Future of S4 development - Galaxy S 4 General

Alright guys so we have been graced with the official KitKat from Sammy depending on what carrier you're on... I'm finally able to get a taste of 4.4.2 on this fantastic piece of hardware...
But that's all this phone has going for it is hardware at this point, and even that's been outdated already in this fast moving tech world.
My AT&T branded S4 (19505) is stuck.. maybe we will get root here for the 4.4.2 build... when that happens know one knows.
But all of us sitting here on XDA are all the same.. we all want to modify our devices and push them to their limits.
I know I would love to get some AOSP love on this phone and experience what the phone can do without all the bloatware bogging it down.. and that awful touchwiz interface.. but we all have the same problem. No one has found a way to get a custom recovery on our phones. While there are a fair number of lucky people who got this phone as it came out and were able to unlock their bootloaders and flash a custom recovery image, I know there are plenty more of us who are not as fortunate as them.
Where do we go?
Who do we turn to?
Samsung? They wont help, in fact, it seems they are hell bent on incorporating more and more obKNOXious security measures as to prevent us from accessing our bootloaders!
Online petitions? So far they haven't done much!
The XDA community here on XDA? Well unfortunately most people truly interested in rooting their phones and pushing them to the limits discarded their S4s long ago for a Nexus or other phone..
So this leaves us with what? Who do we turn to who has both the knowledge base to do something with our phones as well as the desire to put their time into such a project.
I suppose this thread will be deleted.. but I just had to rant I suppose.. I am sitting here without any way to unlock my phone and do what I wish to do with it, and that's due to many factors.. but I'm so tired of opening my browser to our ATT forums and seeing that no one has created a new post, or two people have made comments on posts already existing... is this just s forgotten phone in the sea of tech gadgets out? Are we up a river without a paddle?
Is there no hope for us?
Now I know that this forum is a community and I am 100% behind the notion that if you want something done then you should do it yourself.. but I like most still using this phone don't have the know how to do what needs to be done here. I'm sure there are plenty of people like me who wish that they could help and will do anything in their power to help get something going for this device. What do we do???
/rant /patheticpleaforsomeonetohelpus

No sense.
You can install custom recovery
You can root
You can install custom ROM
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Donno... Coz S5 is same as S4.
Future of S4 is bright but don't know about this thread.:cyclops:

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# 1 [Q] LG g2x 2.3.3 HELP CHANGE to 2.3.7 for better for battery

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# 1 [Q] LG g2x 2.3.3 HELP CHANGE to 2.3.7 or better for battery
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Hello, I'm new and pretty dumb about smartphones but I'm very motivated and excited to have found "you guys". I like what you guys believe in
"P.S. A little bit more about us. XDA-Developers was founded on the simple principal that SHARING IS GOOD and when many people SHARE what they know, EVERYONE benefits. We exist upon this Ethos, we RESPECT each other, we SHARE with each other, we do not judge one another and we HELP all who ask. We believe that while some may have more knowledge than another, none are more important."
I will show every member that I'm humble and grateful for any help that comes my way. I promise to ALL MEMBERS that I will be a "GOOD" member and give back to the site at every opportunity.
I bought a g2x used with 2.3.3 and I love it except the battery life. I heard that if I downloaded the 2.3.7 the battery problem would go away. My problem is that I know nothing about this type of "stuff" but I'm VERY excited about learning and starting new and TRUE relationships with other members. PLEASE HELP me get this LG g2x straightened out.: I need to learn how to re-root this phone. I have to make4 sure that I don't harm what good I already have. If I can't get better battery life from this phone I will have wasted $250. I just finished "fighting" Lymphoma cancer and I can't afford to throw away money, especially in these amounts. Please help me and get to know me and I the same with you.
Thank You, Sincerely, Cgarland
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Hello, I'm new and pretty dumb about smartphones but I'm very motivated and excited to have found "you guys". I like what you guys believe in
"P.S. A little bit more about us. XDA-Developers was founded on the simple principal that SHARING IS GOOD and when many people SHARE what they know, EVERYONE benefits. We exist upon this Ethos, we RESPECT each other, we SHARE with each other, we do not judge one another and we HELP all who ask. We believe that while some may have more knowledge than another, none are more important."
I will show every member that I'm humble and grateful for any help that comes my way. I promise to ALL MEMBERS that I will be a "GOOD" member and give back to the site at every opportunity.
I bought a g2x used with 2.3.3 and I love it except the battery life. I heard that if I downloaded the 2.3.7 the battery problem would go away. My problem is that I know nothing about this type of "stuff" but I'm VERY excited about learning and starting new and TRUE relationships with other members. PLEASE HELP me get this LG g2x straightened out.:
Thank You, Sincerely, Cgarland
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Hello sir. All you have to do NVFlash CWM and you're all set to flash a ROM.
Follow this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cy9on64jAZs
Just the part where you do the NVFLash. Once that's done upgrade CWM to the latest version, you can find that in the dev section.
Then you just simply DL CM7, wipe your phone then flash your desired ROM.
I didn't really go into details in case you're already familiar with CWM and flashing, that's just a gist of it. But if you need more help and have no idea what flashing and CWM is then let me know.
GREAT to hear from you.
