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I really have no idea why a lot of you guys are still on stock?
This is my very first android, and i took 2 hours reading and another hour asking questions. and another hour rooting my phone.
Just root your damn phone.
I have 3 kids. Taking 3 hours out of my day to root my phone is not an option.
I did make time to mess with my htc incredible only because is was a one click trick.
30 minutes a day.. its worth it.
your question should have been "why do you stay unrooted".. THAT it understandable.
Stock ROM is pretty good though.
Cute dog. is there a way to edit topics?
I stayed unrooted for about three weeks. It took me that long to work up the nerve to root. After I'd read the procedure through a few times, asked a few questions, and, most importantly, satisfied myself that it was entirely reversible, I went for it.
I'm still stock because flashing roms and losing some of my settings got old on my Nexus One. I simply tired of flashing kernels, radios, roms, themes and never really being any happier than I was to start with. Been there done that. I did the whole "I got my first android and want to be like the cool kids and root". I've been using Android and flashing roms for years.
I was always tweaking and I would improve one thing, and another thing would be degraded or broken.I would get better battery life but have to deal with reboots. I would get great GPS but then wifi would break, or the device would get hot...or it would be stable and basically like it was before I ever even rooted in the first place.
CM7 was the best I used(most stable anyway), but even then I got really bored. I tried some Sense roms and really liked them but they were all buggy as hell as well. So I decided to get a Sense device. IF I hated Sense, I would certainly root but then again if I hated sense I wouldn't have bought the Tbolt.
So far I have not had one reboot, not one single issue except that GPS can be slow once in awhile, but then I see folks with rooted devices, flashed kernels and radios complaining of the same thing. Today I went all over town and GPS worked great...it's a random thing.
When I see a rom I HAVE TO HAVE, I'll root and flash it, but so far I have not seen anything that makes me want give up my perfectly working device/os.
With the Nexus One I found the Flavored Ice themes and fell in love with Dark Cherry. I rooted just so I could have that theme. Unfortunately theming is difficult for Sense so there are not really many themes to lure me in.
Some things I DO miss from being rooted, Ad-Free, SetCPU(but again usually ahve to live with some reboots which I hate), being able to flash some cool things like the Hulu apk. no getting around it there are things I miss from being rooted.
However, I have a rooted Moto Zoom and I use that now more than my TBolt. My TBolt has become more like a phone again and I just want it stable for phones calls and navigation.
As a matter of fact, I have rejected Verizon's update because for ONCE I have a device that I am perfectly happy with as is.
If I were going to root it would be to flash this rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1013577
and then install ad-free and a few other apps I miss. As it stands I can afford to pay for tethering so I don't even have any motivation to root for free tethering.
I know, what about bloat? Well I have over a hundred apps installed and I still have 1.97 GB of space left. I came from Nexus One where with zero apps installed I had 120MB of free app space! The apps simply don't bother me being there om my Tbolt. Space isn't an issue for me.
To wrap it up, my battery life is fine, my phone call quality is superior to anything I've ever had. I love the sense UI and my device/os is stable as hell.
I am happy.
PS: FWIW, I did root my TBolt using the one click method at android central just to make sure it would work with the USB port on my computer, I then promptly unrooted it. I can re-root anytime I want. No hurry and I may very well never re-root, especially given that I will be again upgrading my phone again as soon as the next best thing is released(that is not the Charge).
Old MuckenMire said:
I'm still stock because flashing roms and losing some of my settings got old on my Nexus One. I simply tired of flashing kernels, radios, roms, themes and never really being any happier than I was to start with. Been there done that. I did the whole "I got my first android and want to be like the cool kids and root". I've been using Android and flashing roms for years.
I was always tweaking and I would improve one thing, and another thing would be degraded or broken.I would get better battery life but have to deal with reboots. I would get great GPS but then wifi would break, or the device would get hot...or it would be stable and basically like it was before I ever even rooted in the first place.
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While I am rooted, I know exactly what you mean. I am on Das BAMF 1.6.2 and am planning to stay put for awhile. Sometimes I fail to use the best features of my phone because I've recently flashed and don't want to input my user name and PW into Pandora while I am driving down the freeway.
