So because we have a CM phone we've got the option ALREADY to start using the ART runtime instead of the dalvik one.
My question is: Has anyone tried it? As the warning message that comes up is pretty scary but the fact that it's happening in Android L makes it sound like it's a pretty safe bet to start using it now.
Actually all kitkat builds that have developer options enabled have the option to switch to art. Quite a few apps don't support art yet, like xposed, so I'm not switching yet.
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Not sure what you mean, Android L use ART exclusively, but it is backward compatible with Dalvik apps.
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So because we have a CM phone we've got the option ALREADY to start using the ART runtime instead of the dalvik one.
My question is: Has anyone tried it? As the warning message that comes up is pretty scary but the fact that it's happening in Android L makes it sound like it's a pretty safe bet to start using it now.
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im running on ART. its built into kitkat, just not on default like it will be with android L. loving it, great battery and super speedy.
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Actually all kitkat builds that have developer options enabled have the option to switch to art. Quite a few apps don't support art yet, like xposed, so I'm not switching yet.
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Thanks, I use that app too so I'll not use ART just yet. What apps do you use with xposed btw? (PM if you need)
Slingbox with ART
The last time I tried ART the Slingbox app would not work so I had to go back. I've read that Slingbox is coming out with an update to their Android App in late July. I don't know if it will address this but I'll probably try again after that update.
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Thanks, I use that app too so I'll not use ART just yet. What apps do you use with xposed btw? (PM if you need)
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i dont need things like gravity box since the phone is already running cyanogenmod. but i have things like statusbar scroll to top, and rootclock, and a thing to default the youtube app to my subscriptions. ones i want working that are not are appopsxposed which crashes when you try to set permissions, and nfc lockscreenoff enabler which isnt unlocking my phone with an nfc tag.
When I select ART it doesn't stick on reboot. Every time it comes back as Dalvik.
Can anyone offer any thoughts on what might be holding it back?
CM11s, Franco r7 kernel, TWRP 2.7.1.0
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AJ RIMMER! said:
When I select ART it doesn't stick on reboot. Every time it comes back as Dalvik.
Can anyone offer any thoughts on what might be holding it back?
CM11s, Franco r7 kernel, TWRP 2.7.1.0
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It wont stick if you are running xposed... known issue
http://www.androidauthority.com/android-l-xposed-401408/
That would explain it. Cheers.
CM11s. Franco r7 Kernel. TWRP 2.7.1.0
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Running ART since I've had my Nexus 5 and still doing it with my OPO, no problems. The benefits are definitely worth it for me, makes SwiftKey less laggy when it comes to opening up the list of emojis.
All sorted now.
I had to reinstall Xposed, and uninstall the framework from inside the app, then uninstall the installer again.
Working nicely.
I've been running in ART since I got my hands on it...... Huge difference in performance. Everything seems to snap faster.
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Anyone else having issues using the unicon module for xposed? Installed it correctly multiple times but still saying that its not activated even though it is. Any help would be appreciated guys
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Anyone else having issues using the unicon module for xposed? Installed it correctly multiple times but still saying that its not activated even though it is. Any help would be appreciated guys
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Something to do with it not being updated to support the newer Xposed framework that you need to make things work on Kit Kat.
Ah that sucks. Really wanna change the icons but stick to the ge launcher
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Ah that sucks. Really wanna change the icons but stick to the ge launcher
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I don't understand the appeal of the stock launcher. There are quite a few other apps that do everything it does x 10, like Nova or Apex Launchers. Have never seen an issue with lag or crashes with Nova and it's not difficult to add the Google Now stuff with the latest Google Search widgets and all that.
Ah I just much prefer how it is implemented, the Google now screen to the left is the only reason I favour it amongst other launchers. I've tried some of the widgets but they aren't the same :/
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I don't understand the appeal of the stock launcher. There are quite a few other apps that do everything it does x 10, like Nova or Apex Launchers. Have never seen an issue with lag or crashes with Nova and it's not difficult to add the Google Now stuff with the latest Google Search widgets and all that.
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I actually don't like launchers that have too many options. The last thing I want to spend tons of time customizing is a launcher, and the stock launcher is simple, fast, and effective. Plus, I've gotten used to having Google Now right on the left panel much quicker than I thought I would. I don't like not having it on Apex or Nova.
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Anyone else having issues using the unicon module for xposed? Installed it correctly multiple times but still saying that its not activated even though it is. Any help would be appreciated guys
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are you using ART ?
Nope. I can get it to work using an older version of xposed framework but then none of the other modules work on the older version :/
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Just kind of seems like a non issue since you've probably spent more time figuring out why Unicon isn't working than it would have to set up another launcher. You can set up Google Now to open a ton of different ways that are as fast or faster than saying, "OK, Google" and the launcher is only as much effort to set up as you feel like putting into it. No one forces you to play with all the Settings and you can import the desktop grid from most launchers. But, that's what makes people flock to Android: choices. To each their own, and all that. Unfortunately, this is just 1 particular issue that doesn't have a perfect answer to get everything you need without much effort or some sort of compromise. Either an older Xposed with not many other mods or a different launcher. There are ways to enable Google Now hotwords on other launchers and to even get it to work while screen is off, but it is a rather convoluted way to do it and if you don't want to spend 10 minutes setting up a new launcher, then I'm gonna assume it's too much bother to go that route if you are really set on a different icon set.
I never said time was an issue for me. Its just more convenient to have unicon working
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Any ROMs with Pie cooked in? Really surprised not to see this yet. GB is just too glitchy to make it a viable option. Thanks
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I don't think so. I like that feature but I can understand it not being at the top of any dev's to-do list. I would keep an eye on Paranoid Android and SlimKat.
