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Recovery and continuing development

Does anyone know if a custom recovery is coming and if development beyond JCase's root exploit is occurring?

Give it time.... Locked bootloader is the issue..
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So, you don't know
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J2theMatt said:
So, you don't know
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no one knows... not even Jcase or MattGrolof (sp?) LOL
if you've rooted and downloaded the Xposed Installer.. install and activate GravityBox... if you haven't already.
It gives A LOT of features to the phone that we are used to from all the various roms weve used over the last few phones. (CM, Elemental X, Xenon, Carbon, SlimBean, etc., etc.) All on stock LOL im almost tempted to say screw unlocking the bootloader and not installing a custom rom because I have the stability and battery life of stock..but with the features I loved on my Razr HD but without random reboots.. I just want some inverted system apps like Contacts, and MMS...but i can wait LOL

Thank you for the constructive reply
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Keep in mind that, although the DE for the Maxx exists, no one has it. I ordered mine day one, and it hasn't shipped yet.
I feel you on the impatience though.
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No problem at all..i know we all want stuff to come out the day the phone does..thats why I waited so long to get my RazrHD because I wanted to unlock the bootloader and rom it from Day 1 LOL but I also knew that these phones Ultra/Maxx/Mini/MotoX are pretty much vanilla android out of the box.. so there isn't much modification needed to make them close to AOSP phones..

Got my DE Maxx today and Dhacker has CWM and TWRP on the Moto x thread. If development picks up for x and ultra you will have to watch both threads as it seems people are leaning towards the x, however it is nearly identical software to the maxx so they will most likely be interchangeable. I.E. the moto x CWM works on my DE Maxx.

theycallmerayj said:
Got my DE Maxx today and Dhacker has CWM and TWRP on the Moto x thread. If development picks up for x and ultra you will have to watch both threads as it seems people are leaning towards the x, however it is nearly identical software to the maxx so they will most likely be interchangeable. I.E. the moto x CWM works on my DE Maxx.
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Yeah!! Using moto X's CWM on my Maxx and works perfectly!!
Is there someone who can clear as to how similar both the devices are and up to what extent we can flash moto x's files?! I mean could we flash custom ROMs as well, is by switching kernels or something?! Or is it just gonna be like a leap of faith?!
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What's the difference between the regular Moto G and the GPE?

Hi.
I am probably going to purchase a Moto G soon and want to make sure I get the correct one. Obviously no one has the Google Play edition yet, but what do you think the differences could be between the Moto G from Motorola and the GPE version? I know that the GPE won't have any of Motorola's preinstalled apps, but are there differences in the code or anything? Thanks, any help is appreciated.
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It is the same Smartphone as far as wie know at the moment Like you said nobody has it just now. gpe is full aosp without modification
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It will not differ much with the reular Moto G is guess as its almost stock too with a few handy extras.

I'm guessing the main and most noticeable difference will be the easily unlockable boot loader for the GPE and that it won't have the moto apps. Idk and maybe slightly faster updates than the moto version??
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The main advantage of a Play Edition Moto G would appear to be its ability to get timely updates. The firstAndroid 4.4 KitKat update rolled out to Moto G devices just last week, which means that it trailed the original 4.4 launch by a couple of months. The Play Edition will likely get updates much faster
Also
GPE replaces highly modded phones with unmodded stock aosp
As moto g was near stock aosp... NOT many changes will be seen
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jamstar.5 said:
GPE replaces highly modded phones with unmodded stock aosp
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They are hardly stock AOSP anymore. It appears it doesn't come with the AOSP messaging app but uses Hangouts and it may also come with the new Google Dialer. So while a lot of it is based on AOSP, GPE is much more than that.

Original Moto G is more AOSP than GPE.

jamstar.5 said:
The main advantage of a Play Edition Moto G would appear to be its ability to get timely updates. The firstAndroid 4.4 KitKat update rolled out to Moto G devices just last week, which means that it trailed the original 4.4 launch by a couple of months. The Play Edition will likely get updates much faster
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GPE replaces highly modded phones with unmodded stock aosp
As moto g was near stock aosp... NOT many changes will be seen
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Hmm, the Moto G was released after 4.4, so it doesn't really count.

Which one is better? I want moto apps like active display,smart actions etc.

Moto G GPE will already have 4.4 out of the box
Moto G GPE is Fully Vanilla AOSP
Moto G GPE has Stock Camera APP not the modified one
Moto G GPE has no Motorola Assist
Moto G GPE might get faster Updates then Moto G cause it is more naked than naked as our Moto G already is
Hope this will be flashable on our normal Moto G's
And much better it would be if we then can get GPE's OTA updates

The google play edition will get updates in days rather than months.
Also, it will get official updates further into the future than the normal Moto G. Normal Moto G might not get anything further than 4.4.x.
It will also have none of the Motorola junk, hence it will not slow down over time.
I really wish Motorola launches this in India also. Since Google play store is already selling devices in India, they just need to add one more.

