Database Info

Does Samsung Know When You Root Your Phone?

I called Samsung today to get my Stereo Headset replaced and the guy said my Nexus S 4g is already out of Warranty. Now of course i didn't tell him i rooted my phone but wtf I just bought it 12/21/2011. Anyone?

Maybe they were BLUFFING, because lots people buy this phone is because this is Google's son, pure blood of android, we can say 9 of 10 nexus were unlocked and rooted
So it won't be surprised that they assuming you unlocked and rooted it...
Even somehow nexus s has background transmission to them and tell them status, how can they possibly know that unlocked rooted phone is yours?
Sent from my Nexus S using xda premium

qtwrk said:
Maybe they were blushing, because lots people buy this phone is because this is Google's son, pure blood of android, we can say 9 of 10 nexus were unlocked and rooted
So it won't be surprised that they assuming you unlocked and rooted it...
Even somehow nexus s has background transmission to them and tell them status, how can they possibly know that unlocked rooted phone is yours?
Sent from my Nexus S using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah your right, they were probably "bluffing" and thats true lol 9 out of 10 Nexi 4g were rooted lol

treyweez11 said:
Yeah your right, they were probably "bluffing" and thats true lol 9 out of 10 Nexi 4g were rooted lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes yes , BLUFFING, that's the word i wanted to say , i just heard it sometimes from movies , so i don't know how to split it
this is embarrasing

qtwrk said:
yes yes , BLUFFING, that's the word i wanted to say , i just heard it sometimes from movies , so i don't know how to split it
this is embarrasing
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
LMFAO its all good

I don't know if Samsung can tell, but since we're talking about Google Experience devices, I know Motorola can tell if you've ever unlocked the bootloader on your Xoom. If you boot a Xoom into the bootloader's fastboot mode and type "fastboot getvar all", there's a variable there called "IsWarrantyVoid". Out of the factory, it's set to "no", but as soon as you unlock the bootloader for the first time, it changes to "yes". Once IsWarrantyVoid is set to yes, no amount of re-locking will ever get it to change.
The Nexus S doesn't have this fastboot variable, but there could be something stored in the bootloader somewhere that we can't see; something that can tell Samsung if the bootloader has ever been unlocked before. Sounds kinda fishy to me.

my point is , even they know the phone is unlock unrooted , how can they possibly know it is your phone ?
just like 10 people buy a same phone at same time in same place and 9 of them unlocked unroot , and the one who didn't unlock , didn't root calls for help and be told his warranty is avoided ...
or in USA you buy a phone need to binding with your personal ID ?
phone's IMEI matches with personal ID ????

I'm pretty sure it will show up even if you relock it. I unrooted my phone once and it still displayed the unlocked padlock on the bootloader screen.

qtwrk said:
my point is , even they know the phone is unlock unrooted , how can they possibly know it is your phone ?
just like 10 people buy a same phone at same time in same place and 9 of them unlocked unroot , and the one who didn't unlock , didn't root calls for help and be told his warranty is avoided ...
or in USA you buy a phone need to binding with your personal ID ?
phone's IMEI matches with personal ID ????
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't think they would know it's your phone but they can know if you've unlocked and relocked the bootloader to skirt the warranty issue.
Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk

??????????????
WFT..???
he said "I called Samsung" ???? call ??? like telephone call ???????? they can see through you through telephone line ????? or there is other meaning of word "call" ????

treyweez11 said:
I called Samsung today to get my Stereo Headset replaced and the guy said my Nexus S 4g is already out of Warranty. Now of course i didn't tell him i rooted my phone but wtf I just bought it 12/21/2011. Anyone?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Maybe you are actually out of warranty... did you buy it *new* 12/21/2011?
*if you didn't wipe /system and /boot it is NOT A FULL WIPE* (relax, it's a signature)

I think even if they do track the nexus's that are rooted or stock they cannot identify your device without checking the IMIE or something ...

irizwan said:
I think even if they do track the nexus's that are rooted or stock they cannot identify your device without checking the IMIE or something ...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yeah ... you clear it what i can't state clear in 1 page

Yeah i called Samsung as in on the phone and this forum just got tooo technical for me lol

Rooting voids warranty? yes?

I have purchased k900 recently and I want to root my mobile but I know it will void the warranty. So the question is how to avail the warranty? Do they really check whether the device is rooted or not? Can we just unroot the device and return back to the stock firmware and avail the warranty? I heard latest phones have some mechanism to detect whether the phone is rooted or not and even if we unroot the device they will still know that it was rooted at some point of time. Is it true?
I have already posted this thread in the lenovo k900 sub forum but realised that this question is more of a general sense.

Do anybody have something to say about it?

