Nexus 5 warranty replacement really new? - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey everyone,
I purchased the Nexus 5 back when it was first released. The other day I was using the phone and it all of a sudden rebooted, and became stuck in a boot loop. I called Google and they tried to help, but ended up they couldn't. They are replacing the phone, and the customer service agent told me it would be a brand new phone. He sent me a link to order the phone again, and I went through the process of ordering the phone, it gave an estimated delivery of 3 to 4 weeks. That was yesterday, and today I got an email stating it was shipped.
Since the delivery time went from 3 to 4 weeks to being delivered in 3 business days, this had me wondering if the replacements really brand new or refurbished? Anyone have any experience with returns that might know?

Its brand new.
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Shoops said:
Hey everyone,
I purchased the Nexus 5 back when it was first released. The other day I was using the phone and it all of a sudden rebooted, and became stuck in a boot loop. I called Google and they tried to help, but ended up they couldn't. They are replacing the phone, and the customer service agent told me it would be a brand new phone. He sent me a link to order the phone again, and I went through the process of ordering the phone, it gave an estimated delivery of 3 to 4 weeks. That was yesterday, and today I got an email stating it was shipped.
Since the delivery time went from 3 to 4 weeks to being delivered in 3 business days, this had me wondering if the replacements really brand new or refurbished? Anyone have any experience with returns that might know?
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It will be continued!
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Shoops said:
Hey everyone,
I purchased the Nexus 5 back when it was first released. The other day I was using the phone and it all of a sudden rebooted, and became stuck in a boot loop. I called Google and they tried to help, but ended up they couldn't. They are replacing the phone, and the customer service agent told me it would be a brand new phone. He sent me a link to order the phone again, and I went through the process of ordering the phone, it gave an estimated delivery of 3 to 4 weeks. That was yesterday, and today I got an email stating it was shipped.
Since the delivery time went from 3 to 4 weeks to being delivered in 3 business days, this had me wondering if the replacements really brand new or refurbished? Anyone have any experience with returns that might know?
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Are they requiring you to give them the original box and accessories from the defect unit in return for the replacement? Did they say that the replacement will come with new accessories? If not, then I'd assume its refurbished.
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The customer service rep told me to remove the phone from the new box and put the old one back in and ship it back. If its one thing I've learned over the years it is that just because the customer service says they ship new ones doesn't mean that it will necessarily happen that way. I was hoping someone who has had to do a replacement might chime in on their experience. Either way I will find out Monday.

Shoops said:
The customer service rep told me to remove the phone from the new box and put the old one back in and ship it back. If its one thing I've learned over the years it is that just because the customer service says they ship new ones doesn't mean that it will necessarily happen that way. I was hoping someone who has had to do a replacement might chime in on their experience. Either way I will find out Monday.
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I just sent mine in for warranty and they told me the same thing. The phone I received was new in the box. I put my old one back in its original box with original accessories and sent that one back. I ordered my replacement through the link in an email and got it within a week. I placed my order on the 3rd or so of this month. Sounds like yours will be new.

I had my Nexus 4 replaced last year, and then my Nexus 5 a month ago. Google doesn't deal with refurbs, they just send you brand new devices.

Received my replacement yesterday and it was indeed a brand new device. I also received the newer updated model with the larger speaker holes, and the quieter power and volume buttons. My original from release date had a lot of rattle to the volume and power buttons. So, in the end it all worked out for the better.

Based on my experience, it should be a brand new device. However once the production stops for the phone ( Like the Nexus 4) they start giving out refurbs.

eneka said:
Based on my experience, it should be a brand new device. However once the production stops for the phone ( Like the Nexus 4) they start giving out refurbs.
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Good point, makes sense.

eneka said:
Based on my experience, it should be a brand new device. However once the production stops for the phone ( Like the Nexus 4) they start giving out refurbs.
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Makes me wonder what they do with all the defective ones? I guess they fix them up and have them on standby for when production stops?

