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Any who, this is my second android phone and I'm so happy with my inspire, I actually am not that inspired to flash any roms. I mean this in no disrespect to the developers here, as they are doing awesome work, I'm just very content. Sure I'm curious to flash, but I don't feel the need to at all. Htc has done such a great job with sense and the phone is just so smooth! It's pretty damn fast out of the box. I love the email app and Internet. The browser is fast and the entire sense GUI is quite intuitive. I guess with my captivate, I was never quite happy so I needed to flash often at a glimmer of hope of a decent device.
Anyone else feel the same?
I will eventually flash. I will...but I'm in no rush, at all.
exactly I never was happy with captivate tried flashing different things but it really doesnt change much except for theme removing bloat and some lag fixes but all in all it was still very laggy no matter what. inspire looks great out of the box and i dont feel the need to change roms all the i probaly will just to check em out and check out the speed increases
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exactly I never was happy with captivate tried flashing different things but it really doesnt change much except for theme removing bloat and some lag fixes but all in all it was still very laggy no matter what. inspire looks great out of the box and i dont feel the need to change roms all the i probaly will just to check em out and check out the speed increases
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I don't side load apps. I got tethering to work with apn settings. Don't really see a need for OCing. It's cool, but don't see the need. There doesn't seem to really be much on android that pushes the CPU. One of my arguments for not getting the dual core atrix. If the screen was big like a tablet, maybe. There is just a lack of resource intense apps on android.... At least to rationalize the loss in battery life. The screen on the inspire slides from screen to screen as fast as my finger glides. The browser scrolls fast as well. I do appreciate some of the optimizations that devs have put into their roms. The roms look great...I just can't believe I'm happy with stock. I was really gearing up for a flash fest.
Well it really depends on what you want. If you flash a ROM say like Android Revolution. Yes it will remove bloat ware, and enable tethering. But you can also overclock the cpu, enable upload (which effects your download). It is more about having control over your phone then changing how it looks or feels unless you go with CM7 or the like. I get about 10 more hours of battery usage. I can unplug my phone at 7 in the morning use it heavily throughout the day and go to bed at 11 or 12 and still have about 40% left on the battery. To give you an idea how heavy my usage is, I went through 1gb of data in three days.
Ditto.... I have no reason to flash....everything works the way I want it to, and excellently at that.....
Via the XDA app for the HTC Inspire
Ya I don't have a desire to flash a custom rom either.
I felt I had to when using the Captivate since the stock rom was so bad. But I feel the Inspire's ROM is great just the way it is.
I used to jailbreak my iPhones for years, but finally got bored with doing it.
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Well it really depends on what you want. If you flash a ROM say like Android Revolution. Yes it will remove bloat ware, and enable tethering. But you can also overclock the cpu, enable upload (which effects your download). It is more about having control over your phone then changing how it looks or feels unless you go with CM7 or the like. I get about 10 more hours of battery usage. I can unplug my phone at 7 in the morning use it heavily throughout the day and go to bed at 11 or 12 and still have about 40% left on the battery. To give you an idea how heavy my usage is, I went through 1gb of data in three days.
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Yeah, upload speed, memory optimizations, and prolonged battery life would be my only reasons for flashing. I don't want to lose anything from the current sense ui. I still don't quite understand the goldcard concept.
Anyway, this is a rare phone that is good right out of the box.
Corriewf said:
Yeah, upload speed, memory optimizations, and prolonged battery life would be my only reasons for flashing. I don't want to lose anything from the current sense ui. I still don't quite understand the goldcard concept.
Anyway, this is a rare phone that is good right out of the box.
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I felt the same way all of you did about how great the phone is out of the box. But I needed to have it work as a hot spot and the upload is so slow out of the box because of AT&T. After flashing (now using CoreDroid) I have HUSPA back and my phone is so much faster. What I like about this ROM is it is very close to stock but no bloatware and he made HTC sense look even better (which is hard to do).
As to the goldcard thing, there is a video on Youtube that walks you through step by step making it very easy for anyone.