Howd ya know? I have no idea what CWM or flashing is! I want to thank you for writing back to me. I'm MORE than excited about talking with the members of this site. I'm having dental work done at the University of Washington school of dentistry and I have to go to bed since I have to get up at 6:30 in order to make it to Seattle from Olympia by 9:30. I hope tomorrow we can continue to talk about these and other issues with these type of devices? Thank You....who are you? I want to learn how to attach a video to my post like you did for me. You have no idea how excited I'm about this site and talking with you guys. The member that just answered my question is totally freaking me out with the knowledge that you have about my phone. What I think your saying is that I need to get a cord that goes from my power outlet on my phone to a usb plug on my computer? Please explain, in detail, what you mean when you say " All you have to do NVFlash CWM and you're all set to flash a ROM." Is that where I empty my phone and then re-load with an updated version? Do I have to protect my phone? Did this phone come with 2.2.3? What do the numbers mean? I hope I can help you with something in return? Thank you VERY MUCH Sir. I look forward to talking with you tomorrow...cgarland
Is this g2x a good phone if I can get the battery to last at least one full day? I like the phone and all that I've read about it (except the bad) but it is my first smartphone. Seriously mackster248 I want to keep this phone. Can I make this phone work properly so I will be happy with it? Will the battery life improve with updates? What is "ROM: CM7 or MIUI" I'm not kidding, there is a guy on Craigslist that did exactly the same thing to his g2x, that is he has CM7 and MIUI on his g2x. Here is his post. What do you think mackster248?
Title says it all, unlocked for any GSM carrier and rooted with cyanogen mod 7 and flashed with a cool MIUI rom making it faster and better looking than ever.
Will come with HDMI cable, black hard rubber case, 2 chargers and original box. 9/10 condition front and back it had a screen protector on but I recently took it off because it made the phone look like crap. It has a CLEAN front now.
MOSTLY LOOKING FOR TRADES but $275 cash nothing more nothing less is good. Looking for an iPhone 4 unlocked I dont care how many gbs just has to be unlocked, same condition, with charger at least.
Looking for:
Iphone 3gs 16/32 gb unlocked and jailbroken w/ accessories and some cash on your side.
LG thrill unlocked
Iphone 4 unlocked
HTC sensation
All offers are considered just shoot me what phone you have.
206 four53 eight713 will send pics through text!
Teach me what it is you both are talking about mackster....PLEASE! See that where he say's what you said?
Thank You, cgarland
i have a problem as host's, it's very helpful, thanks
Well CWM is a recovery that's needed to flash custom ROMs. You need to follow that video to install CWM via NVFlash. Just do that portion first then I can help you with the rest.
Sent from my LG-P999 using xda premium
Cwm is clockwork mod recovery.. it is a modified recovery that allows any rom to be flashed to your phone.
Recovery is a utility built into the phone that lets you do various tasks like install different modified versions of android reset your phone to a "new" state... deleting all the data on it (except android itself)
To flash a rom means to install it...
Cm7 is cyanogen mod 7 which is a "team" created rom that has a lot of added features that the stock Android does not have check out cyanogenmod.com for more details...
Miui is pronounced my U I and is another "team" created version of android that very much changes the look and feel of android...
As far as everything else... browse the development section and just read... that's the easiest and best way to learn
As far as battery life... there are a few roms that improve battery life... but there is no miracle solution. It's just a sacrifice that is made in liu of speed and performance... what I mean is... a dual core 1ghz processor uses battery... ya know
Also... if you need help try and post in the right section ... general or q&a ... don't ask questions in the development section .. for some reason a lot of people have a huge stick up their rear and rather than being helpful... they just get all rude and tell you that you are posting in the wrong section and are rude...
Joel
Sent from my LG-P999 using xda premium
Just got out of the hospital and good to hear from you mackster248 What a cool name "mackster248" I will do what you say mackster248 and get back to you....THANK YOU VERY MUCH !!
renocivik THANK YOU so much for your reply! I just got out of the hospital and saw your reply for me. I will read your information and do exactly as you say and get back to you ASAP with my results. Is this a good phone renocivik? I see where you talk about battery life, what should I do? I need to get some rest before I write anymore stuff here. I will talk to you guys soon. Thanks for everything and will get back to you tomorrow.....cg
What are you saying? I truly don't understand what your trying to tell me. Would you please explain cfj521 ? Thank You cgarland
I think I can put flashing and cwm into simpler terms for you.
The word "flashing," in this case would mean downloading and installing a new ROM to your phone.
A ROM in this case, is simply a developer made android system that they make for the better and enjoyability of your phone.
CWM is an abbreviation for "Clock work mod recovery."
CWM was made for you to make adjustments to your phone, and install new software, ROMs much easier.
This system will be the head quarters of making adjustments to your phone.
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Now, about getting NvFlash onto your device.
NvFlasher is, I believe, also a developer made program specific to our Nvidia Tegra devices. And also does make installing CWM much easier.
(Nvidia Tegra 2 is the processor for our G2x)
There is a section around here that explains to you how to use NvFlash for your G2x.
Which, I believe will be in the Android Development section in our G2x forums. Probably at the tippy top in a sticky forum (Highlighted forum).
The instructions may be a bit hard to following, but hang in there and just follow the instructions for NvFlash, refrain from stuff that isn't for now.
I hope I enlightened you a little bit on what we all talk about around here.
