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I just got into flashing roms and I love it! I love the feeling of having it rooted, being able to customize it, install 3rd party apps, etc.
But my question is- I have darky's rom and would like to try out others. I just never have the time because I have to backup everything, flash back, reroot, etc.
I don't have a problem with it but it's just a little tedious.
I read that some people don't always flash back and just stick the new rom into the phone. So is that wise? Sorry if it's a noob question...!
Honestly the only time I flash stock is when something appears to be broken.
You do not have to flash stock. There is a risk either way. In both cases you have to backup all your apps and restore.
I went from a jpy base rom to an armani base without a flash to stock. Disabled lag fix, wiped davlik cache, flashed. all went well.
Be prepared that if something goes wrong you may need odin to recover
I never ever flash back to stock......but I do always disable any lagfix first!
Actually, pretty much every kernel now supports ext4 so disabling lagfix is not necessary.
I never flash to stock unless something is broken or if I get assaulted with FCs.
Right now, since my phone is acting up, I'm actually Master Clearing too.
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Interesting, so the majority of people don't master clear. Maybe there should be a poll up.
I have Cognition 3.03 and want to go to 3.04 but I don't want to have to master clear, reroot and nada nada nada.
Usually on updates it isn't specified anyway. And I never do either unless something breaks.
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Help?
Got a crazy newb type question. Maybe one of you would be willing to help me out with?
I have had my captivate for almost 6 months now. Still as much or more in love with it as I was when I got it. However, I am starting to get a bit anxious for froyo and wondering just how much I am missing in the custom side of things. Ihave spent the past 15 years in graphic design and have a lod of experience in the tech side of things etc so I would not consider myself a total newb, but when it comes to flashing, roms, flashing of roms ;], modems or anything else that goes with it, I am very limited..Still rockin' stock 2.1update1
Would one of you extremely smart people with a little extra free time be willing to meet with me and teach me the tools/tricks of the trade? Or at the very least explain things for me and send me on my way? lol.
Anything would be appreciated....thx
I am glad to see this. I would like to see a poll too. I just flashed my first ROM last night was was not sure if this was an acceptable way of switching ROMs.
@gicuenitro,
It is truly an easy process. Stop in the phoenix irc channel and I, or others, would be glad to walk you through it. People are usually around in the afternoon/evenings.
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When I first started flashing, roms that is, I always used Odin back to stock. Now I just flash using cwm after backing everything up. No problems.
Haven't flashed to stock since I bricked my second phone doing it. Now I just download Rom to phone, CWM update, turn on wifi, login to Google account, TiBu restore, launcher restore and done, takes about 15 min.
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But my question is- I have darky's rom and would like to try out others. I just never have the time because I have to backup everything, flash back, reroot, etc.
I don't have a problem with it but it's just a little tedious.
I read that some people don't always flash back and just stick the new rom into the phone. So is that wise? Sorry if it's a noob question...!
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I don't bother flashing back to stock unless something doesn't work right after the new flash. For example, I flashed Perception 10.1 over my old rom and couldn't receive incoming calls (though data and sms worked fine). I flashed back to stock, then reflashed 10.1 and everything worked proper. That was the only time I've needed to flash back to stock.
Flashing a new rom doesn't have to be a tedious process if you automate most of it. Here's my regular procedure for flashing a new rom:
1. Do a nandroid backup with Rom Manager, in case something goes wrong and I need to revert the phone back to it's current state, or if I don't like the new rom and want to restore my phone to how it was before I flashed. A nandroid backup usually takes 5-10 minutes. You don't need to do anything in the process, just go read engadget.com or something while it happens.
2. Use titanium backup to back up all my apps and data. The time this will take depends on how many apps you have, and how many you already have backed up. It usually takes me about 5 minutes to back up all my stuff (automated again, you don't need to do anything while this happens).
3. Flash the new rom over the old one. I don't bother disabling voodoo either, just because as someone else already pointed out, most of the roms use kernels that support ext4 filesystems. This also usually takes about 15 minutes (OS boot time included). This also doesn't require you to do anything while you wait.
4. Once the new rom is booted up, I'll do a quick check to make sure all the primary functions work (voice calls, data, sms). Then I download Titanium Backup and do a batch restore of all my user apps/data. This will take anywhere from 5-15 minutes depending on how much stuff you have. If you have the paid version of Titanium Backup, just run the market doctor afterwards to link all your restored apps back to the market, so you can be notified of updates. It takes a few seconds to run market doctor.
