Galaxy S7 gap - Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers

I have gaps mostly all over the edge as in the pics. Please zoom in to see them clearly. Is this normal? Manufacturing defect?

Just checked my S7... I don't have the same gaps as per your pictures. Mine sits completely level on all sides.
Would probably try and swap it for a new one if possible.
Does it cause any issues?

HuskQi said:
Just checked my S7... I don't have the same gaps as per your pictures. Mine sits completely level on all sides.
Would probably try and swap it for a new one if possible.
Does it cause any issues?
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As I said this is already my 3rd replacement unit. The last two times I went for replacement they said they can't accept this as issue enough to give me a replacement. Yet somehow they gave me after lot of talk. Samsung service is so bad

Apologies I didn't see anywhere in your post where you said it was your third replacement.
Potentially ask for one last return and see if they can get one from a different batch. I had reboot issues with my S7, went through 2 more with same issue, and eventually they got one sent down from a different city, different batch and it has been flawless.
Was lucky the person I dealt with had the patience to go through the whole ordeal for me.
If it doesn't cause any performance issues, then you could always just cover it up with a case as a last resort but it doesn't look TOO bad from the pictures.

CraigNX said:
As I said this is already my 3rd replacement unit. The last two times I went for replacement they said they can't accept this as issue enough to give me a replacement. Yet somehow they gave me after lot of talk. Samsung service is so bad
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i totally agree with u...Samsung service is the worst...my xperiance was that they had my phone for 10 days and did nothing to my phone...i have grey lines on my display although they are not visible in every situation but when they are visible its a little bit anoying...so i sad to them to change the screen and they sad yes they will and at the end i got my phone intact with no replacement or whatsoever...when i had similar problem with Sony xperia the storry is diferent they replaced the screen in one week and its flawles now(my mom is using it)...so yea in my situation Samsung service is the worst so far!!

I've been lucky with my experiences although there quality control is meh. I also had reboot issues with my S6. The S6 was purchased from an official retailer which took no responsibility but Samsung told me to send it directly to them. Had it back within 2 weeks with a brand new charging board and motherboard which solved the reboot issue. Even had one of their reps call me to make sure the problem was fixed which was astonishing.
Then as per my above post, with my S7 rebooting (purchased from Samsung store this time), they went through the trouble of getting me brand new handsets each time until eventually I got one that worked.

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i totally agree with u...Samsung service is the worst...my xperiance was that they had my phone for 10 days and did nothing to my phone...i have grey lines on my display although they are not visible in every situation but when they are visible its a little bit anoying...so i sad to them to change the screen and they sad yes they will and at the end i got my phone intact with no replacement or whatsoever...when i had similar problem with Sony xperia the storry is diferent they replaced the screen in one week and its flawles now(my mom is using it)...so yea in my situation Samsung service is the worst so far!!
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Do you mean you got phone with same problem again after replacement also?

HuskQi said:
Apologies I didn't see anywhere in your post where you said it was your third replacement.
Potentially ask for one last return and see if they can get one from a different batch. I had reboot issues with my S7, went through 2 more with same issue, and eventually they got one sent down from a different city, different batch and it has been flawless.
Was lucky the person I dealt with had the patience to go through the whole ordeal for me.
If it doesn't cause any performance issues, then you could always just cover it up with a case as a last resort but it doesn't look TOO bad from the pictures.
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Oops somehow I missed to include that it's my 3rd replacement in OP. Sorry. So for the reboot issue you faced after the replacement period, you had to go to Samsung service center and got one from another batch? I want to know is it possible to tell them to get me one from another batch considering the number of times I replaced.

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Oops somehow I missed to include that it's my 3rd replacement in OP. Sorry. So for the reboot issue you faced after the replacement period, you had to go to Samsung service center and got one from another batch? I want to know is it possible to tell them to get me one from another batch considering the number of times I replaced.
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I pointed out to them that my original and replacements had all been from the same batch and all faulty and asked for one that was carrier branded cause I was desperate to get a working phone. By luck, they had run out of silver stock from all carriers at this specific branch. First he offered me a different colour, but then proceeded to call the other branches. The only silver available in the country was carrier branded but since there is virtually no difference between the carrier models in my country, I told them I'll take it. They sent it down for me, 2 days later I had it in my hands and I'm still using it now.
I think there is no harm in asking whether you could potentially get one sent down from another store/batch but don't demand one either. Just be careful not to come off as rude. I have some friends who work at phone stores and even though they can transfer stock from other stores, they won't put in the effort for rudely demanding customers (bearing in mine most of them haven't had 3 replacements like you).
Good luck

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I pointed out to them that my original and replacements had all been from the same batch and all faulty and asked for one that was carrier branded cause I was desperate to get a working phone. By luck, they had run out of silver stock from all carriers at this specific branch. First he offered me a different colour, but then proceeded to call the other branches. The only silver available in the country was carrier branded but since there is virtually no difference between the carrier models in my country, I told them I'll take it. They sent it down for me, 2 days later I had it in my hands and I'm still using it now.
I think there is no harm in asking whether you could potentially get one sent down from another store/batch but don't demand one either. Just be careful not to come off as rude. I have some friends who work at phone stores and even though they can transfer stock from other stores, they won't put in the effort for rudely demanding customers (bearing in mine most of them haven't had 3 replacements like you).
Good luck
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How you were able to find the batch of your devices?