Once we have RIL and are officially supported by CM7 I will get back into the flashing game. I am not a big fan of Sense and have done my best to avoid it on my device using LP, Contapps, Handcent
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If you flash new roms every day, how do you rebuild your desktops, reinstall apps, etc? You do this procedure every day????
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If you flash new roms every day, how do you rebuild your desktops, reinstall apps, etc? You do this procedure every day????
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Appbrain reinstalls all your apps. Resetting icons/widgets takes 2 mins, tops
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If you flash new roms every day, how do you rebuild your desktops, reinstall apps, etc? You do this procedure every day????
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I don't think a lot of people flash new roms everyday.
Usually if you are updating a Rom, like from Das bamf 162 to 163, you don't need to wipe. apps, texts, layout, and what not stay the same.
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MoreGone said:
While I am rooted, I know exactly what you mean. I am on Das BAMF 1.6.2 and am planning to stay put for awhile. Sometimes I fail to use the best features of my phone because I've recently flashed and don't want to input my user name and PW into Pandora while I am driving down the freeway.
Once we have RIL and are officially supported by CM7 I will get back into the flashing game. I am not a big fan of Sense and have done my best to avoid it on my device using LP, Contapps, Handcent
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I was the same way with Slacker over the past year. especially because I was rooted and used A2SD, it would always log me out even if I hadn't recently flashed. Slacker just doesn't seem to like being on the SD card and hold the password at the same time. At the end of the day I'm not in any way against rooting and I'm glad it's there as an option for when I get bored. I always do get bored, either with stock or flashing roms...or just with any given device itself.
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I don't think a lot of people flash new roms everyday.
Usually if you are updating a Rom, like from Das bamf 162 to 163, you don't need to wipe. apps, texts, layout, and what not stay the same.
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This is correct. The issue is not UPDATING roms...you get to keep all your settings that way. The issue is having to wipe before flashing a new rom. Me personally, it takes me a whole hell of a lot longer than two minutes to get everything back the way I want it. Downloading all my apps is not the issue. It's getting all of the settings for over a hundred apps back the way I want. Just as an example. Every website I visit I log into with a password. I use Skyfire, stock, Dolphin HD. When I wipe I have to go back and re-log into every damn website I visit again...and I have to do it every time I want to try a new rom...which ends up being often because once you flash one, it leads to another and another, always searching for that perfect rom. I often did flash at least every other day. Most developers would update their rom, fixing or adding something and the temptation was too strong not to test drive it again. But liek I said it makes the device never feel complete because I never settled on anything long term.
I will say this tho, it was rooting and flashing that made me realize how much I enjoyed Sense UI. I tried EVERY rom there was for the N1 and never enjoyed anything the way I did Sense(although I did love ROD's MIUI MoD rom for N1+ LauncherPro Plus...it was quick as hell and had beautiful transitions, not as stable as CM7 tho) and thru root and flashing you can try different UI's and find the one that is right for you. So rooting and flashing is definitely a great thing and like I said I'm glad it's an option I have to admit I miss that little high you get while waiting for a new rom to flash. Wondering if you've soft bricked, and the anticipation of seeing all the goodies new roms contain. The feeling of having total control over your device is nice too.
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Appbrain reinstalls all your apps. Resetting icons/widgets takes 2 mins, tops
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Doesn't TiBackup reinstall your apps just as well? I don't use Appbrain so I don't know the benefit.
KarukTribe said:
I have 3 kids. Taking 3 hours out of my day to root my phone is not an option.
I did make time to mess with my htc incredible only because is was a one click trick.
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I have four kids and a large closet. Adapt and overcome.
major_works said:
I stayed unrooted for about three weeks. It took me that long to work up the nerve to root. After I'd read the procedure through a few times, asked a few questions, and, most importantly, satisfied myself that it was entirely reversible, I went for it.
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+1 to this, exactly what I though too.
I bricked my Droid X a couple of times, and was able to get it back every time, but it taught me to be careful.
I flash a new Rom daily and set up a whole new theme every time I always got a new phone that way lol
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major_works said:
I stayed unrooted for about three weeks. It took me that long to work up the nerve to root. After I'd read the procedure through a few times, asked a few questions, and, most importantly, satisfied myself that it was entirely reversible, I went for it.
