Had anyone tried enabling ART in developer options? If so, what were the results? Just wondering if its worth a try.
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hendav said:
Had anyone tried enabling ART in developer options? If so, what were the results? Just wondering if its worth a try.
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I had Nexus 5 before this S5, Ive tried ART with some mixed results. With ART on Nexus 5, everything seems smoother and some battery effects (but may be placebo). With S5, everything seems similar in regards to smooth yet FCs from some installed apps like Connection Optimizer and few others. This is very brief on advantages/disadvantages. Its more like a personal preference when people choose one over the other, Dalvik/ART, but you'll have to test yourself and see what you think, form your own opinion about it. Honestly, I'd test it now before Android 4.5/5.0 comes with it by default runtime. Some say no, some say yes, its definitely though agreed to be in development and has a lot of potential towards being great.
wait until the next major android version before using ART, it's not stable enough yet, and there are many apps not compatible with it.
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sarreq said:
wait until the next major android version before using ART, it's not stable enough yet, and there are many apps not compatible with it.
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Bingo. It's not stable enough and many apps you know, lov, and use a lot are not compatible with ART yet. Hopefully Android 4.5/5.0 (whichever they decide) will make ART stable as hell and be able to be used 100% of the time.
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MOD EDIT: DO NOT FLASH THE FILE IN THAT ARTICLE, IT IS FOR INTERNATIONAL S3 ONLY!
I can't wait to see what the ROM devs do with this!
Includes some of the non hardware based goodies that the S4 has.
" New features include a familiar array of lock screen widgets and unlock effects, new display modes, a re-tooled quick settings area in the notification pull-down, a new driving mode and an updated version of the S Voice assistant app. Some of the headline Galaxy S4 features like "Air view" hover-touch abilities aren't included -- that's because they're dependent on the S4's internal hardware."
http://m.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-android-422-firmware-leaked-galaxy-s4-features
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I can't wait to see what the ROM devs do with this!
Includes some of the non hardware based goodies that the S4 has.
" New features include a familiar array of lock screen widgets and unlock effects, new display modes, a re-tooled quick settings area in the notification pull-down, a new driving mode and an updated version of the S Voice assistant app. Some of the headline Galaxy S4 features like "Air view" hover-touch abilities aren't included -- that's because they're dependent on the S4's internal hardware."
http://m.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-android-422-firmware-leaked-galaxy-s4-features
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4.2.2 has been on AOSP for awhile now..
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Deliquified said:
4.2.2 has been on AOSP for awhile now..
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I'm pretty sure that everyone knows that already. Although thank you for pointing it out.
While AOSP is more cutting edge, I like simple functions like Bluetooth volume working correctly as it does on TW.
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I'm pretty sure that everyone knows that already. Although thank you for pointing it out.
While AOSP is more cutting edge, I like simple functions like Bluetooth volume working correctly as it does on TW.
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Works just fine on ktoonsez's kernel.. Just used it earlier today.
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Works just fine on ktoonsez's kernel.. Just used it earlier today.
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I have it on my other S3, along with ktoonsez's kernel. While the volume seems to be acceptable, I still get the static and clicking every now and then.
This post is not to compare TW with AOSP, some do like TW based roms.
Rob
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I have it on my other S3, along with ktoonsez's kernel. While the volume seems to be acceptable, I still get the static and clicking every now and then.
This post is not to compare TW with AOSP, some do like TW based roms.
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I'm saying ktoonz does have a tw version of his kernel if that's what you prefer. You could try using the ViPER4Android app and mess with the settings to clean that up. I'm sure someone in that thread could point you to good settings. In not sure if fauxsound amplifies BT, but you could try that as well.
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I'm saying ktoonz does have a tw version of his kernel if that's what you prefer. You could try using the ViPER4Android app and mess with the settings to clean that up. I'm sure someone in that thread could point you to good settings. In not sure if fauxsound amplifies BT, but you could try that as well.
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Your previous posts were pointing out that AOSP was already at 4.2.2.
I must admit, I'm a bit confused.
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Your previous posts were pointing out that AOSP was already at 4.2.2.
I must admit, I'm a bit confused.
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Just wanted to point you in the right direction to fix your Bluetooth issue either through ktoonz's touchwiz kernel, fauxsound app, or ViPER4Android app. You may need to tweak the settings a bit to your liking as i don't know how severe your issue is. Could be the phone hardware, a software issue, a rom issue, or the Bluetooth headset itself causing it. It's not something that's easy to troubleshoot online. Sorry if i lost you, I'm a bit sleep deprived. Sorry if I was vague or rude. On that note, bedtime. Hope you get your issue resolved.