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Any ROMs with Pie cooked in? Really surprised not to see this yet. GB is just too glitchy to make it a viable option. Thanks
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GravityBox glitchy? That's news to me. I use it on all three of my Android devices (N5, N7, Moto X) and haven't had a single issue on any of them. The expanded desktop + PIE control works great.
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Any ROMs with Pie cooked in? Really surprised not to see this yet. GB is just too glitchy to make it a viable option. Thanks
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Can you elaborate on that? I haven't had any glitches with GB at all.
For me, every reboot causes the nav bar to reappear and then pie doesn't work. There was something else too but it has been a month since I used it last. And of course you can't use ART with Xposed
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And of course you can't use ART with Xposed
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Yeah, that's mainly what's keeping me from using Xposed. Now that I've used ART for a while I just can't go back to Dalvik.
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For me, every reboot causes the nav bar to reappear and then pie doesn't work. There was something else too but it has been a month since I used it last. And of course you can't use ART with Xposed
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That's weird, I don't have that issue. Were you using expanded desktop or just setting your navbar height to zero? I have expanded desktop with PIE tied to a quicksettings toggle and it always goes back into whatever state I had it in after a reboot. Then again, it'll stay after a reboot if I shrink it to zero as well. What version of GravityBox are/were you on?
Try lmt launcher. It has a fully customizable pie.
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Yeah, that's mainly what's keeping me from using Xposed. Now that I've used ART for a while I just can't go back to Dalvik.
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Ha opposite for me
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Was searching through dev settings when to my surprise I saw dalvik/art. Anybody want to share their experiences so far? Improvements or bugs?
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Was searching through dev settings when to my surprise I saw dalvik/art. Anybody want to share their experiences so far? Improvements or bugs?
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I just turned ART on so I would like to know as well...
I haven't had any apps that didn't like ART yet. Definitely makes things faster/smoother having the apps pre-compiled.
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ART is part of KK so yes, it would be included. I turned it on and things are really smooth. Loving my M8.
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ART is part of KK so yes, it would be included. I turned it on and things are really smooth. Loving my M8.
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Just because it's part of KitKat doesn't mean it's guaranteed to be included; the HTC One M7 didn't have it because Sense 5.5 and below weren't optimized for it.
However, I just switched to ART to see how it runs - so far everything has been smooth but then again I only switched about 2 hours ago.
I used art on my i605 and Toro. Saw more of a difference on those phones. This phone is just too smooth for art I disabled it not long after enabling because a couple of my apps don't get along with it.
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I used art on my i605 and Toro. Saw more of a difference on those phones. This phone is just too smooth for art I disabled it not long after enabling because a couple of my apps don't get along with it.
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What apps if you don't mind sharing with the rest of us?
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What apps if you don't mind sharing with the rest of us?
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Threes. Order of chaos. A few older Gameloft games as well. And then some misc apps that have been abandoned.
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Polaris Office Viewer doesnt seem to work with ART. Also the camera began to become a little finicky for some reason. had to switch back
I was using ART for a bit but honestly I don't see any speed improvements over dalvik on this phone. My DNA yes, it was night and day, but on this it's snappy as hell either way. I switched back to dalvik to use xposed
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Arts been working great with no issues for 3 days.
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Why can't you use xposed if you use art
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Why can't you use xposed if you use art
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Because art is experimental and can change before final release. It is a lot of work to port xposed to art and the dev does not want to waste his time.
i tried last night. took FOREVER to reboot and then go through starting all the apps. then my tap to wake and gestures didnt work. i went back to dalvik and all is fine. did i need to let set in and cool off?? and yes the phone is stupid smooth normal can art make even smoother? idk
I've enabled art myself took forever to start up actually was getting a tad irritated then it finally came back on in my opinion it runs a little smoother haven't had any problems at all with apps
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Had anyone tried enabling ART in developer options? If so, what were the results? Just wondering if its worth a try.
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Had anyone tried enabling ART in developer options? If so, what were the results? Just wondering if its worth a try.
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I had Nexus 5 before this S5, Ive tried ART with some mixed results. With ART on Nexus 5, everything seems smoother and some battery effects (but may be placebo). With S5, everything seems similar in regards to smooth yet FCs from some installed apps like Connection Optimizer and few others. This is very brief on advantages/disadvantages. Its more like a personal preference when people choose one over the other, Dalvik/ART, but you'll have to test yourself and see what you think, form your own opinion about it. Honestly, I'd test it now before Android 4.5/5.0 comes with it by default runtime. Some say no, some say yes, its definitely though agreed to be in development and has a lot of potential towards being great.
wait until the next major android version before using ART, it's not stable enough yet, and there are many apps not compatible with it.
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wait until the next major android version before using ART, it's not stable enough yet, and there are many apps not compatible with it.
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Bingo. It's not stable enough and many apps you know, lov, and use a lot are not compatible with ART yet. Hopefully Android 4.5/5.0 (whichever they decide) will make ART stable as hell and be able to be used 100% of the time.
Just wondering, I actually switched to ART but since I just got the device not sure I notice any improvements.
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Just wondering, I actually switched to ART but since I just got the device not sure I notice any improvements.
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To be honest the differences are barely noticeable and from what I understand it has to do with the way both process are cached. Bottom line is, with ART the apps load a little faster and you save a little more battery. The downside is, no xposed.
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To be honest the differences are barely noticeable and from what I understand it has to do with the way both process are cached. Bottom line is, with ART the apps load a little faster and you save a little more battery. The downside is, no xposed.
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Yea so far so good, battery life seems good. I dont miss xposed yet. Maybe instagram downloader
why doesn't xposed work? will it have support for art sooner or later?
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why doesn't xposed work? will it have support for art sooner or later?
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Xposed isn't compatible with ART. If it wants to continue existing, then it'll need to work with ART for Android L.