Class-action lawsuit targets LG over legendary G4, V10 bootloop issues - T-Mobile LG V10 General

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...ets-lg-over-legendary-g4-v10-bootloop-issues/
About freaking time!
I will never buy buy another LG device again, every LG device I have owned has had at least 2 to 3 fatal flaws.
On the case of LGV10 I have experienced: Overheating, Failed Finger Print Readers, Image Retention/Burn in and finally the dreaded boot loop of death that is very real and common to ALL LGV10's and going back as far the G4.

I guess I was one of the lucky ones. Haven't had many of those issues. Only the image retention but since I started using the Blue Filter app, no more image retention. Been using this phone for almost a year and a half now. Did switch to the Note 4 briefly but came back to this phone. Love the fingerprint scanner, no issues with it, even with using Zerolemon battery & case. Also the always on 2nd screen is so useful.
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No problems here either. Got it first day of launch. Still going strong.
Besides, LG is fixing the bootloops issue passed the warranty window. Wtf more do you want? They don't legally have to.
And when will people realize that class action suits only benefit the lawyers. It hurts the company which will hurt the consumers in the end.

Airtioteclint said:
No problems here either. Got it first day of launch. Still going strong.
Besides, LG is fixing the bootloops issue passed the warranty window. Wtf more do you want? They don't legally have to.
And when will people realize that class action suits only benefit the lawyers. It hurts the company which will hurt the consumers in the end.
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my v10 is finally exhibiting signs of oncoming failure. It's randomly freezing now, and it's not a software issue since it still happens if I go back to totally stock with no root or extra apps installed.

I am on my third V10, the first two were victims of said bootloop issue

I have mine for a year now, without any problems...

I'm on my second V10 first had endless bootloop and this one has screen burn in.

Bought mine on launch (2015-10-31) finally bootlooped this past Tuesday and of course it happens 3 months after the warranty extension that others have reported. I didn't even hear about the warranty extension until it was already too late otherwise I would have had it looked at because of screen image retention/ghosting. Requested an RMA# so I'll see what happens after they get it.
Anyone know if they'll even care it was rooted when it died? Will they try to claim I broke it?
UPDATE: While trying to recover my data the phone stopped charging so it was completely dead when they got it. LG repaired my phone for free, not counting shipping, their turnaround was 2 days.

On my third, got my replacement and then got home and it was ****ing up already. Had another one sent out 3 hours later. This one is already ****ing up as well. It also has some ****ing malware that came with it that I cant get rid of no matter how many times I reset it back to factory. I was looking at getting the V20, but at this point I am probably going to go with an Asus Zenfone 3 Deluxe next.

Airtioteclint said:
No problems here either. Got it first day of launch. Still going strong.
Besides, LG is fixing the bootloops issue passed the warranty window. Wtf more do you want? They don't legally have to.
And when will people realize that class action suits only benefit the lawyers. It hurts the company which will hurt the consumers in the end.
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No there not actually there simply replacing them (with other faulty unit) within their un-publicissd 18 Month from manufacturing date as opposed to only modern there one year from. Purchase Date so they have done exstreamly. Little and depending on what country we are talking about the likly broke some laws by continuing to sell the devices after they new thew were found. Faulty (witch we k ow as they admitted it) sound alot like a car dealer taking the bulb put out the cheack engine light before you bought it, I assume it this happened to you would see it as the rest of us see this

I got a refurbished one from eBay about 6 mos ago. Never had the bootloop issue but getting the image burned screen sometimes and it overheats and is very slow from time to time at that time I just reboot it. Other than that everything else is alright.

Jessooca said:
Reading this was pretty interesting. Literally if you look at one reply to the next it's "no issues here" then "mine sucks like a girl named Hoover!" talk about hit or miss.
Would you or would you not buy this phone again for say $200 if you had to have a 5.5" screen or larger like this one??
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In my case I was looking for 64 GB or more internal + SD + removable battery, there aren't many phones with that combo left so yeah I'd easily buy it again at that price especially if it's New. It's still a nice phone and supposedly will get N. If not for the bootloop issue I could see this phone being viable for another 3 years barring some major tech change.
I saw someone on reddit mention they purchased their V10 using a credit card (Amex) that offers extended warranty coverage and they were able to make a claim without having to send in their - I presume dead - phone. So I'd highly recommend buying with a CC that offers extended warranty, if you are buying one, that way you have some peace of mind if you find yourself with a dead phone and LG has stopped free repairs.