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After flashing (now using CoreDroid) I have HUSPA back and my phone is so much faster. What I like about this ROM is it is very close to stock but no bloatware and he made HTC sense look even better (which is hard to do).
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Hmm....intriguing
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alwayslearning said:
I felt the same way all of you did about how great the phone is out of the box. But I needed to have it work as a hot spot and the upload is so slow out of the box because of AT&T. After flashing (now using CoreDroid) I have HUSPA back and my phone is so much faster. What I like about this ROM is it is very close to stock but no bloatware and he made HTC sense look even better (which is hard to do).
As to the goldcard thing, there is a video on Youtube that walks you through step by step making it very easy for anyone.
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I want to enable those upload speeds but when I did that on my captivates, the battery went to utter crap. I think it was due to using an European radio..how has battery been with it enabled?
My battery lasts any where from around 20 to 30 hours with heavy to moderate use with uploading enabled. Also just like leedroid android revolution is pretty much stock but faster better battery life and uploading enabled
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My reasons to flash :
1 ) I like tidy. All that crap on the stock ROM annoys me.
2 ) APN hack to enable tether isn't tidy.
3 ) Speed. Revolution ROM is faster than stock, noticeably so.
4 ) Fixes. I have more faith in the XDA devs than I do in AT&T to fix problems
5 ) Battery. I'm getting great battery life on Revolution ROM, but I'm not a heavy user so stock would have been suitable for me here but I suspect *most* XDA peeps would fair better on a non-AT&T ROM.
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I want to enable those upload speeds but when I did that on my captivates, the battery went to utter crap. I think it was due to using an European radio..how has battery been with it enabled?
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I think the battery out of the box on this phone is the worse I have ever seen. I have a Desire (not HD) that I bought unlocked and it works on AT&T (got one for my wife as well) it has a BIGGER battery in it with a smaller screen that battery last forever.
In our beloved inspire (which I think is a great phone) for whatever reason they have put this very small battery in it and I could not get 6 hours out of it with my usage from the stock ROM.
On the custom ROM I am using I think battery use is still an issue but at least I can get a whole day out of it. It has improved and I know the Dev's will make it even better.
edit: the kernel and radio you use will also play an important role in battery life
Yeah, I was like that up until I finished the video tutorial on Gold Cards jumping from the captivate as well, that thing was flashing like...every three days. It was absurd. It was awesome, but going from a build where I liked everything but the GPS didn't work was super depressing. Gambling is fun and all, but not when some of your phone's core functionality is at stake :'( well I guess that's just a risk with flashing in general... but I just feel like with the captivate it was a necessity... and a risk. Here on the other hand, you wipe, wipe, and away!
P.S.
Does anyone who used to own a captivate still get a reaction to Galaxy S/Captivate news? I got sort of excited when I was reading engadget and I saw the Captivate 2.2 update and the Galaxy S Gingerbread leak. Then I remembered I have the ability to flash CM7.
Im trying to find a reason besides battery to flash..the phone is quick, Sense is really good and replaces a lot the widgets I already had. Im tempted just for the sake of doing it more than for a need
I never flash.... I was stock on my N1 and I will remain so on my Inspire.
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I'll more than likely root and flash Revolution in the next couple weeks...but I'm still lost to all the jargon in the Development section haha
I'm going to wait for the best one-click and any kinks to be worked out before I pull the trigger though
It took going through the app drawer with my 115 apps plus the AT&T stuff lagging all the way for me to think, "This phone needs Cyanogen." Haven't looked back, although I do want to flash one of the Sense Roms floating around. Sense was pretty amazing.
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mudknot2005 said:
My battery lasts any where from around 20 to 30 hours with heavy to moderate use with uploading enabled. Also just like leedroid android revolution is pretty much stock but faster better battery life and uploading enabled
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RacerX10 said:
My reasons to flash :
1 ) I like tidy. All that crap on the stock ROM annoys me.
2 ) APN hack to enable tether isn't tidy.