What about active display?

Moto G has none of the extra features of Moto X.
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Will we be able to flash gpe Rom to normal Moto G?
Is that possible with other gpe phones?

It should be straight forward to flash the GE rom to our Moto G's as the hardware same & the software is near enough stock Android as it is, & we won't be loosing much compared to the GE additions of the HTC One & Samsung Galaxy S4, but gaining an advantage of quicker updates when available .

Descendent182 said:
Will we be able to flash gpe Rom to normal Moto G?
Is that possible with other gpe phones?
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Of course, they are identical apart from some software missing in the GPE.

theoneofgod said:
Of course, they are identical apart from some software missing in the GPE.
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Is there any chance to work missing software on GPE?

Dhiraj said:
Is there any chance to work missing software on GPE?
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Probably.

No FM Radio on GPE.
https://support.google.com/playedition/answer/4484953?hl=en&ref_topic=4484885
Features not included
FM Radio
Motorola Assist
Motorola Boot Services
Motorola Camera
Moto Care/Help
Motorola Connect
Motorola Device ID
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mikereidis said:
No FM Radio on GPE.
https://support.google.com/playedition/answer/4484953?hl=en&ref_topic=4484885
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But i guess it would be no problem to extract the apk and install it on the GPE right?

Possible to turn non GPe into a GPe?

Will it be possible to turn my unlocked U.S GSM Moto G into a Google Play Edition with it being able to receive OTA updates from Google?
My Moto G is all stock atm.
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it should be possible by soon, just as its possible for HTC one and GS4 to turn into their google edition roms.
I just hope it's possible for dual sim as well since the google edition one is only out in single sim version

ztmike said:
Will it be possible to turn my unlocked U.S GSM Moto G into a Google Play Edition with it being able to receive OTA updates from Google?
My Moto G is all stock atm.
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you will likely need to unlock your bootloader but other than that, it should absolutely be possible.

And I'll need root, correct? I remember when I had my at&t HTC one that you couldn't just flash the GPe edition ROM for OTA updates you had to do something else for that..
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ztmike said:
And I'll need root, correct?
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Most likely not. But we will not know until they post the rom.

why would you want to do this ?

cra1g321 said:
why would you want to do this ?
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Why not? Some people may appreciate the Google Dialer or the pure Nexus experience.

cra1g321 said:
why would you want to do this ?
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New dialer, no bloatware, full list of system languages (like Russian for example)
I am waiting for such conversion guide. I did the same with my HTC One before.
UPD: As I am using Nexus 5 I want only stock Android on my other devices . Because 4.4.2 is awesome ) I really enjoy it.

Thanks for the replies, i wasn't asking it to sound rude,
just didnt know what the differences where.

I don't know about u guys but I have the Google dialer on my stock-non rooted US GSM moto g. On 4.4... It's the same one as my nexus 4...
So besides the camera software and no Motorola features/ apps (which I find cool/ useful like the battery saver) there's really no difference.... Yeah software updates... Whatever.
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gabo_e30 said:
I don't know about u guys but I have the Google dialer on my stock-non rooted US GSM moto g. On 4.4... It's the same one as my nexus 4...
So besides the camera software and no Motorola features/ apps (which I find cool/ useful like the battery saver) there's really no difference.... Yeah software updates... Whatever.
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It's a win win situation for Moto G owners.

cra1g321 said:
why would you want to do this ?
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Faster Android updates and probably outlast Motorola's updates..as OEMs typically stop putting out updates once another device comes and steals the thunder.
As for the dailer I think that's still exclusive to the Nexus 5 where it shows a picture based on the number which it gets from a automatic Google search I think..possibly more features.
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ztmike said:
Faster Android updates and probably outlast Motorola's updates..as OEMs typically stop putting out updates once another device comes and steals the thunder.
As for the dailer I think that's still exclusive to the Nexus 5 where it shows a picture based on the number which it gets from a automatic Google search I think..possibly more features.
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IMO we don't know yet if GPE versions will actually be faster.
Moto mostly just added a few Moto apps for their OEM version. That's why they had 4.4 ready so fast I think.
And the reality with GPE is that the OEM, Motorola, is actually responsible for the work.
So Moto could decide to release simultaneous or delay one or the other.
If they ship both OEM and GPE 4.5's shortly after Android 4.5 is announced, that will make them look good (and will be good), and I'd bet that's part of their plan.