My third V10 bootlooped again over the weekend. I was scrolling through Facebook and the phone froze. I pulled the battery and it just rebooted over and over... I went to my local T-Mobile store and the rep said that I was the third person to come in there within the past few days with the same issue. The rep also said that my phone was no longer under warranty and made a phone call to tech support to see what they could do. They agreed to a warranty replacement since I had this problem so many times before. I told the rep that I didn't want another LG V10 or any LG for that matter, however, in order to Jump I had to turn in a working phone. The rep told me they would file the warranty claim and as soon as the phone arrived in the store, they would let me immediately turn it in and upgrade. I was holding out until the fall to see if the Note 8 would get released but seeing as how I can no longer wait, I think I'm getting a S8+.

Jessooca said:
Reading this was pretty interesting. Literally if you look at one reply to the next it's "no issues here" then "mine sucks like a girl named Hoover!" talk about hit or miss.
Would you or would you not buy this phone again for say $200 if you had to have a 5.5" screen or larger like this one??
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Paid 129 for my phone it has an image retention issue but. Seeing as I get a he'll of a lot of hardware for 129 I would not mind again and again

I just had to send my phone in to LG and get the motherboard replaced. It cost me nothing, had the phone at least a year and a half at that point. Called up LG and talked to a rep and said it started randomly rebooting and then wouldn't turn on, he knew exactly what I was talking about and knew of the issues with the G4 and V10. Followed a few steps online through their webpage and had no issues. Only downside is that it came back with Nougat on it, so no root or exposed yet.

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[Q] How do I go about getting a WORKING phone from t-mo?

I purchased the G2X about 4 months ago and it's been nothing but a nightmare. I've been with t-mobile for 5 + years now and I've never had a bad experience up until now.
The initial handset worked fine but then the wi-fi stopped working. I tried EVERYTHING. I sent it back, paid the $20 fee and got a new one a week later. That phone started messing up as well. It started with random reboots (even after factory resets to stock) along with it freezing overnight (on stock rom as well). Now, the funny thing is right before I go to send it back I spill a TINY amount of water on the back of the phone. Out of habit I immediately pull the battery out... What happens next? The small droplets of water on the battery slide down RIGHT ON TOP OF THE WATER SICKER! /facepalm. I got to eat a hefty fee for that.
ANYWAYS, back on track, I get a new one (my third and current phone) and it does the SAME thing again. Freezing overnight, overheating, wifi is sketchy. I OC'd it to 1.2 GHZ and it runs fine and then stops working. Regardless if I fried it the damn thing wasn't working to begin with.
T-mo is offering to send me yet another handset (and another $20 warranty fee im assuming) but I don't want another one of these ****ty phones from them! Not if they keep failing on me. I've expressed this each time and each rep won't listen to me (or maybe they can't understand my English since they're all from India). Is there anything I can do? Or do I just keep going through this process. I hate this phone. Hate.
Has anyone else been having problems with tmobile? I remember loving their service back in the day... Sigh.
So you've obviously had/have root are using custom roms/kernels mixing and matching things around? Some of these are lemons that's without a doubt. I have no issues but you might just want to ask to be transferred to a manager or supervisor, get the fee waived or try and get a different phone replaced.
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Keep pressing them. I raised holy hell with them and they replaced mine several times. I literally went through about eight or nine. (But I never waited longer than two weeks though.) I lost count. Out of those, I got two good ones. Problem free they were. Both of which I dropped.....now I have another crappy one. sigh.
But there really are good ones. People here are more than happy to tell you all about theirs LOL. Maybe you'll get lucky.
If you don't want another, maybe you can try for a replacement and you'll luck out with a NEW unopened one. This could be sold unopened and the proceeds used to get a Sensation or Galaxy Nexus.
But there really are some good ones out there. My estimate is 25% are good. Maybe a higher percentage of the newer ones? But the problems you describe are classic.....been there done that.
consumerist.com is a good source for executive email addresses............the squeeky wheel gets greased.
Thank you so much for that link. I'll go ahead and start e-mailing trying to get this resolved. I'm so sick and tired of sending phones back.
When the water got on the Water Sticker and you had to eat it and buy a phone, why did you by a G2x instead of something else at that time?
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When the water got on the Water Sticker and you had to eat it and buy a phone, why did you by a G2x instead of something else at that time?
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Because it was still under warranty and -ANY- damage that voids that will only cause them to charge you the $75 fee (+ tax). That was cheaper than buying my own parts to fix the screen or purchasing a new phone. They sent me a refurb one that is currently stuck in a bootloop =/
I have been through this before if you don't want the phone tell them to switch you into something that is the same in performance. They have to do it. After you have returned a phone more then 2times and don't let them tell you that you can't because its all bull go up the food chain if you have to
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You can also threaten to cancel your service and they will transfer you to customer retention department and they can do alot more than the ordinary cs rep with customer retention you should get some results

