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It's coming up on 30 days so if you're going to return it the time is now. I like the Fuze a lot, but after the Tilt I realize how important battery life is. I can't take another year of 12 hours of battery life until the next HTC device with a weak battery.
I might have to get the HP 910 Business Messenger. It has comparable features and size but has a 1940 mAh battery. What other sub-$500 alternatives to the Fuze are there? If the early reviews on the HP phone are positive, I'm gone.
Here's an idea... wait a month, get an extended battery... or carry a spare in your pocket. Is there anything else about the phone you don't like?
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Here's an idea... wait a month, get an extended battery... or carry a spare in your pocket. Is there anything else about the phone you don't like?
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just the horrid battery and laggy gps and voice command issues and windows live with messenger not working properly even though windows live without messenger works perfectly and the cramped keyboard (that one isn't a big deal).
with these and other issues cited by XDA foks, HTC would have to release an updated ROM to fix all or most of them. and we can't count on them doing that.
so if i wait a month, no refund. an extended battery might do the trick, but they make the phone a brick and the smaller extended doesn't add much juice. and i don't even know if a cooked ROM would help significanty.
and i don't even know if a cooked ROM would help significanty.
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Then try it now before your 30 days is up and see if it helps. If not, then return it. If it helps, then you have the best phone possible right now. Dont return it until you explore all of your options.
Believe me, a cooked ROM makes a world a difference. it is like using a whole different phone. The screen is very responsive and everything loads much faster. While I agree the battery life is not great and the annoying design flaw with the molding chipping off, other than that I have no complaints.
i had a dutty rom on my tilt so i know they're great. i just don't know if the available ROMs solve the issues i listed (gps, voice command, windows live with messenger and others). but you're right. it won't hurt to try one.
now a politically incorrect question: which raphael chef is the closest to dutty in terms of ROM brilliance? i define brilliance as not just stripping a rom down (which, of course, is essential), but solving problems inherent to the device while adding a good deal of functionality.
Not trying to toot my own horn, but my ROM addresses the GPS and voice command issues irt the speaker (bluetooth vc is borked for the moment). I'm not sure what the issue is with windows live w/messenger, but the cab works fine when I install it (although it runs dog slow on the today screen)
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Not trying to toot my own horn, but my ROM addresses the GPS and voice command issues irt the speaker (bluetooth vc is borked for the moment). I'm not sure what the issue is with windows live w/messenger, but the cab works fine when I install it (although it runs dog slow on the today screen)
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Have to agree here, if you want a non-manila version, Da_G's is one of the best available for fuze owners. Its very quick and responsive. If you want to keep manila, ROMeOS is a great choice. You should also try different radios to get better battery life as well.
I am definetely not jumping ship. There is not a better phone out there currently and most if not all of my friends with other phones also have battery life issues. it is what it is with these mini computers if you are a real "power user". You either keep it plugged in when you are using your desktop and in your office, or plug it in whenever in the car, or get a spare battery. All of those options are not that bad to be honest, but nothing else compares to the phone in general. I have added just about everything I can to my fuze without changing rom or radio and I think it is an incredible phone that just keeps getting better with each day I find a new tweak or program to play with.
You can read my full review of my fuze on my blog at http://www.politicaldisgust.com/2008/12/05/att-htc-fuze-review/
For work I have had all the different Blackberry phones since the day they were released and with the type of usage I have they ALL ran out of battery during the day and had to be charged as mentioned above. Sure it was a little better then the fuze battery BUT the blackberry is 1/2 the phone/computer.
Check out my review. I am not jumping ship. It will only get better and better with new programs, cooked roms/radios, new cases released, etc.
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I am definetely not jumping ship. There is not a better phone out there currently and most if not all of my friends with other phones also have battery life issues. it is what it is with these mini computers if you are a real "power user". You either keep it plugged in when you are using your desktop and in your office, or plug it in whenever in the car, or get a spare battery. All of those options are not that bad to be honest, but nothing else compares to the phone in general. I have added just about everything I can to my fuze without changing rom or radio and I think it is an incredible phone that just keeps getting better with each day I find a new tweak or program to play with.
You can read my full review of my fuze on my blog at http://www.politicaldisgust.com/2008/12/05/att-htc-fuze-review/
For work I have had all the different Blackberry phones since the day they were released and with the type of usage I have they ALL ran out of battery during the day and had to be charged as mentioned above. Sure it was a little better then the fuze battery BUT the blackberry is 1/2 the phone/computer.
Check out my review. I am not jumping ship. It will only get better and better with new programs, cooked roms/radios, new cases released, etc.
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you are probably right. even the reviews of this HP phone i mentioned are mixed and say it's battery might not be that great.
I would definitely ditch the stock rom, also I heard security unlocking your phone greatly increases battery life, correct me if I'm wrong.
I wont be anytime soon. Like others said cooked rom's help as well as testing other radio's to see which one give the best battery life. I highly suggest getting your fuze security unlocked so you can test other radios. So far I'm loving this phone. At first I wasn't sure b/c the tilt was very good to me, but now I'm positive I won't be taking it back.
It'll only get better from here.
Cooked ROMs always break something though, and regardless you can't fix poor hardware design with a new ROM. To those who say they have the best phone out now, guess they haven't tried the Xperia yet.
You make a very good point..
/me muddles over to play with the xperia drivers
My brother has the hp 910. I liked it at first, I used to have 6515 and loved it. Since that phone I've been hooked on windows mobile. I liked the 910 but always wanted a bigger screen. Funny thing is this screen isn't bigger. However when I look at my brothers 910 i think 2 things:
DAmn this thing is super pixelated
and
I never realized how wide it was.
However I think HP does a way better job than HTC. I never had so many problems with my 6515, as I do with this phone. But, I can't go back once I had a taste of this vga sexy goodness.
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when is that supposed to be released? I'm definitely going to get one.
btw.. im squeezing more battery life out of my fuze with NATF's cooked ROM. I've had it on for about 14 hours and its only at 75% with moderate usage... I did turn off HSDPA because i thought 3G would get me a little better battery life
diar said:
It's coming up on 30 days so if you're going to return it the time is now. I like the Fuze a lot, but after the Tilt I realize how important battery life is. I can't take another year of 12 hours of battery life until the next HTC device with a weak battery.
I might have to get the HP 910 Business Messenger. It has comparable features and size but has a 1940 mAh battery. What other sub-$500 alternatives to the Fuze are there? If the early reviews on the HP phone are positive, I'm gone.
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if you want battery life, go with blackjack II or maybe even epix. Of all the phone's I've used, motorola probably lasts forever. U can always wait for their android phone~ HP is HUGE (have you seen it in person?)
I'm not having too much battery life problem running RomeOs. I hear NATF's really good too (i'm waiting for him to stabilize his ROM for GOOD b4 switching, i'm new to the flashing world so I'd rather wait until all the kinks are fixed). are you on 3G the whole time? No phone lasts long when they're on the 3G network constantly. maybe try disconnecting it after X seconds of inactivity?
