From what ive been reading, seems like the EVO 3D is a bit smoother since is has more accessible memory compared to the Sensation 4G. When we finally get root, will uninstalling all the bloatware crap free up space and thus give us a smoother experience? Or is it just the way Sense has been written for this device that makes it this way?
I understand the lag is extremely minor compared to the EVO 3D, but i wonder if removing the tmo bloatware (which i want to remove regardless) would aid the lag.
Desreil said:
From what ive been reading, seems like the EVO 3D is a bit smoother since is has more accessible memory compared to the Sensation 4G. When we finally get root, will uninstalling all the bloatware crap free up space and thus give us a smoother experience? Or is it just the way Sense has been written for this device that makes it this way?
I understand the lag is extremely minor compared to the EVO 3D, but i wonder if removing the tmo bloatware (which i want to remove regardless) would aid the lag.
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It's hard to say, but I can't imagine that they can't resolve some of the lag with a simple software update.
Yes, it will be a lot smoother. Same thing happened with MT4G: T-mo preloaded bunch or useless crap on it and MySense was crawling to a stop after few days. As soon as S-off was achieved and custom roms based of official rom started coming in, people immediately noticed increase in battery life, more stability and, most importantly, buttery smoothness of the phone.
Also, all the crap Tmobile put on the phone is running all the time! If you kill the processes they just restart right away.
sounds great. will be looking forward to rooting and removing these pesky tmo apps. I wonder if Sense itself plays a larger role in the whole memory hogging. i dont mind but that just give me more reason to rid of some of those useless apps.
Overall, I am happy with my phone. Use it mostly for e-mail, websurfing, various apps. Don't need to play around with settings, etc. It just works.
I am interested in possibly rooting, but frankly, I don't want to spend a lot of time on tweaks, loading ROMS, etc. I just want to use my phone.
If I root without loading a new rom, what are some of the advantages?
I know that I can remove some bloatware, but unless it significantly increases battery life, then it doesn't really matter to me. Will removing bloatware do anything significant to battery life?
I am already SIM unlocked (I called AT&T, and they gave me the code to unlock).
Any other advantages?
I have rooted my wife's NOOK with CM7, and while I like it, there are issues like the Sleep of Death (SOD), occasional lag, etc., that I really don't want to deal with on my phone. I need it to work without any glitches, or constant fiddling.
My guess is I should probably stay unrooted, but wanted to see if anyone can educate me whether there are any benefits in my situation.
Thanks!
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Overall, I am happy with my phone. Use it mostly for e-mail, websurfing, various apps. Don't need to play around with settings, etc. It just works.
I am interested in possibly rooting, but frankly, I don't want to spend a lot of time on tweaks, loading ROMS, etc. I just want to use my phone.
If I root without loading a new rom, what are some of the advantages?
I know that I can remove some bloatware, but unless it significantly increases battery life, then it doesn't really matter to me. Will removing bloatware do anything significant to battery life?
I am already SIM unlocked (I called AT&T, and they gave me the code to unlock).
Any other advantages?
I have rooted my wife's NOOK with CM7, and while I like it, there are issues like the Sleep of Death (SOD), occasional lag, etc., that I really don't want to deal with on my phone. I need it to work without any glitches, or constant fiddling.
My guess is I should probably stay unrooted, but wanted to see if anyone can educate me whether there are any benefits in my situation.
Thanks!
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Let's start with the basics, please search before posting. The advantages of rooting and disadvantages are well documented in numerous threads. It sounds like to me your phone is what you want/need it to be so why change it? If you are explicitly telling me you don't want to spend time flashing ROMs and tweaking the Inspire then I'm telling you its in your best interest not root.
Simply put, every custom ROM on here has its issues. No ROM is perfect, certain things work while others don't and its on you to figure out what you can or cannot live with. The only way to do that is by testing ROMs which brings me back to your statement that you don't want to spend time flashing ROMs and all that stuff..if you don't want to spend time doing this, rooting is not your journey.
Battery life is subjective, overall yes, most rooters see an increase in battery life, how much is subjective. I get 28 hours on one charge while others get 6. The difference? The user and what they do with the phone. My opinion for you is that don't root, you sound content with everything the inspire is.