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Just wanted to point you in the right direction to fix your Bluetooth issue either through ktoonz's touchwiz kernel, fauxsound app, or ViPER4Android app. You may need to tweak the settings a bit to your liking as i don't know how severe your issue is. Could be the phone hardware, a software issue, a rom issue, or the Bluetooth headset itself causing it. It's not something that's easy to troubleshoot online. Sorry if i lost you, I'm a bit sleep deprived. Sorry if I was vague or rude. On that note, bedtime. Hope you get your issue resolved.
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I've never had the Bluetooth issue with a TW ROM, only AOSP.
Thank you for the insight though. Get some rest.
So once the International version gets the official update, we can probably expect to see it 3 or 4 months later thanks to Verizon.
I just read that article and watched the video. Looks like aosp but with a few design tweaks. It would be nice if they just fixed the keyboard in the update. Ha
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I wish Verizon would leak more updates. Other phones I have had in the past had new roms almost every week. The Galaxy S3 has been a big disappointment in factory updates, released hardware, and support. Once Samsung neglected to release a decent wireless charge option and Verizon cold shouldered its users, I don't think I'll go back to Samsung. I miss my HTC.
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I wish Verizon would leak more updates. Other phones I have had in the past had new roms almost every week. The Galaxy S3 has been a big disappointment in factory updates, released hardware, and support. Once Samsung neglected to release a decent wireless charge option and Verizon cold shouldered its users, I don't think I'll go back to Samsung. I miss my HTC.
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I was looking into inductive charging. Verizon apparently offers a cover....but I can't find it.
Ha and yea the Verizon variant might see this update in September or November and it will most likely have all the cool things removed.....it's almost like they want everyone to root their phones
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And that's why we root our S3's!
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So once the International version gets the official update, we can probably expect to see it 3 or 4 months later thanks to Verizon.
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That's an awfully optimistic time frame.........lol - guessing more like 6 months if at all. Still waiting on that premium suite.
Hobson318 said:
That's an awfully optimistic time frame.........lol - guessing more like 6 months if at all. Still waiting on that premium suite.
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At this point I'm willing to bet they will save both for one update
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Im glad to see the mod edit. I was wondering who would be the first to flash it and super concrete brick their device.
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Was searching through dev settings when to my surprise I saw dalvik/art. Anybody want to share their experiences so far? Improvements or bugs?
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wtoj34 said:
Was searching through dev settings when to my surprise I saw dalvik/art. Anybody want to share their experiences so far? Improvements or bugs?
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I just turned ART on so I would like to know as well...
I haven't had any apps that didn't like ART yet. Definitely makes things faster/smoother having the apps pre-compiled.
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ART is part of KK so yes, it would be included. I turned it on and things are really smooth. Loving my M8.
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ART is part of KK so yes, it would be included. I turned it on and things are really smooth. Loving my M8.
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Just because it's part of KitKat doesn't mean it's guaranteed to be included; the HTC One M7 didn't have it because Sense 5.5 and below weren't optimized for it.
However, I just switched to ART to see how it runs - so far everything has been smooth but then again I only switched about 2 hours ago.
I used art on my i605 and Toro. Saw more of a difference on those phones. This phone is just too smooth for art I disabled it not long after enabling because a couple of my apps don't get along with it.
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wtoj34 said:
I used art on my i605 and Toro. Saw more of a difference on those phones. This phone is just too smooth for art I disabled it not long after enabling because a couple of my apps don't get along with it.
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What apps if you don't mind sharing with the rest of us?
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c5satellite2 said:
What apps if you don't mind sharing with the rest of us?
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Threes. Order of chaos. A few older Gameloft games as well. And then some misc apps that have been abandoned.
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Polaris Office Viewer doesnt seem to work with ART. Also the camera began to become a little finicky for some reason. had to switch back
I was using ART for a bit but honestly I don't see any speed improvements over dalvik on this phone. My DNA yes, it was night and day, but on this it's snappy as hell either way. I switched back to dalvik to use xposed
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Arts been working great with no issues for 3 days.
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Why can't you use xposed if you use art
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shawnten said:
Why can't you use xposed if you use art
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Because art is experimental and can change before final release. It is a lot of work to port xposed to art and the dev does not want to waste his time.
i tried last night. took FOREVER to reboot and then go through starting all the apps. then my tap to wake and gestures didnt work. i went back to dalvik and all is fine. did i need to let set in and cool off?? and yes the phone is stupid smooth normal can art make even smoother? idk
I've enabled art myself took forever to start up actually was getting a tad irritated then it finally came back on in my opinion it runs a little smoother haven't had any problems at all with apps
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Hi! So I just rooted my N5, flashed Franco Kernel, Xposed+Gravity Box. So after this when I'm at the home screen there is an ever so slight lag when I click the recents button or go home from app tray, etc. So basically it kind of lags on the home screen, no widgets or anything. Is this my fault and is there anything I can do to fix it? Thanks!