I'm also planning to get a spare battery so i can make full use of the media functionality (ie. music over bluetooth, video, browsing...etc). Replaceable battery was one of the deciding factors for me when I was hunting for a new phone.
and...um...not sure if anyone's felt the same way, the topic for this thread's a bit belittling. I understand you're not satisfied with your handset, but there's really no need to make all the other fuze users who aren't jumping ship seem like idiots who cling onto their phone even tho it's "defective". (that's was the first thought that came to my mind before I actually read your post and understood ur dilemma). sorry about the vent, just had to get it out
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if you want battery life, go with blackjack II or maybe even epix. Of all the phone's I've used, motorola probably lasts forever. U can always wait for their android phone~ HP is HUGE (have you seen it in person?)
I'm not having too much battery life problem running RomeOs. I hear NATF's really good too (i'm waiting for him to stabilize his ROM for GOOD b4 switching, i'm new to the flashing world so I'd rather wait until all the kinks are fixed). are you on 3G the whole time? No phone lasts long when they're on the 3G network constantly. maybe try disconnecting it after X seconds of inactivity?
I'm also planning to get a spare battery so i can make full use of the media functionality (ie. music over bluetooth, video, browsing...etc). Replaceable battery was one of the deciding factors for me when I was hunting for a new phone.
and...um...not sure if anyone's felt the same way, the topic for this thread's a bit belittling. I understand you're not satisfied with your handset, but there's really no need to make all the other fuze users who aren't jumping ship seem like idiots who cling onto their phone even tho it's "defective". (that's was the first thought that came to my mind before I actually read your post and understood ur dilemma). sorry about the vent, just had to get it out
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lol...i'm definitely not attacking other fuze owners. just wondering how seriously people think the phone's flaws are. i'm going to try a cooked ROM and see how that goes.
Had to put my .02 in. Yes, I am jumping ship...from the iPhone to the Fuze. As an oldtime smartphone addict, I've tried a bunch of em over the years (yep, paid 599 for the original iPhone, but at least I didn't stand in line for it). Didn't upgrade to the 3G, cause they didn't add in the no-brainer stuff that everyone has talked about (and didn't want to give up my $20 data plan for a minimal upgrade). I will miss the SWEET UI, but the get-back features that the Fuze brings to the table are worth it (not to mention not having to juggle everything thru iTunes). From everything I've read, yes there have been some infancy gotcha's, but it appears to me that you smart folks have fixed the huge majority of them. Thanks guys <followed by an I'm not worthy bow> for the fixes, and this incredible info forum!
Well, to sum it up the Fuze for me:
o +0.6 is less broken than the Tilt graphically because it has some 2D/3D acceleration, but it's something like 60% of Kaiser's speeds.
o -1.0 has broken d-pad design by that company that designs only for show (and since HTC bought them, expect more of it)
o -1.0 poor case design that won't stand up to wear nor finger prints
o +1.5 has G-sensors that would make cool programming possibilities
o +1.0 has VGA display that should've been standard with Kaiser
0 +0.0 decent keyboard
o -1.0 is inferior, cheap-skate HTC/Qualcomm combination
vs Xperia (which I have yet to find in a store [and now delayed to January 12th, 2009]):
o +0.4 is less broken than Tilt graphically, but ~85% of Fuze's speed
o +0.5 doesn't have broken d-pad design, but questionable optical cursor
o +1.0 good case design that'll stand up to wear and fingerprints
o -1.5 doesn't have G-sensors for advanced programs
o +1.5 has VGA+ display for more screen estate usage such as PalmOS like writing/game-controller area
o -0.5 blah keyboard
o -1.0 is inferior, cheap-skate HTC/Qualcomm combination
so 0.1 versus 0.4 over the Kaiser. Hmm..
If only there was alternative Samsung/Xscale pda + 3D + accelerometers that isn't the iPhone.
hi
I am thinking to buy the Samsung Galaxy pro
I read many review and specfication but dint find any information about its ARMV
and on some sites there is a debate that it has got secondary camera or not
and does the adobe flash player works same as it runs on samsung galaxy s
plz clear my douts
thanx.........
I just got one... it does not have any secondary camera.... But let me tell u... i feel that its one of the best android mid range phone in the market... i know its not one of the prettiest looking but it surely is one carrying a good processor speed and RAM
@gauravkittz: Congrats on your new phone!
I am also looking at this phone seriously so I hope you don't mind a couple of questions.
In pinoytechblog {can't post links yet, so just google it), the reviewer posted that the Facebook app has the icons on both side cut off by the screen edge and arcMedia player won't display in landscape mode.
Can you comment on both these point? It's not like I want to use arcMedia player, but I just want to know if there are incompatibitlity with some programs existing for this device.
Next, what's your battery life like? If Samsung had included 1500 mA battery instead 1350 mA, it would have been the BOMB! but would really appreciate any estimate.
How's the music playback with the earphones provided with the set, and how many hours of music playback can the set handle?
Well, I hope you can give me some of the answers for the questions mentioned, and any shameless promoting of the handset is also welcome!
Thanks in advance!
I picked my Samsung Galaxy Pro up on Thursday and am really enjoying it.
The 800 Mhz processor and memory seem to buzz along quite comfortably and I seldom have any slowdowns or freezes.
I have not found Adobe Flash Player in the Market, and when I log onto market.android.com and try installing it from there I get a message saying it is not compatible with my device.
The battery life is comparable to my HTC Desire GSM in an average day's use (with skype running all the time)
The device was bought from a Three store in the UK and is network locked to Three UK.
Something also to note is that the Android version is 2.2.2 rather than the 2.2.1 as advertised on the Samsung and Three website.
If you have any more questions post them here or on Twitter @Todoleo, I'll do my best to get back to you asap.
@ todoleo: Thanks for the reply.
Can you by any chance comment on a certain complaint by a customer in some website (which I forgot about) that there is no call accept and call end button and he had a hard time ending calls? It sound so stupid on paper, and looking at the phone, there is not call accept and call end button, but I always assumed that there were on-screen equivalent...
Can you give some numbers regarding battery life? I know that battery life is directly affected by how you use the phone, but gmarena user reviews gave such conflicting information, I thought I would ask you for some clarification.
Lastly, regarding Flash, I do remember reading in some website that the phone is Flash 10.1 compatible and some people claim to be able to play youtube vids direct from websites; are the misinformed or is it confirmed that the phone is Flash incompatible?
Thanks for all you help! Flash is not the deal breaker for me. Battery life is more important. If I can get some positive confirmation about the rumored 600+ standby time - or even a third of the time mentioned - I'll be very happy.
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@ todoleo: Thanks for the reply.
Can you by any chance comment on a certain complaint by a customer in some website (which I forgot about) that there is no call accept and call end button and he had a hard time ending calls? It sound so stupid on paper, and looking at the phone, there is not call accept and call end button, but I always assumed that there were on-screen equivalent...
Can you give some numbers regarding battery life? I know that battery life is directly affected by how you use the phone, but gmarena user reviews gave such conflicting information, I thought I would ask you for some clarification.
Lastly, regarding Flash, I do remember reading in some website that the phone is Flash 10.1 compatible and some people claim to be able to play youtube vids direct from websites; are the misinformed or is it confirmed that the phone is Flash incompatible?
Thanks for all you help! Flash is not the deal breaker for me. Battery life is more important. If I can get some positive confirmation about the rumored 600+ standby time - or even a third of the time mentioned - I'll be very happy.
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As far as battery life is concerned I can explain how I use the phone and how long the battery lasts. I am a heavy user and always have 3g/umts switched on with Skype+seesmic+gmail+gtalk running in the background.