Total time for flashing a new rom and reloading all my stuff is 30-45 minutes, the vast majority of which I don't have to actually interact with the phone. After that, it's just a matter of setting up your widgets and email accounts again, which I think you can also do from TB, but I don't bother.
Edit: Actually, come to think of it, ADW launcher will save your widgets across rom flashes if you restore your user data with TB.
I do not. I have never heard any actual theory of how doing so could possibly be of any use other than as a placebo or an easy way to brick your phone.
Nice to hear some of you guys are having success not going back to stock all the time. That is a tedious process.
TiBu is a huge time saver, especially the paid version. I may start checking out other roms without flashing stock first since so many of you are doing it without issues.
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I always flash stock. It's not needed, but I like starting from fresh. I have done it a few times right over another ROM without any issues. Just personal preference I suppose.
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Interesting, so the majority of people don't master clear. Maybe there should be a poll up.
I have Cognition 3.03 and want to go to 3.04 but I don't want to have to master clear, reroot and nada nada nada.
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I thought that DG provided an update to take you from Cog 3.03 to 3.04 without having to flash stock nor MC...or maybe that was another ROM? Check his downloads.
EDIT: Sorry there was an upgrade version for 3.03, but not 3.04.
I know that my question has been answered in countless threads.... but what I'm hoping to do is get this information compiled into one thread (and if it exists already, please point me there).
What I'm wondering is who's stock, who's rooted, what ROM you're running and if you had any issues.
I'm really not looking for any fixes to problems in this thread, just a simple compilation to get percentages, because I like to play the numbers.
I'll even start:
Stock Inspire with official sideloading and custom APN for hotspot
Only a random occurance where screen rotation stops
Owned since April 22
I've run LeeDroid and Android Revolution so far. With both ROM's I've noticed nice improvements in overall responsiveness of the phone. However, both suffer slight lag from the application Slacker Radio (just in case you enjoy streaming music ) that builds up over time to the point where I have to reset my phone just to continue to use it.
With LeeDroid, I've noticed that my Pandora app doesn't give it lag, or such a small amount that I don't really notice/care about it.
I've run a lot of Radio's (With their RIL) so I won't go into that, but the only Kernel I've ever played with was the oen for LeeDroid. Dunno if it actually did anything.
LeeDroid also, of the two (three if you count stock) ROM's I've run has the best battery life by far. Can't really go into official numbers since I've been tweaking my phone non-stop for a week now working out a few signal/speed bugs, however I've noticed that I don't have to plug it into my external battery except once a day, even after tweaking and adjusting non-stop for 4-6 hours.
So yeah, that's my take on it. If you're willing to sit down and play with things to get it to work, I'd say go for it. If you want something quick and easy, then I'd suggest maybe holding off a bit and enjoying stock.
Well, I ran my phone bone stock for the first 3 weeks of owning it, then rooted without any issue using bubby's simple root method.
Waited another ~1.5 months before flashing the rom I'm using now, Inspired Ace.
The rom has been a flawless, near stock (sense) gingerbread experience. I often forget I even flashed anything, except for the little gingerbread differences, of course.
Seriously, my guess is that an offical gb release from HTC for this phone would look nearly identical to this rom.
Haven't done anything radio-wise aside from flashing the matching ril for the stock radio. I haven't even updated to the new OTA radio yet.
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Scott_S said:
Well,....
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Are you the unadventurous stick in the mud.
Tx Redneck said:
Are you the unadventurous stick in the mud.
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Nah. I've actually been getting the "itch."
There's so many roms to check out, and I'm running out of excuses not to try some.
I'm just still a little hazy on some of the pre-flashing procedures, mainly cwr related. Like differences between "wiping" and format /system, /data, etc.
I'm finding that trying too hard to avoid misery before it happens results in perpetual inaction, though.
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I just got the Inspire last week (my first Android phone), and I can't help but tinker, so I've rooted and put a custom ROM on already. (LeeDroid and now CyanogenMod 7) I found these two video guides to be very helpful, as I wasn't familiar with a lot of the terminology people throw around.
Rooting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCcd1XQrTzE
Custom ROM:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUUo9EMlT5Y
Be warned, this took me a lot longer than I anticipated (a couple of hours total, but I was multi tasking. [multi tasking = watching Game of Thrones]).
I really like CM7, it feels faster than stock and my battery life seems better as well.
Good luck!