Shoops said:
Received my replacement yesterday and it was indeed a brand new device. I also received the newer updated model with the larger speaker holes, and the quieter power and volume buttons. My original from release date had a lot of rattle to the volume and power buttons. So, in the end it all worked out for the better.
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There is no updated model, however. Only variations.
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I ordered my Nexus brand new and it stated 3-4 weeks to ship and I received it 2 days later.
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It should be brand new but you have to wait long time. It's inconvenience.
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A refurb one
I bought my nexus 5 the first day it was available on google play store.
On July my phone suddenly turned off itself and never woke up, when i connected it to the charger, it was in a boot loop, i called google, they tried to troubleshoot me, but we ended up replacing it. They send me a brand new one and i was happy.
Unfortunately, last week i noticed some issues while making calls, i could listen the one i was talking with, but the other end couldn't hear me. I did some tests recording sounds with different apps, but when i reproduce them, i could only hear noise.
My speaker was apparently having problems, don't know if physical or software related, but i needed to call google assistance again. They drive me to make some tests, reboot it in safe mode, restore to factory defaults, but nothing helped. I read some articles and forums and this is a well known problem, but the rep @ google says they aren't aware of it.
In the end, they opted to replace my phone, but this time with a refurbished one, i'm afraid the phone they will send me, could have usage signs like having some scratches like a case a read in a forum. Mine was aesthetically perfect. Maybe they ran out of new phones so they started to warranty replace with refurbished ones...

juanfergc said:
I bought my nexus 5 the first day it was available on google play store.
On July my phone suddenly turned off itself and never woke up, when i connected it to the charger, it was in a boot loop, i called google, they tried to troubleshoot me, but we ended up replacing it. They send me a brand new one and i was happy.
Unfortunately, last week i noticed some issues while making calls, i could listen the one i was talking with, but the other end couldn't hear me. I did some tests recording sounds with different apps, but when i reproduce them, i could only hear noise.
My speaker was apparently having problems, don't know if physical or software related, but i needed to call google assistance again. They drive me to make some tests, reboot it in safe mode, restore to factory defaults, but nothing helped. I read some articles and forums and this is a well known problem, but the rep @ google says they aren't aware of it.
In the end, they opted to replace my phone, but this time with a refurbished one, i'm afraid the phone they will send me, could have usage signs like having some scratches like a case a read in a forum. Mine was aesthetically perfect. Maybe they ran out of new phones so they started to warranty replace with refurbished ones...
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Yes they only replace N5s with refurbished devices now. They are supposed to be in "as new" condition so if you notice any cosmetic damage you can send it back.

juanfergc said:
I bought my nexus 5 the first day it was available on google play store.
On July my phone suddenly turned off itself and never woke up, when i connected it to the charger, it was in a boot loop, i called google, they tried to troubleshoot me, but we ended up replacing it. They send me a brand new one and i was happy.
Unfortunately, last week i noticed some issues while making calls, i could listen the one i was talking with, but the other end couldn't hear me. I did some tests recording sounds with different apps, but when i reproduce them, i could only hear noise.
My speaker was apparently having problems, don't know if physical or software related, but i needed to call google assistance again. They drive me to make some tests, reboot it in safe mode, restore to factory defaults, but nothing helped. I read some articles and forums and this is a well known problem, but the rep @ google says they aren't aware of it.
In the end, they opted to replace my phone, but this time with a refurbished one, i'm afraid the phone they will send me, could have usage signs like having some scratches like a case a read in a forum. Mine was aesthetically perfect. Maybe they ran out of new phones so they started to warranty replace with refurbished ones...
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I just went through this myself. In terms of cosmetic issues, you likely have nothing to worry about. My refurb looked like brand new. Unfortunately, the original issue that it was returned to LG for (speaker issues) wasn't fixed by LG. So I'm now waiting on my 2nd refurb in a week.

bionemesis said:
I just went through this myself. In terms of cosmetic issues, you likely have nothing to worry about. My refurb looked like brand new. Unfortunately, the original issue that it was returned to LG for (speaker issues) wasn't fixed by LG. So I'm now waiting on my 2nd refurb in a week.
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I just sent in my old Nexus 5 that randomly shut off and got stuck on the boot screen and when trying to go through fast boot to recovery, the recovery was gone... nothing but a black screen.
I received a refurbished 32 gig to replace my old phone. Looks brand new, not a scratch on it. The process couldn't have been any easier.

I received two replacements the month of September, not were 403k, both sealed, with the usual screen protector on them. No signs of usage whatsoever, 100%mint. I bought the phone through Google BTW. I honestly think these are new...

vnvman said:
I received two replacements the month of September, not were 403k, both sealed, with the usual screen protector on them. No signs of usage whatsoever, 100%mint. I bought the phone through Google BTW. I honestly think these are new...
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@vnvman What do you mean by "not were 403k".. I know that this means that is manufactured in 3rd month of 2014. In fact i have this number on my S/N written on my box...did yo heard something bad about 403k shipment??
.. I bought it in online shop with good reputation in my country as completely new ..all tho i have yellow tint screen.
Could it be refurb:what:
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HTC UK Repair Centre delays