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I did this too. I plugged my phone into the USB and it took me another hour of rereading the guide before I finally got the nerve to start
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I'm sure I'll root eventually, I'm just kinda in the same boat as MuckenMire, tired on the endless rom shuffle. The TBolt is my first Android, but I'm coming from a number of WinMo 6.x devices. As some of you probably know from experience you pretty much had to flash a custom rom to make many of those phones usable. The Tbolt is a much better user experience stock than any of my old WinMo devices were with custom roms. Right now the bloatware would be the only reason I would bother with root. This phone is fast, stable and highly customizable stock. Right now I just don't see a compelling reason to root it.
That being said, first time I need to teather and VZW wants to charge me, I will probably root. I don't do it often enough to justify paying extra for it.
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I love all these people who claim they are so busy, really come on, you obviously have time if you browse the XDA forums and Im sure you spend a lot of time on facebook.
Get over yourself.
Sorry for this Trollin, It just irritates me.
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I love all these people who claim they are so busy, really come on, you obviously have time if you browse the XDA forums and Im sure you spend a lot of time on facebook.
Get over yourself.
Sorry for this Trollin, It just irritates me.
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I'm over myself. I have time, but I just don't want to root. I'm happy with what I have. None of the roms look that great to me, so why bother? Why do some of you feel like everyone has to root. Like we're idiots cause we're running stock. Why do you really care what others are doing?
Okay, I used to love this phone. I got it back in Feb when it was relatively new to where I live and the first thing I did was root and flash it with CM. This gave me a serious case of ORD and I couldn't stop trying out new ROMs on my phone. It was amazing! And fun! And everything was quick. Couple months down the line, I lost my phone and quickly replaced it with another Nexus S. More flashing ensued.
So, now 8 months down the line, I find myself getting a little bored with the constant flashing and I've been looking for something that will be stable. Now, here's the problem, after the first flash of a ROM everything seems super zippy! And it fills me with hope and brings a tear to my eye. But, then I start actually using my phone...load 25 apps...everything's fine...50 apps...going strong...75 apps, 4 days in...uh oh, OH HAI LAG!...*phone makes a trollface*...100 apps, a week in...the lag is so bad I can't do any gaming...my favourite game Muffin Knight makes me want to chuck my phone across the room; it lags so much that by the time I think I've got me a sweet muffin, I'm somehow teleported to a little rat's back. This is the case with any ROM - CM7, MIUI, several AOSP ROMs like Oxygen, CO2, SuperAOSP/OSR, NexusBread. All of them slow down after several days.
What causes this? Can it be a hardware issue? Do I have a faulty phone? Could it be I flashed too much? I never really was one for overclocking, my phone doesn't handle it well for the long haul. Is it Android's memory management that is poor? Oh, and while we're on the topic. What the heck is "True Multitasking"? Does it mean, when I'm playing a game, I get a call and when I hang up, the game has restarted? Or I load a page on my browser and when I go back it has to reload? Or pausing any game and pressing home to do something else, then coming back to it to see it has to restart? I don't think my phone can handle more than two tasks well.
Anyway, at this point, what do the XDAliens think I should do? A hard reset? Maybe format my SD card too? Or what else can I do? Any suggestions would help.
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Okay, I used to love this phone. I got it back in Feb when it was relatively new to where I live and the first thing I did was root and flash it with CM. This gave me a serious case of ORD and I couldn't stop trying out new ROMs on my phone. It was amazing! And fun! And everything was quick. Couple months down the line, I lost my phone and quickly replaced it with another Nexus S. More flashing ensued.
So, now 8 months down the line, I find myself getting a little bored with the constant flashing and I've been looking for something that will be stable. Now, here's the problem, after the first flash of a ROM everything seems super zippy! And it fills me with hope and brings a tear to my eye. But, then I start actually using my phone...load 25 apps...everything's fine...50 apps...going strong...75 apps, 4 days in...uh oh, OH HAI LAG!...*phone makes a trollface*...100 apps, a week in...the lag is so bad I can't do any gaming...my favourite game Muffin Knight makes me want to chuck my phone across the room; it lags so much that by the time I think I've got me a sweet muffin, I'm somehow teleported to a little rat's back. This is the case with any ROM - CM7, MIUI, several AOSP ROMs like Oxygen, CO2, SuperAOSP/OSR, NexusBread. All of them slow down after several days.