I ran Stock for about 2 days. No known Issues.
I then Rooted and Ran Bubby's one click and ran the rooted stock RUU for about 3 days. No Known issues.
I then flashed Ace Inspired. It was fantastic. I ran it for about 2 days. Only issue I had was screen would stick in rotation. It just wouldn't move. A Reboot fixed it. I made a back so I could easily return to it. I haven't.
I then flashed Leedriod. I have been running this rom since. Its amazing. I have seen no issues. I Also made a Backup of this rom so I could easily return to it. I have.
I then flashed Gingerbeast yesterday. Its fast and clean. But...Sirius Radio would randomly disconnect. Wireless would random disconnect. Bluetooth stuttered.
I returned to Leedriod this morning. Again, no issues.
When my inspire was stock everything seemed to work like it should. Except I had one huge problem, and its a problem that I have had with any phone from at&t, I had absolutely zero service here in southwest Wisconsin where I'm going to school.
I then decided to root in hopes that with a new radio I could get signal. I went with Leedroids Rom and kernel and couldn't be happier. Now I get full service edge! I didn't even have to mess with the radio.
I still can't believe that with those two changes I get great service. I'm comparing to 3 phones all on the same network, razr, blackjack 2, and Samsung flight 2. The inspire was the second to worst service here, now blows all of the other phones out of the water.
Thanks Leedroid!!
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Well, I ran my phone bone stock for the first 3 weeks of owning it, then rooted without any issue using bubby's simple root method.
Waited another ~1.5 months before flashing the rom I'm using now, Inspired Ace.
The rom has been a flawless, near stock (sense) gingerbread experience. I often forget I even flashed anything, except for the little gingerbread differences, of course.
Seriously, my guess is that an offical gb release from HTC for this phone would look nearly identical to this rom.
Haven't done anything radio-wise aside from flashing the matching ril for the stock radio. I haven't even updated to the new OTA radio yet.
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1. Dl ROM of choice and save to SD Card.
2. Backup SMS/MMS w/ SMS Backup+ and sync to your google acct.
3. Make sure your Contacts are Synced
4. Backup Apps w/ TiBu or the like
5. Boot to recovery/CWM from Rom Mgr(if your current rom doesn't have the advanced shut down menu.)
6. Go to Backup/Restore and backup your current config
7. Go to Format System/Factory reset and run that
8. Go to Advanced and select Wipe Dalvik Cache
9. Go to Install zip from sd card> choose zip from sd card
10. Flash anything else that you're wanting/needing w/ that particular rom(some require flashing gapps)
11. Reboot System and complete setup like a new phone
12. DL TiBu or the like and restore apps
13. I can't think of anything else.
Aosp Gingerbread. Fastest, best stock gingerbread rom ever. Never made it past rc1; only problem is Bluetooth doesn't work. Which doesn't bother me one bit.
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I keep seeing people getting ripped for rooting business phones. I'm a self employed IT tech, and I use my phone for everything from remote access (RDP& TeamViewer) to mobile doc (Docs2Go) to social networking to business calls to gaming to kill time.
Would I be stupid to root this phone?
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1. Dl ROM of choice and save to SD Card.
2. Backup SMS/MMS w/ SMS Backup+ and sync to your google acct.
3. Make sure your Contacts are Synced
4. Backup Apps w/ TiBu or the like
5. Boot to recovery/CWM from Rom Mgr(if your current rom doesn't have the advanced shut down menu.)
6. Go to Backup/Restore and backup your current config
7. Go to Format System/Factory reset and run that
8. Go to Advanced and select Wipe Dalvik Cache
9. Go to Install zip from sd card> choose zip from sd card
10. Flash anything else that you're wanting/needing w/ that particular rom(some require flashing gapps)
11. Reboot System and complete setup like a new phone
12. DL TiBu or the like and restore apps
13. I can't think of anything else.
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Thanks Tx, I appreciate that. I have yet to flash a rom the "regular" way, that is, other than rom manager, with the exception of rooting, but that was rather automated, so having these step-by-steps is extremely helpful.
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ST3ALTHPSYCH0 said:
I keep seeing people getting ripped for rooting business phones. I'm a self employed IT tech, and I use my phone for everything from remote access (RDP& TeamViewer) to mobile doc (Docs2Go) to social networking to business calls to gaming to kill time.
Would I be stupid to root this phone?
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Not necessarily. There was a recent thread where someone was having problems with sound quality on his phone, which he depended on heavily for work, but i suspected other factors involved with that.
