Hi,
I am not sure if this is the right place to post this question, probably not? Please replace.
I now have a Galaxy S2 with android 2.3, with ubuntu 12.04 desktop running on it(complete linux installer), together with an MHL adapter I can have a dektop experience on every screen that has HDMI input.
But, OTG does not work on my S2(ROM thing I think?), anyway OTG and MHL simultaniously would never work, because of the 5 pin usb restriction.
Anyway, I want to buy a new phone, but I am not sure which one to buy, I have done a lot of research, but missing some parts.
What I want:
- Kitkat google edition, because it's so clean right?
- OTG and MHL(HDMI out) simultanious, for mouse, keyboard, hdd, a lot of other usb devices and hdmi out.
- Full Ubuntu desktop running
In the first place I would buy a Nexus 5, because of Kitkat Google edition. Maybe later one of the first phones with "official ubuntu for android by Canonical", snapdragon 800 processor 2.2 GHz quad-core 2GB Ram, but, it has only 16GB or 32GB, which is not extendable! And not simultanious OTG and MHL(HDMI out) support, so I cannot add an usb stick or a HDD when I am connected to a screen. Conclusion very limited memory.
Then the other option is the Samsung S4 I9505, snapdragon 600 1.9 GHz quad-core(little bit slower), 2GB ram, extendable memory. And the great thing is that the S4 has a 11 pin usb, this way you can connect the official SAMSUNG multimedia dock(3x usb, hdmi, mini-jack, charging). I would like to run Kitkat google edition on it, then my next question is, would linux/ubuntu run on this? Because I saw that people had some problems with running ubuntu desktop version on the S4?
Conclusion:
Nexus awesome phone, but does not support OTG and MHL at the same time, which results in memory limitation!
S4 a little bit slower, but has it all, the question is, would the S4 with Kitkat google edition run linux on anroid image?
The thing I want to have a full desktop experience, with your phone as base, and experience on every screen you want to. When I am at school, in the train, at home(desktop place), at home(as smart tv or so), add a coreless tablet/touchscreen later?
Or these the only option? Any other genius ideas?
Cheers
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Hugely disappointed in the absence of an iPad-like USB plug allowing cameras, drives, etc. to be accessed via the usb port, I thought for a moment and realized something. I know an alright amount when it comes to hardware vs. software questions and know that USB otg is not necessarily a hardware issue...the Motorola Xoom was released with Honeycomb and it supports USB Host. Now that very early versions of Honeycomb have been ported to the Galaxy Tab, theoretically shouldn't that mean it now supports USB Host mode (or at least in the near future)? Any thoughts and comments would be greatly appreciated as I'm aware that there are many others waiting for this awesome capability for their tab!!
With past versions of android already fully supporting USB host, I don't see why they don't other than they want you to buy the version with the largest storage space... Android should in theory already have the support as it is an update to the existing android not a new os completely... I feel mostly its just a dirty marketing scheme... (Note: My Archos 101 has a full sized USB port on it with full functionality...)
My 7 isn't a bad tablet at all. But there are times when I have to dock and transfer files and I have read the 10.1 does have that feature.
Wondering for those that have made the jump if there is an upgrade in overall quality and faster performance. Thanks in advance. Searched for similar threads but nothing came up dating back to May.
jkhawk said:
My 7 isn't a bad tablet at all. But there are times when I have to dock and transfer files and I have read the 10.1 does have that feature.
Wondering for those that have made the jump if there is an upgrade in overall quality and faster performance. Thanks in advance. Searched for similar threads but nothing came up dating back to May.
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Man, you have a large selection of 10.1 tablets to choose from. They all are nice, but the ultimate desicion will be on you and what you are looking for. You have these options:
Samsung Galaxy 10.1
- This one is like an iPad clone.
- Thin and light.
- Has no expansion ports native to it. You have to get a cable adapter from Samsung.
Motarola Xoom
- This was the first 10.1.