When I get up and go to work, I unplug the phone and use it all day for calls, texts and data. When I get home in the evening, I still have battery left to do sofa surfing while watching tv. As far as I am concerned the battery life is similar to the HTC Desire and the ZTE Blade: enough to get me through a day.
The phone has no green and red call hardware buttons. The Software does have start and end call buttons. I believe the proximity sensor kicks in when in a call because when I move the phone from my ear to look at the screen the screen turns on and I do have an end call button to press onscreen.
So far I have not been able to install or run flash on the device, but I'll look into it and let you know.
Feel free to ask any more questions!
keyboard backlight
The keyboard backlight turns off after about 20 secs unlike the display which can be set. It is annoying when you sms in the dark... Anyone experience this problem...?
matt
matteosg said:
The keyboard backlight turns off after about 20 secs unlike the display which can be set. It is annoying when you sms in the dark... Anyone experience this problem...?
matt
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What happens when you press an arrow key? You don't type anything and the screen keeps on.
I don't have the pone yet but I think it would be a solution...
Phonearena review:
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Samsung-Galaxy-Pro-Review_id2736
i just got the device, and it seems OK
screen is not the best with small text for my eyes
no flash support is a bummer although it was mentioned that it will support it over at GSMARENA.com
altogether the device is neat, and beats some blackberry devices with one hand
right now i have only one concern, how to update the software as there isnt Kies support!
i got mine recently. its an awesome phone. keyboard is snappy for messaging, phone calls sounds good for both parties. SipDroid works a charm. ummm, yeah as a phone its really really good. If you want a smart phone with a large screen, perhaps its not for you. but if you spend most of you time using a phone or sending messages, its very good. little apps work, things like skype work. ability to create VPN's back to your home systems (avoiding the phone networks) works. Google maps with the GPS etc. For me, the screen size is fine - i suspect the next gen will be bigger. I've never really bothered with twatter or facebook etc and its nice to have a phone by default where these aren't in your face.
basically, it works and I think works very well. My previous phone was a smartphone with oodles of processing and a large touch screen but I found I never used most of its potential and as I have a tablet (of which tethers happily to the samsung on 3G) for large screen browsing i recommend this phone!
Here you have a review that I made few days ago:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXUecPyNNhM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uenK3POdaKI
you knows how and where you can unlock Samsung Galaxy Pro B7510 ?
I found the cheapest on the auction in allegro Poland is something like ebay. 39.99 PLN = £ 8.81
i purchased galaxy pro 1 month before..
bought it in 11700/- in bangalore,, after barganing..
this one is ma firsy android phone so it feels me nice..
camera and video both quality is really good ..
processor is also really fast...
sound quality is good...
touch is good..
i got sm prb related to this one..
1. battery- battery is not as expected.. it's discharged within 12 hours..
if i started using it from morning 10 to 8 then it ll okkk..
2. phone memory- in built memory is also low.. only 181mb
so cant install many full version games at a time..
ram - ram is 279mb.. ram is good,, not bad..
overall phone is good..
only the prb is battery..
otherwise its a best phone wid in this range..
robin1429 said:
i purchased galaxy pro 1 month before..
bought it in 11700/- in bangalore,, after barganing..
this one is ma firsy android phone so it feels me nice..
camera and video both quality is really good ..
processor is also really fast...
sound quality is good...
touch is good..
i got sm prb related to this one..
1. battery- battery is not as expected.. it's discharged within 12 hours..
if i started using it from morning 10 to 8 then it ll okkk..
2. phone memory- in built memory is also low.. only 181mb
so cant install many full version games at a time..
ram - ram is 279mb.. ram is good,, not bad..
overall phone is good..
only the prb is battery..
otherwise its a best phone wid in this range..
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You can install apps on the SD. Go to Settings/Applications...
The RAM is 512mb but Android needs memory to be loaded. For this reason you "only" have 279Mb of RAM. If we could install some cooked ROM we would have more RAM but I don't know if this phone will be as successful as for it. It's soon for this, I think.
xfox said:
i just got the device, and it seems OK
screen is not the best with small text for my eyes
no flash support is a bummer although it was mentioned that it will support it over at GSMARENA.com
altogether the device is neat, and beats some blackberry devices with one hand
right now i have only one concern, how to update the software as there isnt Kies support!
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It should be supported...
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It should be supported...
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I think QVGA resolution isn't supported...
I have been playing with my Galaxy Pro these past days. This is what i noticed.
1. Battery
I have an app called Battery indicator and OSMonitor which indicate the percentage of battery left. I charged the phone while it is switched off up to 100%. I switched it on without the plug. The app read 97%. And after five minutes, it dropped to 93%. Then it jumped to 87%. Then stayed 87% for a long time. I don't know what is the logic of these apps. Of course you cannot see the % in the notification bar. It just show the battery image, no percentage. So samsung might have intentionally not put the % so users will not complain. I will inform you later what is the actual time till it is dead.
2. Samsung IM App
Samsung is nice to include this. But only YM, Windows Messenger and Google talk? No Facebook?. Also, when using the app, you have no option to hide offline contacts.
3. Some apps cannot be seen in the Market
The reason could be that the app does not support the phone's resolution. I have android before and playing Words with friends. I cannot see this phone in the market.
I've heard ther's no kies support?
what does this mean?no updates?
I'm trying to understand if it's better value for money than the htc chacha
am sure chacha will be more expensive than galaxy pro. But 600Mhz processor? If the battery is significantly longer, I may shift.
Update regarding battery. In my third day of Galaxy pro, it passed 16hours of moderate to heavy use. This includes always online in Trillian (chat client with YM/FB)... Ocassional web surfing, sms.. No music/video yet as am still testing this as messenging machine...
I have my portable battery with me so i can charge it anywhere.. though, I home there will be a higher capacity battery available out there. 16hours of continous use is acceptable for me..
[email protected],
Are you regret n the buy of this phone? I do! This phone makes me mad. Is such a buggy piece of crap is unbelievable. There is almost no custom Roms battery life sucks even without using s3d, apps aren't working proper and i have to reboot this frekin phone after a while to work properly.
I can say this is a epic fail in my eyes. Not once had I this much of problems with a smartphone.
Unfortunately I paid a premium price for this crappy fon.
I really hope gb will iron out those problems or else I'll get f$%@#n mental.
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who is "GB"?
heard that name a couple of times but still dont know.
And well...i trade my evo 3d in tommorow and get the optimus 3d.
The evo3d surely isnt a better device. lag and speed drops all the way, everywhere. even pinch to zoom in the browser lags...and i need to wait everywhere...even wait 1 - 2 secs before the keyboards pops up.
And it didnt sync my emails properly.
Wanted to buy the galaxy s2 but well....i DID love the evo 3d's 3d screen. its nicer then on the o3d because resolution, but that means its not far off.
Glad I've visited from s2 section was gonna go from s2 to optimus 3d it looks superb on reviews on you tube but is it as good as they make out, I like to be up to date on my smart phones but might stick with s2 what do you users think.?
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...........
i regret even laying eyes on this piece of crap so what i did was make my lil brother take it off me cuz he loves it. So i am gonna wait for the next nexus phone to come out this October its called the nexus prime imma get that the s2 can shove it too i hate it lol....
Best phone in Holland never have.problems
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Paran0idAndr0id said:
[email protected],
Are you regret n the buy of this phone? I do! This phone makes me mad. Is such a buggy piece of crap is unbelievable. There is almost no custom Roms battery life sucks even without using s3d, apps aren't working proper and i have to reboot this frekin phone after a while to work properly.