Hi All
Had to return my Sensation to HTC for repair, due to the dreaded unresponsive screen issue. They have now had my phone for 9 working days, and the on-line tracking status has not changed from 'We are currently testing your phone.' (which I think basically means the phone is sitting on a shelf waiting for an engineer).
Rang nealy every day, get a different story each time. Originally was told up to 7 working days for repair, then 7- 10 and now up to 14 days! This is in spite of the fact the warranty specifically states 5 working days as the target.
Anyone else had to return their phone? How long did it take to get it back?
Have written a letter demanding repair or replacement, sent on Friday recorded delivery to head office.
when i had to return my HTC HD, on both occaisions it took 8 days in total from having the phone picked up to delivery of repaired device.
Prehaps they are awaiting stock of parts due to it being a new device, or they have yet to find your issue. Usually the status changes to "in repair" when they have diagnosed what the fault is.
Thanks, but they have not said anything about requiring or being short on parts.
9th working day now since device was returned to them.
There have been some dreadful stories recently about delays at the service centre:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/18/htc_failed_support/
They had a link on the HTC UK Facebook page about this, dunno if its still there
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its the 9th working day today since they have had my sensation too! Very annoying!
Have you contacted them? What do they say?
Mods DELETE!
Pathetic isn't it?
They can't talk to the repair centre to find out the status! And they can't talk to each other, they use some IM software to communicate with each other.
Had many promised call backs, only one materialised.
According to their own warranty statement, they should repair within 5 days:
http://service.europe.htc.com/terms.aspx
1. Estimated turnover period
We estimate that we will normally be able to complete orders and return the units to most mainland addresses in the UK within 5 working days from receipt of the unit. Where the repair requires parts to be specially ordered or delivery to remote areas of the UK, or to other countries, this may take longer. HTC EU will endeavour to complete all orders within 5 working days from clearance of payment or warranty authorisation.
im very annoyed. just fake promises. they were meant to be good. F*K knows what happened to them now, but they just pi$$ me off.
should never have sent my device to them. i feel like going to Huntingdon to the repair centre, marching in, and grabbing my phone and coming back out!
They said they cant do a replacement as the device can be repaired!
I've wrote a letter asking for repair or replacement within 3 working days, as a timely repair/replacement is our right under the Sales of Goods Act.
Thats nothing! I sent SGS2 back for repairs and it took 40 days! believe me I contacted them continuously after the promised 14 day turn around! When I finally got it back it was so badly scratched I sent it back again for new housing, that took 8 days. Including postage times over 54 days without the device! Mobicity was the seller, I dont recommend them!
My letter which they received today seems to have made a difference, as status has now changed to ' We are repairing your phone.'
Well count me in on the HTC warranty issues.
I am still wondering why I should by a Sensation instead of the SGS2.
Ok, sit down ..... my HD2 has been in repair since the end of March.
It has been returned 3 times since it was never working like it should and now last week Friday I got a refurbished one.
Now the refurbished ones keypad doesn't light up on one side which is really annoying, so I wonder what they will do now? Will they repair the refurbished one and keep me another month without it?
It's not only that but the communication and the handling of the procedure is pathetic. Everytime you get someone else on the line you get another story.
Also HTC says that the complete repair didn't take long because it were 3 seperate ones. According to me 3 months without a working phone is 3 months periode. And it is not that it is about a cracked or broken screen, so there is no debate about warranty or not.
This one is amusing to read but unfortunately the sad truth, I also posted my experience.
http://happyemergency.tumblr.com/post/6777171158/5-months-of-customer-service-hell-with-htc
What a great read, disappointing but very good.
What are your top tips if anyone else is stuck in this situation?
Jasand said:
What a great read, disappointing but very good.
What are your top tips if anyone else is stuck in this situation?
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Well lets say that I have had to deal with those situations on a professional level in my past role and infact I learned alot by doing this.
There is one webpage that you need to read and use in your advantage.
For us EU people you need to know your EU customer rights.
Not alot of people or even big companies know (or want to know) this!
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:31999L0044:EN:NOT
You will find some interesting stuff in it like acceptable repair time etc etc.
This warranty stuff applies to all consumer goods, not even electronic stuff!
I write everything down, like name, date and time and what has been said.
If the thing is taking way to long you ask them to open up the online ticket
Like this http://contactus.europe.htc.com/wFrmMailLogin.aspx
They need to open it up for you. It will not work untill they change something in their system!
By having that you can leave a comment with date/time etc and there is no way that they can tell you stuff which isn't right because afterwards you can point them at this log.
Also point them to that EU law it might help.
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My letter which they received today seems to have made a difference, as status has now changed to ' We are repairing your phone.'
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Well after 13 working days of HTC having the Device and telling me we are currently testing your phone.
3 complaints filled in
2 Escalations
i get a call from the supervisor.
The repair Center have lost my device. MY BRAND NEW UNMARKED UNSCRATCHED Sensation. and they have no idea where it is. it was signed for by HTC engineer when UPS delivered it but from then they have no idea.
now they have no sensations in stock at the repair center. so i either wait but they dont know how long. or take an alternative phone, as sensation was top dog, all alternative phones will be lower spec. i asked for an EVO 3d but as it isnt released i cant have that.
but they do have to provide me with a brand new device.
lukesan said:
Well count me in on the HTC warranty issues.
I am still wondering why I should by a Sensation instead of the SGS2.
Ok, sit down ..... my HD2 has been in repair since the end of March.
It has been returned 3 times since it was never working like it should and now last week Friday I got a refurbished one.
Now the refurbished ones keypad doesn't light up on one side which is really annoying, so I wonder what they will do now? Will they repair the refurbished one and keep me another month without it?
It's not only that but the communication and the handling of the procedure is pathetic. Everytime you get someone else on the line you get another story.
Also HTC says that the complete repair didn't take long because it were 3 seperate ones. According to me 3 months without a working phone is 3 months periode. And it is not that it is about a cracked or broken screen, so there is no debate about warranty or not.
This one is amusing to read but unfortunately the sad truth, I also posted my experience.
http://happyemergency.tumblr.com/post/6777171158/5-months-of-customer-service-hell-with-htc
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That's a shame here in sweden if you send you phone back 3 times within 3 years for the same problem they will
Refund full price or give you a new phone, and if you have 4 different problems within that 3 years then the same money back or new phone
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Poker gypsy said:
That's a shame here in sweden if you send you phone back 3 times within 3 years for the same problem they will
Refund full price or give you a new phone, and if you have 4 different problems within that 3 years then the same money back or new phone
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Rang up the HTC Care Team today. Because they lost my Vodafone branded device. They have decided to send me a brand new unopened unbranded Sensation. which i would receive in 3 working days also
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=185326
a free Bluetooth headset as compensation.
well glad that should be sorted, and will update when i receive it
also i will get a letter confirming what happened and a fresh warranty from the date i receive my device
OP:
I sent my sensation back to HTC two weeks because of the screen issue, but mostly because of a faulty earphone jack.
Yesterday the phone came back, after 16 days and guess what?? They didn't fix the earphone jack!!!
So I rang them, they apologised and asked me to send my phone back, which I did this morning!!
WTF HTC!!!?? Get your s**t together!