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HTC UK Repair Centre delays

Hi All
Had to return my Sensation to HTC for repair, due to the dreaded unresponsive screen issue. They have now had my phone for 9 working days, and the on-line tracking status has not changed from 'We are currently testing your phone.' (which I think basically means the phone is sitting on a shelf waiting for an engineer).
Rang nealy every day, get a different story each time. Originally was told up to 7 working days for repair, then 7- 10 and now up to 14 days! This is in spite of the fact the warranty specifically states 5 working days as the target.
Anyone else had to return their phone? How long did it take to get it back?
Have written a letter demanding repair or replacement, sent on Friday recorded delivery to head office.
when i had to return my HTC HD, on both occaisions it took 8 days in total from having the phone picked up to delivery of repaired device.
Prehaps they are awaiting stock of parts due to it being a new device, or they have yet to find your issue. Usually the status changes to "in repair" when they have diagnosed what the fault is.
Thanks, but they have not said anything about requiring or being short on parts.
9th working day now since device was returned to them.
There have been some dreadful stories recently about delays at the service centre:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/18/htc_failed_support/
They had a link on the HTC UK Facebook page about this, dunno if its still there
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its the 9th working day today since they have had my sensation too! Very annoying!
Have you contacted them? What do they say?
Mods DELETE!
Pathetic isn't it?
They can't talk to the repair centre to find out the status! And they can't talk to each other, they use some IM software to communicate with each other.
Had many promised call backs, only one materialised.
According to their own warranty statement, they should repair within 5 days:
http://service.europe.htc.com/terms.aspx
1. Estimated turnover period
We estimate that we will normally be able to complete orders and return the units to most mainland addresses in the UK within 5 working days from receipt of the unit. Where the repair requires parts to be specially ordered or delivery to remote areas of the UK, or to other countries, this may take longer. HTC EU will endeavour to complete all orders within 5 working days from clearance of payment or warranty authorisation.
im very annoyed. just fake promises. they were meant to be good. F*K knows what happened to them now, but they just pi$$ me off.
should never have sent my device to them. i feel like going to Huntingdon to the repair centre, marching in, and grabbing my phone and coming back out!
They said they cant do a replacement as the device can be repaired!
I've wrote a letter asking for repair or replacement within 3 working days, as a timely repair/replacement is our right under the Sales of Goods Act.
Thats nothing! I sent SGS2 back for repairs and it took 40 days! believe me I contacted them continuously after the promised 14 day turn around! When I finally got it back it was so badly scratched I sent it back again for new housing, that took 8 days. Including postage times over 54 days without the device! Mobicity was the seller, I dont recommend them!
My letter which they received today seems to have made a difference, as status has now changed to ' We are repairing your phone.'
Well count me in on the HTC warranty issues.
I am still wondering why I should by a Sensation instead of the SGS2.
Ok, sit down ..... my HD2 has been in repair since the end of March.
It has been returned 3 times since it was never working like it should and now last week Friday I got a refurbished one.
Now the refurbished ones keypad doesn't light up on one side which is really annoying, so I wonder what they will do now? Will they repair the refurbished one and keep me another month without it?
It's not only that but the communication and the handling of the procedure is pathetic. Everytime you get someone else on the line you get another story.
Also HTC says that the complete repair didn't take long because it were 3 seperate ones. According to me 3 months without a working phone is 3 months periode. And it is not that it is about a cracked or broken screen, so there is no debate about warranty or not.
This one is amusing to read but unfortunately the sad truth, I also posted my experience.
http://happyemergency.tumblr.com/post/6777171158/5-months-of-customer-service-hell-with-htc
What a great read, disappointing but very good.
What are your top tips if anyone else is stuck in this situation?
Jasand said:
What a great read, disappointing but very good.