I'll tell you right now, this here phone in my hands is work-ready. Rooted and flashed a stable non-stock rom.
If anything, maybe if you had a backup phone just as a CYA type of thing for the process and a "burn-in" period, in case you run into some speedbumps along the way.
I mean, if you plan on going off hard on the flashing thing, then just due to the shear number of rom changes, something is bound to get a little goofy on the software end, but not anything that isn't fixable, for the most part.
When you start getting careless with things like partitioning or radio flashing, then you could run into some serious problems.
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A few points:
-it's very, very hard to brick your phone by rooting and flashing roms, so if you're stressing about that at all, don't. It only gets dicey is you are flashing radios via fastboot or messing with ENG-OFF. You don't need to do either of those things, and you won’t either accidentally.
-tinkering and trying many roms is very easy. If you do a nandroid backup (aka a backup with Clockworkmod recovery), you’re golden. It takes about 5 minutes to do a backup. If you want to come back to the previous rom, simply restore in Clockworkmod recovery. EVERYTHING will restore as it was before. After you do a backup, boot up and rename the backup file to something meaningful, like “Dilligaf5-20110534”. Make sure there are no spaces in the name, or Clockworkmod recovery will upchuck. The backup files are on your SD card in the \clockworkmod\backup directory. I have a collection of 10 backup roms. I can restore any one of them in 5 minutes with all my settings intact.
-if you are going from froyo to froyo or gb to gb, you can used Titanium backup to backup and restore sms/mms. Just backup “dialer storage”. When you get your new rom up, restore dialer storage. You will have to reboot after you restore in order to see your sms/mms messages.
-buy Setcpu and root explorer.
-checkout the rom kitchen. You can do lots of neat stuff like changing the battery meter, status bar, icons, fonts, animation, and boot animation. http://uot.dakra.lt/
-AOSP roms like CM7 and others are very fast and have good battery life, but some the apps are not as feature-rich. For example e-mail is missing a lot of options.
-GB roms (like LeeDroid and AR) are nice, but to me, GB doesn’t really have that much to offer over Froyo. LeeDroid has a great kernel and battery life. It also has a really nice call recorder. From a UI perspective
-My favorite rom is Dilligaf 2.0. You should give it a try.
Since I can't delete, just ignore this post. Lol
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Thanks a abunch guys!
I knew it was really a matter of "when" not "if" (My iPhone was JB when I bought it.... A guy wanted it unlocked, so I JB it for him and then saw that it was 3.1.3 before they had released the exploit for that baseband, so I bought it _CHEAP_)
Anyway, Looks like I have a project for this weekend
Since this is my thread, I'll feel free to derail it a bit.....
Any reviewsa on MIUI? I like Sense, but mostly just b/c I think that HTC's clock widget is >*, and I see that MIUI's widget is very similar.
You could just buy beautiful widgets and use it on whatever rom you prefer.
Ultimate Droid.
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I rooted and tried several ROMs. RCMixHD and TB Fusion were both nice, but the keyboard seemed to lag and freexe a good bit on those. Inspired Ace is the ROM I am currently on. I used the battery calibration technique used here to maximize my battery usage. For the battery history section of that thread be sure to grab this app, as the method listed there is not coded into GB ROMs. I have flashed ROMs once or twice and they have not booted, but a simple battery pull and boot to clockworkmod recovery (turn on with power and volume down buttons pressed at the same time then scroll to recovery) to wipe and reflash worked fine.
Well, I now officially have no warranty
Waiting for my SD contents to copy back over, and I think I'll start with Inspired Ace.
I welcome recommendations, but for now I think I'll stick with Sense ROMs.
Okay, I used to love this phone. I got it back in Feb when it was relatively new to where I live and the first thing I did was root and flash it with CM. This gave me a serious case of ORD and I couldn't stop trying out new ROMs on my phone. It was amazing! And fun! And everything was quick. Couple months down the line, I lost my phone and quickly replaced it with another Nexus S. More flashing ensued.