[Q] RMA'd

Hey guys,
Sorry if you've seen alot of posts like this. I've tired to look around for information and I couldn't get a clear answer. My issue is:
I just got the Nexus 5, and its loaded with green stuck pixels, so I called Google Customer support to see if I could get an exchange. They told me about the RMA process. I was sent a link to re-order the phone, with a shipping time of '3-4 weeks' mind you. But my main question that no one answered for me was simple... Do I get a brand new retail model? With new box, charger and cable? or do i get a replacement model similar to Apple. Can someone help me out and let me the answer to this.
You get a brand new phone with box and accessories.
Since this is the first post I've seen on rma, I think you have more answers than anyone else. But I'm going to be watching just on case I run into any issues.
If it's like the Nexus 4 and Nexus 7, you get a brand new phone if you have an issue in the 12 month warranty. Only if it's bought from the Play Store, obviously.
This phone just came out. How wil they find a refurbished for you lol of course you will get brand new.
Just because a device is brand new doesn't mean that a company hasn't made 'service' models for replacement... I.E Apple..
Let me know how it goes please. I've just noticed 7 or 8 dead pixels (black) dotted around my screen. I'm gonna call up tomorrow and see what they say.
Just sent the phone back to be RMA'd. Google paid for the shipping, used the box that it came in. I'm really ticked off though. I honestly can't believe that Google doesn't have any phones set a side for defects or customer issues. Its crazy that now I have to wait 3-4 weeks to get my replacements device. I'm not saying that I'm more important than folks who ordered the device later or anything, but geez. I am happy though I'm getting a brand new device (I hope, the jury is still out if it will be brand new , we can only go off what google has done in the past with other RMA's). Google, there has to be a better way...
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Just sent the phone back to be RMA'd. Google paid for the shipping, used the box that it came in. I'm really ticked off though. I honestly can't believe that Google doesn't have any phones set a side for defects or customer issues. Its crazy that now I have to wait 3-4 weeks to get my replacements device. I'm not saying that I'm more important than folks who ordered the device later or anything, but geez. I am happy though I'm getting a brand new device (I hope, the jury is still out if it will be brand new , we can only go off what google has done in the past with other RMA's). Google, there has to be a better way...
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You gonna get a new device for sure.
I'm RMAing S4 GE due to hardware issues second time today
michael871410 said:
Just sent the phone back to be RMA'd. Google paid for the shipping, used the box that it came in. I'm really ticked off though. I honestly can't believe that Google doesn't have any phones set a side for defects or customer issues. Its crazy that now I have to wait 3-4 weeks to get my replacements device. I'm not saying that I'm more important than folks who ordered the device later or anything, but geez. I am happy though I'm getting a brand new device (I hope, the jury is still out if it will be brand new , we can only go off what google has done in the past with other RMA's). Google, there has to be a better way...
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When I've done replacements in the past (and yes, replacements during the 15-day return period are new devices), I've waited until the replacement device arrived before sending back the first unit. Did they tell you to send in your device immediately? That's odd, because they place a hold on your credit card to be sure you send the original back once they've sent the replacement--doesn't make much sense to place a hold if you send back the original first.
Yea, I was told the same. But I figured since I was off today, might as well get it done. I have a phone I can use until then
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Yea, I was told the same. But I figured since I was off today, might as well get it done. I have a phone I can use until then
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Gotcha. I've preferred to wait just to make sure the replacement isn't worse than the original.
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I thought the same. But I figured with all the stuck pixels. I'll take my chances. I want to be happy for 399 or 450 with tax and shipping out of pocket.
LG should have it figured out by now. A couple pixels on 50 inch screen, ok I get it ... It's the type of technology. But come on. The display is 5 inches. That's a small slice from a T.V. And Apple is no different. Same issues with pixels. I don't want to watch a movie, or look at a photo with a bright green dot in the corner or center of the screen.
michael871410 said:
LG should have it figured out by now. A couple pixels on 50 inch screen, ok I get it ... It's the type of technology. But come on. The display is 5 inches. That's a small slice from a T.V. And Apple is no different. Same issues with pixels. I don't want to watch a movie, or look at a photo with a bright green dot in the corner or center of the screen.
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I called in today about stuck pixels on my phone too. I didn't get an RMA email yet though. So basically you get a link and you just order a phone from the Play Store as if you were buying for the first time?
DanRyb said:
I called in today about stuck pixels on my phone too. I didn't get an RMA email yet though. So basically you get a link and you just order a phone from the Play Store as if you were buying for the first time?
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when I rma'ed by nexus4 that was how it was. The link bring you to a checkout page in google (play or wallet i forgot) and you can select shipping as well which I believe is no extra cost (i picked two day)