What are your top tips if anyone else is stuck in this situation?
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Well lets say that I have had to deal with those situations on a professional level in my past role and infact I learned alot by doing this.
There is one webpage that you need to read and use in your advantage.
For us EU people you need to know your EU customer rights.
Not alot of people or even big companies know (or want to know) this!
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:31999L0044:EN:NOT
You will find some interesting stuff in it like acceptable repair time etc etc.
This warranty stuff applies to all consumer goods, not even electronic stuff!
I write everything down, like name, date and time and what has been said.
If the thing is taking way to long you ask them to open up the online ticket
Like this http://contactus.europe.htc.com/wFrmMailLogin.aspx
They need to open it up for you. It will not work untill they change something in their system!
By having that you can leave a comment with date/time etc and there is no way that they can tell you stuff which isn't right because afterwards you can point them at this log.
Also point them to that EU law it might help.
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My letter which they received today seems to have made a difference, as status has now changed to ' We are repairing your phone.'
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Well after 13 working days of HTC having the Device and telling me we are currently testing your phone.
3 complaints filled in
2 Escalations
i get a call from the supervisor.
The repair Center have lost my device. MY BRAND NEW UNMARKED UNSCRATCHED Sensation. and they have no idea where it is. it was signed for by HTC engineer when UPS delivered it but from then they have no idea.
now they have no sensations in stock at the repair center. so i either wait but they dont know how long. or take an alternative phone, as sensation was top dog, all alternative phones will be lower spec. i asked for an EVO 3d but as it isnt released i cant have that.
but they do have to provide me with a brand new device.
lukesan said:
Well count me in on the HTC warranty issues.
I am still wondering why I should by a Sensation instead of the SGS2.
Ok, sit down ..... my HD2 has been in repair since the end of March.
It has been returned 3 times since it was never working like it should and now last week Friday I got a refurbished one.
Now the refurbished ones keypad doesn't light up on one side which is really annoying, so I wonder what they will do now? Will they repair the refurbished one and keep me another month without it?
It's not only that but the communication and the handling of the procedure is pathetic. Everytime you get someone else on the line you get another story.
Also HTC says that the complete repair didn't take long because it were 3 seperate ones. According to me 3 months without a working phone is 3 months periode. And it is not that it is about a cracked or broken screen, so there is no debate about warranty or not.
This one is amusing to read but unfortunately the sad truth, I also posted my experience.
http://happyemergency.tumblr.com/post/6777171158/5-months-of-customer-service-hell-with-htc
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That's a shame here in sweden if you send you phone back 3 times within 3 years for the same problem they will
Refund full price or give you a new phone, and if you have 4 different problems within that 3 years then the same money back or new phone
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That's a shame here in sweden if you send you phone back 3 times within 3 years for the same problem they will
Refund full price or give you a new phone, and if you have 4 different problems within that 3 years then the same money back or new phone
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Rang up the HTC Care Team today. Because they lost my Vodafone branded device. They have decided to send me a brand new unopened unbranded Sensation. which i would receive in 3 working days also
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/uk/p_htc_item.aspx?i=185326
a free Bluetooth headset as compensation.
well glad that should be sorted, and will update when i receive it
also i will get a letter confirming what happened and a fresh warranty from the date i receive my device
OP:
I sent my sensation back to HTC two weeks because of the screen issue, but mostly because of a faulty earphone jack.
Yesterday the phone came back, after 16 days and guess what?? They didn't fix the earphone jack!!!
So I rang them, they apologised and asked me to send my phone back, which I did this morning!!
WTF HTC!!!?? Get your s**t together!