So, now 8 months down the line, I find myself getting a little bored with the constant flashing and I've been looking for something that will be stable. Now, here's the problem, after the first flash of a ROM everything seems super zippy! And it fills me with hope and brings a tear to my eye. But, then I start actually using my phone...load 25 apps...everything's fine...50 apps...going strong...75 apps, 4 days in...uh oh, OH HAI LAG!...*phone makes a trollface*...100 apps, a week in...the lag is so bad I can't do any gaming...my favourite game Muffin Knight makes me want to chuck my phone across the room; it lags so much that by the time I think I've got me a sweet muffin, I'm somehow teleported to a little rat's back. This is the case with any ROM - CM7, MIUI, several AOSP ROMs like Oxygen, CO2, SuperAOSP/OSR, NexusBread. All of them slow down after several days.
What causes this? Can it be a hardware issue? Do I have a faulty phone? Could it be I flashed too much? I never really was one for overclocking, my phone doesn't handle it well for the long haul. Is it Android's memory management that is poor? Oh, and while we're on the topic. What the heck is "True Multitasking"? Does it mean, when I'm playing a game, I get a call and when I hang up, the game has restarted? Or I load a page on my browser and when I go back it has to reload? Or pausing any game and pressing home to do something else, then coming back to it to see it has to restart? I don't think my phone can handle more than two tasks well.
Anyway, at this point, what do the XDAliens think I should do? A hard reset? Maybe format my SD card too? Or what else can I do? Any suggestions would help.
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Okay, I used to love this phone. I got it back in Feb when it was relatively new to where I live and the first thing I did was root and flash it with CM. This gave me a serious case of ORD and I couldn't stop trying out new ROMs on my phone. It was amazing! And fun! And everything was quick. Couple months down the line, I lost my phone and quickly replaced it with another Nexus S. More flashing ensued.
So, now 8 months down the line, I find myself getting a little bored with the constant flashing and I've been looking for something that will be stable. Now, here's the problem, after the first flash of a ROM everything seems super zippy! And it fills me with hope and brings a tear to my eye. But, then I start actually using my phone...load 25 apps...everything's fine...50 apps...going strong...75 apps, 4 days in...uh oh, OH HAI LAG!...*phone makes a trollface*...100 apps, a week in...the lag is so bad I can't do any gaming...my favourite game Muffin Knight makes me want to chuck my phone across the room; it lags so much that by the time I think I've got me a sweet muffin, I'm somehow teleported to a little rat's back. This is the case with any ROM - CM7, MIUI, several AOSP ROMs like Oxygen, CO2, SuperAOSP/OSR, NexusBread. All of them slow down after several days.
What causes this? Can it be a hardware issue? Do I have a faulty phone? Could it be I flashed too much? I never really was one for overclocking, my phone doesn't handle it well for the long haul. Is it Android's memory management that is poor? Oh, and while we're on the topic. What the heck is "True Multitasking"? Does it mean, when I'm playing a game, I get a call and when I hang up, the game has restarted? Or I load a page on my browser and when I go back it has to reload? Or pausing any game and pressing home to do something else, then coming back to it to see it has to restart? I don't think my phone can handle more than two tasks well.
Anyway, at this point, what do the XDAliens think I should do? A hard reset? Maybe format my SD card too? Or what else can I do? Any suggestions would help.
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wipe your dalvik and try to reboot at least once a day,
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wipe your dalvik and try to reboot at least once a day,
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Oh, I do do that! As part of my troubleshooting. But, it doesn't help much. Maybe an hour or so of seemingly lag free use. But, once I've used a bunch of apps it's back to Lagville. So yeah, no go, at least not when it come to Muffin Knight (Lol, this has become my benchmark)
EDIT: I should also mention, I've tried moving a lot of my heavy apps to SD.
technically since nexus has internal memory shouldnt be as fast as "normal" internal memory? ie internal memory and SD space? But 100 apps that is quite a bit. Shouldnt be aproblem
So, no one else experiences lags after a few days of running all their apps? Maybe once they cross the 70 apps mark. No stutters in scrolling or gaming? No one else notices Android's poor multi-tasking? Poor app load times, poor widget response times?
I'm trying to figure out if it's just my phone or whether this happens to everyone.
EDIT: Maybe I should revert back to stock and if the lags continue, I could take it in to the shop under warranty?
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So, no one else experiences lags after a few days of running all their apps? Maybe once they cross the 70 apps mark. No stutters in scrolling or gaming? No one else notices Android's poor multi-tasking? Poor app load times, poor widget response times?
I'm trying to figure out if it's just my phone or whether this happens to everyone.
EDIT: Maybe I should revert back to stock and if the lags continue, I could take it in to the shop under warranty?
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No, No and No - > 100 apps - stock rom. Everything remains smooth and has for a long time. I reboot the phone maybe twice a month and never force clear the dalvik cache.