What causes this? Can it be a hardware issue? Do I have a faulty phone? Could it be I flashed too much? I never really was one for overclocking, my phone doesn't handle it well for the long haul. Is it Android's memory management that is poor? Oh, and while we're on the topic. What the heck is "True Multitasking"? Does it mean, when I'm playing a game, I get a call and when I hang up, the game has restarted? Or I load a page on my browser and when I go back it has to reload? Or pausing any game and pressing home to do something else, then coming back to it to see it has to restart? I don't think my phone can handle more than two tasks well.
Anyway, at this point, what do the XDAliens think I should do? A hard reset? Maybe format my SD card too? Or what else can I do? Any suggestions would help.
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wipe your dalvik and try to reboot at least once a day,
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wipe your dalvik and try to reboot at least once a day,
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Oh, I do do that! As part of my troubleshooting. But, it doesn't help much. Maybe an hour or so of seemingly lag free use. But, once I've used a bunch of apps it's back to Lagville. So yeah, no go, at least not when it come to Muffin Knight (Lol, this has become my benchmark)
EDIT: I should also mention, I've tried moving a lot of my heavy apps to SD.
technically since nexus has internal memory shouldnt be as fast as "normal" internal memory? ie internal memory and SD space? But 100 apps that is quite a bit. Shouldnt be aproblem
So, no one else experiences lags after a few days of running all their apps? Maybe once they cross the 70 apps mark. No stutters in scrolling or gaming? No one else notices Android's poor multi-tasking? Poor app load times, poor widget response times?
I'm trying to figure out if it's just my phone or whether this happens to everyone.
EDIT: Maybe I should revert back to stock and if the lags continue, I could take it in to the shop under warranty?
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So, no one else experiences lags after a few days of running all their apps? Maybe once they cross the 70 apps mark. No stutters in scrolling or gaming? No one else notices Android's poor multi-tasking? Poor app load times, poor widget response times?
I'm trying to figure out if it's just my phone or whether this happens to everyone.
EDIT: Maybe I should revert back to stock and if the lags continue, I could take it in to the shop under warranty?
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No, No and No - > 100 apps - stock rom. Everything remains smooth and has for a long time. I reboot the phone maybe twice a month and never force clear the dalvik cache.
krohnjw said:
No, No and No - > 100 apps - stock rom. Everything remains smooth and has for a long time. I reboot the phone maybe twice a month and never force clear the dalvik cache.
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Thanks for the reply. I clear the dalvik ALL the time for flashing a new ROM or when my current one is feeling laggy. Maybe I shouldn't have. EDIT: I'm curious...Why do you not clear the Dalvik? Just because you've never had to?
Have you ever flashed other ROMs? Maybe bare AOSP ROMs like DevNull? Any issues there?
I'm thinking I should reset, reformat and return to stock...
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Thanks for the reply. I clear the dalvik ALL the time for flashing a new ROM or when my current one is feeling laggy. Maybe I shouldn't have. EDIT: I'm curious...Why do you not clear the Dalvik? Just because you've never had to?
Have you ever flashed other ROMs? Maybe bare AOSP ROMs like DevNull? Any issues there?
I'm thinking I should reset, reformat and return to stock...
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I don't see a reason to clear the Dalvik cache on a regular basis - that advice just doesn't make any sense. After you clear it, it just gets rebuilt when you reboot anyway, and just leads to a really long start up time. Unless you are installing / uninstalling a massive amount of apps and you feel the cache is far too large it just doesn't make sense. Between rom flashes, sure. But as a regular thing to help performance? That just doesn't hold water for me.
I flashed CM7 back around Feb / March but stability was an issue at that point still so I went back to stock. Since then I've never had any issues with running a rooted stock rom on the Nexus S so I never had any interest in most of the custom roms (outside of a few AOSP roms I built myself) as they all seem to introduce little bugs for the most part and I have little use for the "tweaks" and customizations included in most.
Ok, ill say it...Why the hell do you need that many apps. You can't possibly use them all. Delete the ones you don't need....
Anyways, wipe everything when you flash the rom, and don't wipe anything after that. Reboot every other day or so. That's what works for me but I have like 20 apps ..