[Q] Rinsed my phone, now touchscreen not working

This morning I rinsed my z3 off in the kitchen sink, all the ports were closed and I only have ever used a magnetic charger so theres no way I damaged the rubber seals. After rinsing the phone off for about 15 seconds I dried it and tried to use it.
The screen comes on and all of the buttons (power, volume, camera) work but the touchscreen is completely unresponsive. I've rebooted it with power button + volume up and now it's sitting in a bag of rice while I'm typing this.
This is obviously especially frustrating given the fact that the phone is supposed to be WATERPROOF up to 5 feet of water and mine was only under the faucet for 15 seconds or so.
I have the extended warranty but I dont want to use the extended warranty on something that I feel isnt my fault when I might need it later if I drop it or if I damage it somehow. (the warranty can only be used once)
Also I've had a terrible experience with Sony customer service in the past so I'm really trying to avoid dealing with them at all costs. Unfortunately this might be my only option.
Has anyone else had a similar experience? did the rice work or did you have to send it back?
I've rinsed my phone off several times and never had a problem.
I've had mine underwater a few times and rinsed it in the sink lots of times with no ill effects. Is yours the T-Mobile version by any chance? I've read about quite a few problems with at least one batch of Z3s T-Mobile received.
torquelift said:
I've had mine underwater a few times and rinsed it in the sink lots of times with no ill effects. Is yours the T-Mobile version by any chance? I've read about quite a few problems with at least one batch of Z3s T-Mobile received.
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No this is the unlocked variant bought straight off of the sony store. The fact that there is nothing else wrong with the screen makes me think it was just something wrong with the phone and i happened to rinse it off at the same time that it stopped working. I've never dropped this phone, I've only had it for a week and a half. It's gotta be from a bad batch.
I had one of my Z3s with massive light leak all along one side of the frame, looking closely you could see bits of glue in intervals. If yours has a similar issue, water may have entered.
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I had one of my Z3s with massive light leak all along one side of the frame, looking closely you could see bits of glue in intervals. If yours has a similar issue, water may have entered.
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Yeah I was thinking maybe there was some leak on the body or frame but It's weird that the picture is fine and it's only the touchscreen that's completely unresponsive. I would think if there was some water damage then the picture would be distorted or it wouldnt turn on properly. I'm on the phone with Sony right now, hopefully they decide that it was defective in the first place so I can dodge this ridiculous 15% restocking fee.
UPDATE**
After speaking with almost every compartmentalized department of Sony I was finally brought back to the sony store help line where the rep told me that I would be able to return the phone for a full refund. Now I'm deciding whether or not to buy another Z3. The phone was great when it worked but after mine broke down I found a lot of people online with problems like mine. This leads me to believe that this phone is very delicate and not at all as durable as I originally thought. I wish I could know if it was just a defective one out of the millions they will produce.
PS If you use your Sony warranty do not expect a replacement or loaner phone while you wait for your phone to get fixed. I ended up just buying a galaxy S4 from bestbuy to use until my new phone gets here. 14 day return policy!!
fujimori1780 said:
UPDATE**
After speaking with almost every compartmentalized department of Sony I was finally brought back to the sony store help line where the rep told me that I would be able to return the phone for a full refund. Now I'm deciding whether or not to buy another Z3. The phone was great when it worked but after mine broke down I found a lot of people online with problems like mine. This leads me to believe that this phone is very delicate and not at all as durable as I originally thought. I wish I could know if it was just a defective one out of the millions they will produce.
PS If you use your Sony warranty do not expect a replacement or loaner phone while you wait for your phone to get fixed. I ended up just buying a galaxy S4 from bestbuy to use until my new phone gets here. 14 day return policy!!
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Darn. I was planning on getting the Z3 too next month as part of a contract with one of the carriers in Canada. Looks like a great phone in terms of battery life and performance.
Don't think I can/will wait until Q1/Q2 of 2015 for a new phone. I could, I just don't know if I would. :|
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fujimori1780 said:
UPDATE**
After speaking with almost every compartmentalized department of Sony I was finally brought back to the sony store help line where the rep told me that I would be able to return the phone for a full refund. Now I'm deciding whether or not to buy another Z3. The phone was great when it worked but after mine broke down I found a lot of people online with problems like mine. This leads me to believe that this phone is very delicate and not at all as durable as I originally thought. I wish I could know if it was just a defective one out of the millions they will produce.
PS If you use your Sony warranty do not expect a replacement or loaner phone while you wait for your phone to get fixed. I ended up just buying a galaxy S4 from bestbuy to use until my new phone gets here. 14 day return policy!!
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thr can be faulty device for all brands
for example someone broke its Galaxy S4 just by putting it in pocket!
If you want real durable device the Xperia Z series is the best and the original Xperia Z was better than others
it had durable frame + light weight + beauty
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Geeks Empire said:
thr can be faulty device for all brands
for example someone broke its Galaxy S4 just by putting it in pocket!
If you want real durable device the Xperia Z series is the best and the original Xperia Z was better than others
it had durable frame + light weight + beauty
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Yeah i just ordered another z3 about 10 minutes ago haha i can't go back to a sub par battery now
Went to the aquarium yesterday and took some cool pics, unfortunately my touchscreen doesn't work now...
14 day wait time
xxquicksh0txx said:
Went to the aquarium yesterday and took some cool pics, unfortunately my touchscreen doesn't work now...
14 day wait time
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I dont know if you have a backup plan in place while youre waiting but I strongly suggest going to bestbuy and buying a phone to use in the meantime since you can just take it back within 14 for a no questions asked return. It's basically a free phone rental service. :good:
fujimori1780 said:
I dont know if you have a backup plan in place while youre waiting but I strongly suggest going to bestbuy and buying a phone to use in the meantime since you can just take it back within 14 for a no questions asked return. It's basically a free phone rental service. :good:
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Seems kinda lame to buy a phone from someone with the intent to return it like this.
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Seems kinda lame to buy a phone from someone with the intent to return it like this.
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I doubt BestBuy is going to feel the difference in their wallet. My other option is to buy a 25 dollar flip phone that I'll never use again or keep the 500+ dollar Galaxy S because it's the "right" thing to do. It would be one thing if the damage to my phone was my fault, but it's not and Sony isn't going to provide me a replacement. That is what I'd call "lame".