I can say this is a epic fail in my eyes. Not once had I this much of problems with a smartphone.
Unfortunately I paid a premium price for this crappy fon.
I really hope gb will iron out those problems or else I'll get f$%@#n mental.
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Hi mate.You really seem to have problems with your O3D. Have had mine for more than 1 month and its incredible. I had a SGS2 before and i just can't miss anything from that.I made my own custom ROM (you should do that too) and it works amazing, fast and stable.I have all Gameloft 3D games and they work just better in 3D than in the SGS2 in 2D wich needed its GPU to be locked at max to get descent FPS.In my opinion the LG O3D is the only phone out there that i could say "WOWWW" after playing with.Battery life is really bad i agree, but have you tried the other dual core phones ? they are pretty terrible as well. We gonna get GB soon and im pretty sure that the phone is gonna get a lot better, FROYO dont work properly on dual core devices.As soon as we get GB Im gonna start developing again, dont want to waste time with Froyo.
No regrets what so ever,its so super fast,no lag at all...love it !!!
Paran0idAndr0id said:
[email protected],
Are you regret n the buy of this phone? I do! This phone makes me mad. Is such a buggy piece of crap is unbelievable. There is almost no custom Roms battery life sucks even without using s3d, apps aren't working proper and i have to reboot this frekin phone after a while to work properly.
I can say this is a epic fail in my eyes. Not once had I this much of problems with a smartphone.
Unfortunately I paid a premium price for this crappy fon.
I really hope gb will iron out those problems or else I'll get f$%@#n mental.
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Haven't noticed any major bugs with the phone, sure the software is far from the best but not that bad IMO and LG have released patches.
As for Custom ROMs, really what do people think? the phone is extremely new, released like 2 months ago and not even out in the US yet, CM is under development, going pretty fast but it still takes time, it's not like they can just pull it out of a hat, it takes hard work and many hours, in this case given by Ricardo who does this on his free time and not only for the O3D but other hardware as well, expecting a massive amount of CustomROMs within 2 months seems a bit ... After CM is released you'll probably see much more custom ROMs appearing.
Battery life is low yes (not really a surprise if you'd read anything about the phone before getting it) , much because of the screen but also because of unoptimized code because of new hardware etc. will hopefully get better with new software releases or you could get another battery or portable charger. (Running 3D actually doesn't require that much more battery then running the screen normally, it's the brightness and the screen tech that needs a fair amount of power).
If you could be more specific with what problems you have exactly people might be able to help you, just screaming bloody murder wont help much.
For ex.
What apps aren't working properly? And how aren't they working?
What are you doing when you have to reboot the phone to get it to work?
Got any custom apps like a custom lockscreen like agile lock or a custom home app?
Have you tried any battery saving apps?
Also if you haven't had problems like this before with a Smart phone you are either very lucky or you've never bought a extremely new smart phone, all new releases got a few problems here and there, the worst problems usually get sorted about 6 months after first release, compared to my other phones this one has had surprisingly few major issues for being a new phone and that's even more impressive when you realise that it's a new chipset for phones.
I had an HD2 with CM7 when this phone arrived (so I'm not a newbie here). It's for testing 'cause iPhone 4 is a bit expensive so where I work are in search of a good high end working phone.
The O3D has all the requisites out of the box but one: battery. I had it in a construction area and it barely reached 10 hours of normal use plus some gps.
About the hangs and apps that don't work... I only had a problem with Tasker, and it seems it was my problem and not the phone.
IMHO it's a good phone. Maybe your unit was defective?
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Someone tell what or who GB is or il open a topic lol...
I do regret it at moment, having come from a galaxy s with custom roms and absolute crazy battery life..at moment I'd swap it for a galaxy II..BUT am waiting for the october update and more custom roms, so it's still early days for this phone so gonna stick with it as slowly it seems to be moving forward...
@borgqueen the gb they are refering to is gingerbread
Lol I guess I created the topic on a weak moment. But seriously I hate sometimes this fon. Although I got a battery pack with higher capacity the battery dies prematurely. And no I didn't try any other dual core fones but heard that the galaxy 2 has much better battery life.
And I did had the newest smartphones such as htc desire etc.
So be more specific my issues are
1. YouTube player is acting out sometimes and if I fastforward then there seems to be weird color distortion
2. Can't change the bloody user agent in dolphin browser (might be the browser tough heard some fons have this bug) and also sometimes dolphin browser isn't reacting at all or any other browser until I reboot the fone? So definitely not browser related
3. Watching online flash content is a nightmare and this could be froyo related as on any gb fon I tried there where no issues non so ever .
4. Battery life is horrendous
5. Battery life is horrendous
6. Fon doesn't react some times at all and i have to force reboot
I think the fon has great potential but the software is so not in tune with the fon. So as I said I really hope GB will solve some issues here.
By the way I really don't want to offend anyone but it's just my opinion on things so don't fanboy me )
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Lol I guess I created the topic on a weak moment. But seriously I hate sometimes this fon. Although I got a battery pack with higher capacity the battery dies prematurely. And no I didn't try any other dual core fones but heard that the galaxy 2 has much better battery life.
And I did had the newest smartphones such as htc desire etc.
So be more specific my issues are
1. YouTube player is acting out sometimes and if I fastforward then there seems to be weird color distortion
2. Can't change the bloody user agent in dolphin browser (might be the browser tough heard some fons have this bug) and also sometimes dolphin browser isn't reacting at all or any other browser until I reboot the fone? So definitely not browser related
3. Watching online flash content is a nightmare and this could be froyo related as on any gb fon I tried there where no issues non so ever .
4. Battery life is horrendous
5. Battery life is horrendous
6. Fon doesn't react some times at all and i have to force reboot
I think the fon has great potential but the software is so not in tune with the fon. So as I said I really hope GB will solve some issues here.
By the way I really don't want to offend anyone but it's just my opinion on things so don't fanboy me )
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Dual core phone actually require less battery than single core, but the difference is not that big, SGS2 has a Super AMOLED+ screen and a little bit more power in the battery = more time on a charge. (but from what I've heard they also have some problems with some units magically draining like 30% of battery in mere minutes, only hear say for me though so don't quote me on that)
Haven't watched that much Youtube on the phone but seems more like a network or app problem than the phone?
Sure that Dophin browser don't have a problem with the phone and are affecting other browsers? I've used FF and Original, actually like the Original best and I've not experienced that the browser stopped responding, some apps that are not working correctly can affect other apps, Agile Lock for some reason killed my SIM unlock app and made it almost impossible to use the phone, removed it and haven't had any problem with the SIM card after that.
Nightmare in what way? Laggy?
Battery life is pretty bad, true, not much you can do about it, use a lower brightness on your screen, try out CPU tuner and limit the phone, I've actually got my phone running MAX 600Mhz instead of 1Ghz, gives me about an hour of extra active usage and haven't found anything that really suffers because of the slower speed. Hopefully software updates will help the battery life, my old Hero had like 6hours usage when I first got it, when I retired it that was up to 24-48hours. Also if you need it, check out portable charger on Ebay, I got mine for ~$30 from Hong Kong, 5000mAh just plug in and charge via USB, with the 5V 1A output it fully recharges my phone from 0-100% in just under 3 hours and with the extra mAh you got like 2days away from the outlet, not ideal but works
Or get the 3500mAh battery if you prefer that.