Sent from my LG-P999 using xda premium

I know... It's been asked before but humor me... Please.

Hey all!
I realize that requests like this have been made I imagine but I just want to know if I should have any hope in being able to put a custom ROM on my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note Edge the N915V non development edition.
I am curious if it is being worked on or if everyone has given up?
I just miss having the choice to decide what ROM to use while I love this particular phone hardware wise and features.
If anyone is working hard on this let me know I would be happy to donate to the cause so we can get the ability to root and unlock the bootloader on these dang phones!
Thanks all! I appreciate your allowing me to post this "plea". I have used custom ROMs forever now and wow do I miss the power!
Jason
Sent from my SM-N915V using Tapatalk Pro
The answer is yes, they are working on it, it's just taking more time to access root due to the locked bootloader. The Verizon note 4 is virtually the same as the note edge as far as firmware goes, if you would like to donate, check out the Note 4 forums for Verizon.
short answer is yes...
The long answer involves a young priest and an old priest... (joke from movie no hard feelings) but seriously don't hold your breath. It is being worked on but it isn't a simple task.
As for unlocking the bootloaders don't count on it. You will most likely see something similar to safestrap on theae devices once root is actually obtained.
I'm glad to hear there are some people still holding out I have a lot of love for this device. I hope that support starts flowing in despite the lack of advertising on samsungs part for this device. Looking forward to the note edge 2! (Dev edition of corse lol)
Sent from my SM-N915VMKE using XDA Free mobile app

eager newb seeking experienced android development veteran to learn from

hey, hopefully im posting this in the right section. im still pretty new to xda as well as the fascinating world of root access, custom recovery's and roms, and such so please let me know if this post is out of place and i apologize ahead of time if it is.
anyways, as for my original reason for posting to the forum, hi everybody ive somewhat recently discovered the possibilities of root access, custom roms and the like. not long ago i was in the market for a new device and came across an offerup post for a galaxy core prime SM-G360T1 (the metro pcs variant) at the price of $35 obo soo, personally never being the biggest samsung supporter i offered $20 n continued looking for another decent LG to hook up to my metro service. long story short they accepted my offer n deals like that shant b ignored so i purchased said core prime n spent the whole night searching through the xda forums to learn all i could.
soo, here i am now the proud owner of my first galaxy device, a rooted SM-G360T1 with a good working touch version of twrp (my preferred choice in custom recoveries) but, as ive come to discover only one very aptly named custom rom exists for this particular galaxy and though i completely respect its creator for all the time & effort he put into releasing the first working pre-rooted, de-bloated custom rom available for the SM-G360T1, i personally decided to stick with the stock rooted firmware and do the de-bloating and such myself.
ok sry about the mindless rambling there i may have gotten a bit carried away. now, as for my point in posting this in the first place. i wouldnt feel right asking others to solve my little issues for me so im not gunna try to pressure anybody into puttin out more roms for the metro core prime. instead, if at all possible i would merely like to meet someone more experienced and well-versed in the art of android development who might b interested in maybe taking me under their wing so that i might get the opportunity to learn the ways of the code and hopefully one day have all the knowledge necessary to develop my own custom roms, or maybe even eventually get myself a couple of apps that i can b proud of onto the play store.
to summarize, i am but a young aspiring software developer will very little knowlege of or experience with code, tho was raised on home built pcs my whole life so i know my way around a desktop pretty well hardware-wise as well as software-wise, im very willing and eager to learn, whilst having already developed through my previous experiences, a healthy fear of bricking yet another phone which has resulted in an increase in the frequency with which i backup my data, as well as a certain acquired hesitation toward attempting any uncertain actions without first doing the appropriate research on the given subject and im hoping to find someone willing to pass some of their vast knowledge down to me whom i can consider to b my teacher, professor, sensai, master, whichever u prefer, and whom i would never hesitate but to thank and give credit for any and all software that i may one day develop as a result of the lessons they had taught me :victory:
aaaanyways, this post turned out a lot longer than i anticipated so, if uve been able to stick it out and make it this far i am both sry for taking up so much of your time, as well as truly grateful to u for having taken said time to hear me out. well, have a wonderful day everybody and i hope to hear from my future sensai soon. until such time i shall b waiting paitiently thnx again for reading
oh and also just wanted to add that if anybody that knows what theyre doing happens to be in the midst of making/porting any new roms for the SM-G360T1 samsung galaxy core prime metro pcs version and needs any help with like testing or wutever let me know, i got a good twrp nandroid backup ready to b restored n just in case of an emergency i still got odin and the rooted kernel that i used to root it in the first place saved onto my pc

Its been fun. Goodbye V20.

Well guys its been a blast. Most of you know me as the creator of DirtySanta. Some of you know me on a more personal note. Then some of you don't even know me. Those of you who have been paying attention the last couple days in either the DirtySanta Thread or those that I have been in close contact with will know what this is about. I bricked my v20(again) but this time it somehow damaged the hardware itself. Lately you will have noticed that alot of major Devs have either moved on or have been thinking about moving on. @SaintZ93 and @Team DevDigitel have moved on. If I remember correctly @Chaz187 is also close to then end of their runs with the v20. As for me, this is my last goodbye. As of this post i will be ceasing all support for DirtySanta(support from me atleast, most of the questions asked these days are repeats) and any project for the v20 that I have released or have been working on(PA).