[Q] Nexus 5 Warranty Replacement

Recently, my Nexus 5 has been acting up. The problem specifically is that when I plug it into the OEM charger (along with 3 other chargers that I've tried), it will only hold the charge. It will not charge past the battery% that it is sitting at. Sometimes, it even drains somehow. I've tried going back to stock, clearing my cache, and other troubleshooting steps that Google sent me.
After letting them know that I had no luck with getting the phone to charge properly, they tell me that they will provide a replacement (hold on credit card, blah blah blah) but that the replacement unit will be REFURBISHED and LIKE-NEW condition.. Is this how the Google warranty has always been? It does not sound right to me. I've only had the device for 8 months, and they offer me a refurbished replacement for a hardware-faulty phone?
Just looking for a quick answer and some peace of mind if someone could quickly clarify if their refurbished replacements are something regular and I shouldn't be worried about swapping out my phone for something in like-new condition.
They used to give new devices for rma. Now that the phone has been out for some time they only give refurbished ones for rma. So yes, it's normal.
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Recently, my Nexus 5 has been acting up. The problem specifically is that when I plug it into the OEM charger (along with 3 other chargers that I've tried), it will only hold the charge. It will not charge past the battery% that it is sitting at. Sometimes, it even drains somehow. I've tried going back to stock, clearing my cache, and other troubleshooting steps that Google sent me.
After letting them know that I had no luck with getting the phone to charge properly, they tell me that they will provide a replacement (hold on credit card, blah blah blah) but that the replacement unit will be REFURBISHED and LIKE-NEW condition.. Is this how the Google warranty has always been? It does not sound right to me. I've only had the device for 8 months, and they offer me a refurbished replacement for a hardware-faulty phone?
Just looking for a quick answer and some peace of mind if someone could quickly clarify if their refurbished replacements are something regular and I shouldn't be worried about swapping out my phone for something in like-new condition.
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I called Google yesterday about my Nexus 5, but for a different issue with the SIM card. Same as you, "hold on credit card, blah blah blah" and then I received the email to see it was going to be a 'REFURBISHED and LIKE-NEW' unit. Knowing that the potential for abuse or misuse on a returned and refurbished unit is seemingly limitless I called them. The woman who I spoke with said that they just changed their policy 2 weeks ago and now they will all be refurbished units. They said that if I receive the refurbished unit and I don't like it, I can just send it back. They also said that if I receive a refurbished unit and it has problems after sever replacements I could go the route of returning it all together.
I'm not sure what I'm going to do.
I may stand alone when I say this, but how is getting a refurbished replacement for an 8 month old phone anything but fair? I can understand if it was a month old, but after 8 months your phone is thoroughly used. The refurbs are like new so you'll be getting a device that's in better condition than yours... I dunno, pick your battles I guess.
Refurbs are fine. They go back to LG and are put through the same QQ checks that new devices are. If housing or glass have any cracks or scratches they are replaced. The device will look brand new and they only way most people would be able to tell is because Google is telling you.
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I may stand alone when I say this, but how is getting a refurbished replacement for an 8 month old phone anything but fair? I can understand if it was a month old, but after 8 months your phone is thoroughly used. The refurbs are like new so you'll be getting a device that's in better condition than yours... I dunno, pick your battles I guess.
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Exactly, every other device you would get refurbs from the start. The fact that Google was replacing them with new devices for 8 months is the surprising part, not that they've now switched to the standard business practice as the device nears EOL. It's like complaining about Google cross shipping the replacements. they go above and beyond what is expected of them and people still find reasons to complain.
If you return a used product, you can expect a used (refurbished) product in return.
I RMA'd my device due to a faulty earpiece. It is a 7 month old phone, and the earpiece just simply started acting up.
The refurbished device that I received is nearly flawless, but at the charging port there are quite some scratches. It seems the previous owner would fumble the cable around without looking, trying to plug it in.
http://postimg.org/image/ikp2n1z07/
They are bad enough that I am attempting to return it and get another one. I understand that they are refurbished, but I dont one want that is in a worse condition that mine. I am super caring to my phone. I expect something similar than that.
I will update as to how it goes!
Thanks for the responses (excluding the slight opinionated hostility). I feel a bit more comfortable about a refurbished device since I haven't had issues with phones before. I was skeptical because I had my Galaxy Nexus for 3 years with zero issues, it was the best phone I've ever had, so I was really surprised that a battery could crap out after 8 months just like that. I'll probably be ordering mine soon since I don't think a full refund is possible, and quite frankly, the device is quite better than the SGS products.
Shadow89 said:
I RMA'd my device due to a faulty earpiece. It is a 7 month old phone, and the earpiece just simply started acting up.
The refurbished device that I received is nearly flawless, but at the charging port there are quite some scratches. It seems the previous owner would fumble the cable around without looking, trying to plug it in.
http://postimg.org/image/ikp2n1z07/
They are bad enough that I am attempting to return it and get another one. I understand that they are refurbished, but I dont one want that is in a worse condition that mine. I am super caring to my phone. I expect something similar than that.
I will update as to how it goes!
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That actually looks like they were using some sort of dock with their phone, hence the squarish imprint. Not the worst but I agree with you it shouldn't be in a worse condition then what you sent in, and that would not qualify as "as new" in most people's opinion.