Devil's advocate though, your inspire could be soo much more.
if you dont know what you want root for, then you dont need to root
if you want simple, do not root. It is not an easier path to walk on. It has its bumps and glitches. Sometimes you have a bad flash or download and have to redo it, or youll forget to back up something and now your sms messages are gone. If you arent ready to dig deeper into the phone and learn and also make it do more than stay as it is, no shame in that. Hes right, if you arent SURE you need to root than you shouldnt because the gains wont be noticed. I think most of us have had an almost brick experience at some point in time, be mentally prepared lol
once i had my phone run good all night, once i got to work it just died. was a bad flash and it didnt show its ugly head till the next day so i had to wait till i got home to fix it properly. lol gave me twitches not having my phone lol
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I am interested in possibly rooting, but frankly, I don't want to spend a lot of time on tweaks, loading ROMS, etc. I just want to use my phone.
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While I agree with the posts made here already that suggest rooting may not be for you, there are a couple significant advantages which you may want to consider.
Probably the first biggest advantage from my point of view is to remove the 'spyware' (Carrier IQ) present on most factory ROMs. That's HUGE for me. I have enough government intrusion into my life, I don't need any more. Another element is that - at least on my ROM (Virtuous Unity or Affinity) that they have done an excellent job of blocking ad intrusions.
There are also some applications which require root access, though most of them are system utilities (like Titanium Backup) which you wouldn't be using if you don't intend to experiment with different ROMs.
If I'm not mistaken, there's a path to go back to the OEM (factory) ROM, however you will need to be cautious with how you back up and restore the data you need. However it's something to consider if you felt like you wanted to kick the tires while still being able to go back to stock.
As with anything else in life, there are pros and cons. At this point most ROMs are fairly stable for the Inspire, so you probably won't be at a disadvantage, but if the one thing you need on the one ROM you like is the one thing that doesn't work and it's the one thing you can't live without, then don't do it. Read the documentation for each ROM and you'll know what to do.
I rooted my wife's Inspire so that I could get rid of unwanted AT&T and HTC apps and get rid of Carrier IQ.
The result has been better battery life and no prompts/notifications for updates to apps that were installed as system apps but that I have removed. I believe that the phone runs smoother without the stuff that was running in the background.
She really does not see any difference (except the battery life) in her everyday use.
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I rooted my wife's Inspire so that I could get rid of unwanted AT&T and HTC apps and get rid of Carrier IQ.
The result has been better battery life and no prompts/notifications for updates to apps that were installed as system apps but that I have removed. I believe that the phone runs smoother without the stuff that was running in the background.
She really does not see any difference (except the battery life) in her everyday use.
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Did you install a different ROM, or just keep the stock (except for the rooted part) and delete the bloatware? How much of a difference did it make in the battery life?
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if you dont know what you want root for, then you dont need to root
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Agreed here. Rooting requires learning more in depth capabilities about your phone. If you are content with the status quo, why complicate?
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Did you install a different ROM, or just keep the stock (except for the rooted part) and delete the bloatware? How much of a difference did it make in the battery life?
Thanks!
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No change in ROM. Battery usually has better than 50% at night when she goes to bed. She unplugs at 5 AM and usually it's back on the charger around 10 PM. Before it was at about 30% most nights.
I also believe that it uses less background data.
Root that ***** n throw a couple ROMs on there to play with. Ever since I've roted my phone a while ago I can't stop playing with new ROMs as they cone out.
Forgive me if I'm wrong but I thought that thisbphone never had carrier iq
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Well, I went against the good advice offered here and rooted.
I used the Ace Hack Kit, with Ubuntu, which worked perfectly as expected.
I have not installed any ROM's, as I think I will just try to remove any bloatware, etc to see if the phone battery life increases.
Any suggestions as to what to remove (I am trying a search as we speak)?
Thanks!
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Well, I went against the good advice offered here and rooted.
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Generally, I'd suggest removing anything that's carrier-specific. Those apps tend to be better for them than they are for you. To do so, I'd recommend a couple utilities that will help you in your experimentation.
1) Titanium Backup. Good for removing bloatware, when you decide what it is you don't need or want.
2) ROM Manager / Clockwork. Great for downloading ROMs and managing backups from the Android interface.
Part of what might be draining your batter is Carrier IQ, but that's not something easily dug out. You'd do better to just install a ROM that's had it expertly removed. I'd suggest either Virtuous Unity or Virtuous Affinity.
The Inspire was not released w/CIQ.
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The Inspire was not released w/CIQ.
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Better safe than sorry, I suppose.
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Sigh. All was well with my phone, and I had taken the case off to clean it. I was in the back yard with the phone, and boom, I dropped it on the patio. Landed face down and screen cracked.
I guess I'll be looking for a new phone now.
Thanks for all of your help!
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Overall, I am happy with my phone. Use it mostly for e-mail, websurfing, various apps. Don't need to play around with settings, etc. It just works.