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Igotsanevo4g said:
Ok, ill say it...Why the hell do you need that many apps. You can't possibly use them all. Delete the ones you don't need....
Anyways, wipe everything when you flash the rom, and don't wipe anything after that. Reboot every other day or so. That's what works for me but I have like 20 apps ..
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he never said he had 100 separate apps...he just said after the 100th time running an app
Igotsanevo4g said:
Ok, ill say it...Why the hell do you need that many apps. You can't possibly use them all. Delete the ones you don't need....
Anyways, wipe everything when you flash the rom, and don't wipe anything after that. Reboot every other day or so. That's what works for me but I have like 20 apps ..
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That's not very helpful. I should be able to have as many apps as I need. A certain competing platform allows this. Anyway, I do use most of my apps. Maybe not on a daily basis, but I want them around for when I need them.
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hp420 said:
he never said he had 100 separate apps...he just said after the 100th time running an app
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No, I meant 100 apps.
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krohnjw said:
I don't see a reason to clear the Dalvik cache on a regular basis - that advice just doesn't make any sense. After you clear it, it just gets rebuilt when you reboot anyway, and just leads to a really long start up time. Unless you are installing / uninstalling a massive amount of apps and you feel the cache is far too large it just doesn't make sense. Between rom flashes, sure. But as a regular thing to help performance? That just doesn't hold water for me.
I flashed CM7 back around Feb / March but stability was an issue at that point still so I went back to stock. Since then I've never had any issues with running a rooted stock rom on the Nexus S so I never had any interest in most of the custom roms (outside of a few AOSP roms I built myself) as they all seem to introduce little bugs for the most part and I have little use for the "tweaks" and customizations included in most.
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Okay, I've already started afresh with CO2. Going to see how it goes. Kind of going slow on reloading my apps. Maybe I can figure out better at what point performance starts to suffer.
If things don't work out, I will follow your lead. Thanks again!
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Sounds like your memory is simply being used up by open/running apps. I would suggest going into settings -> applications -> development ->checkmark "stop app via long press".
When you are done using an app, hold the back button down. This will close the application and free up memory.
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Sounds like your memory is simply being used up by open/running apps. I would suggest going into settings -> applications -> development ->checkmark "stop app via long press".
When you are done using an app, hold the back button down. This will close the application and free up memory.
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that's the sole reason I've always steered clear of stock roms. That is my absolute favorite feature of CM & variants. I always long press every time I'm done with any app to close it
ka24e said:
Sounds like your memory is simply being used up by open/running apps. I would suggest going into settings -> applications -> development ->checkmark "stop app via long press".
When you are done using an app, hold the back button down. This will close the application and free up memory.
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But, there's a general consensus lately that task killers aren't good for Android. I'm thinking force killing apps would have the same effect. Also, if I have to do that just to get a reasonable experience, where does it leave Android's claim of "True Multitasking"?
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But, there's a general consensus lately that task killers aren't good for Android. I'm thinking force killing apps would have the same effect. Also, if I have to do that just to get a reasonable experience, where does it leave Android's claim of "True Multitasking"?
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Android is a "True Multitasking" system, but also has limitation as others PC or Server.
So if you want good speed, keep your background app clearly is a easy way.
try running v6 supercharger. it should help your device cope a lot better with so many apps on your device. link here. run beta 6.3 with a balanced setting and if you want more performance at the cost of it aggressively closing superfluous apps, go aggressive. also try nitro lag nullifier and don't forget to remove the extra .pdf extension off of the end because it's a shell script (.sh)
Cache has been invented for the sole purpose of speeding up a system or service. Forget about wiping your Dalvik cache and even the regular cache has its purpose on the phone. But that point has been cleared already.
The Nexus has its limitations just like any other device. The RAM can only cope with so much apps, if you fill up your RAM, you'll get lag. It's just a point of being a little bit intelligent with your phone. Unless QC failed at Samsung and you have a faulty device, the Nexus should run really smoothly, regardless of how many apps you have installed (again, within the limitations of the internal memory). But having 50 apps open (just a plain example) will of course have its impact on the device, the same as it would on 'that competing platform'.
Reopening apps is superfast anyway so there really isn't a reason to keep too many of them open. I force close my apps all the time as well and never had it backfire on me, so I don't see how it would have a bad effect.