Class-action lawsuit targets LG over legendary G4, V10 bootloop issues

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...ets-lg-over-legendary-g4-v10-bootloop-issues/
About freaking time!
I will never buy buy another LG device again, every LG device I have owned has had at least 2 to 3 fatal flaws.
On the case of LGV10 I have experienced: Overheating, Failed Finger Print Readers, Image Retention/Burn in and finally the dreaded boot loop of death that is very real and common to ALL LGV10's and going back as far the G4.
I guess I was one of the lucky ones. Haven't had many of those issues. Only the image retention but since I started using the Blue Filter app, no more image retention. Been using this phone for almost a year and a half now. Did switch to the Note 4 briefly but came back to this phone. Love the fingerprint scanner, no issues with it, even with using Zerolemon battery & case. Also the always on 2nd screen is so useful.
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No problems here either. Got it first day of launch. Still going strong.
Besides, LG is fixing the bootloops issue passed the warranty window. Wtf more do you want? They don't legally have to.
And when will people realize that class action suits only benefit the lawyers. It hurts the company which will hurt the consumers in the end.
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No problems here either. Got it first day of launch. Still going strong.
Besides, LG is fixing the bootloops issue passed the warranty window. Wtf more do you want? They don't legally have to.
And when will people realize that class action suits only benefit the lawyers. It hurts the company which will hurt the consumers in the end.
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my v10 is finally exhibiting signs of oncoming failure. It's randomly freezing now, and it's not a software issue since it still happens if I go back to totally stock with no root or extra apps installed.
I am on my third V10, the first two were victims of said bootloop issue
I have mine for a year now, without any problems...
I'm on my second V10 first had endless bootloop and this one has screen burn in.
Bought mine on launch (2015-10-31) finally bootlooped this past Tuesday and of course it happens 3 months after the warranty extension that others have reported. I didn't even hear about the warranty extension until it was already too late otherwise I would have had it looked at because of screen image retention/ghosting. Requested an RMA# so I'll see what happens after they get it.
Anyone know if they'll even care it was rooted when it died? Will they try to claim I broke it?
UPDATE: While trying to recover my data the phone stopped charging so it was completely dead when they got it. LG repaired my phone for free, not counting shipping, their turnaround was 2 days.
On my third, got my replacement and then got home and it was ****ing up already. Had another one sent out 3 hours later. This one is already ****ing up as well. It also has some ****ing malware that came with it that I cant get rid of no matter how many times I reset it back to factory. I was looking at getting the V20, but at this point I am probably going to go with an Asus Zenfone 3 Deluxe next.
Airtioteclint said:
No problems here either. Got it first day of launch. Still going strong.
Besides, LG is fixing the bootloops issue passed the warranty window. Wtf more do you want? They don't legally have to.
And when will people realize that class action suits only benefit the lawyers. It hurts the company which will hurt the consumers in the end.
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No there not actually there simply replacing them (with other faulty unit) within their un-publicissd 18 Month from manufacturing date as opposed to only modern there one year from. Purchase Date so they have done exstreamly. Little and depending on what country we are talking about the likly broke some laws by continuing to sell the devices after they new thew were found. Faulty (witch we k ow as they admitted it) sound alot like a car dealer taking the bulb put out the cheack engine light before you bought it, I assume it this happened to you would see it as the rest of us see this
I got a refurbished one from eBay about 6 mos ago. Never had the bootloop issue but getting the image burned screen sometimes and it overheats and is very slow from time to time at that time I just reboot it. Other than that everything else is alright.
Jessooca said:
Reading this was pretty interesting. Literally if you look at one reply to the next it's "no issues here" then "mine sucks like a girl named Hoover!" talk about hit or miss.
Would you or would you not buy this phone again for say $200 if you had to have a 5.5" screen or larger like this one??
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In my case I was looking for 64 GB or more internal + SD + removable battery, there aren't many phones with that combo left so yeah I'd easily buy it again at that price especially if it's New. It's still a nice phone and supposedly will get N. If not for the bootloop issue I could see this phone being viable for another 3 years barring some major tech change.
I saw someone on reddit mention they purchased their V10 using a credit card (Amex) that offers extended warranty coverage and they were able to make a claim without having to send in their - I presume dead - phone. So I'd highly recommend buying with a CC that offers extended warranty, if you are buying one, that way you have some peace of mind if you find yourself with a dead phone and LG has stopped free repairs.
My third V10 bootlooped again over the weekend. I was scrolling through Facebook and the phone froze. I pulled the battery and it just rebooted over and over... I went to my local T-Mobile store and the rep said that I was the third person to come in there within the past few days with the same issue. The rep also said that my phone was no longer under warranty and made a phone call to tech support to see what they could do. They agreed to a warranty replacement since I had this problem so many times before. I told the rep that I didn't want another LG V10 or any LG for that matter, however, in order to Jump I had to turn in a working phone. The rep told me they would file the warranty claim and as soon as the phone arrived in the store, they would let me immediately turn it in and upgrade. I was holding out until the fall to see if the Note 8 would get released but seeing as how I can no longer wait, I think I'm getting a S8+.
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Reading this was pretty interesting. Literally if you look at one reply to the next it's "no issues here" then "mine sucks like a girl named Hoover!" talk about hit or miss.
Would you or would you not buy this phone again for say $200 if you had to have a 5.5" screen or larger like this one??
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Paid 129 for my phone it has an image retention issue but. Seeing as I get a he'll of a lot of hardware for 129 I would not mind again and again
I just had to send my phone in to LG and get the motherboard replaced. It cost me nothing, had the phone at least a year and a half at that point. Called up LG and talked to a rep and said it started randomly rebooting and then wouldn't turn on, he knew exactly what I was talking about and knew of the issues with the G4 and V10. Followed a few steps online through their webpage and had no issues. Only downside is that it came back with Nougat on it, so no root or exposed yet.

Questions about refurbished unit.