Galaxy S7 gap

I have gaps mostly all over the edge as in the pics. Please zoom in to see them clearly. Is this normal? Manufacturing defect?
Just checked my S7... I don't have the same gaps as per your pictures. Mine sits completely level on all sides.
Would probably try and swap it for a new one if possible.
Does it cause any issues?
HuskQi said:
Just checked my S7... I don't have the same gaps as per your pictures. Mine sits completely level on all sides.
Would probably try and swap it for a new one if possible.
Does it cause any issues?
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As I said this is already my 3rd replacement unit. The last two times I went for replacement they said they can't accept this as issue enough to give me a replacement. Yet somehow they gave me after lot of talk. Samsung service is so bad
Apologies I didn't see anywhere in your post where you said it was your third replacement.
Potentially ask for one last return and see if they can get one from a different batch. I had reboot issues with my S7, went through 2 more with same issue, and eventually they got one sent down from a different city, different batch and it has been flawless.
Was lucky the person I dealt with had the patience to go through the whole ordeal for me.
If it doesn't cause any performance issues, then you could always just cover it up with a case as a last resort but it doesn't look TOO bad from the pictures.
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As I said this is already my 3rd replacement unit. The last two times I went for replacement they said they can't accept this as issue enough to give me a replacement. Yet somehow they gave me after lot of talk. Samsung service is so bad
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i totally agree with u...Samsung service is the worst...my xperiance was that they had my phone for 10 days and did nothing to my phone...i have grey lines on my display although they are not visible in every situation but when they are visible its a little bit anoying...so i sad to them to change the screen and they sad yes they will and at the end i got my phone intact with no replacement or whatsoever...when i had similar problem with Sony xperia the storry is diferent they replaced the screen in one week and its flawles now(my mom is using it)...so yea in my situation Samsung service is the worst so far!!
I've been lucky with my experiences although there quality control is meh. I also had reboot issues with my S6. The S6 was purchased from an official retailer which took no responsibility but Samsung told me to send it directly to them. Had it back within 2 weeks with a brand new charging board and motherboard which solved the reboot issue. Even had one of their reps call me to make sure the problem was fixed which was astonishing.
Then as per my above post, with my S7 rebooting (purchased from Samsung store this time), they went through the trouble of getting me brand new handsets each time until eventually I got one that worked.
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i totally agree with u...Samsung service is the worst...my xperiance was that they had my phone for 10 days and did nothing to my phone...i have grey lines on my display although they are not visible in every situation but when they are visible its a little bit anoying...so i sad to them to change the screen and they sad yes they will and at the end i got my phone intact with no replacement or whatsoever...when i had similar problem with Sony xperia the storry is diferent they replaced the screen in one week and its flawles now(my mom is using it)...so yea in my situation Samsung service is the worst so far!!
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Do you mean you got phone with same problem again after replacement also?
