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I like the Captivate better than the Vibrant. Will it allow me to use 3G on the T-Mobile network?
I believe you would only get edge on at&t.
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Technically it's the same type of network...
no, only EDGE. They have different 3G bands.
T-Mobile = 1700 MHz
ATT = 850 and 1900 MHz
we can use captivate in china with unicom
I have a Captivate on Tmobile.
Can confirm it's only Edge
I always snicker when I see these threads. T-Mo GSM =/= AT&T GSM. Yes there are common frequencies that all GSM phones use, but each carrier always has their own 3G frequency. None are shared.
While yes there are different GSM bands and yes T-mobile uses different GSM bands than AT&T, mostly all phones are quadband GSM nowadays and thus support but AT&T and T-mobile's GSM network. Even US triband GSM phones still has both AT&T and T-mobile's bands.
3G is where is it different. Not all phones support both T-mobiles and AT&T's 3g bands. Very few actually do. The Samsung Vibrant (another Galaxy S phone) supports T-mobile's 3G bands and can be changed in the service mode to support AT&T's 3G as well.
The Captivate is not the same. The Captivate can only support AT&T's 3G network and not T-mobile's 3G network. It will work on T-mobile's EDGE network.
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No they have a different bands for 3g, just because they use Sim cards doesnt mean it can run 3g on both networks
opcow said:
I believe you would only get edge on at&t.
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Your wrong, the captivate is AT&T so you can 3G with AT&T and only Edge with tmobile
I'm also using the captivate on T-Mobile but can confirm that it's only on edge.
same situation with the nexus one. cant interchange or you can only get Edge
niceties of 3G
Wrong thread. I apologise!
vette95 said:
I just bought a Motorola Cliq (MB200). In Dominican Republic there are only 2 companies with 3G service. Claro Codetel (850Mhz) and Orange Dominicana (900Mhz)
Claro Codetel sells the Motorola Cliq for 3G usage on their network, branded to them of course.
The Cliq I bought is T-Mobile branded.
Is there ANY known way to debrand and have access to the 850 band for 3G?
I ask this question because I saw how it can be done on the Motorola Defy with a service flash found here, so I believe it should also be possible with my Moto Cliq.
I would really appreciate any input on this subject.
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Shouldn't you really be looking in those forums and not one for a Galaxy S phone?
Sorry, only did it because there were talks about other makes. I didn't realise it was a "Galaxy S Only" thread.
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I can get HSPDA over here in Malaysia.
Actually, both T-Mobile and AT&T phones work here. (2100Mhz 3G band)
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Sorry, only did it because there were talks about other makes. I didn't realise it was a "Galaxy S Only" thread.
How do I delete my post?
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Only phone mentioned here was the Captivate. Which is what this fora is for.
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Is EDGE service bad? the reason I ask is that I'm planning a trip from Nova Scotia to British Columbia, and going to be drive through the states. Cheaper Gas/Food/Lodging. you get the picture. I have a Captivate from Rogers which is unlocked and was thinking about getting a T-Mobile SIM card to use the Day Pass unlimited internet. However I don't understand what edge means and if this is a good thing or not. LOL
Thanks
Well at&t just bought t-mobile so maybe there will be a combining of signals?
studacris said:
Well at&t just bought t-mobile so maybe there will be a combining of signals?
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They haven't bought, they are attempting to buy.
DOJ and FCC still have to approve it.
@OP
No, the Captivate was designed to only be supported for AT&T 3G. It does have the 2100 band, which T-Mobile 3G uses, but T-Mobile uses both 1700/2100 for upload/download, so if you don't have both, it locks you into 3G.
Anyone tried to flash a Phone with 1700 enabled?
Hey guys, i got a korean galaxy s3 LTE and im trying to figure out how i can get this to work with verizon LTE and if it would even work at all. I added APN settings for verizon but it just stays on No Service or Limited Service and doesnt show any bars. Any idea who would know what to do?
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Hey guys, i got a korean galaxy s3 LTE and im trying to figure out how i can get this to work with verizon LTE and if it would even work at all. I added APN settings for verizon but it just stays on No Service or Limited Service and doesnt show any bars. Any idea who would know what to do?
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Yeah, that phone ain't gonna work on Verizon' LTE, AT&T's LTE or Sprint's LTE. The LTE baseband chip (CM221) is tuned to 800Mhz and 1800Mhz only for Korean market.
If it's unlocked, you'll be able to get on AT&T's HSPA network, and that's about it.
milan03 said:
Yeah, that phone ain't gonna work on Verizon' LTE, AT&T's LTE or Sprint's LTE. The LTE baseband chip (CM221) is tuned to 800Mhz and 1800Mhz only for Korean market.