In some devices yes and in some no
supdup said:
I have purchased k900 recently and I want to root my mobile but I know it will void the warranty. So the question is how to avail the warranty? Do they really check whether the device is rooted or not? Can we just unroot the device and return back to the stock firmware and avail the warranty? I heard latest phones have some mechanism to detect whether the phone is rooted or not and even if we unroot the device they will still know that it was rooted at some point of time. Is it true?
I have already posted this thread in the lenovo k900 sub forum but realised that this question is more of a general sense.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
In some devices its true that they will come to know.. They come to know from the bootloader.
I m using HTC so i can tell you on that.. after rooting it shows unlocked in bootloader mode.. It can be locked again.. For that a RUU is needed which is stock rom..

From what I read the one who for sure do it is Samsung on the Note 3 (And I think other models but not sure which) they have what's called Knox 0x0 and when you root it it trips it to show Knox 0x1 and as of now I haven't seen a way to undo a tripped Knox but there are ways to root now without tripping Knox but I rooted my Note 3 and tripped Knox but don't really care Lol. But a tripped know will void warranty.

nexx2014 said:
From what I read the one who for sure do it is Samsung on the Note 3 (And I think other models but not sure which) they have what's called Knox 0x0 and when you root it it trips it to show Knox 0x1 and as of now I haven't seen a way to undo a tripped Knox but there are ways to root now without tripping Knox but I rooted my Note 3 and tripped Knox but don't really care Lol. But a tripped know will void warranty.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you know whether trip knox is present in the lenovo devices, particularly in k900 model?

supdup said:
Do you know whether trip knox is present in the lenovo devices, particularly in k900 model?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I looked around really quick but i didnt see mention of the k900 having something similar to Samsungs Knox.

supdup said:
I have purchased k900 recently and I want to root my mobile but I know it will void the warranty. So the question is how to avail the warranty? Do they really check whether the device is rooted or not? Can we just unroot the device and return back to the stock firmware and avail the warranty? I heard latest phones have some mechanism to detect whether the phone is rooted or not and even if we unroot the device they will still know that it was rooted at some point of time. Is it true?
I have already posted this thread in the lenovo k900 sub forum but realised that this question is more of a general sense.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, rooting your device can void warranty, but you would need to be very unlucky. In most cases when you return your device there may be a fault with it and you can simply relock your phone and reflash stock rom before returning device. In other caes you may have bricked your device, i.e. your device does not work at all. This has happened to me and others and when I returned it they never checked. As I said, you would have to be very unlucky for them to void your warranty.....but it is the risk you take

33586439 21
supdup said:
I have purchased k900 recently and I want to root my mobile but I know it will void the warranty. So the question is how to avail the warranty? Do they really check whether the device is rooted or not? Can we just unroot the device and return back to the stock firmware and avail the warranty? I heard latest phones have some mechanism to detect whether the phone is rooted or not and even if we unroot the device they will still know that it was rooted at some point of time. Is it true?
I have already posted this thread in the lenovo k900 sub forum but realised that this question is more of a general sense.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My suggestion is: Just do it and forget about the possibility that you are going to need your warranty. On my own experience thinking about the warranty just makes Murphy's Law to come.

nexx2014 said:
I looked around really quick but i didnt see mention of the k900 having something similar to Samsungs Knox.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for looking arround. I guess knox is not present in my lenovo phone
Spartan Rises said:
Yes, rooting your device can void warranty, but you would need to be very unlucky. In most cases when you return your device there may be a fault with it and you can simply relock your phone and reflash stock rom before returning device. In other caes you may have bricked your device, i.e. your device does not work at all. This has happened to me and others and when I returned it they never checked. As I said, you would have to be very unlucky for them to void your warranty.....but it is the risk you take
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks. I am currently searching the stock row rom of my mobile.
jpvillabona said:
My suggestion is: Just do it and forget about the possibility that you are going to need your warranty. On my own experience thinking about the warranty just makes Murphy's Law to come.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
lol, being a lawyer i would agree to that

[Q] I need help with my Htc One M8 Verizon (Rooted)

I purchased a Verizon htc one m8 off some guy and i went home erased the phone a 2nd time and realized something called SuperSu was installed and i knew right then & there this fool gave sold me rooted phone so i click the app and pressed full unroot then restarted the phone the app was erased... Restarted the phone in bootloader mode or what ever and the top says Unlocked and S-off but no tampered sign and the software status says official so the questions i have are
1) Do i have to re root this phone in order to lock the bootloader and return to S-on?
2) Will re locking the bootloader or returning to S-on brick my device or any chance of bricking my device ?
3)If my software status says official is that good or bad ?
4) Will i be able to install future updates at all if i leave the device like it is now ?
Thnak you for taking your time to read this.

Why would you want to relock it? Learn how to do things this way and take advantage is the fact that you aren't locked down to Verizon's chains.

...
silver04v said:
Why would you want to relock it? Learn how to do things this way and take advantage is the fact that you aren't locked down to Verizon's chains.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well i pay 11 dollars for a warranty i need my warranty lol...