- Has microSD port, but it did not initially work (I think an update is out and it does now)
- Has microUSB port
- Has microHDMI port
Asus Transformer
- Has microSD port
- Has MicroHDMI port
- Has keyboard docking station with full size USB ports and extra battery (cost extra)
Acer Iconia
- Has Full size USB port
- Has microSD port
- Has microHDMI port
Toshiba Thrive
- Has full size USB port
- Has full size SD port
- Has full size HDMI port
Levono IdeaPad
- New player on the market
- Full size USB port
- Mini HDMI port
- 3-in1 card reader (at least on some sites it says so)
There are different screens and memory options from 8GB to 32 GB. The Toshiba will support a 128GB SD card. All run the same guts under the screen and all are Android 3.x. Reading the forums, all have some type of software issue and a lot of tablets have had GPS issues. I think I have listed them from lightest to heaviest. Each have thier pluses and each have thier minuses. All alow you to hook up to a PC and transfer data. The ones with the external micro or SD slot allow you to transfer directly or inderctly to the SD card. Hope this helps. The bottom line is what features do you want and how much do you want to spend. Look them all over and decide.
Hi
I have a small desk for my monitor and laptop (lenovo T420 win7 64bit). At the moment I have a displayport to hdmi cable, but the plug is sticking out over the edge - so the dog hits it
Therefore I was wondering, can I use an Android unit as wireless display receiver for my Windows 7 PC ?
I have searched the internet - and MiraCast is one option , but i am not sure my T420 supports it - and it should be somehow buggy
At the moment I have a noname RK3066 HDMI stick (Android 4.1) not super stable though, and a SonyEricsson Arc S (LT18i) with HDMI, a Galaxy S3 with MHL adapter.
Since I work a lot in worksheets it is important the stick runs full HD (1920x1080) but my laptop screen only supports 1600x900 - and offcourse the text is clear and crisp. And it is also important It should auto launch, so I do not have to click the device every time.
My Wifi is 802.11n
Thank you all for any reply (and sorry for my bad English)
anglerdk said:
Hi
I have a small desk for my monitor and laptop (lenovo T420 win7 64bit). At the moment I have a displayport to hdmi cable, but the plug is sticking out over the edge - so the dog hits it
Therefore I was wondering, can I use an Android unit as wireless display receiver for my Windows 7 PC ?
I have searched the internet - and MiraCast is one option , but i am not sure my T420 supports it - and it should be somehow buggy
At the moment I have a noname RK3066 HDMI stick (Android 4.1) not super stable though, and a SonyEricsson Arc S (LT18i) with HDMI, a Galaxy S3 with MHL adapter.
Since I work a lot in worksheets it is important the stick runs full HD (1920x1080) but my laptop screen only supports 1600x900 - and offcourse the text is clear and crisp. And it is also important It should auto launch, so I do not have to click the device every time.
My Wifi is 802.11n
Thank you all for any reply (and sorry for my bad English)
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I have a 803iv by rikomagik. It's a rk3188 so it "should" be fast. Miracast was a joke from my phone, and that's two android devices. Good luck with Windows cross platform incompatibilities. I install home theaters and residential & commercial electronics, and unless a technology is standardised industry wide (like HDBaseT or even 802.11) you're SOL on interoperability. Your best bet would be a DLNA or a kit (sender & receiver), not a hodgepodge with android/Windows and resolution issues.
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WAIT, a T420 has WiDi...that IS miracast...which IS a standard. have you gone into the stick settings and turned it on and just tried it? The only problem might be crappy chineese implementation...that's why I figured mine did not work. That or my custom firmware...
I have tried the omega rom on my sgs3 (since non stock rom doesn't have HDMI/ mhl out) and mirrorop receiver app and windows mirrorop sender . This works, not flawlessly since there is some delay and sound is not playing 100% fluid. I have to test this further.
I cannot make my laptop find my sgs3 through the Intel widi software, so standard widi receiver / miracast isn't working (yet)
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so can android's hdmi out work like IN to show?
I think that hardware doesnt support it.
Have a look at splashtop streamer. It might be suitable for your needs
Edit: the app is actually called Spacedesk. I just had a look aty tablet. I was able to use my Samsung tablet as an extra screen for my laptop
I have a new Chuwi V10HD 3G dual OS Windows 8.1 and Android KitKat 4.4. This only has a micro USB 2.0 port - no other I/O ports.