3 ) Speed. Revolution ROM is faster than stock, noticeably so.
4 ) Fixes. I have more faith in the XDA devs than I do in AT&T to fix problems
5 ) Battery. I'm getting great battery life on Revolution ROM, but I'm not a heavy user so stock would have been suitable for me here but I suspect *most* XDA peeps would fair better on a non-AT&T ROM.
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Hmm, hearing this I'd starting to convince me to flash.....decisions, decisions.....
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I would really love to flash but coming from the Cappy, my first android phone. Rooting this phone seems to be really confusing. The one click looks promising but there are some problems with it, that I hope Buddy fixes soon. The Attn1 method lost me. I have never been able to use adb on my computer for some reason. I have all the drivers installed and the androidsdk but for some reason I can never figure out the how to start to connect to my phone in the command window. I always get an error.
man.. ive never felt so cro-magnon.. this shouldnt be giving me problems but with all the possibilities to root this.. Im a bit confused as far as which method is going to work 100%
If performed correctly, all methods will work 100%. Bubby's is by far the easiest imo. It tells you exactly what to do, step by step. Not quite as simple as one-click, but pretty dang close.
If you read the 2000+ replies to his post, a bunch of us have, but I know it's hard to sift through. I had a few starts and stops, but I think the real trick is ending up with a good gold card. Once it was working, it went smooth.
yeah i started to just about give up but then started over from scratch.. made sure i had all the ducks lined up and slowed down. It worked great this time around.. I suppose now ill have to flash a rom. id just assume take the bloatware off first
Well if you flash a rom that has bloatware removed then you're killing two birds with one stone.
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Well if you flash a rom that has bloatware removed then you're killing two birds with one stone.
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This is true. I've also found that some ROMs bring back the ones I've uninstalled. I would recommend using titanium backup to get rid of the useless ones. Be careful though. Some are needed for the system to run correctly.
my benchmark scores went down after install the other roms... the optimized stock rom and the revolution though the revolution one was a bit faster. might try aginger bread rom
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my benchmark scores went down after install the other roms... the optimized stock rom and the revolution though the revolution one was a bit faster. might try aginger bread rom
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I got 2165 using LeeDrOiD oc'd to a tad over 1574mHZ.
I just used it a couple of hours ago. It was successful. The only problems encountered were my own mistakes.
sprhr0 said:
man.. ive never felt so cro-magnon.. this shouldnt be giving me problems but with all the possibilities to root this.. Im a bit confused as far as which method is going to work 100%
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I felt the same way. I was terrified I was gonna brick my phone, but the process was very easy and straightforward. The most "difficult" part was the goldcard, but even that was easy with the latest application pack he has, it has an automatic goldcard maker in there, very easy to use. After that, it's just a matter of following directions (ie, mostly just pushing a button on your keyboard when told to and then entering a few commands on your phone, but all of it is written down and verrrry easy to do).
I very very very highly recommend bubby's root method.
It was SO good, in fact, that he's got a donation coming his way when payday comes. I honestly never expected it all to be THAT easy. I figured "oh hell, I'm gonna have all kinds of problems and I'm gonna look like the world's biggest idiot when I have to beg for help on the forums", but I had no problems whatsoever! Ez-Pz. Do it already!! If you found it as easy as I did, you might want to consider a donation too. Bubby is a young guy and we need to keep him interested and making great stuff like this in the future.
Oh, and everything works precisely as it did before too. No issues with calls, signal, GPS, sound, sync, battery, or any software issues whatsoever.
Thank you so much! I am seriously worried about it and had no clue if it worked. And reading your comment encouraged me. Heck I even made an account just to reply to this. Thanks so much for that needed inspiration
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...The only problems encountered were my own mistakes.
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^^This^^
Bubbys' one touch is great. Just follow the instructions and have patience.
First time rooter here. I used bubby's root method, watched the video like 6 times, read as much on these forums as possible, and followed the instructions exactly. I had 0 problems. I would highly recommend it.