MH1994 said:
well i pay 11 dollars for a warranty i need my warranty lol...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Verizon doesnt care if its rooted or S-OFF.
If I have to send a phone back I send it with my own ROMS on them.
They have never said anything.
As well, I dont recommend turning S-On as you have a much greater chance of bricking the phone.
I would just leave it as it is... Well, actually... I would load my ROM

Well lol
scrosler said:
Verizon doesnt care if its rooted or S-OFF.
If I have to send a phone back I send it with my own ROMS on them.
They have never said anything.
As well, I dont recommend turning S-On as you have a much greater chance of bricking the phone.
I would just leave it as it is... Well, actually... I would load my ROM
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well software wise i think they would i mean if my software messed up it would be "my fault" lol...i dont think they would replace my phone

unlocking bootloader void warranty?

just bought a USA version. wants to know if unlocking bootloader void warranty? if so then I could just get a third party warranty from squaretrade or something

Unfortunately yes it would.
If you are fully familiar with rooting , hopefully you won't need a warranty
Sent from my MHA-AL00 using Tapatalk

Hello, i have this big doubt too, i will try new modded rom but i don't know if the warranty void is irreversible like samsung devices or i can just unroot and flash stock firmware and all return ok?
sorry for my bad english.
thanks for help

ROIDjoy said:
Unfortunately yes it would.
If you are fully familiar with rooting , hopefully you won't need a warranty
Sent from my MHA-AL00 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
can the bootloaded be relock? for resale purpose down the line. 90% of people don't know what rooting is and getting the bootloaded unlock warning everything time they turn on the phone my be a big turn off for them

eduardmc said:
can the bootloaded be relock? for resale purpose down the line. 90% of people don't know what rooting is and getting the bootloaded unlock warning everything time they turn on the phone my be a big turn off for them
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have not tried it myself but I know it is a very lengthy process.
Sent from my MHA-AL00 using Tapatalk

eduardmc said:
can the bootloaded be relock? for resale purpose down the line. 90% of people don't know what rooting is and getting the bootloaded unlock warning everything time they turn on the phone my be a big turn off for them
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i believe it can be done ...vise versa

eduardmc said:
can the bootloaded be relock? for resale purpose down the line. 90% of people don't know what rooting is and getting the bootloaded unlock warning everything time they turn on the phone my be a big turn off for them
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ROIDjoy said:
I have not tried it myself but I know it is a very lengthy process.
Sent from my MHA-AL00 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Bootloader is locked when you flash official firmware, so yes.

Bricked (unlocked) P20 Pro replaced under warranty (UK)

Guys
I managed to brick my P20 Pro flashing an update. The phone was unlocked and, according to Huawei), out of warranty but I chanced my arm and sent it back for a warranty repair as it would not switch on again. The replacement is in the post. I wont get to unlock the bootloader again unless they bypass Huawei but I get my phone back.
So don't lose hope if you brick your phone flashing, it's worth a punt at getting a warranty repair.

did you tell them you had tried flashing a different rom on it - if so you were very lucky

walkerx said:
did you tell them you had tried flashing a different rom on it - if so you were very lucky
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not that silly. Just said it's not turning on, as it wasnt.

maddoguk said:
I'm not that silly. Just said it's not turning on, as it wasnt.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
- at least they didn't work out you had tried flashing it as they try to claim once you unlock the device the warranty is void or there is no marker like there is on samsung devices.

walkerx said:
did you tell them you had tried flashing a different rom on it - if so you were very lucky
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
walkerx said:
- at least they didn't work out you had tried flashing it as they try to claim once you unlock the device the warranty is void or there is no marker like there is on samsung devices.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They only have the IMEI check, that should have flagged that the phone had been unlocked but guess they didn't check.
Under European law, thankfully we are still covered (just), unlocking the bootloader is not a reason to invalidate a warranty if the phone has a hardware fault within 6 months. Maybe they don't want that fight?

maddoguk said:
They only have the IMEI check, that should have flagged that the phone had been unlocked but guess they didn't check.
Under European law, thankfully we are still covered (just), unlocking the bootloader is not a reason to invalidate a warranty if the phone has a hardware fault within 6 months. Maybe they don't want that fight?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
if the consumer can prove there was a manufacturing fault that caused the problem they are entitled to a repair for to upto 6 years after purchase in england (5 years scotland). We are also covered if a standard update from a manufacturer causes our devices to fail because of the update.

How can you be out of warranty when the phone just came out? Lol

jaju123 said:
How can you be out of warranty when the phone just came out? Lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
because huawei void the warranty if you unlock the device

Just curious, what exactly were you trying to flash ?

mrabcx said:
Just curious, what exactly were you trying to flash ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
as per OP they were trying to flash an update manually.

walkerx said:
as per OP they were trying to flash an update manually.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've been flashing phones for years and very careful, but HRUpater failed part way through and bricked the phone. Would not turn on at all. It was probably hardware waiting to fail but too much of a coincidence.