Is it in sleep mode it stops reacting? That's some software glitch that LG has in their 2.2 release, only seems to affect some people noticeably, LG O2X has the same glitch and a nightly not to long ago for CM7 on the O2X reproduced the problem from what I've read.
Or is it while using it that it just stops responding?
I'll try now few other roms out there. No the fon freezes while using the fon actively. I got the problem with sleep too. Anyways there is no way other than wait for a proper cm7 release. Guess is not that far away, no
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I am back on a GS2 and it smokes this phone totally, still have the O3D but I don't use it now, i have come to the conclusion even with the 3D it doesn't make it a good choice over the GS2 its just better in every way.
Hmm i dont regret at all having this phone i had iphone 4 before optimus 3d and i have to say its the best phone i ever have had in all ways...but yeah the battery are a little problem my tip for that take down the quick meny and turn off all data settings like wifi 3g bluetooth after turned off all those settings the battery have lasted for about 2 days and i still have power on it...so no the battery are not the biggest problem here if you do that! and like alot reviews are saying android is leeching data alot therfor it use power turn those off to save battery
This phone is awesome. Anyone who regrets buying it has problems with "grass is greener syndrome" which no amount of coding and tweaking can solve.
The problem is not with the phone. The problem is with your lack of patience and understanding of what is realistic performance and developer support of a brand new device.
Chill out, smoke em if you got em. Most of us will have this phone for a year minimum so there will be plenty of software improvements from both LG and the dev community during that time. LG have already updated like three times. My motorola milestone didnt even get three updates in ITS ENTIRE LIFESPAN.
Be appreciative of what you have.
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I totally agree this phone is great. I've only been using it since Saturday, but I'm extremely impressed. It's speedy, responsive. I'm digging 3D photos and gaming. The build quality is excellent. It feels sturdy and not cheap or too plasticky.
As with all phones, there are drawbacks like the battery life, but it's by no means a deal-breaker. It's also relatively easy to improve (Juice Defender, reduced screen brightness, etc.). Also, if I try to open too many games at once it may freeze on occasion, but all of the 3D games are very hardcore, resource-intensive applications so any phone will freak if you push it too far.
I couldn't be happier with it.
Hi. I want to buy the new Nexus 5 from Google/LG and i want to ask about the Android 4.4.2 update.
I have read that there were issues (again similar to the Nexus 4) that there were occasional wifi signal dropouts, weak speakers, screen quality and the camera.
Has these problems been resolved with the update?
Please advice. Thanks.
The sound of the speaker is average! It's a hardware thing, no software update can change it.. If you want some boost, you will need to root it and install a sound mod like Viper4android...
No wifi signal dropouts here. Whaatttttt??? The screen on this beast is a real BEAUT!
The camera is pretty good and can manage decent shots.
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Hi. I want to buy the new Nexus 5 from Google/LG and i want to ask about the Android 4.4.2 update.
I have read that there were issues (again similar to the Nexus 4) that there were occasional wifi signal dropouts, weak speakers, screen quality and the camera.
Has these problems been resolved with the update?
Please advice. Thanks.
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Never had wifi problem, speaker is easily fixed and they addressed it in 4.4.2, my screen is perfect, and my camera is perfect.
This nice man made a volume boost mod http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2532788
and this nice man made a camera mod http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2516061
As i have mentioned in my other thread i'm not into modding or rooting as for me its too technical and i would rather air my complaints (and suggestions) to Google et al and wait for the official updates be it minor or major.
This is my 2nd-ever Nexus phone. The other one being the Nexus 4 and i didn't like it as there were just too many issues and problems hardware-wide and also software.
I would like to give this phone a chance and i hope the unit i got from Carphone Warehouse is free from hardware "abnormalities" and problems as they don't offer refunds anymore and only just exchange.
I heard after the 4.4.2 update there were still issues with the camera like it tends to over compensate or over saturate in some instances. The contrast algorithim (or whatever they call it) was tweaked but somewhat of a hit n' miss depending on the time of the day. True?
Also, how's is the shutter lag? (i.e. in-between shots) Is it a lot faster now than the N4? My old Galaxy S3 and my current iPhone 5C has an almost zero shutter lag which will benefit me.
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As i have mentioned in my other thread i'm not into modding or rooting as for me its too technical and i would rather air my complaints (and suggestions) to Google et al and wait for the official updates be it minor or major.
This is my 2nd-ever Nexus phone. The other one being the Nexus 4 and i didn't like it as there were just too many issues and problems hardware-wide and also software.
I would like to give this phone a chance and i hope the unit i got from Carphone Warehouse is free from hardware "abnormalities" and problems as they don't offer refunds anymore and only just exchange.
I heard after the 4.4.2 update there were still issues with the camera like it tends to over compensate or over saturate in some instances. The contrast algorithim (or whatever they call it) was tweaked but somewhat of a hit n' miss depending on the time of the day. True?
Also, how's is the shutter lag? (i.e. in-between shots) Is it a lot faster now than the N4? My old Galaxy S3 and my current iPhone 5C has an almost zero shutter lag which will benefit me.
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Rooting and stuff is not technical at all, it requires little to no knowledge. Just read the guide threads..
My belief is that if i mod or root a device the warranty will be void and that i cannot "un-root" it again. My other worry is the rooting procedure might introduce bugs or even viruses. That's my belief. Again, i could be wrong.
I still would go to the normal route i.e. waiting for official updates based on end-user comments/complaints/issues/suggestions which i do every now and again till Google and those other OEM's realise things.
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My belief is that if i mod or root a device the warranty will be void and that i cannot "un-root" it again. My other worry is the rooting procedure might introduce bugs or even viruses. That's my belief. Again, i could be wrong.
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Hi,
You can unroot and go back to stock: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513701.
As for viruses and bugs, it's not the root that can cause that but more what you will do after rooting your device... There is no bug, at least no more than a non rooted device, with only rooting your device. It's only if you modify some files system, flash something not stable, or the wrong file and so on. If you install a "crappy" or cracked app with root access (and allow it without know what it does), yes maybe you can encounter some bugs or viruses. It's on the user side...
I have not rooted my phone and it's perfect, i have no complaints whatsoever. I keep refraining myself from rooting tho because of gravitybox, my geeky side keeps telling me to root but i don't right now because i don't need it, but i will definitely do it after a year or something (knowing myself).
gino_76ph said:
My belief is that if i mod or root a device the warranty will be void and that i cannot "un-root" it again. My other worry is the rooting procedure might introduce bugs or even viruses. That's my belief. Again, i could be wrong.
I still would go to the normal route i.e. waiting for official updates based on end-user comments/complaints/issues/suggestions which i do every now and again till Google and those other OEM's realise things.
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When using Fastboot and ADB its commands so there is no chance of bugs or viruses.modding is what XDA is all about.
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I could maybe try rooting my device one day. But until then i'm happy with normal updates.
I have been reading about the "fiasco" of 4.4.1 and i just think that Google sometimes don't listen to end-user complaints too quickly and they would rather sit back and wait till the complaints are a mountain high (with the same issues attached to it) until they act.