I am interested in possibly rooting, but frankly, I don't want to spend a lot of time on tweaks, loading ROMS, etc. I just want to use my phone.
If I root without loading a new rom, what are some of the advantages?
I know that I can remove some bloatware, but unless it significantly increases battery life, then it doesn't really matter to me. Will removing bloatware do anything significant to battery life?
I am already SIM unlocked (I called AT&T, and they gave me the code to unlock).
Any other advantages?
I have rooted my wife's NOOK with CM7, and while I like it, there are issues like the Sleep of Death (SOD), occasional lag, etc., that I really don't want to deal with on my phone. I need it to work without any glitches, or constant fiddling.
My guess is I should probably stay unrooted, but wanted to see if anyone can educate me whether there are any benefits in my situation.
Thanks!
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Removing bloat is advantageous to battery life, but the best feature IMO is AdFree Android. It , which removes ALL ads, in the browser or in the apps. It makes browsing and apps faster and cleaner.
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Sigh. All was well with my phone, and I had taken the case off to clean it. I was in the back yard with the phone, and boom, I dropped it on the patio. Landed face down and screen cracked.
I guess I'll be looking for a new phone now.
Thanks for all of your help!
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just go on craigs list and find a local repair shop. the same thign happened to me, $100 and she's brand new again
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Removing bloat is advantageous to battery life, but the best feature IMO is AdFree Android. It , which removes ALL ads, in the browser or in the apps. It makes browsing and apps faster and cleaner.
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No, the best feature is the fact you get full control of the device you purchased, anything else is secondary.
Root if for no other reason than to install CWM and keep up to date nandroid backups of your oem rom. It's always nice to have a quick solution in case something bad ever happens.
Plus, a lot of cool apps require root access.
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What exactly is it and where can I get it? Checked play store and nothing... thanks in advance.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
V6 is a pretty impressive collection of mods and tweaks. I tried it, didn't like it, removed it. In all honestly it bogged down my phone immediately after installing.
Thanks for the link... seems like something pretty good. Although I have modded, hacked, and tweaked my phone and had almost similar experience with my PSP, running scripts always makes me nervous... maybe I'll just wait til I get up enough nerve to do it just like rooting and installing custom ROMs. Always ends up being way easier than I thought by the time I actually do it!
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Lol if i could install and setup v6 then ANYONE can! It actually has a very well put together setup UI. It walks you through everything step by step and you get to choose what mods you want to activate. A lot of people here have great experiences with that tweak, my phone just didn't like it.
Also, check out wolfscript. Its a much smaller package but i found it quite effective. I flashed it and my phone has received a note worthy boost in performance
So I found wolfscript and dl'd the new version... its been about an hour and yes it does seem to have made my G2x snappier
I might just leave this phone the way it is now if it ever goes back to my wife instead of flashing it back to stock/rooted!
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ok.... now the question is what exactly is 'Seeder entropy generator' (which came with wolfscript) and how does it reduce lag if wolfscript already does?
thanks again to all!!!
Honestly...couldn't tell ya. Its meant to help those who use their phones to play games defeat lag. I don't use it often. Only feature that i actively use is the "boost" or "adrenaline" feature which merely helps clear up some ram by killing unnecessary background apps.
To use boost open terminal emulator and enter 'su' to grant super user permissions and then enter 'boost.'
As a flashaholic of sorts, I find that nothing feels better than a clean ROM install. It is very noticeable to me going from a ROM I've used for a week or two to wiping everything and doing a fresh install of the same, or different, ROM. Even after I restore all my backed up apps and everything I can tell a noticeable difference in performance and responsiveness. With this in mind I have two questions... Why does this happen? And what does everyone do to avoid this sluggishness?
me, i never wipe, and im known for dirty flashing and not wiping. ive never ever wiped my nexus 5, since day one. yet, i bet you that i have the fastest nexus 5 around. i do keep my phone up on a daily manor. im constantly cleaning it of "junk". oh, and i reboot at least once daily. the reboot keeps it from corrupting files.
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me, i never wipe, and im known for dirty flashing and not wiping. ive never ever wiped my nexus 5, since day one. yet, i bet you that i have the fastest nexus 5 around. i do keep my phone up on a daily manor. im constantly cleaning it of "junk". oh, and i reboot at least once daily. the reboot keeps it from corrupting files.
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I curious if you would still notice a difference if you did a fresh install. I'm not saying my device gets horribly slow by any means because I only realize it after I do a clean flash. What do you use to get rid of junk?