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No, No and No - > 100 apps - stock rom. Everything remains smooth and has for a long time. I reboot the phone maybe twice a month and never force clear the dalvik cache.
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Thanks for the reply. I clear the dalvik ALL the time for flashing a new ROM or when my current one is feeling laggy. Maybe I shouldn't have. EDIT: I'm curious...Why do you not clear the Dalvik? Just because you've never had to?
Have you ever flashed other ROMs? Maybe bare AOSP ROMs like DevNull? Any issues there?
I'm thinking I should reset, reformat and return to stock...
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Thanks for the reply. I clear the dalvik ALL the time for flashing a new ROM or when my current one is feeling laggy. Maybe I shouldn't have. EDIT: I'm curious...Why do you not clear the Dalvik? Just because you've never had to?
Have you ever flashed other ROMs? Maybe bare AOSP ROMs like DevNull? Any issues there?
I'm thinking I should reset, reformat and return to stock...
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I don't see a reason to clear the Dalvik cache on a regular basis - that advice just doesn't make any sense. After you clear it, it just gets rebuilt when you reboot anyway, and just leads to a really long start up time. Unless you are installing / uninstalling a massive amount of apps and you feel the cache is far too large it just doesn't make sense. Between rom flashes, sure. But as a regular thing to help performance? That just doesn't hold water for me.
I flashed CM7 back around Feb / March but stability was an issue at that point still so I went back to stock. Since then I've never had any issues with running a rooted stock rom on the Nexus S so I never had any interest in most of the custom roms (outside of a few AOSP roms I built myself) as they all seem to introduce little bugs for the most part and I have little use for the "tweaks" and customizations included in most.
Ok, ill say it...Why the hell do you need that many apps. You can't possibly use them all. Delete the ones you don't need....
Anyways, wipe everything when you flash the rom, and don't wipe anything after that. Reboot every other day or so. That's what works for me but I have like 20 apps ..
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Igotsanevo4g said:
Ok, ill say it...Why the hell do you need that many apps. You can't possibly use them all. Delete the ones you don't need....
Anyways, wipe everything when you flash the rom, and don't wipe anything after that. Reboot every other day or so. That's what works for me but I have like 20 apps ..
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he never said he had 100 separate apps...he just said after the 100th time running an app
Igotsanevo4g said:
Ok, ill say it...Why the hell do you need that many apps. You can't possibly use them all. Delete the ones you don't need....
Anyways, wipe everything when you flash the rom, and don't wipe anything after that. Reboot every other day or so. That's what works for me but I have like 20 apps ..
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That's not very helpful. I should be able to have as many apps as I need. A certain competing platform allows this. Anyway, I do use most of my apps. Maybe not on a daily basis, but I want them around for when I need them.
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he never said he had 100 separate apps...he just said after the 100th time running an app
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No, I meant 100 apps.
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I don't see a reason to clear the Dalvik cache on a regular basis - that advice just doesn't make any sense. After you clear it, it just gets rebuilt when you reboot anyway, and just leads to a really long start up time. Unless you are installing / uninstalling a massive amount of apps and you feel the cache is far too large it just doesn't make sense. Between rom flashes, sure. But as a regular thing to help performance? That just doesn't hold water for me.
I flashed CM7 back around Feb / March but stability was an issue at that point still so I went back to stock. Since then I've never had any issues with running a rooted stock rom on the Nexus S so I never had any interest in most of the custom roms (outside of a few AOSP roms I built myself) as they all seem to introduce little bugs for the most part and I have little use for the "tweaks" and customizations included in most.
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Okay, I've already started afresh with CO2. Going to see how it goes. Kind of going slow on reloading my apps. Maybe I can figure out better at what point performance starts to suffer.
If things don't work out, I will follow your lead. Thanks again!
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Sounds like your memory is simply being used up by open/running apps. I would suggest going into settings -> applications -> development ->checkmark "stop app via long press".
When you are done using an app, hold the back button down. This will close the application and free up memory.
ka24e said:
Sounds like your memory is simply being used up by open/running apps. I would suggest going into settings -> applications -> development ->checkmark "stop app via long press".
When you are done using an app, hold the back button down. This will close the application and free up memory.
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that's the sole reason I've always steered clear of stock roms. That is my absolute favorite feature of CM & variants. I always long press every time I'm done with any app to close it
ka24e said:
Sounds like your memory is simply being used up by open/running apps. I would suggest going into settings -> applications -> development ->checkmark "stop app via long press".