Hey all,
I'm getting sent a replacement from Google due to my current device having a faulty power button. (It works whenever it feels like it)
Are the refurbished phones clean looking like new phones? I love the look of the phone itself and have had bad experiences with refurbs (HTC).
And since it's from the Google Store, it's still rootable?
I would assume yes it's still Rootable. The refurbished units are good but I notice there was two scratches on the edge of the housing with mine. I assume it was there due to a previous screen replacement.
Should still be rootable..
If the phone you sent them was a Google bought phone yes it is rootable. If you sent them a Verizon phone probably not.
I haven't gotten a refurbished Pixel. Luckily I haven't needed it, but I did get a refurbished Nexus 5X because it boot looped, and it looked brand new.
I just received a refurbished phone and I wouldn't have even been able to tell it wasn't brand new.
Thanks everyone for replying. I received my refurbished unit and like everyone said, it looked brand new! Only issue was that Sprint was unable to get it working on their Network. For some reason, the IMEI and the MEID were entirely different. I went through 4 techs before the last one informed me that those two numbers should only be off by one, and mine were entirely different. So, Google is sending me out another refurbished one.
Wish me luck. ?
Good luck. I am going on my 4th replacement. First 2 couldn't lock onto gps satellites and my current phone died while on a road trip. I haven't rooted or modded my device and use the chargers+cables I bought from Google. There are only 2 months left for the warranty and afraid I will have an 800 dollar brick after the warranty expires.
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another dead pixel thread; possibly high defect rate?