If it's unlocked, you'll be able to get on AT&T's HSPA network, and that's about it.
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would there be any way to tune it to the 700Mhz?
Sell it
Sent from T mobile galaxy s3 (24mbs down) 4g network
milan03 said:
Yeah, that phone ain't gonna work on Verizon' LTE, AT&T's LTE or Sprint's LTE. The LTE baseband chip (CM221) is tuned to 800Mhz and 1800Mhz only for Korean market.
If it's unlocked, you'll be able to get on AT&T's HSPA network, and that's about it.
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Once Sprint rolls out LTE on 800Mhz, you could.
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would there be any way to tune it to the 700Mhz?
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Nope. It's permanent.
Sunsparc said:
Once Sprint rolls out LTE on 800Mhz, you could.
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just wait till 2014-2015...
loll, ya if i cant get it to work the id just sell it, by 2014 there will be a bunch more phones out Thanks for the input guys
In short there's no way to get LTE on a korean S3 to work here in the states, you can't change the frequency bands that the phone has if its actually disabled/not included in the hardware, Korean LTE as said is 800/1800 none of the US Carriers use it, and even if Sprint were to rollout 800 today, Sprint doesnt allow foreign ESNs on their network unless ur carrier has a roaming agreement with them...so ya you're best bet is to sell it and get another variant.
Hi Guys,
So I got a new Razr HD from Verizon, and took it to Canada where I live. I travel a lot from the USA to Canada. The phone specs seem to indicate that it has all the bands necessary to support all the GSM and LTE bands as well as CDMA when in the states. I was able to easily get 3G/H+ service from Rogers in Canada by simply changing the Network Mode to GSM/UMTS instead of Global and then adding an APN for Rogers. However, I cannot get LTE service. The LTE choice seems to be bundled with CDMA LTE/CDMA but I don't think that matters, I think its just a radio choice. However, when selecting this, I get an error from the phone saying "No LTE networks could be found" and Do I want to switch to GSM?
This is sad because the phone would be excellent on LTE. Does anyone know how to get a Verizon branded phone to run on Rogers LTE?
If you have any ideas let me know, I will test them.
Thanks,
Blue
BluePlanetMan said:
Hi Guys,
So I got a new Razr HD from Verizon, and took it to Canada where I live. I travel a lot from the USA to Canada. The phone specs seem to indicate that it has all the bands necessary to support all the GSM and LTE bands as well as CDMA when in the states. I was able to easily get 3G/H+ service from Rogers in Canada by simply changing the Network Mode to GSM/UMTS instead of Global and then adding an APN for Rogers. However, I cannot get LTE service. The LTE choice seems to be bundled with CDMA LTE/CDMA but I don't think that matters, I think its just a radio choice. However, when selecting this, I get an error from the phone saying "No LTE networks could be found" and Do I want to switch to GSM?
This is sad because the phone would be excellent on LTE. Does anyone know how to get a Verizon branded phone to run on Rogers LTE?
If you have any ideas let me know, I will test them.
Thanks,
Blue
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Short answer, you can't. Different LTE bands. Rogers is 4 and 17, Verizon is 1, 3, 5, 13, 25. No overlap, and no-one currently makes LTE hardware that supports ALL LTE bands.
EdwardN said:
Short answer, you can't. Different LTE bands. Rogers is 4 and 17, Verizon is 1, 3, 5, 13, 25. No overlap, and no-one currently makes LTE hardware that supports ALL LTE bands.
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Just wanted to add to this... I tested my Samsung Galaxy S3, a generic version that I got from Amazon, works on AT&T in the USA on LTE and in ROGERS in Canada. Too bad the Verizon Droid does not support a similar global LTE band. Or does AT&T and Rogers simply have the same LTE bands???
BluePlanetMan said:
Just wanted to add to this... I tested my Samsung Galaxy S3, a generic version that I got from Amazon, works on AT&T in the USA on LTE and in ROGERS in Canada. Too bad the Verizon Droid does not support a similar global LTE band. Or does AT&T and Rogers simply have the same LTE bands???
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Yes, AT&T and Rogers have maintained the same bands since they were partnered maybe 10 years ago. Fido is owned by Rogers, so it also uses the same, from GSM up to LTE.
Neither AT&T or Verizon use "global" LTE bands, because there aren't any. Almost every country/provider uses different bands. There's some crossover, but with LTE, buy a phone for the market you are in, because you probably couldn't afford the roaming rates abroad anyway.
Hey guys, I think I have a related question.. maybe you guys can help
I live in Toronto and Rogers is my wireless carrier. From my understanding, Rogers operates on band 4 (1700 / 2100 mhz) as well as 2600 Mhz.