However... I will not be leaving the scene altogether. I will be going over to the S8+ forums.
I will also leave any hosted files I currently have up for dirtysanta alone. There will be no further updates for dirtysanta(not like there were anyway) and I will be leaving you guys with a parting gift: The secret to restoring a non kdz device back to stock.
I take no responsibility for your device and I WILL NOT provide any support for this.
To revert a non kdz device back to stock you need the following 3 things: Your abootbackup.img made during the dirtysanta process, Your bootbackup.img made during the dirtysanta process and the final item is an untouched matching [REDACTED].
Once again Thanks to everyone in the v20 community. Things could have gone better at times but I think you guys will survive with out me.
EDIT: Since people really wanna know. you need matching abootbackup.img, bootbackup.img and matching untouched system.img
This is the end of Sprint development! Kinda sucks!
Sent from my LG-LS997 using Tapatalk
For sure
Thanks for the amazing exploit, enjoy the s8
I can't fault you moving on. And I appreciate everything you've done for us. I'm going to keep my v20 until the screen falls off because of the swappable battery thing. At least I have root (thanks to you) and when stable xposed gets to working, I'll be good for awhile. Thanks again and enjoy that s8+.
Sent from my VS995 using Tapatalk
All your hard work is acknowledged & very much appreciated. You're the primary reason this phone is fun at all (no root = no fun).
I hope we find a method to safely unbrick (bloody LG) so you can hold on to it in the future & remember the glory days spent here.
Enjoy your new toy
Thx for all your help.
Just wonder if s8+ got rooted?
netgar said:
Thx for all your help.
Just wonder if s8+ got rooted?
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I appreciate everything you done for this phone .
Sent from my LG V20 using XDA Labs
I think you're leaving too early.. Sure, the v20 is going to be obsolete soon, but at the moment the v20 is really cheap, an amazing bargain for a great phone.
The opportunities for making interesting custom ROMs is really taking off, especially with the H990DS being rooted.
Sure, get an S8 but get another v20 and make the most of the great work done on it
speculatrix said:
I think you're leaving too early.. Sure, the v20 is going to be obsolete soon, but at the moment the v20 is really cheap, an amazing bargain for a great phone.
The opportunities for making interesting custom ROMs is really taking off, especially with the H990DS being rooted.
Sure, get an S8 but get another v20 and make the most of the great work done on it
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Trust me. Im not leaving too early. Ive had the phone since a week before the phone released. Im done with it.
speculatrix said:
I think you're leaving too early.. Sure, the v20 is going to be obsolete soon, but at the moment the v20 is really cheap, an amazing bargain for a great phone.
The opportunities for making interesting custom ROMs is really taking off, especially with the H990DS being rooted.
Sure, get an S8 but get another v20 and make the most of the great work done on it
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How do you think development is just taking off when rhe ones responsible for development are saying sayonara? They arent leaving early.
You arrived late.
You worked so hard to do what u did for us theres nothing i can say so sum it up in words we had our run ins im threads but i wish u the best of luck for all u did im eteranlly grateful to u and all the awsome devs here u made a cool phone better
Well my replacement is coming in 7-10 days lol. I dont doubt it comes back on zv8 and a sure way to make sure i dont provide more updates. They killed my device lol so off to the moto z force i go. Im very thankful for the new friendships and team work this device brought to us, as well a new amount of knowledge was obtained through a crazy transition from su to magisk, the whole lg specifics, and just making things work for a great group of people. it was fun. DevDigitel Roms have been closed as of this morning. Thanks everyone!
You guys are awesome, thanks for the efforts you put forth and all that assistance you give.
Looking on the bright side of things, the small level of development isn't necessarily a bad thing for the V20. It has so many awesome features already, what is something that is so needed that requires extensive development? Sure, we can always try out new features. But lets look at the past, where the development community basically made a phone usable between extending battery life or adding features that should have already been there.
The entire scenario of development for phones has changed in my opinion. Take with a grain of salt, im no dev just a mooch that has been here for many many years. But seems in the past, development was a MUST. Now, honestly, I wouldn't be devastated if my phone was bone stock. But with that said, I sure do appreciate the additional features you guys have developed.
Another thing, replacing phones themselves and upgrading has changed. Honestly, I don't want a phone that doesn't have a headphone jack or removable battery. So going to hang on to this one as long as possible! Where beforehand, new phone brought features we WANT not DREAD.
Best of luck to you guys in the future!
Yep thank you 2151, I learned a lot and still have a ton left to learn, but I definately appreciate all you've done for the v20, I have a love/hate relationship with mine. I love the audio and hardware quality, but there wasn't much easy about modding the thing, as a novice anyway. Felt like smashing mine a few times. I know you veteran's get frustrated with people asking questions noobs should be able to find in the forums, but if ur trying to learn it can be tough to find the exact info you need to know, and there is so much to learn. Just saying in general anyway, not u specifically. I see a lot of guys getting chewed out on here, some deservedly, some not Imo. Samsung pretty much lost my business for the crap they released last year, note7 and a 10" pos tablet where the touchscreen didn't work right and they weren't gonna replace, I'm Lg from now on I think. If they stick to what they've been doing anyway, we'll see.
I'll be switching to the S8+ soon as I can afford it or the Note 8 .