T-Mobile Z3... dropped/Best way to root new one/Backup old one/Insurance Claim

So I dropped my Z3 on some concrete last night....
Device works just fine but it's ugly. Will they accept the claim provided it's just cosmetic or should I lie and say it is done for? What pisses me off is not the money for the deductible... it's the countless hours I've spent customizing it.
So I'm going to file the insurance claim today. I would like to know the best way to backup my device so that I can restore as much onto the new one as possible. I had the dual backup installed but will never boot into it, maybe ill try to reinstall.
Then as far as the new device... what's the best way to root it? Should I take the update? I have blocked the sony updater on my existing one for fear of it breaking root.
Lastly will Assurant check to see if I rooted my old one? Should I unroot it prior to sending it back.
Thanks in advance for your advice. My big thing is I'm not sending this one in until I get an exact replacement and I can get that replacement rooted. If I can't do that I'll pay $200-300 to get it repaired.
I do not believe cosmetic issues are covered. Granted I did not have insurance (They backdated Jump for me after my 3 refurb so had insurance technically) when I did my exchanges with T-Mobile but they made it clear that cosmetic issues are not considered plus you technically physically damaged it and it was not a factory defect, Unless its affecting the usage of the phone they won't, unless I suppose any damage to the frame affected water proofing, you could make that case if true. In my case of severe light leak on a few of them I convinced them waterproofing was compromised (failed pressure test) so they agreed to replace.
Oh and by the way T-Mobile does not have any new Z3s nor any new ones coming in, you will get a refurb..... And boy does the repair center do a bad job, I had to send 4 refurbs in a row back recently because they had issues ranging from severe light bleed to missing paint patch in bezel which acts like an extra LED near lower speaker on 2 of them to a streak of hot/dead pixels on one....
So basically unless they can get you factory sealed one, you will have to test your luck with refurbs, though depending on how bad your damaged Z3 looks it may well be worth it lol.
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I do not believe cosmetic issues are covered. Granted I did not have insurance (They backdated Jump for me after my 3 refurb so had insurance technically) when I did my exchanges with T-Mobile but they made it clear that cosmetic issues are not considered plus you technically physically damaged it and it was not a factory defect, Unless its affecting the usage of the phone they won't, unless I suppose any damage to the frame affected water proofing, you could make that case if true. In my case of severe light leak on a few of them I convinced them waterproofing was compromised (failed pressure test) so they agreed to replace.
Oh and by the way T-Mobile does not have any new Z3s nor any new ones coming in, you will get a refurb..... And boy does the repair center do a bad job, I had to send 4 refurbs in a row back recently because they had issues ranging from severe light bleed to missing paint patch in bezel which acts like an extra LED near lower speaker on 2 of them to a streak of hot/dead pixels on one....
So basically unless they can get you factory sealed one, you will have to test your luck with refurbs, though depending on how bad your damaged Z3 looks it may well be worth it lol.
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Assurant always does refurbs, unless they don't have any they will give you a new one. It's at least a z3 they are sending, otherwise I'd tell to them to f*** off and I'd find a way to repair it.
I'm pissed that T-mobile doesn't carry anymore (some still available in stores). I think half the reason they don't sell is the salespeople at the mobile carriers and best buy are always pushing garbage samsung devices. If you go to Europe you can find accessories for any sony phone in any electronics store or airport shop. My friends in Canada say one in four in their group of friends have an Xperia. I have only seen one other out in the real world... and the individual was from Hong Kong.
I would rather purchase direct from Sony, but T-mobiles coverage is still spotty and I depend on wifi calling in some places I visit regularly.
Guy at T-Mobile said cosmetic is covered. The way I see it they'd probably prefer I pay $175 and get a device that's working just fine. I said the screen was cracked... but technically it's the glass on the back.
It's not T-Mobile's fault, they still sell the Z/Z1, reason they stopped sale of the Z3 is due to quality control issues and numerous returns. A rep told me that after I said I want a new one not any more defective refurbs. As I said I am on my 8th lol plus the 4-5 more (new) TMO store itself went through to get me my 4th so make it 10-12 total TMO sent back to Sony just for me...
Don't get me wrong I love the phone but needing that many returns is just ridiculous.....
The international version seems to have much better consistency in production and quality.
However honestly I'm glad I bought directly from T-Mobile they gave me immediate replacements for my first 4 (in Oct-Nov) which were new and 1 day shipping for the last 4 which were refurbs (recently). Sony support asked me to do a software reinstall to get rid of light leak from frame/glass where glue was clearly missing, facepalm. After that they said 3 week minimum turn around time for replacements. TMO reps seemed more knowledgeable.... They even offered to cancel my monthly phone cost and refeund tax if it happened again....
Well anyway, I hope you get a good replacement. Another idea is in the event you get a bad refurb, try to go through Sony and make them give you the international version instead.
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It's not T-Mobile's fault, they still sell the Z/Z1, reason they stopped sale of the Z3 is due to quality control issues and numerous returns. A rep told me that after I said I want a new one not any more defective refurbs. As I said I am on my 8th lol plus the 4-5 more (new) TMO store itself went through to get me my 4th so make it 10-12 total TMO sent back to Sony just for me...
Don't get me wrong I love the phone but needing that many returns is just ridiculous.....
The international version seems to have much better consistency in production and quality.
However honestly I'm glad I bought directly from T-Mobile they gave me immediate replacements for my first 4 (in Oct-Nov) which were new and 1 day shipping for the last 4 which were refurbs (recently). Sony support asked me to do a software reinstall to get rid of light leak from frame/glass where glue was clearly missing, facepalm. After that they said 3 week minimum turn around time for replacements. TMO reps seemed more knowledgeable.... They even offered to cancel my monthly phone cost and refeund tax if it happened again....
Well anyway, I hope you get a good replacement.
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As much as I liked the more squarish design of my z1s (though hated the silver accents)... my z3 seemed to be a much more quality device. Scared to try out this refurbed one. I'm charging it up and waiting until I find out the best means for rooting it. Hoping it's not a piece of crap. I remember a friend dropped my z1s, the replacement models vibrator would stop working.
Personally what upsets me most is the bootloaders that can't be unlocked and frustration with rooting. It's so easy on the international versions. And frankly while wifi calling is a nice feature it's a total load that I can't use it on any device and even more upsetting that it isn't compatible with third party messaging apps. I can't get mms to download over wifi calling with anything but that hideous bare bones stock messaging app.
"The international version seems to have much better consistency in production and quality." That right there says it all. If the international version is compatible on your service, why create a dumbed down version?
Regardless it's good to speak to someone that has experience with this, albeit unfortunate experiences. Good luck.
Make sure to check it at night, and look for light bleed and also any LED like effect from missing paint on front glass (That I believe is due to a tool mark), saw this on 3 refurbs.
As I said earlier if it does have issues try the cross model exchange with Sony. I see no alternative devices lol, the Z3 is still the most well rounded device even with the new guys in town.