Just remember, RTFM.
Hello all,
Should I still be following this video in order to root my phone using Bubby's latest RC2 release?
ATX350 said:
Hello all,
Should I still be following this video in order to root my phone using Bubby's latest RC2 release?
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Yes. That video was the missing piece of the puzzle for me. If you do what zonderion does in that video, just like he does it, you will root your phone without issue.
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^Thank you. Trying now. I'm a android virgin so a bit nervous to say the least. I'll update later with my results.
I was a first time user of Bubby's. I had one problem when entering commands in the terminal emulator.
I had a half rooted phone with no sound
I started back over (this time not quick formatting the sd card, and formatting the sd card while in the phone instead of a card reader)
Bingo like a charm. I also rooted my buddies inspire about an hour ago using the same method and worked fine first try.
I did it last night without issue though I am not sure why I did. It says there is a bloatware removal option but I never came across one. My only reason for the root is to get rid off all the junk I never touch. I'd like a stock Gingerbread ROM with Sense though. Now I am searching for an App or method to get rid of the bloatware.
Sense did a great job of copying everything back to the phone. I didn't lose anything at all! At least I think it is Sense that did that.
I flashed the cm7 ROM using rom manager. Got rid of all the bloatware. Miui looks like a nice gingerbread rom, I haven't taken the time to try it yet.
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rarefc3s said:
I did it last night without issue though I am not sure why I did. It says there is a bloatware removal option but I never came across one. My only reason for the root is to get rid off all the junk I never touch. I'd like a stock Gingerbread ROM with Sense though. Now I am searching for an App or method to get rid of the bloatware.
Sense did a great job of copying everything back to the phone. I didn't lose anything at all! At least I think it is Sense that did that.
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Titanium backup will remove bloat. It's worth every penny. If you get the paid version, you can opt to just "freeze" it, meaning it becomes invisible to the system (won't load). It will still occupy physical storage space on your internal storage, but can be readily "unfrozen", (restored).
Optionally, you can fully remove it, which will fully remove all traces of it, freeing up your internal storage.
Yet another way, would be to first do a backup of the bloat, which will be on your "external" larger SD card, and then after that go back and fully "uninstall" it, and it will accomplish both: restore-able, yet not auto-loading into memory, and not taking up internal physical storage space.
All within titanium backup. Five bucks well-spent.
In regards to a stock gingerbread sense Rom, which also is bloat free, Inspired Ace 1.0, which is what I'm running, meets those conditions exactly. Highly recommended.
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Hi guys, I was just wondering if there is any chance that this phone could compete with the Thunderbolt because of the lack of RAM? It seems so laggy sometimes compared to my friends Bolt. There are so many things to like about this phone but multi-tasking can be painful sometimes. Today in Chicago his Bolt was getting 30 MB download and I was getting around 20. What is causing such a big difference? Can rooting make that big of a difference? How much more RAM are you guys seeing after debloat? I don't know much about Samsung phones but I need to get the scoop so I can make a well informed decision. Thanks guys
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To my understanding, RAM is RAM. There is no gaining any by deleting bloatware. You're just gaining system storage(app space) by deleting bloatware. But whatever RAM your phone came with, is what you have. For instance, let's use your PC as an example. If you want to install a new OS on your PC and it requires more memory, you're going to have to go and buy another memory board if you have a second slot that allows you to add more memory. Once you do that, then things will run faster and you can do more multi-tasking . But just removing apps and files off of your PC will not accomplish this by itself. So yes, more RAM can make a difference. Try rooting and apply the Voodoo lag-fix because this helps tremendously. Samsung does something different with Android on their phones, to my understanding, which makes the phone lag very bad. The Voodoo lag-fix changes the file system from RFS to EXT4, thus speeding things up the way it should have been out of the box. Go to the development section and read up on it some. If it sounds good and you're not afraid of the procedures (which are explained with step by step directions and pictures to make it very easy), then you should give it a try and see how it works out for you. Hope this helps.