I used my N5 for a week, stock and unrooted. I had absolutely no problems with it. I got used to the screen after a day and never really complained about it. I even think it's the best screen so far, especially outdoors. Zero wifi signal drops. My phone speakers wake me up using the alarm clock. Camera can produce excellent photos; take a look inside the picture thread. It's really just the feature-itch that kept me flashing custom roms.
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I used my N5 for a week, stock and unrooted. I had absolutely no problems with it. I got used to the screen after a day and never really complained about it. I even think it's the best screen so far, especially outdoors. Zero wifi signal drops. My phone speakers wake me up using the alarm clock. Camera can produce excellent photos; take a look inside the picture thread. It's really just the feature-itch that kept me flashing custom roms.
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Sorry i can't find the picture thread.
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Sorry i can't find the picture thread.
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Hi,
Here: [PHOTOS] Post Your Pictures and Videos...
ej8989 said:
I used my N5 for a week, stock and unrooted. I had absolutely no problems with it. I got used to the screen after a day and never really complained about it. I even think it's the best screen so far, especially outdoors. Zero wifi signal drops. My phone speakers wake me up using the alarm clock. Camera can produce excellent photos; take a look inside the picture thread. It's really just the feature-itch that kept me flashing custom roms.
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I have been hearing somewhat conflicting comments that the 4.4.2 camera still has more space for improvements. It can sometimes bring oversaturatedness, greyness, haziness and still weak in the low-light department.
Another issue i heard is the battery seems still not convincingly and dramatically improved from the last time. 3G & 4G signal seems also not perfect. What i mean is if the phone comes from a 3G to a 4G area the phone either reboots itself, turns itself off or would take time to "reconfigure" its software to know that its in a strong 4G signal. Am i making sense?
Is there any truth to this?
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Is there any truth to this?
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Not with respect to my phone.
Still somewhat not convinced. There are still some known issues with 4.4.2 i heard. I'm not too worried about the camera as i believe it is much improved but my other main concern is the battery life.
Some are saying that the "Android system" (or the OS) is the culprit. I'm not an engineer but is it because of maybe the way the OS works or something. I also heard that there are random wifi crashes, phone just turns off by itself and when the phone is actually asleep it drains a lot and then the battery heats up, etc.
I'm sorry to be bringing this issues up buy you hear and read this online and it seems credible. If more than 1 person have been complaining the same thing surely there is truth to the issue.
5Hi,
In my opinion stop the "I heard someone" or "some are saying" and jump the train...
4.4.2 is way better than 4.4/4.4.1 (and yes I ran stock rom in the past ).
About Android usage in battery stats is already discussed here, I mean in this Q&A forum, I have not it, like almost 90% (or more) users, it's on the user side (whatever some other users tends to think). It can happen on 4.4/4.4.1 too... but since a minority of users are still on this version and the updates have been quick, nobody still speak about it.
Wi-Fi crashes, phone turn OFF by itself (on full stock?) it's also a very large minority on stock (I would say never), it could be due to the user too, no?
High battery drain in idle-> mostly user side (rogue app for example). Ans so on...
Don't mixe what your read about some problems between stock rom and custom rom/kernel/mods...., in my opinion (and I'm not alone) all you read is nothing, biased feedback due to some users who don't know how use their phones, install xx and xy apps and after that they are complaining about battery life, bugs and so on
Battery heat (or CPU?), what is heat for you or for the guy who said that? I any case there is thermal throttle to prevent any dammage and you are running a quadcore CPU (with a max CPU freq at 2,26 GHz ) enclosed without thermal cooling so in certain circumstances expect some heat...
If you are not still convinced, hum... don't do anything
Test and see by yourself, sometimes it will be better than read something here and there... . I'm not saying that you are "reported" is false but nonestly it's mostly ******, at least like I said it's not about 4.4.2 itself but user side.
That being said you seem a user easily influenced by some things read or heard here and there, maybe you'll be more influenced by the replies in your thread
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Still somewhat not convinced. There are still some known issues with 4.4.2 i heard. I'm not too worried about the camera as i believe it is much improved but my other main concern is the battery life.
Some are saying that the "Android system" (or the OS) is the culprit. I'm not an engineer but is it because of maybe the way the OS works or something. I also heard that there are random wifi crashes, phone just turns off by itself and when the phone is actually asleep it drains a lot and then the battery heats up, etc.
I'm sorry to be bringing this issues up buy you hear and read this online and it seems credible. If more than 1 person have been complaining the same thing surely there is truth to the issue.
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I have not experienced any of these issues when I was on stock for a week. I suggest you go buy the nexus 5 and return it if you don't like it then try the G2 if you really want amazing battery life. But I assure you, once you experience Nexus, you'll go back to Nexus.
Well, for one thing i had a Nexus 4 and i had to return/sell it because of so many issues. And those same issues have again cropped-up in the stock Nexus 5 4.4/4.4.1/4.4.2. Sounds familiar?
Yes it's true it "could be" a minority who have the same issues but its STILL a minority and its STILL the same issues. It's either the users fault or the phone itself. Yes it could be malicious/battery-draining apps or a ROM that has some bugs, etc. But in the past 6 months i have not heard of a "minority" of HTC One or Galaxy S3/S4 users that have the same issues. Have you? It does tell you something about how the phone was made and how Google pushes its updates.
I know and i'm well aware that the only thing to do is to actually try one. But what if if i try one, got the same problems, do a factory reset, still same problems, have to return/sell the thing and so on. Its such a hassle. That is why i am looking for answers and reviews/comments here. And i truly appreciate all your insights. I really do.
Call me fuzzy or overly-careful. I'm not looking for a "perfect" Google Nexus phone. I just want a phone (and Android phone as such) that works.
Again, as i said i'm not overly worried about the camera because a phone camera can & will never replace a proper one.My other concern is the 4.4.2 battery life. My Nexus 4's battery life was near atrocious. Could not tell you how long (or short) it's battery life is thats is why i got rid of it. But if a number of issues come up with the same battery life issue and battery getting warmer then am i to worry?
My typical day is get up at 6AM, remove the charger on my phone (if it was charged overnight), turn it off or turn the wifi off whilst i have my shower, get on the bus and the train, turn on my mobile data then checking the morning news/weather/notes/Twitter, get on to my work and keep my mobile data (and everything else like wifi, bluetooth, NFC...you know) turned off, turn on my data again for my 30-minute lunch and turn it off when back to my afternoon shift, going back home i listen to some music (a typical journey lasts around 45 minutes) whilst at the same time checking out some tech news on Appy Geek, when i'm at home i turn off my mobile data and connect to my home wifi (kept On till until i wake up again the next morning) whilst in-between supper & shower & bed i check Twiiter again, Instagram, couple of Youtube videos, email, playing a game which would last maybe 30-60 minutes max and that's it. I sleep around 11PM and wake up again around 6AM.
My questions are:
1. Anything to worry about the battery life?
2. Is it wise to install a "battery saving" app on the Play store?
3. Will heat be a factor on my "typical" day on draining my battery life?
4. Is it true the battery life improves after a couple of charges?
The area where i live, where i travel and my work place hasn't got a strong 4G signal. I have no problems with my home broadband/wifi as i typically have a very fast and stable connection. So...
5. Will the phone picking up 3G & 4G signal (switching back & forth and re-initializing again and again) be a factor in a battery drain?
6. What tips can you advice me on how to save battery life on my Nexus 5?
Thanks peeps.
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1. Anything to worry about the battery life?