Class-action lawsuit targets LG over legendary G4, V10 bootloop issues

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...ets-lg-over-legendary-g4-v10-bootloop-issues/
About freaking time!
I will never buy buy another LG device again, every LG device I have owned has had at least 2 to 3 fatal flaws.
On the case of LGV10 I have experienced: Overheating, Failed Finger Print Readers, Image Retention/Burn in and finally the dreaded boot loop of death that is very real and common to ALL LGV10's and going back as far the G4.
I guess I was one of the lucky ones. Haven't had many of those issues. Only the image retention but since I started using the Blue Filter app, no more image retention. Been using this phone for almost a year and a half now. Did switch to the Note 4 briefly but came back to this phone. Love the fingerprint scanner, no issues with it, even with using Zerolemon battery & case. Also the always on 2nd screen is so useful.
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No problems here either. Got it first day of launch. Still going strong.
Besides, LG is fixing the bootloops issue passed the warranty window. Wtf more do you want? They don't legally have to.
And when will people realize that class action suits only benefit the lawyers. It hurts the company which will hurt the consumers in the end.
Airtioteclint said:
No problems here either. Got it first day of launch. Still going strong.
Besides, LG is fixing the bootloops issue passed the warranty window. Wtf more do you want? They don't legally have to.
And when will people realize that class action suits only benefit the lawyers. It hurts the company which will hurt the consumers in the end.
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my v10 is finally exhibiting signs of oncoming failure. It's randomly freezing now, and it's not a software issue since it still happens if I go back to totally stock with no root or extra apps installed.
I am on my third V10, the first two were victims of said bootloop issue
I have mine for a year now, without any problems...
I'm on my second V10 first had endless bootloop and this one has screen burn in.
Bought mine on launch (2015-10-31) finally bootlooped this past Tuesday and of course it happens 3 months after the warranty extension that others have reported. I didn't even hear about the warranty extension until it was already too late otherwise I would have had it looked at because of screen image retention/ghosting. Requested an RMA# so I'll see what happens after they get it.
Anyone know if they'll even care it was rooted when it died? Will they try to claim I broke it?
UPDATE: While trying to recover my data the phone stopped charging so it was completely dead when they got it. LG repaired my phone for free, not counting shipping, their turnaround was 2 days.
On my third, got my replacement and then got home and it was ****ing up already. Had another one sent out 3 hours later. This one is already ****ing up as well. It also has some ****ing malware that came with it that I cant get rid of no matter how many times I reset it back to factory. I was looking at getting the V20, but at this point I am probably going to go with an Asus Zenfone 3 Deluxe next.
Airtioteclint said:
No problems here either. Got it first day of launch. Still going strong.
Besides, LG is fixing the bootloops issue passed the warranty window. Wtf more do you want? They don't legally have to.
And when will people realize that class action suits only benefit the lawyers. It hurts the company which will hurt the consumers in the end.
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No there not actually there simply replacing them (with other faulty unit) within their un-publicissd 18 Month from manufacturing date as opposed to only modern there one year from. Purchase Date so they have done exstreamly. Little and depending on what country we are talking about the likly broke some laws by continuing to sell the devices after they new thew were found. Faulty (witch we k ow as they admitted it) sound alot like a car dealer taking the bulb put out the cheack engine light before you bought it, I assume it this happened to you would see it as the rest of us see this
I got a refurbished one from eBay about 6 mos ago. Never had the bootloop issue but getting the image burned screen sometimes and it overheats and is very slow from time to time at that time I just reboot it. Other than that everything else is alright.
Jessooca said:
Reading this was pretty interesting. Literally if you look at one reply to the next it's "no issues here" then "mine sucks like a girl named Hoover!" talk about hit or miss.
Would you or would you not buy this phone again for say $200 if you had to have a 5.5" screen or larger like this one??
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In my case I was looking for 64 GB or more internal + SD + removable battery, there aren't many phones with that combo left so yeah I'd easily buy it again at that price especially if it's New. It's still a nice phone and supposedly will get N. If not for the bootloop issue I could see this phone being viable for another 3 years barring some major tech change.
I saw someone on reddit mention they purchased their V10 using a credit card (Amex) that offers extended warranty coverage and they were able to make a claim without having to send in their - I presume dead - phone. So I'd highly recommend buying with a CC that offers extended warranty, if you are buying one, that way you have some peace of mind if you find yourself with a dead phone and LG has stopped free repairs.
My third V10 bootlooped again over the weekend. I was scrolling through Facebook and the phone froze. I pulled the battery and it just rebooted over and over... I went to my local T-Mobile store and the rep said that I was the third person to come in there within the past few days with the same issue. The rep also said that my phone was no longer under warranty and made a phone call to tech support to see what they could do. They agreed to a warranty replacement since I had this problem so many times before. I told the rep that I didn't want another LG V10 or any LG for that matter, however, in order to Jump I had to turn in a working phone. The rep told me they would file the warranty claim and as soon as the phone arrived in the store, they would let me immediately turn it in and upgrade. I was holding out until the fall to see if the Note 8 would get released but seeing as how I can no longer wait, I think I'm getting a S8+.
Jessooca said:
Reading this was pretty interesting. Literally if you look at one reply to the next it's "no issues here" then "mine sucks like a girl named Hoover!" talk about hit or miss.
Would you or would you not buy this phone again for say $200 if you had to have a 5.5" screen or larger like this one??
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Paid 129 for my phone it has an image retention issue but. Seeing as I get a he'll of a lot of hardware for 129 I would not mind again and again
I just had to send my phone in to LG and get the motherboard replaced. It cost me nothing, had the phone at least a year and a half at that point. Called up LG and talked to a rep and said it started randomly rebooting and then wouldn't turn on, he knew exactly what I was talking about and knew of the issues with the G4 and V10. Followed a few steps online through their webpage and had no issues. Only downside is that it came back with Nougat on it, so no root or exposed yet.