BTW, this will not help with your internet download and upload speeds. That's dealing with something different.
Came from a bolt. Removed touchwiz...no lag. Seems just as speedy as the bolt. Download speeds are about the same also. The only thing i miss is the dev support.
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To my understanding, RAM is RAM. There is no gaining any by deleting bloatware. You're just gaining system storage(app space) by deleting bloatware. But whatever RAM your phone came with, is what you have. For instance, let's use your PC as an example. If you want to install a new OS on your PC and it requires more memory, you're going to have to go and buy another memory board if you have a second slot that allows you to add more memory. Once you do that, then things will run faster and you can do more multi-tasking . But just removing apps and files off of your PC will not accomplish this by itself. So yes, more RAM can make a difference. Try rooting and apply the Voodoo lag-fix because this helps tremendously. Samsung does something different with Android on their phones, to my understanding, which makes the phone lag very bad. The Voodoo lag-fix changes the file system from RFS to EXT4, thus speeding things up the way it should have been out of the box. Go to the development section and read up on it some. If it sounds good and you're not afraid of the procedures (which are explained with step by step directions and pictures to make it very easy), then you should give it a try and see how it works out for you. Hope this helps.
BTW, this will not help with your internet download and upload speeds. That's dealing with something different.
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Thanks for the response. Thought some of that bloatware was using up system memory running in the background. I have read about the lagfix but I don't really understand what it actually does, well I should say I don't understand how changing the file system helps, but I guess that's why I'm not a developer. I'm not afraid to root as I've had the OG and Thunderbolt and rooted both of them. I only have few days to make a decision but I am missing the ability to surf and talk on 3G as well as 4G. Grrr why does Verizon do this!
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Yea this is a big deal for me also. I guess I won't be happy until the Targa comes out.
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suzook said:
Came from a bolt. Removed touchwiz...no lag. Seems just as speedy as the bolt. Download speeds are about the same also. The only thing i miss is the dev support.
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Exactly how I feel as well. Don't miss the Thunderbolt at all...
lag is still there when you multi-task... i can play words with friends, play music in the background and browse (sites like espn,pocketnow,techcrunch) with flash set to always on and using desktop view with the Tbolt and no lag! This is using stock browser, Miren, Xscope or Dolphin.. I cant do this with the Charge unless I use Opera Mobile. The thing that gets me is how my Epic on RFS file system can handle it and the Charge cant? it has the same processor and RAM... My guess is poor RAM management or maybe the new Touchwiz base that it uses..
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Came from a bolt. Removed touchwiz...no lag. Seems just as speedy as the bolt. Download speeds are about the same also. The only thing i miss is the dev support.
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Same here. We already have kernals and whatnot so were getting there. A few more weeks and we will be in the game
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Yikes, I feel terrible for asking questions at such a basic level, but despite my tries, I haven't found an answer on the forums. If I missed anything obvious, please do point it out!
I've got a fairly new Samsung Infuse from AT&T, and I've been trying my hand at customization for a fair bit - graphic design is, in the end, the one thing I can say I'm actually good at. But between launchers, widgets and icon packs, there's only so much you can do, and the device does feel rather sluggish. At 109 apps, opening the app drawer takes up to 20 seconds, which is far from ideal.
I've been reading into custom ROMs and their possibilities, but I'm not entirely sure I understand their functionality and how to install one, so I'm hesitant to use one. Could anyone point me to some more information regarding this?
For the record; the device is rooted, and I'd like to think I know my way around a PC.
Here ya go bro.....
Maybe this will help...read carefully..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1293751
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verticae said:
Yikes, I feel terrible for asking questions at such a basic level, but despite my tries, I haven't found an answer on the forums. If I missed anything obvious, please do point it out!
I've got a fairly new Samsung Infuse from AT&T, and I've been trying my hand at customization for a fair bit - graphic design is, in the end, the one thing I can say I'm actually good at. But between launchers, widgets and icon packs, there's only so much you can do, and the device does feel rather sluggish. At 109 apps, opening the app drawer takes up to 20 seconds, which is far from ideal.