I don't think we've met, but I wanna say thanks for your hard work, and all the other devs involved in the V20 here. I just ordered one because I needed a new phone (problems with current), my son's V20 impressed me, and most importantly, it can be rooted! I've rooted every Android device I've personally owned, and won't buy one that can't be rooted. I just can't stomach being told I can't access files on my SD card, can't block annoying ads, can't remove annoying bloatware, etc.
I know I'm late to the party, but the upside will hopefully be that you guys have worked out all the kinks. Thanks again, and enjoy the S8+!

Palm pvg100 questions

I am seeking an app that would make the power button also the volume button. I have come across several apps that make the volume button turn into the power button but none for the power. Also does anyone know where to get a replacement sim card tray for the PVG100 or if a sim tray from another device would work in it. Thanks
Hi guys!
I think I found the source code/bootloader for the PVG100. After a whole lot of digging, I now have this .zip from the founder himself, and it is for the original 2018 firmware, not with any of the updates. I'll attach it below.
I am definitely a novice tinkerer, not a developer. I don't have any of the skills or tools to make a custom ROM, though I very much want one to remove the bloatware and enable hotspot tethering etc. Stormskeeker, could you please post whatever you have managed to find so far, or explain how you have been able to tweak it?
I also have a couple of these that are inoperable for various reasons that I have thoroughly dissected. So if anyone needs to buy any of my spare parts, or wants to just know more about the Palm's guts, then hit me up!
This is SUCH a rad little phone. Biggest complaint by far is battery life, and I would LOVE if someone help me figure out how to power this phone with a bigger battery. I found a Oneplus battery has the same connector, but it won't work when I connect it (unless it's plugged in to a wall adapter)... does this have something to do with the firmware not accepting a different battery? Does Anyone know how I can get around this??
https://sourceforge.net/projects/palmopensource/[/url]
Sim Tray in Gold for my Palm PVG 100
fatetraitor said:
I am seeking an app that would make the power button also the volume button. I have come across several apps that make the volume button turn into the power button but none for the power. Also does anyone know where to get a replacement sim card tray for the PVG100 or if a sim tray from another device would work in it. Thanks
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Hello A Need Also a New Sim Tray in Gold for my Palm PVG 100 i Contacted PAlm They Said:
Palm Support Team (Palm)
Nov 29, 12:38 PST
Hi Davi
Thanks for contacting us.
Unfortunately, we're not able to provide replacement SIM trays at this time.
If you have any other questions, please let us know.
Thanks,
Palm Support Team
Pleaze Helph someone how they can put a phone in the market with no simple Replace Parts for this Palm Phone
DEXXO said:
Hello A Need Also a New Sim Tray in Gold for my Palm PVG 100 i Contacted PAlm They Said:
Palm Support Team (Palm)
Nov 29, 12:38 PST
Hi Davi
Thanks for contacting us.
Unfortunately, we're not able to provide replacement SIM trays at this time.
If you have any other questions, please let us know.
Thanks,
Palm Support Team
Pleaze Helph someone how they can put a phone in the market with no simple Replace Parts for this Palm Phone
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There is nothing we can do about your situation, why did you come here to ask about this issue? Don't waste your time here with a question like that.
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Droidriven said:
There is nothing we can do about your situation, why did you come here to ask about this issue? Don't waste your time here with a question like that.
Sent from my SM-S767VL using Tapatalk
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Thanks fo For Quick Feedback
the name of this Thread is Palm pvg100 questions
so thats why i asking here + if you Read up im not the first ho ask about the Sim Tray :good:
for me iz not a waste of time iz about to be Real and find Solutions and nothing hiding
The 2nd Question is to find how and best to Flash a Palm PVG 100 or Root it.
sincerly Greets DEXXO
DEXXO said:
Thanks fo For Quick Feedback
the name of this Thread is Palm pvg100 questions
so thats why i asking here + if you Read up im not the first ho ask about the Sim Tray :good:
for me iz not a waste of time iz about to be Real and find Solutions and nothing hiding
The 2nd Question is to find how and best to Flash a Palm PVG 100 or Root it.
sincerly Greets DEXXO
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Questions about how to root this device are relevant, but you didn't ask about that in your previous post, did you? No, you didnt, you asked an irrelevant question about the SIM tray that has nothing to do with XDA or what we do here.
My point is, this forum is about android software development and Windows mobile software development. Given that fact, questions posted here in this Palm pvg 100 thread should be questions about Palm pvg 100 software. Your question is about your device's manufacturer and their practices concerning the SIM tray issue. That question is irrelevant here at XDA because it has absolutely nothing to do with android, android software development, Windows mobile, Windows mobile development or the software on your Palm pvg 100.
Sure, your question is related to the Palm pvg 100, but that doesn't mean anything.
If this were an automobile repair forum, the question you posted would be like going to an automotive repair forum to ask why Toyota has stopped making a certain part or making that part available to the public. How would the people in the forum know why Toyota is doing that? They, wouldn't, Toyota would. What could the people in that forum actually do about the availability of that part? Absolutely nothing. So why waste your time asking them if they don't know and can't do anything about it? Do you see my point now?
If you want to know if there is a known rooting method for your device, do a Google search for:
"How to root (your model number)"
If that doesn't find anything, there is not a known rooting method for that device. If you find nothing, you'll have to experiment for yourself to find working method.