Based on how you use your phone, not really. Unless there's a hardware defect.
2. Is it wise to install a "battery saving" app on the Play store?
For me, no. I once tried one and it didn't help at all. But there's no harm in trying.
3. Will heat be a factor on my "typical" day on draining my battery life?
A few weeks ago I did some heavy gaming for an hour and the phone was really warm, but I still got >5hrs SoT at the end of the day before charging again.
4. Is it true the battery life improves after a couple of charges?
Yes the battery life is somewhat improved; but what I experienced was that it improves when I stay in the same ROM for some days, and I charge it overnight when the battery is less than 5%.
5. Will the phone picking up 3G & 4G signal (switching back & forth and re-initializing again and again) be a factor in a battery drain?
In my opinion (and experience), yes.
6. What tips can you advice me on how to save battery life on my Nexus 5?
Here's a thread you can analyze: Nexus 5 Battery Results
Sooo. I have had this phone from T-Mobile for the past few weeks and have a few hot takes on it.
For starters I wanted to return it almost 2 days in after figuring out about the performance this device had. But was promised an update and 2 weeks later it was delivered.
So these hot takes are going to be after the update.
1. So far almost no stutter I've found has been fixed. Home stutter, app stutter all still here.
2. WE SHOULD HAVE TO OPTIMIZE SH*T ON A 1300 DEVICE. The fact that some answers you get here are "did you follow the optimaztion guide?" I shouldn't have to touch anything! Do you think the average consumer is gonna go through the hoops of 3 factory resets, a firmware flash, and praying to whatever God to get sub par performance?
3. The camera lag is rediculous.
I went to AEW (wrestling show) and couldn't even pull my camera up up fast enough to get any good shots!. And not to mention the shutter lag waiting for the image to capture! Also 4k60 recording in a timely manner? Laughable. I have never had this many issues with a Samsung device in the first few weeks as I've had with this one.
4. Signal drops consistently. (Doesn't really bother me because I use wifi calling)
5. Battery has gotten better since the update so no issues there.
6. Snapchat lag in camera ui.
7. Ram management is a joke. Even with ram plus.
8. Display is beautiful but dims to high heaven in gaming.
9. Abysmal update times compared to exynos.
10. Zoom is awesome.
I'm sure there are more but geesh.
Adding a photo for AEW fans lol
Try clearing the system cache.
All Samsung's need to be optimized and I'm not talking about enabling power management. It tends to do the opposite and will likely cause erratic behavior.
What's going on with the ram?
Wonder if scoped storage is helping to screw it up? It uses extra cpu cycles not sure if it impacts ram usage though. I deliberately avoided Android 11 and 12 because of it... no regrets.
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Try clearing the system cache.
All Samsung's need to be optimized and I'm not talking about enabling power management. It tends to do the opposite and will likely cause erratic behavior.
What's going on with the ram?
Wonder if scoped storage is helping to screw it up? It uses extra cpu cycles not sure if it impacts ram usage though. I deliberately avoided Android 11 and 12 because of it... no regrets.
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Just seems like only 4 apps at a time can stay in memory anything after that is reloaded.
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Just seems like only 4 apps at a time can stay in memory anything after that is reloaded.
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Can you change that in Developer options?
Standard limit... or did they change the "standard"?
Lol, I close out apps constantly especially Brave browser which always runs in the background otherwise.
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Sooo. I have had this phone from T-Mobile for the past few weeks and have a few hot takes on it.
For starters I wanted to return it almost 2 days in after figuring out about the performance this device had. But was promised an update and 2 weeks later it was delivered.
So these hot takes are going to be after the update.
1. So far almost no stutter I've found has been fixed. Home stutter, app stutter all still here.
2. WE SHOULD HAVE TO OPTIMIZE SH*T ON A 1300 DEVICE. The fact that some answers you get here are "did you follow the optimaztion guide?" I shouldn't have to touch anything! Do you think the average consumer is gonna go through the hoops of 3 factory resets, a firmware flash, and praying to whatever God to get sub par performance?
3. The camera lag is rediculous.
I went to AEW (wrestling show) and couldn't even pull my camera up up fast enough to get any good shots!. And not to mention the shutter lag waiting for the image to capture! Also 4k60 recording in a timely manner? Laughable. I have never had this many issues with a Samsung device in the first few weeks as I've had with this one.
4. Signal drops consistently. (Doesn't really bother me because I use wifi calling)
5. Battery has gotten better since the update so no issues there.
6. Snapchat lag in camera ui.
7. Ram management is a joke. Even with ram plus.
8. Display is beautiful but dims to high heaven in gaming.
9. Abysmal update times compared to exynos.
10. Zoom is awesome.
I'm sure there are more but geesh.
Adding a photo for AEW fans lol
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Exynos i think?
joemossjr said:
Sooo. I have had this phone from T-Mobile for the past few weeks and have a few hot takes on it.
For starters I wanted to return it almost 2 days in after figuring out about the performance this device had. But was promised an update and 2 weeks later it was delivered.
So these hot takes are going to be after the update.
1. So far almost no stutter I've found has been fixed. Home stutter, app stutter all still here.
2. WE SHOULD HAVE TO OPTIMIZE SH*T ON A 1300 DEVICE. The fact that some answers you get here are "did you follow the optimaztion guide?" I shouldn't have to touch anything! Do you think the average consumer is gonna go through the hoops of 3 factory resets, a firmware flash, and praying to whatever God to get sub par performance?
3. The camera lag is rediculous.
I went to AEW (wrestling show) and couldn't even pull my camera up up fast enough to get any good shots!. And not to mention the shutter lag waiting for the image to capture! Also 4k60 recording in a timely manner? Laughable. I have never had this many issues with a Samsung device in the first few weeks as I've had with this one.
4. Signal drops consistently. (Doesn't really bother me because I use wifi calling)
5. Battery has gotten better since the update so no issues there.
6. Snapchat lag in camera ui.
7. Ram management is a joke. Even with ram plus.
8. Display is beautiful but dims to high heaven in gaming.
9. Abysmal update times compared to exynos.
10. Zoom is awesome.
I'm sure there are more but geesh.
Adding a photo for AEW fans lol
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I think people need to accept that Android is essentially malware and was designed by a company to continuously extract as much information on you as possible behind the scenes. I would estimate at least 90% of all Android apps participate in this game to gain your info for profit. People wonder why phones are sluggish with all this activity happening in the background. This is the cost for all of us users to get an OS and application environment for free.
So the fact that each of us needs to fine tune, debloat, optimize, etc on any new phone to reign in the OS and apps to get acceptable performance is not something new. It really is a journey to research and get any phone working smoothly as each one of us has different use cases.
PS - my new S22 Ultra (SD/T-Mobile) is fast as lightning and I'm very happy with it.
This has been the worst new phone transition I've ever had. From trying to order to Samsung stretching the truth about the specs, to configuring every app from scratch. To multiple Factory Resets just to solve something buggy. To Google apps not performing the same.
I expected the major debloat and privacy settings. I did not expect T-Mo to install Facebook 4 times nor that it would take 6 phone calls to unlock a phone I paid for fully.
I am happy with the performance, screen, and the camera is beyond words. Hoping I am about done configuring and side loading. adb is your friend.
So far, the S22 Ultra feels like the Note20 Ultra with faster data speeds, better battery life, and slightly better camera. There is nothing earth shattering but overall seems a bit better. My only complaints are the weaker vibrate motor and lack of microSD card support.