I've been reading into custom ROMs and their possibilities, but I'm not entirely sure I understand their functionality and how to install one, so I'm hesitant to use one. Could anyone point me to some more information regarding this?
For the record; the device is rooted, and I'd like to think I know my way around a PC.
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Welcome. Know that you have a decent phone with a gorgeous display.
Pick a thread and start reading.
Look around the themes and custom designs.
Read my post in the q,a section to get an idea if you wanted to were interested in flashing
20 seconds sounds ridiculous ._.
custom ROM's are fast, much faster than the stock one thanks to their being optimized. whilst i'm running on MIUI right now cause i got bored, i personally recommend the latest build of CM7 with the thunderbolt tweaks, definitely the fastest setup right now.
since you're already rooted, that makes things easier. you can simply hop onto the market, download ROM manager, load it up and flash CWM and you'll be ready to flash a different rom. just download the zip, copy it onto your phones internal memory, reboot, and follow the threads instructions (typically just wipe data/cache and then select the zip you want to install).
Thank you all for your posts!
Your links have cleared up a lot of things, and I'm currently getting ready to flash the latest CM7. I'll look into the thunderbolt tweaks as well, it looks rather interesting. Once again, thank you.
In my experience the stock rom is pretty snappy. I tried infused a long time ago with its voodoo file system and it was noticeably slower. Now I'm runnning miui and its damn quick. I just hope I can get this garbled font problem resolved.
Install miui and you'll understand why you would want to root. Alot of these roms are pretty close to stock aand overhyped but miui is a total rework and full of awesome.
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Hello everyone!
So, as most of you know; well actually all of you know that I'm a "noob" (kinda funny because I'm super passionate about riding mortorcycles; and in that scene we use a similar term for novice riders; "squids" is what we call them) but I stumbled upon something; Now I know a lot you veterans guys are gonna know this but this is for other noobs out there like me, I only say this because I'm baffled that this scene can be just as discouraging as the riding scene; My phone was being difficult, super laggy, super glitchy, my music app was cutting in and out, etc; I downloaded team acids member dsexton702's adrenaline mod; (of course I made a back up, I really didn't like that lesson haha) Right before I was about to restore it, I thought to myself; "how many apps do I have granted on my phone that controls overclocking?" I counted on my fingers, 1; the rom I'm running comes w/a bland overclock that I enabled, 2: I downloaded "android overclock by jrummy" and enabled that, 3: I downloaded rom toolbox pro by jrummy, enabled that as well 4; I downloaded the semaphore manager and yes enabled that as well, yes yes I know, I'm foolish but I'm not done yet LOL, Last but not least I downloaded "setcpu" by Michael Huang. And you all know... yes I enabled it. So I thought to myself which one do I wanna keep, "setcpu" is what i'm currently trying out. I uninstalled each one, well I actually kept "rom toolbox pro" because its filled with awesome custom UI downloads; I just make sure I disable when done so it doesn't interfere. After I uninstalled each one, I would do a recovery reboot each time. I'm not sure if it matters; but didn't think it would hurt! (even though I read in one case, u can lose root if reboot to frequently) After I did all that; I'm shocked how smooth it is. that's an understatement too. There isn't a combination of words to describe how well my phone is working! Daily driver; samsung captivate, running slim bean 4.1.2 thank you for all the hard work! Love this rom, I also downloaded team acid member dsexton702's adrenaline injection; thank you very much d for your hard work as well! I only wish I could do half the things these guys can do! Oh and I've only been in this scene for about a month; So I'm really super duper new haha! Anyways to all a good night! Pic, currently Thank you again; I couldn't be happier with my phone!
I just wanted to add my two cents about which cpu/kernel control to consider. I've never used setcpu that you are currently on but I would definitely suggest you try out Semaphore manager since you are on Slimbean and it comes stock with Semaphore kernel. Using it's manager will likely give you more control over the cpu and kernel than what you are currently using.