If searching doesn't find anything specific, you'll have to try the various universal rooting programs on PC or the various android rooting apps, try all of them that you can possibly find.
If the universal rooting programs or apps don't work, you can try finding a copy of your stock firmware, then extract the boot.img from the firmware then use Magisk on PC to patch the boot.img then flash that boot.img on your device then install the Magisk Manager app on your device. But, if your bootloader is locked, you will not be able to flash the patched boot.img.
If you want to know how to flash your device, do a google search for:
"How to flash stock firmware (your model number)"
Or
"Return to stock (your model number)"
That should find guides for flashing your device.
Notice that the Google searches are simple and to the point,
"How to (the thing you're looking for) (your model number)"
It isn't difficult to use Google to find answers, you just have to keep your search terms simple and direct.
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Droidriven said:
Questions about how to root this device are relevant, but you didn't ask about that in your previous post, did you? No, you didnt, you asked an irrelevant question about the SIM tray that has nothing to do with XDA or what we do here.
My point is, this forum is about android software development and Windows mobile software development. Given that fact, questions posted here in this Palm pvg 100 thread should be questions about Palm pvg 100 software. Your question is about your device's manufacturer and their practices concerning the SIM tray issue. That question is irrelevant here at XDA because it has absolutely nothing to do with android, android software development, Windows mobile, Windows mobile development or the software on your Palm pvg 100.
Sure, your question is related to the Palm pvg 100, but that doesn't mean anything.
If this were an automobile repair forum, the question you posted would be like going to an automotive repair forum to ask why Toyota has stopped making a certain part or making that part available to the public. How would the people in the forum know why Toyota is doing that? They, wouldn't, Toyota would. What could the people in that forum actually do about the availability of that part? Absolutely nothing. So why waste your time asking them if they don't know and can't do anything about it? Do you see my point now?
If you want to know if there is a known rooting method for your device, do a Google search for:
"How to root (your model number)"
If that doesn't find anything, there is not a known rooting method for that device. If you find nothing, you'll have to experiment for yourself to find working method.
If searching doesn't find anything specific, you'll have to try the various universal rooting programs on PC or the various android rooting apps, try all of them that you can possibly find.
If the universal rooting programs or apps don't work, you can try finding a copy of your stock firmware, then extract the boot.img from the firmware then use Magisk on PC to patch the boot.img then flash that boot.img on your device then install the Magisk Manager app on your device. But, if your bootloader is locked, you will not be able to flash the patched boot.img.
If you want to know how to flash your device, do a google search for:
"How to flash stock firmware (your model number)"
Or
"Return to stock (your model number)"
That should find guides for flashing your device.
Notice that the Google searches are simple and to the point,
"How to (the thing you're looking for) (your model number)"
It isn't difficult to use Google to find answers, you just have to keep your search terms simple and direct.
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Thanks for Information all you said about Google etc. I Tryed but for this Model iz Xtream Difficult
y even not will find a Stock Firmware to Download lmah crazy
In My Opinion Samsung Devices are the best Phones and most open about for Rooting and Flashing Roms.
for the nem Palm PVG 100 Devices i also not finding something or how someone has tryed to Root or Flash
a think it will be possible trough SP Flash or something .
Will see, but Anyway i have Realy to Say Thanks to the XDA Devolpers Comunitys for dont let Obsolete so many Phones thrugh
Custom Roms . my Sam. P1000 still runs alot of Apps ho this devices was never Supportet with the Stock Rom
the Best is espacialy for the S4mini iz incredible wha the guys from ASOP Team has done . Oreo on a S4 mini and in a realy Fast Way !
so with this also Thanks to this Guys ho realy thinks in a right decision for All Devices. I am realy not a fan of Updates and New Api,s for Apps
because in this was alot of Phones and more will get faster obsolete etc. Thats why realy Thanks for all this Devs. for the nice Roms.
Greets DEXXO
DEXXO said:
Thanks for Information all you said about Google etc. I Tryed but for this Model iz Xtream Difficult [emoji14]
y even not will find a Stock Firmware to Download lmah crazy
In My Opinion Samsung Devices are the best Phones and most open about for Rooting and Flashing Roms.
for the nem Palm PVG 100 Devices i also not finding something or how someone has tryed to Root or Flash
a think it will be possible trough SP Flash or something .
Will see, but Anyway i have Realy to Say Thanks to the XDA Devolpers Comunitys for dont let Obsolete so many Phones thrugh
Custom Roms . my Sam. P1000 still runs alot of Apps ho this devices was never Supportet with the Stock Rom
the Best is espacialy for the S4mini iz incredible wha the guys from ASOP Team has done . Oreo on a S4 mini and in a realy Fast Way !
so with this also Thanks to this Guys ho realy thinks in a right decision for All Devices. I am realy not a fan of Updates and New Api,s for Apps
because in this was alot of Phones and more will get faster obsolete etc. Thats why realy Thanks for all this Devs. for the nice Roms.
Greets DEXXO
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XDA itself is not involved in which devices do or don't get support or custom development.
It is up to the community of members, it is the members that figure out rooting methods and it is members that create the custom developments that are available here. It isn't like XDA has a team of people that are tasked with developing for every single android device model that is created/sold.