cracked screen, ugh!

Unfortunately after 3 days use, cracked screen. A fall on the cement with a case on it, but it was too much.
Sad day. Hopefully replacement parts might be available sóon
Same happened to me just now.
I dropped it (with the HTC case on), and the screen cracked.
The drop was about 1 meter :-/
I feel sick now...
hek.je said:
Same happened to me just now.
I dropped it (with the HTC case on), and the screen cracked.
The drop was about 1 meter :-/
I feel sick now...
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Same for me, was out walking the dog and the lead pushed the phone out of my pocket. Landed on the top left corner I think at first glance was fine barely even a mark on the case but when I got home and put the phone down that there was a weird reflection and turned the screen on and saw a crack going a cross from top left to just over the power button.
Have contacted HTC to arrange a repair which is chareable as they seemingly void the warranty when the screen is cracked...better get warranty back on it after they fix it.
I was just about ready to sell my u11 thankfully still got it so using it now altho complete stock sucks lol and had relocked bootloader so no warning screen on boot sigh....
Hmm I contacted HTC (Netherlands), and they told me that it's not under warranty.
I'm going to call again on monday and try again!
The crack on my phone runs from the power button down to the left bottom side.
hek.je said:
Hmm I contacted HTC (Netherlands), and they told me that it's not under warranty.
I'm going to call again on monday and try again!
The crack on my phone runs from the power button down to the left bottom side.
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Warranty don't cover user fault. I mean, if the phone shipped damged than you can get it cover.
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I have just got the quote for repair my screen, not the actual quote as they still can't give me a the proper ticket number etc.
The cost for me to ahve the screen replaced is £285 which is almost 50% of what I paid...not bad ehh. Think this will be my last HTC phone have had them for years but losing my phone and then a ridiculous repair cost is not good.
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I have just got the quote for repair my screen, not the actual quote as they still can't give me a the proper ticket number etc.
The cost for me to ahve the screen replaced is £285 which is almost 50% of what I paid...not bad ehh. Think this will be my last HTC phone have had them for years but losing my phone and then a ridiculous repair cost is not good.
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Well that price tag is the same with every other manufacturer. So it's something you would have had to deal with on a Sammy or OP as well... it's nothing ridiculous actually. That's why I took care to get mine insured as soon as it arrived.
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5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
Well that price tag is the same with every other manufacturer. So it's something you would have had to deal with on a Sammy or OP as well... it's nothing ridiculous actually. That's why I took care to get mine insured as soon as it arrived.
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Yeah but the best thing is that the phone been in the repair centre since the 13th and still haven't got the actual quote so I can't even pay it and they never got me the UPS return label so I also had to pay for the shipping back to the factory.
Been in touch with the support for every day for well over a week and still not actually got a proper ticket number that I can track and just keep getting a new ticket number that doesn't work plus mixing up the serial number.
So think this will be the last HTC phone for me as my U11 that was faulty when I got it also took weeks to get replaced as they kept saying they where going to try and repair it.
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Yeah but the best thing is that the phone been in the repair centre since the 13th and still haven't got the actual quote so I can't even pay it and they never got me the UPS return label so I also had to pay for the shipping back to the factory.
Been in touch with the support for every day for well over a week and still not actually got a proper ticket number that I can track and just keep getting a new ticket number that doesn't work plus mixing up the serial number.
So think this will be the last HTC phone for me as my U11 that was faulty when I got it also took weeks to get replaced as they kept saying they where going to try and repair it.
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Well that's standard. Spar parts need to be delivered to the partners in the specific regions. Such things always take 4 - 6 weeks after the first devices shipped. Some manufacturers even need 8 to 10 weeks to provide the needed parts and prices.
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so any news on spare parts, i allready ordered a new back for my 5 days old u12+ but one day after i ordered it i need allso a new display, it fell from about 30 cm height on the ground and i was shocked thatthe display broke alltough it was in the original case
lousy performance by htc after the tank of a phone htc 10
Can't believe it happened to me. My U12+ fell out of my pocket -- maybe three feet -- and shattered!! I'd been using it in the wild for just four days. Had it in the case that came with the phone. (The case I planned to use is arriving tomorrow.)
I'm horrified. This phone can't be dropped three feet?? It's defective by design.
Now, the aftermatch. I contacted HTC US and they said they wouldn't touch it because I have the Hong Kong variant. I'm supposed to coordinate with HTC Hong Kong. The repair shop up the street said they could fix it for $150 if I was willing to wait two weeks for parts, so I'm trying that.