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mess with the settings, find what you like. if youre still unhappy, try a different kernel, or different rom. try a few, find what you enjoy and what fills your needs. then youll be trully happy
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mess with the settings, find what you like. if youre still unhappy, try a different kernel, or different rom. try a few, find what you enjoy and what fills your needs. then youll be trully happy
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Okay I'll try to fix this or I'll flash a rom. I think it's Gravitybox that's making this beauty lag.
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It is gravity box. I quit using it for the same reason. Now, if I want features like what GB offers, I just use slimkat... Which has most if not all plus more hard coded
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It is gravity box. I quit using it for the same reason. Now, if I want features like what GB offers, I just use slimkat... Which has most if not all plus more hard coded
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Oh I knew it may have been the culprit! Well I think I may just flash a custom rom for the features and avoid the lag. Thanks for the awesome advice!
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So because we have a CM phone we've got the option ALREADY to start using the ART runtime instead of the dalvik one.
My question is: Has anyone tried it? As the warning message that comes up is pretty scary but the fact that it's happening in Android L makes it sound like it's a pretty safe bet to start using it now.
Actually all kitkat builds that have developer options enabled have the option to switch to art. Quite a few apps don't support art yet, like xposed, so I'm not switching yet.
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Not sure what you mean, Android L use ART exclusively, but it is backward compatible with Dalvik apps.
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So because we have a CM phone we've got the option ALREADY to start using the ART runtime instead of the dalvik one.
My question is: Has anyone tried it? As the warning message that comes up is pretty scary but the fact that it's happening in Android L makes it sound like it's a pretty safe bet to start using it now.
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im running on ART. its built into kitkat, just not on default like it will be with android L. loving it, great battery and super speedy.
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Actually all kitkat builds that have developer options enabled have the option to switch to art. Quite a few apps don't support art yet, like xposed, so I'm not switching yet.
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Thanks, I use that app too so I'll not use ART just yet. What apps do you use with xposed btw? (PM if you need)
Slingbox with ART
The last time I tried ART the Slingbox app would not work so I had to go back. I've read that Slingbox is coming out with an update to their Android App in late July. I don't know if it will address this but I'll probably try again after that update.
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Thanks, I use that app too so I'll not use ART just yet. What apps do you use with xposed btw? (PM if you need)
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i dont need things like gravity box since the phone is already running cyanogenmod. but i have things like statusbar scroll to top, and rootclock, and a thing to default the youtube app to my subscriptions. ones i want working that are not are appopsxposed which crashes when you try to set permissions, and nfc lockscreenoff enabler which isnt unlocking my phone with an nfc tag.
When I select ART it doesn't stick on reboot. Every time it comes back as Dalvik.
Can anyone offer any thoughts on what might be holding it back?
CM11s, Franco r7 kernel, TWRP 2.7.1.0
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AJ RIMMER! said:
When I select ART it doesn't stick on reboot. Every time it comes back as Dalvik.
Can anyone offer any thoughts on what might be holding it back?
CM11s, Franco r7 kernel, TWRP 2.7.1.0
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It wont stick if you are running xposed... known issue
http://www.androidauthority.com/android-l-xposed-401408/
That would explain it. Cheers.
CM11s. Franco r7 Kernel. TWRP 2.7.1.0
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Running ART since I've had my Nexus 5 and still doing it with my OPO, no problems. The benefits are definitely worth it for me, makes SwiftKey less laggy when it comes to opening up the list of emojis.
All sorted now.
I had to reinstall Xposed, and uninstall the framework from inside the app, then uninstall the installer again.
Working nicely.
I've been running in ART since I got my hands on it...... Huge difference in performance. Everything seems to snap faster.
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Just wondering, I actually switched to ART but since I just got the device not sure I notice any improvements.
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Just wondering, I actually switched to ART but since I just got the device not sure I notice any improvements.
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To be honest the differences are barely noticeable and from what I understand it has to do with the way both process are cached. Bottom line is, with ART the apps load a little faster and you save a little more battery. The downside is, no xposed.
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To be honest the differences are barely noticeable and from what I understand it has to do with the way both process are cached. Bottom line is, with ART the apps load a little faster and you save a little more battery. The downside is, no xposed.
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Yea so far so good, battery life seems good. I dont miss xposed yet. Maybe instagram downloader
why doesn't xposed work? will it have support for art sooner or later?
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why doesn't xposed work? will it have support for art sooner or later?
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Xposed isn't compatible with ART. If it wants to continue existing, then it'll need to work with ART for Android L.