I had a chance to test the S21 Ultra against the S22 Ultra and found the S21 Ultra to have slightly better speakers, stronger vibration motor, slightly better battery life and it's nice that it comes with up to 16 GB RAM. It's easier to hold as well, but the screen aspect ratio is less practical in many cases. It also gets warmer than the S22 Ultra.
For everything that improves with these iterative upgrades, there are a few steps back. If you're happy with your Note20 Ultra or S21 Ultra, I'd say there's no rush to upgrade unless you get an amazing deal.
joemossjr said:
Sooo. I have had this phone from T-Mobile for the past few weeks and have a few hot takes on it.
For starters I wanted to return it almost 2 days in after figuring out about the performance this device had. But was promised an update and 2 weeks later it was delivered.
So these hot takes are going to be after the update.
1. So far almost no stutter I've found has been fixed. Home stutter, app stutter all still here.
2. WE SHOULD HAVE TO OPTIMIZE SH*T ON A 1300 DEVICE. The fact that some answers you get here are "did you follow the optimaztion guide?" I shouldn't have to touch anything! Do you think the average consumer is gonna go through the hoops of 3 factory resets, a firmware flash, and praying to whatever God to get sub par performance?
3. The camera lag is rediculous.
I went to AEW (wrestling show) and couldn't even pull my camera up up fast enough to get any good shots!. And not to mention the shutter lag waiting for the image to capture! Also 4k60 recording in a timely manner? Laughable. I have never had this many issues with a Samsung device in the first few weeks as I've had with this one.
4. Signal drops consistently. (Doesn't really bother me because I use wifi calling)
5. Battery has gotten better since the update so no issues there.
6. Snapchat lag in camera ui.
7. Ram management is a joke. Even with ram plus.
8. Display is beautiful but dims to high heaven in gaming.
9. Abysmal update times compared to exynos.
10. Zoom is awesome.
I'm sure there are more but geesh.
Adding a photo for AEW fans lol
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Not seeing any of the lag with shutter you talking about. With or without the flash and 4k 60fps video recording works fine too even in the dark. As for the Ram+ I got mine set at 8gb and I can open and run 12 apps without any problem whatsoever. Never had any problems with T-Mobile signal. Maybe you should try a fresh install? I havent really had any issues since day one other than battery life sucks. I didn't do a fresh install either. I just used Samsung Smartwatch to setup the phone exactly like my S20U which I traded for the Unlocked 512gb using a prepaid T-Mobile plan so no T-mobile software or bloat on here.
Rubby1025 said:
I think people need to accept that Android is essentially malware and was designed by a company to continuously extract as much information on you as possible behind the scenes. I would estimate at least 90% of all Android apps participate in this game to gain your info for profit. People wonder why phones are sluggish with all this activity happening in the background. This is the cost for all of us users to get an OS and application environment for free.
So the fact that each of us needs to fine tune, debloat, optimize, etc on any new phone to reign in the OS and apps to get acceptable performance is not something new. It really is a journey to research and get any phone working smoothly as each one of us has different use cases.
PS - my new S22 Ultra (SD/T-Mobile) is fast as lightning and I'm very happy with it.
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Sorry. No. This ain't it cheif. People make the same argument for TVs (that if they were to make "dummy" TVs without Android it would be a $5K set... um $5K TVs exist and still have the spyware). The gaslighting by manufacturers is real.
Also 2~5K sets then did indeed exist, and for the sake of argument I'm not gonna talk inflation cause it really didn't change /that/ much aside from all mfr's getting greedy since covid. 2010's "smart" TVs didn't exist and the "smart" features were only on more expensive sets, as well as being more useless than today.
I paid for the hardware. But it's a "license to use" argument is the same bull that the pro-copyright NES crowd uses... sheesh
Paul_Deemer said:
Not seeing any of the lag with shutter you talking about. With or without the flash and 4k 60fps video recording works fine too even in the dark. As for the Ram+ I got mine set at 8gb and I can open and run 12 apps without any problem whatsoever. Never had any problems with T-Mobile signal. Maybe you should try a fresh install? I havent really had any issues since day one other than battery life sucks. I didn't do a fresh install either. I just used Samsung Smartwatch to setup the phone exactly like my S20U which I traded for the Unlocked 512gb using a prepaid T-Mobile plan so no T-mobile software or bloat on here.
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Something is wrong if you're getting bad battery life. It's because you didn't do a fresh install, try factory resetting and it'll be way better.
S22 Ultra 5G US AT&T locked Snapdragon 512gb AVC8 flashed U1 firmware
Kris_b1104 said:
Something is wrong if you're getting bad battery life. It's because you didn't do a fresh install, try factory resetting and it'll be way better.
S22 Ultra 5G US AT&T locked Snapdragon 512gb AVC8 flashed U1 firmware
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Factory reset guarantees nothing. Best to find the root cause to avoid a recurrence. Since each load is unique to the user, unique issues can and do evolve.
Use factory reset for: major upgrades, if you used SmartSwitch (don't make the same mistake twice), malware or if a buggy 3rd party app that altered hidden user settings you can't undo.
blackhawk said:
Factory reset guarantees nothing. Best to find the root cause to avoid a recurrence. Since each load is unique to the user, unique issues can and do evolve.
Use factory reset for: major upgrades, if you used SmartSwitch (don't make the same mistake twice), malware or if a buggy 3rd party app that altered hidden user settings you can't undo.
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It's a last resort but if has to be done then that's what you gotta do. It's the endgame. If it don't work after that your screwed.
Paul_Deemer said:
It's a last resort but if has to be done then that's what you gotta do. It's the endgame. If it don't work after that your screwed.
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If you inadvertently add the app(s) or setting(s) that caused it, you just shot yourself in the foot, again.
Never use SmartSwitch if the first load went bad using it, do a clean load instead.
Tracking down the cause can be time consuming but it's a lesson learned and time saved in the future; a reload is very time consuming. I reserve it for primarily boot loops and persistent malware.
My current load has been saved from a factory reset a couple of times, still fast, stable and fulfilling its mission. It will be 2 yo this June.
Some those fixes seemed impossible at first but all were done within the confines of a stock Android without using adb edits, etc.
blackhawk said:
If you inadvertently add the app(s) or setting(s) that caused it, you just shot yourself in the foot, again.
Never use SmartSwitch if the first load went bad using it, do a clean load instead.
Tracking down the cause can be time consuming but it's a lesson learned and time saved in the future; a reload is very time consuming. I reserve it for primarily boot loops and persistent malware.
My current load has been saved from a factory reset a couple of times, still fast, stable and fulfilling its mission. It will be 2 yo this June.
Some those fixes seemed impossible at first but all were done within the confines of a stock Android without using adb edits, etc.
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Well I haven't had a single issue with mine even using smart switch but others heve. Guess I am just one of the lucky ones.
Paul_Deemer said:
Well I haven't had a single issue with mine even using smart switch but others heve. Guess I am just one of the lucky ones.
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That's a good thing
It's completely unpredictable. I've used SmartSwitch without issues. I don't trust it at all though... I remember Kies
It may have screwed up the load on my newest N10+, still troubleshooting it. It developed a... lag No big deal.
Almost all issues can be resolved by simply "playing" with it, Adroids wuv attention.