An unlocked Moto X can have the bootloader unlocked and then have different firmwares flashed to it. For example, I had a Moto X from Mexico...sim unlocked. I unlocked the bootloader, of course voiding the warranty and I flashed the ATT firmware to it. So I basically converted it to a ATT Moto X. Which is similar to converting a ATT HTC One to a GPe HTC One etc.
Nevertheless, because our Moto G's bootloader can be unlocked and we can flash firmwares etc once it unlocked, I'm assuming we'll be able to flash the GPe Firmware to our Moto G..
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Why we should use custom ROM for Moto G ?

Moto G is already on latest kit kat with hardly any bloatware and you can root, install custom recovery and can also use gravity box for extra customization/modification which custom ROMs offer so my question is
Why we still need custom ROMS for moto G? Is it just habit of people to try different ROMS(flasholic) or we actually need them?

Personally, stock rom root, and Xposed framework + modules is enough for me, for now
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Not to mention the fact that, once you root, you can remove the bloatware. I removed Migrate and Assist with no issue at all.

Multi window, halo, quick controls, full theme support
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pisherthefisher said:
Multi window, halo, quick controls, full theme support
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Xposed
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jamstar.5 said:
Xposed
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Show me an xposed mod that has full multi window support and theme support as strong as CM and omnirom
Protip: there is none

theoneofgod said:
Personally, stock rom root, and Xposed framework + modules is enough for me, for now
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Thats what i have right now

pisherthefisher said:
Multi window, halo, quick controls, full theme support
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Multiwindow? Like that of note 2/3?
which custom ROM offer multi window support?

Rajaasim1980 said:
Multiwindow? Like that of note 2/3?
which custom ROM offer multi window support?
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Yes similar to the note. It's a feature of Omnirom, but is found on other Roms too. We don't have an omnirom port right now, but if you want to try out multiwindow this ROM also has it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2620709
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pisherthefisher said:
Yes similar to the note. It's a feature of Omnirom, but is found on other Roms too. We don't have an omnirom port right now, but if you want to try out multiwindow this ROM also has it http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2620709
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interesting..no i was curious i dont think i will use multi wndow on such small screen of moto g as i already own note 2 but never used multiwindow or spen
but i see that these ROMS have plenty of other bugs so you get one thing at the cost of others. I have noticed a strange trend on xda. Those devices who dont need much development for example nexus and those who are close to AOSP get more support of developers while those devices who need development like lg g2 get hardly any attention

Rajaasim1980 said:
interesting..no i was curious i dont think i will use multi wndow on such small screen of moto g as i already own note 2 but never used multiwindow or spen
but i see that these ROMS have plenty of other bugs so you get one thing at the cost of others. I have noticed a strange trend on xda. Those devices who dont need development for example nexus and those who are close to AOSP get more support of developers while those device who need development like lg g2 get hardly any attention
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That's because the nexus devices are really open and easy to develop with, this attracts developers. The LG G2 is more locked down and it discourages developers from even trying.
I wouldn't worry though, the moto g is just as open as nexus devices and I predict it will get a lot of development in the near future, as well as official cyanogenmod support.

pisherthefisher said:
That's because the nexus devices are really open and easy to develop with, this attracts developers. The LG G2 is more locked down and it discourages developers from even trying.
I wouldn't worry though, the moto g is just as open as nexus devices and I predict it will get a lot of development in the near future, as well as official cyanogenmod support.
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I was going to say the same thing, I think for cm 11 we need a retainer and such
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I have no desire to modify my G at this time, or in the near future. It runs perfectly and does everything I want. If down the road it becomes "stale" from lack of update support, then I'll consider it.

Only xposed for me. I had always the feeling that odexed is faster than deodexed anyway.
The guys from ex-themer said this device will be supported with the next major release so then you will have your themes
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Benefits of flashing stock 4.4.4 rom

Hello,
I am currently running SlimKat stable build 7 with elemental x. My nexus 5 has been unlocked, rooted and been running custom roms since 4.4.1. I have flashed the 4.4.4. Radio recently and it's been working good.
Will i benefit from flashing a stock Rom apart from the Radio?? Will flashing stock fix any bugs I might have even though I'v e been running SlimKat with no problems at all.
Thanks.
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Mojar7070 said:
Hello,
I am currently running SlimKat stable build 7 with elemental x. My nexus 5 has been unlocked, rooted and been running custom roms since 4.4.1. I have flashed the 4.4.4. Radio recently and it's been working good.
Will i benefit from flashing a stock Rom apart from the Radio?? Will flashing stock fix any bugs I might have even though I'v e been running SlimKat with no problems at all.
Thanks.
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If slimkat is running without problems why flash stock?
The old saying don't fix what isn't broken:good:

