Hey guys,
Is there any way we can get Xposed Framework work with ART? If not right now, are the developers working/gonna work on Xposed supporting ART? Thanks in advance.
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Nope. Not likely for a looooooong time anyway...
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Hi,
Xposed isn't compatible with ART (yet). It's a completely different architecture with pretty much no documentation. Rewriting Xposed for the ART runtime requires understanding the concept, the code structure and many details to know how it works. I have already spent dozens of hours on that and some things are working. But still it's a long way ahead. Don't expect even a test version in the near future. So please don't ask when it will be available - you will surely know when it is ready. I have nothing else to say about that.
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From the Xposed Framework thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401...
So for now it's not possible to use Xposed with ART runtime...
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ProVickers said:
Hey guys,
Is there any way we can get Xposed Framework work with ART? If not right now, are the developers working/gonna work on Xposed supporting ART? Thanks in advance.
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No and I don't think they plan on it anytime soon.
viking37 said:
Hi,
From the Xposed Framework thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1574401...
So for now it's not possible to use Xposed with ART runtime...
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Sorry, should've done a bit more research before posting
That's a shame, but thanks for your help anyway
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Also from rovo89:
3. As long as ART is experimental, it's much easier to make big changes to the code. Once a final version is out and used by the masses, quality engineers we be much more careful not to break things. That means that Xposed for ART on 4.5 (or whatever it will be called) might need to be completely different than for ART on 4.4. More variants means more time for maintenance. And I don't feel like pushing something out now just to drop support again in a later version. There is not enough benefit of using ART at the moment to justify that.
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Hey guys, new to n5 and I dig the stock ROM...would a somewhat stock ROM ie cataclysm be any better..than say stock w/ exposed framework?? I think exposed can give me any tweaks I need...right?
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Better is a relative term.
What is it you're trying to do with your phone?
many roms arent like really develped roms, people just compile it from whats already made then they add mods, using exposed would be just as good in those cases. but some developers actually develop a rom and fix things, they dont just add mods. those roms would be "better" than just using exposed.
Just thinking in terms of updates, etc...I find stock is good... Guess I'm wondering if the mods take performance away.
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Even though I run cataclysm I would recommend staying stock/ rooted and use xposed and either load Xblast or gravity box.
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Even though I run cataclysm I would recommend staying stock/ rooted and use xposed and either load Xblast or gravity box.
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Why do you say that? Just looking for discussion... I feel android has matured greatly since GB into ics. I've looked at cataclysm.. Seems to have the stock feel with just the right features
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bigbear6708 said:
Why do you say that? Just looking for discussion... I feel android has matured greatly since GB into ics. I've looked at cataclysm.. Seems to have the stock feel with just the right features
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Really, it's down to what you prefer. I just like to stick to stock rom with xposed modules and a custom kernel like franco.
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Why do you say that? Just looking for discussion... I feel android has matured greatly since GB into ics. I've looked at cataclysm.. Seems to have the stock feel with just the right features
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I say that because there is nothing in cataclysm that I use that isn't available in xposed with gravity box or xblast other than "quicktiles, disables fullscreen keyboard, battery style." As I said nothing not available in xposed. I just don't want to factory reset in all honesty. The only thing I am waiting for with cataclysm is to be able to adjust volume without having to unlock the phone, that is a big gripe of mine.
Thanks man. I'm the same way.. I'm over the whole factory reset.. I'll look into xposed. And stay stock! Thanks again
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Wondering if anyone could take the time to build a very basic rom that has app ops and supersu built in. just odexed to use with art as its not really worth having xposed since all i look for is app ops, supersu and maybe just quicksettings 3.0 from PA. I would love to do it myself, but dont have the machine, knowledge, nor time to do so.
Sure, anything for you.
jd1639 said:
Sure, anything for you.
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A simple NO would have sufficed
bodooo said:
A simple NO would have sufficed
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No.
bodooo said:
Wondering if anyone could take the time to build a very basic rom that has app ops and supersu built in. just odexed to use with art as its not really worth having xposed since all i look for is app ops, supersu and maybe just quicksettings 3.0 from PA. I would love to do it myself, but dont have the machine, knowledge, nor time to do so.
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There is an app to make app ops appear in your system settings, just one question out of curiosity, why not flash a custom rom?
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bodooo said:
Wondering if anyone could take the time to build a very basic rom that has app ops and supersu built in. just odexed to use with art as its not really worth having xposed since all i look for is app ops, supersu and maybe just quicksettings 3.0 from PA. I would love to do it myself, but dont have the machine, knowledge, nor time to do so.
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Isn't that Cataclysm more or less?
This is cute.
good day.
I'll take a peanut butter sandwich when you're done making that ROM.
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I'll take a peanut butter sandwich when you're done making that ROM.
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I'm on it
bodooo said:
Wondering if anyone could take the time to build a very basic rom that has app ops and supersu built in. just odexed to use with art as its not really worth having xposed since all i look for is app ops, supersu and maybe just quicksettings 3.0 from PA. I would love to do it myself, but dont have the machine, knowledge, nor time to do so.
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You do it.
Guess the OP wasn't expecting this.
But really, if you don't have the knowledge, learn. Making a ROM that does what you want is a matter of taking the PA ROM and removing and adding some files. There's no need to have a special machine or anything.
Oh, and no.
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The thread would be closed if i was a moderator?
If i was a moderator I'd say something like:
Try all the roms there are in xda and use the one that fits your needs.
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Lol, yes, I'd say something like that if i was a moderator, who is with me? Anybody?
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bodooo said:
Wondering if anyone could take the time to build a very basic rom that has app ops and supersu built in. just odexed to use with art as its not really worth having xposed since all i look for is app ops, supersu and maybe just quicksettings 3.0 from PA. I would love to do it myself, but dont have the machine, knowledge, nor time to do so.