hey all,
just wanted to share a few notes on my experience with the pixel 3 xl and google support. part cautionary tale, part just feeling bitter.
tl;dr: high defect rate has possibly depleted stock of new devices (that would be set aside specifically for replacements), now only replacing with refurbs? possible 3rd party wireless charging issue?
i purchased my p3xl direct from google. the first one died in about 4 days. it wouldn't turn on and no combinations of buttons would give me even a screen flicker. then a day later, it suddenly came back to life. no explanation, no errors. i factory reset it, set it back up, rooted it, etc...
it died again the next day. i RMA'd it, and the day before my replacement arrived, it just came back on. it was weird and i was feeling paranoid, so i set up the new one and started using it. i kept the original one running and just played around with it, until the last few days before i HAD to send it in. it never once dropped again. i sent it back, keeping the new replacement.
2 months later, my 2nd one is dead. it seems to be the same issue, won't respond to anything. i used the stock charger, tried my partner's pixel 3 charger & cables, connecting it to my laptop, the charger for my old nexus (with a USB-C adapter) -- each for 6 to 10 hours. i'm still holding out a glimmer of hope that it will kick back on long enough for me to pull everything off it. i have a whole list of links to other threads on XDA and reddit with the magic button combo that people used to turn theirs back on, but many people are just getting it replaced.
so.. after a day of panicked research and a spreadsheet full of "button combo", "time held", "button released first", "result" desperation and sadness, i RMA'd it. this time they will only replace it with a refurb device. i escalated this over email, chat, twitter... but i kept getting the same message:
I understand that you're looking for a new device as a replacement. Please be informed that we have a finite number of new devices manufactured, and I'm sorry to inform that we wouldn't be able to send out a new device as a replacement, but rest assured our replacement devices undergo a comprehensive process to ensure a high standard of quality before they are shipped.
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my read on this that they're getting way more returns than they expected... thoughts?
all this said: i've been really loving the p3xl -- my brother has one, my gf has the p3. they love 'em and have had no problems. so yesterday i caved and ordered the replacement (refurb), but i'm pissed that (a) my phone is in perfect condition and i take really good care of it (shout out to whitestone dome, that thing is amazing!), and (b) i feel like i'm out 200$ish that is the diff between a new vs. refurb device and the cost of a new whitestone dome glass.
literally the only diff i can tell between myself, my brother, and my gf is that i have a tylt wireless charger that i drop my phone on when i'm going to bed. works great with my nexus, seemed like it was working fine for the pixel (albeit only slow charging). in my googling, i saw a couple of threads where people complained that a wireless charger had damaged their battery which is what pointed me this direction, but i honestly have no idea if it's really a factor.
so i'm sort of curious about other people's stories... are you running in to the same issues? did the magic button combo work? can you think of any reason why yours died in the first place?
thanks!
I can't comment from a bad experience, but I have ran the gambit of wired chargers through my 3xl but only ever used the pixel dock for wireless, due to my case (otterbox defender) it will only slow charge while the case is on, but I haven't had an issue, not trying to rub this in, just giving you another data point.
I have had mine for months, using it on the Pixel Stand nightly (with a case on). No issues so far.
Honestly, it's a big hit or miss with their "refurbished" devices. I've had multiple replacements ranging with big scratches 1.5 - 2 inches on the display. Buzzing earpieces and ****ty sounding speakers etc. They say their replacements go through a comprehensive check to make sure they're 100% mechanically sound. To me it seems like Google just stuffs in returned devices and ships them off as warranty exchanges. They just hope that the next person that gets it doesn't notice the defect and accepts the rubbish they dish out. But there is some light at the end of the tunnel if you deal with too many replacements. You can get your case escalated and they can refund you the total of the phone as a return 100% and you can get your money back. Then, if you wish, you can order a brand new one and at that point you'll have a brand new warranty and be guaranteed a new device for 2 weeks. I went through a similar fiasco for radio problems and speakers going out, but I have never faced your issue yet. I ended up getting a refund and bought a new Pixel 3 XL when they had the $200 off promotion so that was awesome! Best of luck!
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Honestly, it's a big hit or miss with their "refurbished" devices. <snip> I ended up getting a refund and bought a new Pixel 3 XL when they had the $200 off promotion so that was awesome! Best of luck!