I am thinking of gettnig the new DROID MAXX from Verizon. I have tried asking the Verizon / Motorola reps about whether the LTE would work in Canada but wasn't able to get a firm answer.
From the Motorola website, however, as well as from gsmarena.com, it looks like the DROID MAXX will have access to not only LTE 700mhz, but also at 1700 and 2100 mhz.
What are the chances that this phone will work on Rogers LTE?
Really hoping it could work out... let me know if you guys have any ideas..
Can GT-N8020 work at LTE speed with AT&T in the USA?
lvnilesh said:
Can GT-N8020 work at LTE speed with AT&T in the USA?
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G'day lvnilesh,
Why yes of course it can.
Google is your friend mate >>>> http://www.att.com/network/
Good luck to you~! :good:
zzsomebody said:
G'day lvnilesh,
Why yes of course it can.
Google is your friend mate >>>> att dot com/network
Good luck to you~! :good:
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Thanks for your help. The att link you provided tells me that the device Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 LTE device AT&T offers is SGH-I497 whereas the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 LTE device that I am getting is gt-n8020
Per gsmarena samsung_galaxy_note_lte_10_1_n8020-5151 seems to support LTE but the bands seem different from samsung_galaxy_tab_2_10_1_cdma-5592.php
AT&T LTE seems to support Band 17 - 700MHz and Band 4 - 1700 MHz whereas the device GT-N8020 seem to support 4G (LTE 1800/ 2600MHz) and 3.5G (HSPA+ 42.2Mbps)
I suspect GT-N8020 will get only HSPA+ which is up to 4x faster than AT&T's 3G not LTE which is 10x faster than 3G.
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Can GT-N8020 work at LTE speed with AT&T in the USA?
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I am wondering the same thing....
AT&T Uses: 1700Mhz Band4 and 700Mhz Band17. Samsung showing 4G/LTE 1800, 4G/LTE 2600. So my guess would be no. Still thinking this would be a better option than the AT&T version of the tab 2.
You find anything else out?
Curious to see if it'll work for a tmobile sim....
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Please help me check out this http://www.expansys-usa.com/lg-g2-smartphone-32gb-black-unlocked-255286/? I'm looking to get it to use with AT&T. The specs doesn't talk about AT&T nor LTE. $499.99 is a great price if it can work with AT&T LTE. Thanks
bklm1234 said:
Please help me check out this http://www.expansys-usa.com/lg-g2-smartphone-32gb-black-unlocked-255286/? I'm looking to get it to use with AT&T. The specs doesn't talk about AT&T nor LTE. $499.99 is a great price if it can work with AT&T LTE. Thanks
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It says D802 right on the page, so use that to see how it'll work on ATT.
Don't think D802 will work well on AT&T.. Doesn't have the 700MHz frequency which is the main LTE one on AT&T.. Should have no issues at all on T Mobile LTE..
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bklm1234 said:
Please help me check out this http://www.expansys-usa.com/lg-g2-smartphone-32gb-black-unlocked-255286/? I'm looking to get it to use with AT&T. The specs doesn't talk about AT&T nor LTE. $499.99 is a great price if it can work with AT&T LTE. Thanks
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If you aren't hung up on new, check out your local craigslist for a Verizon branded G2. They are usually listed pretty cheap where I am at (in the $225-325 range on average in excellent condition). They are unlocked, you can flash AT&T firmware on it, LTE works and best of all it has wireless charging built in as a bonus. I have been very happy with mine.
It says under Technical Details:
Network: 4G: 800/900/1800/2100/2600 MHz / 3G: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz / GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
So on AT&T you'll get 3G only. It's missing the 700 (primarily) and 1700 MHz (a few markets) bands for 4G.
On T-Mobile you'd get 2G and 3G only where T-Mobile has refarmed the 1700 MHz spectrum for LTE and moved the 3G to 1900 MHz.
I have a Net10 sim which runs on the AT&T network and I have HSPA+ only, no LTE, which is good enough for me
tmzbeme said:
I have a Net10 sim which runs on the AT&T network and I have HSPA+ only, no LTE, which is good enough for me
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How is this relevant?
khaytsus said:
How is this relevant?
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gee ...let me think ..
well ...i have the same above mentioned phone, and as i mentioned am on the at&t network, and reported what i get on the phone, which i believe is what the op was asking
maybe read the thread first?
tmzbeme said:
gee ...let me think ..
well ...i have the same above mentioned phone, and as i mentioned am on the at&t network, and reported what i get on the phone, which i believe is what the op was asking
maybe read the thread first?
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Of course I know what the thread is, but perhaps mentioning you were using the same phone would have been good. Just mentioning using a different MNVO made it sound like you were just using Net10, not necessarily the same phone.
My bad..