HuskQi said:
Apologies I didn't see anywhere in your post where you said it was your third replacement.
Potentially ask for one last return and see if they can get one from a different batch. I had reboot issues with my S7, went through 2 more with same issue, and eventually they got one sent down from a different city, different batch and it has been flawless.
Was lucky the person I dealt with had the patience to go through the whole ordeal for me.
If it doesn't cause any performance issues, then you could always just cover it up with a case as a last resort but it doesn't look TOO bad from the pictures.
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Oops somehow I missed to include that it's my 3rd replacement in OP. Sorry. So for the reboot issue you faced after the replacement period, you had to go to Samsung service center and got one from another batch? I want to know is it possible to tell them to get me one from another batch considering the number of times I replaced.
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Oops somehow I missed to include that it's my 3rd replacement in OP. Sorry. So for the reboot issue you faced after the replacement period, you had to go to Samsung service center and got one from another batch? I want to know is it possible to tell them to get me one from another batch considering the number of times I replaced.
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I pointed out to them that my original and replacements had all been from the same batch and all faulty and asked for one that was carrier branded cause I was desperate to get a working phone. By luck, they had run out of silver stock from all carriers at this specific branch. First he offered me a different colour, but then proceeded to call the other branches. The only silver available in the country was carrier branded but since there is virtually no difference between the carrier models in my country, I told them I'll take it. They sent it down for me, 2 days later I had it in my hands and I'm still using it now.
I think there is no harm in asking whether you could potentially get one sent down from another store/batch but don't demand one either. Just be careful not to come off as rude. I have some friends who work at phone stores and even though they can transfer stock from other stores, they won't put in the effort for rudely demanding customers (bearing in mine most of them haven't had 3 replacements like you).
Good luck
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I pointed out to them that my original and replacements had all been from the same batch and all faulty and asked for one that was carrier branded cause I was desperate to get a working phone. By luck, they had run out of silver stock from all carriers at this specific branch. First he offered me a different colour, but then proceeded to call the other branches. The only silver available in the country was carrier branded but since there is virtually no difference between the carrier models in my country, I told them I'll take it. They sent it down for me, 2 days later I had it in my hands and I'm still using it now.
I think there is no harm in asking whether you could potentially get one sent down from another store/batch but don't demand one either. Just be careful not to come off as rude. I have some friends who work at phone stores and even though they can transfer stock from other stores, they won't put in the effort for rudely demanding customers (bearing in mine most of them haven't had 3 replacements like you).
Good luck
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How you were able to find the batch of your devices?

another dead pixel thread; possibly high defect rate?