When you are done using an app, hold the back button down. This will close the application and free up memory.
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But, there's a general consensus lately that task killers aren't good for Android. I'm thinking force killing apps would have the same effect. Also, if I have to do that just to get a reasonable experience, where does it leave Android's claim of "True Multitasking"?
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deejaylobo said:
But, there's a general consensus lately that task killers aren't good for Android. I'm thinking force killing apps would have the same effect. Also, if I have to do that just to get a reasonable experience, where does it leave Android's claim of "True Multitasking"?
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Android is a "True Multitasking" system, but also has limitation as others PC or Server.
So if you want good speed, keep your background app clearly is a easy way.
try running v6 supercharger. it should help your device cope a lot better with so many apps on your device. link here. run beta 6.3 with a balanced setting and if you want more performance at the cost of it aggressively closing superfluous apps, go aggressive. also try nitro lag nullifier and don't forget to remove the extra .pdf extension off of the end because it's a shell script (.sh)
Cache has been invented for the sole purpose of speeding up a system or service. Forget about wiping your Dalvik cache and even the regular cache has its purpose on the phone. But that point has been cleared already.
The Nexus has its limitations just like any other device. The RAM can only cope with so much apps, if you fill up your RAM, you'll get lag. It's just a point of being a little bit intelligent with your phone. Unless QC failed at Samsung and you have a faulty device, the Nexus should run really smoothly, regardless of how many apps you have installed (again, within the limitations of the internal memory). But having 50 apps open (just a plain example) will of course have its impact on the device, the same as it would on 'that competing platform'.
Reopening apps is superfast anyway so there really isn't a reason to keep too many of them open. I force close my apps all the time as well and never had it backfire on me, so I don't see how it would have a bad effect.
Of course you can always start playing around with another ROM or overclocking the phone just to get a little bit more juice from it. I'm running on 1.3Ghz at the moment and must say that it improves the general experiences and reduces lag somewhat as well.
Good luck,
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If it had 1gb ram you would be fine..m.
In the life of this phone, I have easily flashed a good 15-20 different Roms onto the device and used most of them for a decent amount of time. NO ROM has ever worked very good at all. The best luck I have ever had were with a couple like Valhalla and Octane that would work pretty decent for a couple months then the problems would always return in full force. Again, EVERY single rom has gotten extremely annoying problems eventually. I have had it with this phone.
I don't know what I could be missing here, as I have tried multiple times to start completely fresh from stock and wipe everything before and after a flash, but nothing works. The current ROM was installed after an sd card format, full wipe, wiped caches, etc... Right now it will randomly exit the messaging app frequently, has wifi problems, apps force close, random restarts, it often won't upload/download things because it says it doesn't have an sd card, and to top it off, CWM is having problems and will get stuck on a screen with just a picture and no words.
This phone is borderline unusable for its stability and other issues and I am tired of trying to make it work well. I am not even new to flashing roms, but this phone is a headache. Someone, please help me figure out what is wrong with this phone.
Even with these problems and my long rant here, this would still be a great phone and should have plenty of life left in it. I had minimal problems with my old SGS Captivate that I had before this, so I don't know what is wrong. Perhaps a piece of hardware is faulty? I would highly doubt that. I need help!
Use the GB Starter Pack. If you are using Titanium to put everything back, it may lead to problems. I remember a couple of times where restoring all my apks and data with Titanium caused a soft boot or force close cycle.
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I stopped using TB a long time ago. That would not be the problem.
What ROM are you currently using right now. Maybe see if you can take a log of it to find out why the things Messaging might not be working?
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GreyDark said:
What ROM are you currently using right now. Maybe see if you can take a log of it to find out why the things Messaging might not be working?
From my tank of a Galaxy S 4G. Seen more floor than a rookie lightweight in wrestling.
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It is currently on the non-themed Octane 3.0. I don't have the phone next to me right now, but can you explain the process for taking a log?
It sounds like you've wasted too much time trying flashing roms and trying to make the piece of crap perfect than actually using the phone. As much as I hate the stock of this phone, I will suggest using the one click kj6 heimdall then root it and voodoo no tweaks. Also start from fresh and try octane v3.0 w/o tweaks or kernal updates.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/11930-learn-to-logcat-like-a-pro/
I hope that helps you out. There are some apps on the market like CatLog and aLogcat that also take logs if the guide doesn't work for you.