Of course you can always start playing around with another ROM or overclocking the phone just to get a little bit more juice from it. I'm running on 1.3Ghz at the moment and must say that it improves the general experiences and reduces lag somewhat as well.
Good luck,
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If it had 1gb ram you would be fine..m.
In the life of this phone, I have easily flashed a good 15-20 different Roms onto the device and used most of them for a decent amount of time. NO ROM has ever worked very good at all. The best luck I have ever had were with a couple like Valhalla and Octane that would work pretty decent for a couple months then the problems would always return in full force. Again, EVERY single rom has gotten extremely annoying problems eventually. I have had it with this phone.
I don't know what I could be missing here, as I have tried multiple times to start completely fresh from stock and wipe everything before and after a flash, but nothing works. The current ROM was installed after an sd card format, full wipe, wiped caches, etc... Right now it will randomly exit the messaging app frequently, has wifi problems, apps force close, random restarts, it often won't upload/download things because it says it doesn't have an sd card, and to top it off, CWM is having problems and will get stuck on a screen with just a picture and no words.
This phone is borderline unusable for its stability and other issues and I am tired of trying to make it work well. I am not even new to flashing roms, but this phone is a headache. Someone, please help me figure out what is wrong with this phone.
Even with these problems and my long rant here, this would still be a great phone and should have plenty of life left in it. I had minimal problems with my old SGS Captivate that I had before this, so I don't know what is wrong. Perhaps a piece of hardware is faulty? I would highly doubt that. I need help!
Use the GB Starter Pack. If you are using Titanium to put everything back, it may lead to problems. I remember a couple of times where restoring all my apks and data with Titanium caused a soft boot or force close cycle.
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I stopped using TB a long time ago. That would not be the problem.
What ROM are you currently using right now. Maybe see if you can take a log of it to find out why the things Messaging might not be working?
From my tank of a Galaxy S 4G. Seen more floor than a rookie lightweight in wrestling.
GreyDark said:
What ROM are you currently using right now. Maybe see if you can take a log of it to find out why the things Messaging might not be working?
From my tank of a Galaxy S 4G. Seen more floor than a rookie lightweight in wrestling.
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It is currently on the non-themed Octane 3.0. I don't have the phone next to me right now, but can you explain the process for taking a log?
It sounds like you've wasted too much time trying flashing roms and trying to make the piece of crap perfect than actually using the phone. As much as I hate the stock of this phone, I will suggest using the one click kj6 heimdall then root it and voodoo no tweaks. Also start from fresh and try octane v3.0 w/o tweaks or kernal updates.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/11930-learn-to-logcat-like-a-pro/
I hope that helps you out. There are some apps on the market like CatLog and aLogcat that also take logs if the guide doesn't work for you.
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It sounds like you've wasted too much time trying flashing roms and trying to make the piece of crap perfect than actually using the phone. As much as I hate the stock of this phone, I will suggest using the one click kj6 heimdall then root it and voodoo no tweaks. Also start from fresh and try octane v3.0 w/o tweaks or kernal updates.
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Im not trying to make it perfect at all. I am just trying to make it usable. It is extremely annoying when all you want to do is create a message but the app constantly force closes no matter what you do. The dialer has had the same closing problem also. Or the frequent rebooting multiple times a day. Like I said, I have had a few good flashes, but they only last for a few months until the problems come back.
To me, it seems as if though you are having some cache problems. Start fresh. Flash to froyo and try. If that doesn't work, then take your phone to t-mobile, because that is a hardware problem. I have been using the same rom for a month or two now (latest beta version of my AOSP Style) and I haven't had a single fc. I have even used processor tweaks and whatnot. SO before you cuss this phone out, I suggest you try my solution, it is guaranteed to work.
Oh yeah, as air said, it might actually be a hardware problem.
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To me, it seems as if though you are having some cache problems. Start fresh. Flash to froyo and try. If that doesn't work, then take your phone to t-mobile, because that is a hardware problem. I have been using the same rom for a month or two now (latest beta version of my AOSP Style) and I haven't had a single fc. I have even used processor tweaks and whatnot. SO before you cuss this phone out, I suggest you try my solution, it is guaranteed to work.