hey all,
just wanted to share a few notes on my experience with the pixel 3 xl and google support. part cautionary tale, part just feeling bitter.
tl;dr: high defect rate has possibly depleted stock of new devices (that would be set aside specifically for replacements), now only replacing with refurbs? possible 3rd party wireless charging issue?
i purchased my p3xl direct from google. the first one died in about 4 days. it wouldn't turn on and no combinations of buttons would give me even a screen flicker. then a day later, it suddenly came back to life. no explanation, no errors. i factory reset it, set it back up, rooted it, etc...
it died again the next day. i RMA'd it, and the day before my replacement arrived, it just came back on. it was weird and i was feeling paranoid, so i set up the new one and started using it. i kept the original one running and just played around with it, until the last few days before i HAD to send it in. it never once dropped again. i sent it back, keeping the new replacement.
2 months later, my 2nd one is dead. it seems to be the same issue, won't respond to anything. i used the stock charger, tried my partner's pixel 3 charger & cables, connecting it to my laptop, the charger for my old nexus (with a USB-C adapter) -- each for 6 to 10 hours. i'm still holding out a glimmer of hope that it will kick back on long enough for me to pull everything off it. i have a whole list of links to other threads on XDA and reddit with the magic button combo that people used to turn theirs back on, but many people are just getting it replaced.
so.. after a day of panicked research and a spreadsheet full of "button combo", "time held", "button released first", "result" desperation and sadness, i RMA'd it. this time they will only replace it with a refurb device. i escalated this over email, chat, twitter... but i kept getting the same message:
I understand that you're looking for a new device as a replacement. Please be informed that we have a finite number of new devices manufactured, and I'm sorry to inform that we wouldn't be able to send out a new device as a replacement, but rest assured our replacement devices undergo a comprehensive process to ensure a high standard of quality before they are shipped.
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my read on this that they're getting way more returns than they expected... thoughts?
all this said: i've been really loving the p3xl -- my brother has one, my gf has the p3. they love 'em and have had no problems. so yesterday i caved and ordered the replacement (refurb), but i'm pissed that (a) my phone is in perfect condition and i take really good care of it (shout out to whitestone dome, that thing is amazing!), and (b) i feel like i'm out 200$ish that is the diff between a new vs. refurb device and the cost of a new whitestone dome glass.
literally the only diff i can tell between myself, my brother, and my gf is that i have a tylt wireless charger that i drop my phone on when i'm going to bed. works great with my nexus, seemed like it was working fine for the pixel (albeit only slow charging). in my googling, i saw a couple of threads where people complained that a wireless charger had damaged their battery which is what pointed me this direction, but i honestly have no idea if it's really a factor.
so i'm sort of curious about other people's stories... are you running in to the same issues? did the magic button combo work? can you think of any reason why yours died in the first place?
thanks!
I can't comment from a bad experience, but I have ran the gambit of wired chargers through my 3xl but only ever used the pixel dock for wireless, due to my case (otterbox defender) it will only slow charge while the case is on, but I haven't had an issue, not trying to rub this in, just giving you another data point.
I have had mine for months, using it on the Pixel Stand nightly (with a case on). No issues so far.
Honestly, it's a big hit or miss with their "refurbished" devices. I've had multiple replacements ranging with big scratches 1.5 - 2 inches on the display. Buzzing earpieces and ****ty sounding speakers etc. They say their replacements go through a comprehensive check to make sure they're 100% mechanically sound. To me it seems like Google just stuffs in returned devices and ships them off as warranty exchanges. They just hope that the next person that gets it doesn't notice the defect and accepts the rubbish they dish out. But there is some light at the end of the tunnel if you deal with too many replacements. You can get your case escalated and they can refund you the total of the phone as a return 100% and you can get your money back. Then, if you wish, you can order a brand new one and at that point you'll have a brand new warranty and be guaranteed a new device for 2 weeks. I went through a similar fiasco for radio problems and speakers going out, but I have never faced your issue yet. I ended up getting a refund and bought a new Pixel 3 XL when they had the $200 off promotion so that was awesome! Best of luck!
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Honestly, it's a big hit or miss with their "refurbished" devices. <snip> I ended up getting a refund and bought a new Pixel 3 XL when they had the $200 off promotion so that was awesome! Best of luck!