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Similar situation with me but for constant flashing making the phone unusable for hours at a time. I was 17 days out of purchase and they refused to send me a new device, only a refurb. I could have gotten my money back as you described above but I bought it at the $200 off price and that promotion is expired. So my options were a refurb (they spout the exact same line about testing which is total BS) or spending an extra $200 for a new one. I have the Pixel 3 not the XL. These devices are flawed in a major way. The only thing they can do at this point is give free replacements to those experiencing problems. New and not refurbished. Throw all those away or give them away, they are useless. I wonder what the statistics are on returns. My wife has one since November with not one single issue. I'm on my 5th in the past month or so.
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Honestly, it's a big hit or miss with their "refurbished" devices. I've had multiple replacements ranging with big scratches 1.5 - 2 inches on the display. Buzzing earpieces and ****ty sounding speakers etc. They say their replacements go through a comprehensive check to make sure they're 100% mechanically sound. To me it seems like Google just stuffs in returned devices and ships them off as warranty exchanges. They just hope that the next person that gets it doesn't notice the defect and accepts the rubbish they dish out. But there is some light at the end of the tunnel if you deal with too many replacements. You can get your case escalated and they can refund you the total of the phone as a return 100% and you can get your money back. Then, if you wish, you can order a brand new one and at that point you'll have a brand new warranty and be guaranteed a new device for 2 weeks. I went through a similar fiasco for radio problems and speakers going out, but I have never faced your issue yet. I ended up getting a refund and bought a new Pixel 3 XL when they had the $200 off promotion so that was awesome! Best of luck!
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wow, that's a great piece of info - thanks! i'll see how the refurb works out, but yeah, mine is in pristine condition, i'm not going to accept a replacement with scratches.
They say their replacements go through a comprehensive check to make sure they're 100% mechanically sound.
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i swear, they pasted that line into EVERY single response i received. it got annoying fast.
bobby janow said:
The only thing they can do at this point is give free replacements to those experiencing problems. New and not refurbished. Throw all those away or give them away, they are useless. I wonder what the statistics are on returns. My wife has one since November with not one single issue. I'm on my 5th in the past month or so.
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i really think that this is why they're only doing refurbs now.. they probably used up all their "set aside for returns"-new devices already. makes me wonder if we're just all recycling each others non-functioning devices at this point..
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I can't comment from a bad experience, but I have ran the gambit of wired chargers through my 3xl but only ever used the pixel dock for wireless, due to my case (otterbox defender) it will only slow charge while the case is on, but I haven't had an issue, not trying to rub this in, just giving you another data point.
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good to know. most of the "wireless charging broke my phone" threads do seem to be contained to 3rd party chargers, if the replacement works out, i might grab one of the pixel stands. thx!
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i really think that this is why they're only doing refurbs now.. they probably used up all their "set aside for returns"-new devices already. makes me wonder if we're just all recycling each others non-functioning devices at this point..
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That's why I wouldn't accept a refurb. It cost me but I will get it back in the end. I had to pay for a new device, wait for it, transfer the info, send back the old piece of crap and wait for my refund. I don't care. I'm not getting some POS refurb when my device was only 17 days old and flashed like a lightning storm in June. So I'm going to test it as best I can in the coming days once I receive the new one. Any sign of anything and I'm outta here. Perhaps for good. It's just not worth it at this point when other devices are better. Used to the Nexus 5 at half the price of other phones, rootable, no problems with apps, stuff like that. Those days are over. Unfortunately.
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Used to the Nexus 5 at half the price of other phones, rootable, no problems with apps, stuff like that. Those days are over. Unfortunately.
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i know, right? i'm back on my nexus 6 awaiting the replacement... despite the cracked screen, it's still a solid device.
It amazes me how lucky I must have been. Had to get my device from a third party with no chance of returning.
Why is Google quality control so freaking bad?
Plus if you complain on their support forum they just delete your post!

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