Insult to injury, I thought I had insurance, but it doesn't kick in because T-Mobile hadn't registered the phone.
Will keep everyone posted about the repair. It would be great if there was a cheaper third-party option.
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Can't believe it happened to me. My U12+ fell out of my pocket -- maybe three feet -- and shattered!! I'd been using it in the wild for just four days. Had it in the case that came with the phone. (The case I planned to use is arriving tomorrow.)
I'm horrified. This phone can't be dropped three feet?? It's defective by design.
Now, the aftermatch. I contacted HTC US and they said they wouldn't touch it because I have the Hong Kong variant. I'm supposed to coordinate with HTC Hong Kong. The repair shop up the street said they could fix it for $150 if I was willing to wait two weeks for parts, so I'm trying that.
Insult to injury, I thought I had insurance, but it doesn't kick in because T-Mobile hadn't registered the phone.
Will keep everyone posted about the repair. It would be great if there was a cheaper third-party option.
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Good luck on the repair. I would see if a repair shop locally could repair it. I just had a sub par experience with the USA HTC repair department recently. I bricked my phone and decided to send it back to HTC to see if they could revive the phone. After 5 weeks they sent it back to me and it still was not working correctly. I decided to see if I could resolve the issue which I was able to. Thank goodness. I would have hated to send the phone back to HTC for nothing again.
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Good luck on the repair. I would see if a repair shop locally could repair it. I just had a sub par experience with the USA HTC repair department recently. I bricked my phone and decided to send it back to HTC to see if they could revive the phone. After 5 weeks they sent it back to me and it still was not working correctly. I decided to see if I could resolve the issue which I was able to. Thank goodness. I would have hated to send the phone back to HTC for nothing again.
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Man! Make me nervous when reading this lol. The warranty on HTC device isn't up to it standard.
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I'm sorry if I made you feel uneasy but I figure just wanted to give you a head's up on HTC repair service. I found another thread on this particular topic and it was disappointing to read all the issues customers had with HTC repair (USA).
next time if you have a warranty issue, you can try asking the HTC DACH contact on facebook/twitter... they are actually replying properly and maybe even able to help properly. it's sad to see so many bad things with USA repair as in Europe it's quite good...but also depends on if you are in contact with them per private message or just via e-mail... via private message on facebook it works out much better
Two and half weeks later, the local repair shop tells me they ordered the wrong part (probably for the U12 Life) and worse they are unable to source a U12+ replacement screen anywhere in the world. I can't find a place to buy one either, with the sole exception of an Indian supplier asking more than $300.
Does anyone know where one can buy a replacement screen? Or how much HTC charges for repair? If it's more than $200 I'm giving up on this.
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Two and half weeks later, the local repair shop tells me they ordered the wrong part (probably for the U12 Life) and worse they are unable to source a U12+ replacement screen anywhere in the world. I can't find a place to buy one either, with the sole exception of an Indian supplier asking more than $300.
Does anyone know where one can buy a replacement screen? Or how much HTC charges for repair? If it's more than $200 I'm giving up on this.
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Just happened to me, over the phone they quoted me $2-300, but it could be more or less after sending it in. I asked what is the point of a warranty and they said it's only software issues, and it doesn't cover user damages like cracked screens. Anyways, you and I are sinking in the same boat, with HTC not selling any screens themselves, or providing other alternatives besides their own repair center. Scam company at this point
HTC cracked screen repair update:
1. I sent HTC my U12+ to repair due to a cracked screen.
2. They email me asking for a credit card to charge for the repair ($200). They asked me to call them. They did not provide a phone number.
3. I called and they ultimately said someone will call me back in 24-48 hours to take payment because they can't take payment.
4. When asked how long it will take to repair once they have payment, he said they usually take 3 week from the time they receive the phone.
It's been 7+ weeks since they received the phone.
How do I get in touch with the Indian dude, I'll spend the 300 to look at the screen without cracks. Guess I got lucky if you call it that, everything works and the cracks aren't that bad but it is disconcerting that a screen can't be had anywhere.
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How do I get in touch with the Indian dude, I'll spend the 300 to look at the screen without cracks. Guess I got lucky if you call it that, everything works and the cracks aren't that bad but it is disconcerting that a screen can't be had anywhere.
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A website called "cellspare" sells the screen, but it's $339. I made the resolve to wait two months and see if screens are cheaper.

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