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I have flashed back to froyo already, unfortunately. And there isn't a contract on the phone anyway. Do you know what piece of hardware would cause this though?
Not really sure, but if you are back to stock, I'd try to exchange it for another phone. I've had this phone since June (also not on contract), and I haven't had any of the problems you've had. Yes, I do need to reboot my phone every once in a while because bluetooth sticks and won't come on, but that's about it.
Usually, after I flash a rom and restore my programs/theme, I'll go back into cwm, wipe cache, wipe, dalvik, fix permissions, and then reboot and let the phone sit for a while. That usually takes care of making sure everything works right.
So I was wondering and noticing. I han used or had to use Odin on my device in a longggg tme . Anyone else noticing our phone is more stable than say the fascinate? So glad I bought this device. I'm on like 10 days up time on cm 10.0 stable its great
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Holy crap that's the truth.
On the fascinate, it was the exception rather than the rule to be able to dirty flash. The cache was something you actively had to manage and wipe often; either manually or automatically with a program like Cache Cleaner NG. It seemed inevitable that phone would start to get flakey after a month on a ROM and nothing but an Odin restore would bring it back.
The Fascinate was a great phone (especially once MTD hit its stride) but I am so glad to not have to deal with its quirks or ridiculously paltry RAM anymore.
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Holy crap that's the truth.
On the fascinate, it was the exception rather than the rule to be able to dirty flash. The cache was something you actively had to manage and wipe often; either manually or automatically with a program like Cache Cleaner NG. It seemed inevitable that phone would start to get flakey after a month on a ROM and nothing but an Odin restore would bring it back.
The Fascinate was a great phone (especially once MTD hit its stride) but I am so glad to not have to deal with its quirks or ridiculously paltry RAM anymore.
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I agree...also since the partition layout is the same on this device between touchwiz and aosp, dirty flashing causes alot less issues. I still think its a good idea to odin back to stock or boot into recovery and wipe data/ format sd every couple months.
Like I am running my fascinate on 4.2 alphas, and I messed up a few times and must have flashed in odin already like 10 times.....
also all these clowns whining over where is 4.2. IMO besides minor graphical improvements there is nothing new about it.
No matter what ROM I put on my phone, sense 6, 7, AOSP 5.1 every rom I use my phone is extremely slow and unreliable. I'm not sure what I can do at this point and am wondering if the hardware is worn out, or I have corrupt files. I've wiped everything in twrp many times and still get a phone that can not even handle navigation without freezing or not working. Anyone else have terrible performance regardless of the rom?
Have you updated your firmware?
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No matter what ROM I put on my phone, sense 6, 7, AOSP 5.1 every rom I use my phone is extremely slow and unreliable. I'm not sure what I can do at this point and am wondering if the hardware is worn out, or I have corrupt files. I've wiped everything in twrp many times and still get a phone that can not even handle navigation without freezing or not working. Anyone else have terrible performance regardless of the rom?
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When was your last ruu? Doctor says to keep the bits clean you gotta ruu!
And depending on use you may want to run fs trim. Like this one
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fifthelement.trimmer
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d1ez3 said:
No matter what ROM I put on my phone, sense 6, 7, AOSP 5.1 every rom I use my phone is extremely slow and unreliable. I'm not sure what I can do at this point and am wondering if the hardware is worn out, or I have corrupt files. I've wiped everything in twrp many times and still get a phone that can not even handle navigation without freezing or not working. Anyone else have terrible performance regardless of the rom?
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To be honest.. I've only noticed this on ART file system. I just stick it out and restart my phone every so often and usually fixes it.
I even tested once Dalvik vs ART. I dont have any numbers to back up my theory, but as soon as i change back to dalvik, its night and day difference and doesnt slow down.
Unfortunately not sure if 5.x.x can use Dalvik
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When was your last ruu? Doctor says to keep the bits clean you gotta ruu!
And depending on use you may want to run fs trim. Like this one
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fifthelement.trimmer
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Hah, I actually did this last night before checking this thread. I figured that was the only real option that would make my phone the same as new. So far running well, a lot better than before. I notice redraws and slowdowns only when navigating in my car with bluetooth and charging.. music streaming as well. Maybe it's a little much for the phone.
Clearing the internal memory definitely helped out, I'll try the trim eventually too.
Thanks for making the RUU