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Similar situation with me but for constant flashing making the phone unusable for hours at a time. I was 17 days out of purchase and they refused to send me a new device, only a refurb. I could have gotten my money back as you described above but I bought it at the $200 off price and that promotion is expired. So my options were a refurb (they spout the exact same line about testing which is total BS) or spending an extra $200 for a new one. I have the Pixel 3 not the XL. These devices are flawed in a major way. The only thing they can do at this point is give free replacements to those experiencing problems. New and not refurbished. Throw all those away or give them away, they are useless. I wonder what the statistics are on returns. My wife has one since November with not one single issue. I'm on my 5th in the past month or so.
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Honestly, it's a big hit or miss with their "refurbished" devices. I've had multiple replacements ranging with big scratches 1.5 - 2 inches on the display. Buzzing earpieces and ****ty sounding speakers etc. They say their replacements go through a comprehensive check to make sure they're 100% mechanically sound. To me it seems like Google just stuffs in returned devices and ships them off as warranty exchanges. They just hope that the next person that gets it doesn't notice the defect and accepts the rubbish they dish out. But there is some light at the end of the tunnel if you deal with too many replacements. You can get your case escalated and they can refund you the total of the phone as a return 100% and you can get your money back. Then, if you wish, you can order a brand new one and at that point you'll have a brand new warranty and be guaranteed a new device for 2 weeks. I went through a similar fiasco for radio problems and speakers going out, but I have never faced your issue yet. I ended up getting a refund and bought a new Pixel 3 XL when they had the $200 off promotion so that was awesome! Best of luck!
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wow, that's a great piece of info - thanks! i'll see how the refurb works out, but yeah, mine is in pristine condition, i'm not going to accept a replacement with scratches.
They say their replacements go through a comprehensive check to make sure they're 100% mechanically sound.
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i swear, they pasted that line into EVERY single response i received. it got annoying fast.
bobby janow said:
The only thing they can do at this point is give free replacements to those experiencing problems. New and not refurbished. Throw all those away or give them away, they are useless. I wonder what the statistics are on returns. My wife has one since November with not one single issue. I'm on my 5th in the past month or so.
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i really think that this is why they're only doing refurbs now.. they probably used up all their "set aside for returns"-new devices already. makes me wonder if we're just all recycling each others non-functioning devices at this point..
JaceAlvejetti said:
I can't comment from a bad experience, but I have ran the gambit of wired chargers through my 3xl but only ever used the pixel dock for wireless, due to my case (otterbox defender) it will only slow charge while the case is on, but I haven't had an issue, not trying to rub this in, just giving you another data point.
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good to know. most of the "wireless charging broke my phone" threads do seem to be contained to 3rd party chargers, if the replacement works out, i might grab one of the pixel stands. thx!
williamentropy said:
i really think that this is why they're only doing refurbs now.. they probably used up all their "set aside for returns"-new devices already. makes me wonder if we're just all recycling each others non-functioning devices at this point..
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That's why I wouldn't accept a refurb. It cost me but I will get it back in the end. I had to pay for a new device, wait for it, transfer the info, send back the old piece of crap and wait for my refund. I don't care. I'm not getting some POS refurb when my device was only 17 days old and flashed like a lightning storm in June. So I'm going to test it as best I can in the coming days once I receive the new one. Any sign of anything and I'm outta here. Perhaps for good. It's just not worth it at this point when other devices are better. Used to the Nexus 5 at half the price of other phones, rootable, no problems with apps, stuff like that. Those days are over. Unfortunately.
bobby janow said:
Used to the Nexus 5 at half the price of other phones, rootable, no problems with apps, stuff like that. Those days are over. Unfortunately.
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i know, right? i'm back on my nexus 6 awaiting the replacement... despite the cracked screen, it's still a solid device.
It amazes me how lucky I must have been. Had to get my device from a third party with no chance of returning.
Why is Google quality control so freaking bad?
Plus if you complain on their support forum they just delete your post!