Devices that do not have known rooting methods or have no custom development of any kind are due to several reasons, such as:
1) there are not enough users in the community that own the device
2) the device has no stock firmware available and/or does not have a stock source code that is available to the public. Without these, custom ROMs can not be created.
3) there are no users or developers with the experience or skills to create custom software that own the device. Developers only build for devices they personally own and real developers don't buy cheap, off-brand, unpopular devices. If someone here owned a device like yours and had the skills to build ROMs, there would probably already be ROMs for your device.
If your device does not have a stock firmware that is available and has no stock source code available and you do not have the necessary developer skills, you are out of luck when it comes to customizing your device or ever seeing custom development for your device.
If your stock source code was available, you could have tried paying a developer to develop ROMs your device, but it would have required you buying another device like yours and sending that device to the developer so they could use it for testing what they build before releasing their development to the community here.
If you really want to blame someone, blame yourself for buying a device that no developer would ever care about working with.
If you want to be able to customize a device, here is some advice.
1) don't buy cheap, low end, off brand, unpopular devices, it doesn't have to be an expensive flagship device, there are some decent mid-range devices that receive custom development.
2) don't buy a device that does not have stock firmware available and/or has no stock source code available.
3) you are going about it all wrong, don't go buy a device and then come here looking to see if anything is available here for the device. Come here first and see what devices have available development here and what those developments are and use that information to choose which device to go buy and THEN go buy the device.
So, you see, there is a lot more to the story than just.....
"Hey, I got an android device and I'd like to root it and use custom ROMs on it"
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Droidriven said:
XDA itself is not involved in which devices do or don't get support or custom development.
It is up to the community of members, it is the members that figure out rooting methods and it is members that create the custom developments that are available here. It isn't like XDA has a team of people that are tasked with developing for every single android device model that is created/sold.
Devices that do not have known rooting methods or have no custom development of any kind are due to several reasons, such as:
1) there are not enough users in the community that own the device
2) the device has no stock firmware available and/or does not have a stock source code that is available to the public. Without these, custom ROMs can not be created.
3) there are no users or developers with the experience or skills to create custom software that own the device. Developers only build for devices they personally own and real developers don't buy cheap, off-brand, unpopular devices. If someone here owned a device like yours and had the skills to build ROMs, there would probably already be ROMs for your device.
If your device does not have a stock firmware that is available and has no stock source code available and you do not have the necessary developer skills, you are out of luck when it comes to customizing your device or ever seeing custom development for your device.
If your stock source code was available, you could have tried paying a developer to develop ROMs your device, but it would have required you buying another device like yours and sending that device to the developer so they could use it for testing what they build before releasing their development to the community here.
If you really want to blame someone, blame yourself for buying a device that no developer would ever care about working with.
If you want to be able to customize a device, here is some advice.
1) don't buy cheap, low end, off brand, unpopular devices, it doesn't have to be an expensive flagship device, there are some decent mid-range devices that receive custom development.
2) don't buy a device that does not have stock firmware available and/or has no stock source code available.
3) you are going about it all wrong, don't go buy a device and then come here looking to see if anything is available here for the device. Come here first and see what devices have available development here and what those developments are and use that information to choose which device to go buy and THEN go buy the device.
So, you see, there is a lot more to the story than just.....
"Hey, I got an android device and I'd like to root it and use custom ROMs on it"
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Thanks for the Info
but wich Phone a buy a surely i dont need XDA or Ask about if they have open Codes or Stock Roms:highfive:
this Palm Phone PVG -100 is realy Unic in the hole Marked , because iz small (xtrem and has hightech from today) 8 Core Snap Dr.. alot Ram and iz
incredible Fast . And my Question for Rooting a sutch device iz more about that you can remove some Provider Bloatware. etc.
how said we will see what will come on the Comunity for this Device
Greets D
DEXXO said:
Thanks for the Info
but wich Phone a buy a surely i dont need XDA or Ask about if they have open Codes or Stock Roms:highfive:
this Palm Phone PVG -100 is realy Unic in the hole Marked , because iz small (xtrem and has hightech from today) 8 Core Snap Dr.. alot Ram and iz
incredible Fast . And my Question for Rooting a sutch device iz more about that you can remove some Provider Bloatware. etc.
how said we will see what will come on the Comunity for this Device
Greets D
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Whether or not the stock firmware and stock source code is available or not is absolutely essential to building custom ROMs.
Ok, have it your way then. Continue wasting your time and money on devices that will probably never have anything posted here to root or modify them.
As I said, not all devices get rooting methods and custom development posted here, only the ones owned by people who had the experience to root the device and/or build custom ROMs, they find a rooting method for their device themselves then post the method here or they create custom development for their device themselves then post it here.
You don't understand how things actually work here or where the information posted here actually comes from. It comes from users just like you and I that figure it out for themselves if nothing is here and then post it here for others. There is no way to know which devices will gain root until AFTER it has already been figured out, we can not know BEFORE. We can not look into the future and predict when or if "this" or "that" device will have a rooting method discovered, it can't be done, so there is no point in asking "When will this device have root?" because an answer to that question does not exist.
No one knows which devices will receive development or rooting methods. That depends on who buys one of the devices and if they decide to modify the device, if they have the knowledge to do so.
You will just have to wait and see.
In my honest opinion, that device will probably never have anything useful posted here. I can go ahead and tell you that device is, more than likely, not popular enough to receive support here at XDA.