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It sounds like you've wasted too much time trying flashing roms and trying to make the piece of crap perfect than actually using the phone. As much as I hate the stock of this phone, I will suggest using the one click kj6 heimdall then root it and voodoo no tweaks. Also start from fresh and try octane v3.0 w/o tweaks or kernal updates.
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Im not trying to make it perfect at all. I am just trying to make it usable. It is extremely annoying when all you want to do is create a message but the app constantly force closes no matter what you do. The dialer has had the same closing problem also. Or the frequent rebooting multiple times a day. Like I said, I have had a few good flashes, but they only last for a few months until the problems come back.
To me, it seems as if though you are having some cache problems. Start fresh. Flash to froyo and try. If that doesn't work, then take your phone to t-mobile, because that is a hardware problem. I have been using the same rom for a month or two now (latest beta version of my AOSP Style) and I haven't had a single fc. I have even used processor tweaks and whatnot. SO before you cuss this phone out, I suggest you try my solution, it is guaranteed to work.
Oh yeah, as air said, it might actually be a hardware problem.
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To me, it seems as if though you are having some cache problems. Start fresh. Flash to froyo and try. If that doesn't work, then take your phone to t-mobile, because that is a hardware problem. I have been using the same rom for a month or two now (latest beta version of my AOSP Style) and I haven't had a single fc. I have even used processor tweaks and whatnot. SO before you cuss this phone out, I suggest you try my solution, it is guaranteed to work.
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I have flashed back to froyo already, unfortunately. And there isn't a contract on the phone anyway. Do you know what piece of hardware would cause this though?
Not really sure, but if you are back to stock, I'd try to exchange it for another phone. I've had this phone since June (also not on contract), and I haven't had any of the problems you've had. Yes, I do need to reboot my phone every once in a while because bluetooth sticks and won't come on, but that's about it.
Usually, after I flash a rom and restore my programs/theme, I'll go back into cwm, wipe cache, wipe, dalvik, fix permissions, and then reboot and let the phone sit for a while. That usually takes care of making sure everything works right.
As a flashaholic of sorts, I find that nothing feels better than a clean ROM install. It is very noticeable to me going from a ROM I've used for a week or two to wiping everything and doing a fresh install of the same, or different, ROM. Even after I restore all my backed up apps and everything I can tell a noticeable difference in performance and responsiveness. With this in mind I have two questions... Why does this happen? And what does everyone do to avoid this sluggishness?
me, i never wipe, and im known for dirty flashing and not wiping. ive never ever wiped my nexus 5, since day one. yet, i bet you that i have the fastest nexus 5 around. i do keep my phone up on a daily manor. im constantly cleaning it of "junk". oh, and i reboot at least once daily. the reboot keeps it from corrupting files.
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me, i never wipe, and im known for dirty flashing and not wiping. ive never ever wiped my nexus 5, since day one. yet, i bet you that i have the fastest nexus 5 around. i do keep my phone up on a daily manor. im constantly cleaning it of "junk". oh, and i reboot at least once daily. the reboot keeps it from corrupting files.
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I curious if you would still notice a difference if you did a fresh install. I'm not saying my device gets horribly slow by any means because I only realize it after I do a clean flash. What do you use to get rid of junk?
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I curious if you would still notice a difference if you did a fresh install. I'm not saying my device gets horribly slow by any means because I only realize it after I do a clean flash. What do you use to get rid of junk?
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a root file explorer, but ive been with android since the very beginning and generally learned to keep junk away from my phones/tablets, junk apps as well. and no, a fresh install isnt any different, unless youre the type of person that accumulates junk.
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a root file explorer, but ive been with android since the very beginning and generally learned to keep junk away from my phones/tablets, junk apps as well. and no, a fresh install isnt any different, unless youre the type of person that accumulates junk.
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I don't have any junk apps. I just use your standard issue ones. I don't have any games or anything either, only what I need. I don't quite understand what you consider "junk" that you'd be removing via a file explorer.
For speed I just give my N5 some LSD!
Its just the nature of android or a PC. The more files, apps, and stuff you have the slower it gets. More apps also mean more ram and more things running in the background.
How I deal with it? I flash a custom kernel and clean my cache, files, apps, and stuff I don't use, every once in awhile. Also the more stuff you have syncing effects performance also.
But don't get too caught up on making your nexus 5 fast and just enjoy it. Because it will become an obsession.
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