'm in love all over again!
I really feel for all you guys disappointed by this tablet - especially if you did try CROMi-X.
And I have to admit I don't get it. My tab runs like a dream on CROMi-X.
The only thing that could lure me away would be true split screen functionality - and not like on the Note 10 just for some apps - TRUE split screen functionality.
Sent from my ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T using Tapatalk 4
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Ive been wondering how omni rom is on a tablet, their splitscreen implementation is perfect on my phone. im going to let it mature a bit and if noones built it, i will. a better alternative is X11
berndblb said:
The only thing that could lure me away would be true split screen functionality - and not like on the Note 10 just for some apps - TRUE split screen functionality.
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I'm very tempted to try and port OmniRom - there is multiwindow facility on it that works very well (on N7000). Very much still in development but working great already.

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