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try the stock rom. i heard its pretty good.
Cataclysm is pretty much it. It has quick panel settings, battery icon options otherwise pretty much stock rom apart from its smart radio but i just don't have it turned on (it isn't odexed tho, but you can't tell)
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The mod is probably laughing too hard to close the thread. You guys are very funny.
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The mod is probably laughing too hard to close the thread. You guys are very funny.
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Agreed, this thread is funny, I've never seen a thread made for this sort of thing, nice work op
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Really people?
You couldn't take 30 seconds to explain how much work goes into making a ROM
Or to explain how to flash and debloat a stock ROM?
Much more fun to embarrass a new member huh?
You were all new once
Had anyone tried enabling ART in developer options? If so, what were the results? Just wondering if its worth a try.
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hendav said:
Had anyone tried enabling ART in developer options? If so, what were the results? Just wondering if its worth a try.
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I had Nexus 5 before this S5, Ive tried ART with some mixed results. With ART on Nexus 5, everything seems smoother and some battery effects (but may be placebo). With S5, everything seems similar in regards to smooth yet FCs from some installed apps like Connection Optimizer and few others. This is very brief on advantages/disadvantages. Its more like a personal preference when people choose one over the other, Dalvik/ART, but you'll have to test yourself and see what you think, form your own opinion about it. Honestly, I'd test it now before Android 4.5/5.0 comes with it by default runtime. Some say no, some say yes, its definitely though agreed to be in development and has a lot of potential towards being great.
wait until the next major android version before using ART, it's not stable enough yet, and there are many apps not compatible with it.
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sarreq said:
wait until the next major android version before using ART, it's not stable enough yet, and there are many apps not compatible with it.
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Bingo. It's not stable enough and many apps you know, lov, and use a lot are not compatible with ART yet. Hopefully Android 4.5/5.0 (whichever they decide) will make ART stable as hell and be able to be used 100% of the time.
So because we have a CM phone we've got the option ALREADY to start using the ART runtime instead of the dalvik one.
My question is: Has anyone tried it? As the warning message that comes up is pretty scary but the fact that it's happening in Android L makes it sound like it's a pretty safe bet to start using it now.
Actually all kitkat builds that have developer options enabled have the option to switch to art. Quite a few apps don't support art yet, like xposed, so I'm not switching yet.
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Not sure what you mean, Android L use ART exclusively, but it is backward compatible with Dalvik apps.
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So because we have a CM phone we've got the option ALREADY to start using the ART runtime instead of the dalvik one.
My question is: Has anyone tried it? As the warning message that comes up is pretty scary but the fact that it's happening in Android L makes it sound like it's a pretty safe bet to start using it now.
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im running on ART. its built into kitkat, just not on default like it will be with android L. loving it, great battery and super speedy.
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Actually all kitkat builds that have developer options enabled have the option to switch to art. Quite a few apps don't support art yet, like xposed, so I'm not switching yet.
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Thanks, I use that app too so I'll not use ART just yet. What apps do you use with xposed btw? (PM if you need)
Slingbox with ART
The last time I tried ART the Slingbox app would not work so I had to go back. I've read that Slingbox is coming out with an update to their Android App in late July. I don't know if it will address this but I'll probably try again after that update.
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Thanks, I use that app too so I'll not use ART just yet. What apps do you use with xposed btw? (PM if you need)
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i dont need things like gravity box since the phone is already running cyanogenmod. but i have things like statusbar scroll to top, and rootclock, and a thing to default the youtube app to my subscriptions. ones i want working that are not are appopsxposed which crashes when you try to set permissions, and nfc lockscreenoff enabler which isnt unlocking my phone with an nfc tag.
When I select ART it doesn't stick on reboot. Every time it comes back as Dalvik.
Can anyone offer any thoughts on what might be holding it back?
CM11s, Franco r7 kernel, TWRP 2.7.1.0
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AJ RIMMER! said:
When I select ART it doesn't stick on reboot. Every time it comes back as Dalvik.
Can anyone offer any thoughts on what might be holding it back?
CM11s, Franco r7 kernel, TWRP 2.7.1.0
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It wont stick if you are running xposed... known issue
http://www.androidauthority.com/android-l-xposed-401408/
That would explain it. Cheers.
CM11s. Franco r7 Kernel. TWRP 2.7.1.0
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Running ART since I've had my Nexus 5 and still doing it with my OPO, no problems. The benefits are definitely worth it for me, makes SwiftKey less laggy when it comes to opening up the list of emojis.
All sorted now.
I had to reinstall Xposed, and uninstall the framework from inside the app, then uninstall the installer again.
Working nicely.
I've been running in ART since I got my hands on it...... Huge difference in performance. Everything seems to snap faster.
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Just wondering, I actually switched to ART but since I just got the device not sure I notice any improvements.
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Just wondering, I actually switched to ART but since I just got the device not sure I notice any improvements.
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To be honest the differences are barely noticeable and from what I understand it has to do with the way both process are cached. Bottom line is, with ART the apps load a little faster and you save a little more battery. The downside is, no xposed.
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To be honest the differences are barely noticeable and from what I understand it has to do with the way both process are cached. Bottom line is, with ART the apps load a little faster and you save a little more battery. The downside is, no xposed.
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Yea so far so good, battery life seems good. I dont miss xposed yet. Maybe instagram downloader
why doesn't xposed work? will it have support for art sooner or later?
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why doesn't xposed work? will it have support for art sooner or later?
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Xposed isn't compatible with ART. If it wants to continue existing, then it'll need to work with ART for Android L.