If you feel like you would like to try and learn how to root the device and learn how to develop custom ROMs and such, by all means, go ahead. You will probably gain root and have custom development for your device sooner if you just do it yourself. Your only other option is to wait to see if someone else figures something out that works on your device, which isn't very likely to happen any time soon. It doesn't matter how cool the device is or what the specs are, if no one with experience buys the device, it doesn't get support in this community.
By the way, depending on the security measures that have been implemented in your devices stock firmware, adb can be used to remove bloatware without root.
Do a Google search for:
"Remove bloatware without root"
You'll find lots of information about using adb to remove bloatware.
Good luck
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You can disable (for all) or "uninstall" for the current user most the bloatware. A few things are tied to receiving SMS but you can read about the ones you can safely remove in the battery life thread I created. That thread assumes you're not too bothered about automatic updates as they are pushed by verizon.
www (i.e. google) also works for replacement SIM tray for Palm PVG 100. js.
snoopy20 said:
You can disable (for all) or "uninstall" for the current user most the bloatware. A few things are tied to receiving SMS but you can read about the ones you can safely remove in the battery life thread I created. That thread assumes you're not too bothered about automatic updates as they are pushed by verizon.
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Yes you can somone disactivate but not all. But on this Verizon PVG-100 the Bloat ware iz not tu mutch.
We are still working on a root solution. We have a temp root, but can't get into the bootloader.
DEXXO said:
Thanks for Information all you said about Google etc. I Tryed but for this Model iz Xtream Difficult
y even not will find a Stock Firmware to Download lmah crazy
In My Opinion Samsung Devices are the best Phones and most open about for Rooting and Flashing Roms.
for the nem Palm PVG 100 Devices i also not finding something or how someone has tryed to Root or Flash
a think it will be possible trough SP Flash or something .
Will see, but Anyway i have Realy to Say Thanks to the XDA Devolpers Comunitys for dont let Obsolete so many Phones thrugh
Custom Roms . my Sam. P1000 still runs alot of Apps ho this devices was never Supportet with the Stock Rom
the Best is espacialy for the S4mini iz incredible wha the guys from ASOP Team has done . Oreo on a S4 mini and in a realy Fast Way !
so with this also Thanks to this Guys ho realy thinks in a right decision for All Devices. I am realy not a fan of Updates and New Api,s for Apps
because in this was alot of Phones and more will get faster obsolete etc. Thats why realy Thanks for all this Devs. for the nice Roms.
Greets DEXXO
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hardbodyrichert said:
....dude...whatever you're trying to ask or trying to do, I can guarantee that this is NOT the forum to do it in. Please don't post on this site anymore unless you have done your research into the topic first, by reading what others have posted, and what info is available for your device. Posting is primarily for discussion and contribution. If everyone just posts any random questions they have without even googling it first, then the threads become completely flooded and then unhelpful for those who are actually trying to discuss something.
And fyi, we are still working on a root solution. We have a temp root, but can't get into the bootloader.
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dude i dont know wahts exaclty you wanna show with this what you write , but just for info this Thread is intended for ALL
Questions about the Palm PVG-100 so if you can handle it fine :good: and Rooting iz not the only problem
where you can find a Sim Tray Replace for this phone. (YES A GOOGLET IT ) so if you can helph with this fine too
If the phone hasn’t a permanent root yet, does that mean no apks can be extracted from it?
I’m looking to try and figure out how to get the palm launcher on my own device, but I don’t see anyone’s who ported it or extracted it as of yet, and I’d hate to ask someone to try if I know they aren’t able to.
2PiSquared said:
If the phone hasn’t a permanent root yet, does that mean no apks can be extracted from it?
I’m looking to try and figure out how to get the palm launcher on my own device, but I don’t see anyone’s who ported it or extracted it as of yet, and I’d hate to ask someone to try if I know they aren’t able to.
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As long as you do it while the device is rooted, you shouldn't have a problem.
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2PiSquared said:
I’m looking to try and figure out how to get the palm launcher on my own device, but I don’t see anyone’s who ported it or extracted it as of yet, and I’d hate to ask someone to try if I know they aren’t able to.
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com.tct.pepitolauncher.apk
1806 said:
com.tct.pepitolauncher.apk
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Thank you, got it on my device!
For anyone trying this themselves, I had to decompile the app, modify the manifest and remove the sharedUserId, and recompile and resign to get it to install. Then I had to give it secure settings permissions via root so it wouldn't crash.
Since my phone is larger and a has a QHD display, the apps were a bit small and it didn't fit well. Changing DPI did not fix, the launcher seems to only look at resolution, not DPI. So, I then changed the resolution of my device to match the Palm and decreased my dpi to make other apps still usable. Not sure what the default palm DPI and text size are, but I found a happy medium for me.
Only issue is for some reason the google search bar up top doesn't appear on the home screen but I can still click the area and get to search, not sure why, but works well otherwise. The left pane on the home screen is also black but I don't know what's supposed to go there. Probably some other dependency I don't know about. Widget pane on the right works though.
Overall pleased, thanks again!
Edit: got it to work perfectly by setting is as a privileged app and turning off dark mode. Left side pane is google now page, and top search bar now appears properly.
Hello, Is there a way to edit the APN. It seems to be locked.

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