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I curious if you would still notice a difference if you did a fresh install. I'm not saying my device gets horribly slow by any means because I only realize it after I do a clean flash. What do you use to get rid of junk?
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a root file explorer, but ive been with android since the very beginning and generally learned to keep junk away from my phones/tablets, junk apps as well. and no, a fresh install isnt any different, unless youre the type of person that accumulates junk.
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a root file explorer, but ive been with android since the very beginning and generally learned to keep junk away from my phones/tablets, junk apps as well. and no, a fresh install isnt any different, unless youre the type of person that accumulates junk.
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I don't have any junk apps. I just use your standard issue ones. I don't have any games or anything either, only what I need. I don't quite understand what you consider "junk" that you'd be removing via a file explorer.
For speed I just give my N5 some LSD!
Its just the nature of android or a PC. The more files, apps, and stuff you have the slower it gets. More apps also mean more ram and more things running in the background.
How I deal with it? I flash a custom kernel and clean my cache, files, apps, and stuff I don't use, every once in awhile. Also the more stuff you have syncing effects performance also.
But don't get too caught up on making your nexus 5 fast and just enjoy it. Because it will become an obsession.
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I haven't touched a Samsung device since the galaxy s1 i9000 and have stuck to nexus phones since that time.
I thought I would give Samsung another blast this year and see if they have redeemed their selves over the years in regards to the amount of animation stutter and input lag since they claimed to have streamlined TW and have started using their own processors to make everything work in harmony etc.
The phone itself is really really great and I quite like it but I again am still getting animation stutter all over the place.
Scrolling in play store is horrible. The simple tasks of pressing between the tabs in the dialer is the worst out of them all them and really has terrible animation and most apps stutter like mad where my old nexus 5 was nice and smooth which I can only blame TW for. Even the keyboard goes nuts if you try to look through the emojis. There's no excuse for this in this day and age with what this phone is packing.
Is it just my device or is anyone else getting a lot of stutter etc on their device?
Is their anything that can be done to solve the issue other than swap the phone
Ta
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zolah said:
The phone itself is really really great and I quite like it but I again am still getting animation stutter all over the place.
Scrolling in play store is horrible. The simple tasks of pressing between the tabs in the dialer is the worst out of them all them and really has terrible animation and most apps stutter like mad where my old nexus 5 was nice and smooth which I can only blame TW for. Even the keyboard goes nuts if you try to look through the emojis. There's no excuse for this in this day and age with what this phone is packing.
Is it just my device or is anyone else getting a lot of stutter etc on their device?
Is their anything that can be done to solve the issue other than swap the phone
Ta
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5.1 kinda made this issue a lot worse! I set animation in dev option to 0.5x and it helps a little!
You can try a custom ROM. You often get a much better performance with it. Or try to root and uninstall bloatware. Hope this helps.
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You can try a custom ROM. You often get a much better performance with it. Or try to root and uninstall bloatware. Hope this helps.
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Any links to guides on this. I used Odin back in the day a lot to flash custom ROMs but that's going back a long time.
Cheers
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/general/howto-flash-g92xf-t-tripping-knox-t3158606/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...xtrestolite-deodexed-mod-edition-1-0-t3094423
1. Use the first link if you want to keep your warranty safe.
2 A nice, clean, fast ROM you can use (it's the one i'm currently using) also, I would like to give back-to-n0t3 a shot soon.
Note 5 user here. Same issues on this device It's really disappointing Scrolling lag is so much higher than on my OPO.
I have no lag at all on mine running 5.1.1 - I'm usually pretty sensitive to it!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/general/howto-flash-g92xf-t-tripping-knox-t3158606/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...xtrestolite-deodexed-mod-edition-1-0-t3094423
1. Use the first link if you want to keep your warranty safe.
2 A nice, clean, fast ROM you can use (it's the one i'm currently using) also, I would like to give back-to-n0t3 a shot soon.
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Please don't withhold all information. First link's method only works on S6 variants G92XF/T. It does not work on other variants and if attempted will cause a soft brick. For other variants of S6 on 5.1.1 there is no way to root or install custom kernels without tripping Knox.
On the subject of lag, proper usage of the phone and knowing how to free up RAM can reduce lag on your phone. Examples include clearing recent activities, using Smart Manager to "clean up" background activities and rebooting the phone every few days. With root you can use more efficient methods like Titanium Backup to freeze apps and Greenify to kill background processes. Don't just sit there complaining about lag this and lag that, go and read up on how to free up RAM on your phone and reduce lag on it.