Mojar7070 said:
Hello,
I am currently running SlimKat stable build 7 with elemental x. My nexus 5 has been unlocked, rooted and been running custom roms since 4.4.1. I have flashed the 4.4.4. Radio recently and it's been working good.
Will i benefit from flashing a stock Rom apart from the Radio?? Will flashing stock fix any bugs I might have even though I'v e been running SlimKat with no problems at all.
Thanks.
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I must admit I simply don't understand what you're getting at here. You say Slimkat is running good, why change it? If you go to stock you'll lose features. Most ROMs are about as stable as stock by now anyways.

and radios and roms are completely unrelated. you can flash whatever custom rom, none of them include radios. radios are a separate flash.

Very true. SlimKat at has been really stable for me. Its more of planning for the next Android OS release. Maybe something I'm not seeing or experiencing but might cause problems later on.
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simms22 said:
and radios and roms are completely unrelated. you can flash whatever custom rom, none of them include radios. radios are a separate flash.
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This is my point exactly, even though I flashed the radio, it doesn't apply to the Rom and it's features.
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TheLastSidekick said:
I must admit I simply don't understand what you're getting at here. You say Slimkat is running good, why change it? If you go to stock you'll lose features. Most ROMs are about as stable as stock by now anyways.
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I understand I'll lose the features, but maybe there are certain "codes" that the stock Rom has and custom does not.
You are right though, most custom roms are very stable already.
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Mojar7070 said:
I understand I'll lose the features, but maybe there are certain "codes" that the stock Rom has and custom does not.
You are right though, most custom roms are very stable already.
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As far as I know, there's no good reason to return to stock. People still on stock generally have had problems in the past with other ROMs and prefer the guaranteed stability of stock. I know Franco one of our kernel developers uses stock with his kernels and his reason given was because it's the only ROM that can support everyone the way he intended and guarantees it works properly.

Mojar7070 said:
I understand I'll lose the features, but maybe there are certain "codes" that the stock Rom has and custom does not.
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If you don't know what these "codes" are or how they affect your experience then they should be irrelevant to you.

Wakamatsu said:
If you don't know what these "codes" are or how they affect your experience then they should be irrelevant to you.
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Sounds like a plan. Thanks.
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TheLastSidekick said:
As far as I know, there's no good reason to return to stock. People still on stock generally have had problems in the past with other ROMs and prefer the guaranteed stability of stock.
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This is why I am on stock. Seems like everytime I go with a custom ROM I eventually end up getting annoying system UI FCs. Very rarely ever get it on stock. Would love to ask what ROMs are the most stable so I can experiment, but alas that's not allowed so I'll stick with stock, but rooted.

scottharris4 said:
This is why I am on stock. Seems like everytime I go with a custom ROM I eventually end up getting annoying system UI FCs. Very rarely ever get it on stock.
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I too experienced this. Until I discovered Rastakat and for some reason, never had any weird problems after that.

TheLastSidekick said:
I too experienced this. Until I discovered Rastakat and for some reason, never had any weird problems after that.
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What is Rastakat?

scottharris4 said:
What is Rastakat?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541185
[ROM] RASTAKAT [Android 4.4.4_r1 KTU84P] [PRODUCT_DEVICE := hammerhead] + Vanilla
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scottharris4 said:
What is Rastakat?
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A custom ROM in Original Development.

TheLastSidekick said:
I too experienced this. Until I discovered Rastakat and for some reason, never had any weird problems after that.
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Never had one that wasn't my own doing.
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rootSU said:
Never had one that wasn't my own doing.
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I mean it very well could be my own doing, but the same things I generally did on other ROMs that produced some errors didn't on Rastakat. I guess everyone finds their true ROM in the end, lol.

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I mean it very well could be my own doing, but the same things I generally did on other ROMs that produced some errors didn't on Rastakat. I guess everyone finds their true ROM in the end, lol.
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I'm not familiar with Rastakat, so how is their history with ROM development? I ask because I don't want to flash it and then before long they just stop official development (like what happened with CyanogenMod on my Moto G).

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I'm not familiar with Rastakat, so how is their history with ROM development? I ask because I don't want to flash it and then before long they just stop official development (like what happened with CyanogenMod on my Moto G).
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I guess the only way to describe is to see for yourself. Go check out the thread. All of the users there constantly help each other.

TheLastSidekick said:
I guess the only way to describe is to see for yourself. Go check out the thread. All of the users there constantly help each other.
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hi i am new to nexus 5 , just wanted to know what is the build date on the offical stock kernel 4.4.4.,mine is mon-mar- 17/ 15.16.36 PDT 2014, could you please tell me if i am on the right version build date , regards joe,