Dead Pixels!!!!!!!!

I set my phone down and picked it up only to find dead Pixels in the lower right of the screen! Anyone else have this happen. I haven't dropped the phone or gotten it wet. I am sending it off to Samsung Thursday. I hope they fix it and don't come up with some excuse to to warranty the dead Pixels.
I've had this happen as well. I sent it off to be fixed but when it came back, the front display wasn't working. Now I'll have to send it off again...
What a mess. You would think they would just give you a new phone. They wanted me to take it to one of these fix it places here in Dallas. I opted to send it to the official samsung repair. We shall see.
Yep, me too
This just happened to me an hour ago. I have not damaged the phone in any way. I hope this doesn't turn out to be another Galaxy Fold debacle.
Update: I just called Sprint and since I am within the 30 day satisfaction window, they are going to replace my phone. If this happens again then I'll be highly disappointed!
yopiggy said:
What a mess. You would think they would just give you a new phone. They wanted me to take it to one of these fix it places here in Dallas. I opted to send it to the official samsung repair. We shall see.
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Hey what was the update ? I live in dallas too. and I have exactly the same concern. Its good to know what they say before i go there.
Same here. I sent it in for repair, got slammed back with out of warranty due to an invisible scratch in a totally different spot, with their own admission is unrelated to the dead pixel and fault in the screen, and is only on the outer cover...but still invalidate warranty....I switched to Samsung 3 years ago, I might be trying google next...can't replace a good customer service when it matters.
I took my phone to the Samsung repair place uBreakiFix located at 6205 Coit Rd Suite 336, Plano, TX 75024. They fixed it under warranty. Now my phone is really getting hot. So hot is is starting to burn my face when I talk on it. Looks like i will be calling samsung again. I am afraid this thing is going to explode.
Dead Pixels x2!
I am already on my 2nd Galaxy Z Flip and now trying to get #3! My first phone developed a spot of dead pixels in the middle of the screen. They magically appeared less than 24 hours after I received it. It was only plugged in to charge overnight, so I know that they were not caused by me. It then took over 3 weeks of multiple calls to finally get it replaced! At first, they kept trying to get me to send it in for a refund, and then told me that I could just buy a new one to fix it. I told them that they were dumb and that this was not a logical option. I received this phone through the Samsung Device Insights program for 1/2 price and a replacement would cost me the full amount.
Finally, after spending another hour on the phone and telling my story for the 50th time, I finally got through to someone in a higher up support office. He agreed with me that the previous calls and my experiences were ridiculous. He took the time to contact a local authorized Samsung repair store where he could send a replacement phone for me to pick up. On the bright side, I only had to turn in the phone, and I got a completely brand new one in the box. He said I could keep all the accessories from the original phone. While it did take a few days longer than I was originally told, I did eventually get the new phone.
Fast forward to today, I have had this replacement device for exactly 20 days. I am presently at work and when I opened the phone to check my messages, I found MORE DEAD PIXELS! Just like the last phone, they are always visible, only this time they are at the top of the display. I made another call back into Samsung, and I am currently waiting for a return phone call from Anthony. He just so happens to be the same upper level support person that I spoke with last time. He was the only one that was able to get the phone swapped out. Now I am hoping he will call me back to get this taken care of again.
I will say that If I do not get a call today as promised, I am sending it back for a full refund and I will never again buy another Samsung product. I am leery about even getting a 3rd unit after the horrible experiences I have had. Have any of you had similar problems and did they get your defective phone screens repaired/replaced as promised? So far, I am very underwhelmed and think that Samsung has a long way to go to provide proper customer service.
Me too
I've had a Z flip for 5 months and tiny dead pixels on the top of screen.
I've never dropped nor wet.
I went to Samsung repair shop in London and they told me that they can't repair under warranty and I had to pay 99 pounds.
They mentioned that they could see tiny scratch on the screen which I couldn't see my eyes.
My friends told me that Samsung after care are terrible and I agree that.
I've been carefull this phone and I've never had a problem with dead pixels before.
I felt I was conned and very disappointed with Samsung

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