I want to be able to use the capability of the USB OTG 2.O spec - if I understand it correctly - to be able to attach and utilize an external USB 2.0 device (for example, hard drive, flash drive, keyboard, mouse, USB to Ethernet adapter, external display, etc.) while simultaneously charging the Chuwi tablet.
Chuwi says the port is a USB OTG 2.0 spec.
Hours of internet searching gives mixed impressions of whether this can be done.
More hours reading posts here on xda-developers also yields conflicting views and experiences. Some members describe how they've had success by using various Y adaptors or multi-port devices - or even hard wiring their own cables. Others say they've tried that approach with no love. Still others say the OTG spec doesn't allow for that and that it's physically impossible to do both at once.
Then there's the Pluggable Pro 8 docking station which, for a hefty price, says it will charge while connecting external devices.
What is the current state of the offerings now? Does any product really offer a solution now? Is it even possible?
To a layman like me, it doesn't seem like this should be so hard and shrouded in such mystery. <sigh>
Hi there,
You'd be best served asking for help from the experts who own your device, here:
Chuwi vi10 10.6" z3736F dual boot windows 8.1 + android 4.4
Good luck
Hello,
before I begin explaining my issue, I would like to apologie for my bad english.
I sometimes like to use my phone like notebook: connect mouse and keyboard to it. Z3 have OTG capability, so it(s fine. But one thing is not: ethernet adapters after updating to 6.0.1 using this doesn't seems to work.
First of all: i've thought, that you either have OTG or not. Not just for some devices. That it works like regular USB. It seems not. I have USB 3.0 powered hub conected to OTG cable and to the hub I've connected keyboard and mouse and tried to cennect already 5 different USB 3.0 gigabit ethernet adapters. They didn't work. On Android 5.1.1 worked my (all in one) USB OTG ethernet hub (3 USB 2.0, ethernet connector, micro USB wit OTG), but it was not powered, so I decided to upgrade.
Why? Simple. Power. I do this because for few day in near future I will be without my notebook (dedicated GPU is broken, i will have new one). I've been like this already for 3 days. And if i've been using my phone with keyboard and mouse (only use, which is comfortable for long time), I've noticed that is not possible to run this on battery. So my idea was to take as much as i can from the phone: controls and internet connection, and power that externally. And in addition buy the docking station and use the dock charging port. I've did all of this. And it works like magic: phone is powered from charger. All the time you might ask, why the hell I just don't use built in WiFi. Energy. That is the reason. WiFi just eat too much: if I pull up brightness of display and actually DO something on that phone, even wit plugged in docking charger, it just drain power faster, than charger charging (measured). For some reason the dock charging give about 0,45 A, not full 1,5 or something like that. Keyboard and mouse eats about 0,3 A, with some ethernet adapter it would be about 0,5 A. SO…a lot of power.
Android is based on Linux, so I have question (and I pretty much know the answer): is there ANY way how to install drivers for ethernet adapter on Z3? I obviously have root, I know about some terminal apps. But if I google this, it gives me only how to install drivers for phone on PC. That is not very helpful. I thing that this is most likelly impossible.
So I've searched something like list of supported devices. No suprise there: no relevant results. Sony Z3 AND Android 6.0.1 AND OTG device list, is probably too specific question.
Another idea what I had is try to use USB 2.0 adapters. You see, I wanted USB 3.0 (even though Z3 have only 2.0 (I still don't get it. Why the hell?)), because they have 1 Gb networks and I could use this adapter sometimes later for different device, like super thin notebook (if I ever would need some light device for travels). Another thing is the fact that 100 Mb is slow for large file transfer (movies and so on, so I have some entertainment, when I will not have my ntb). USB 2.0 can handle up to 480 Mb (in real life more like 300 Mb tops), which is still more than that network. But at this point I just gived up on this, and I will be happy if any ethernet adapter will work.
SO…do you know about any custom ROM, which would handle that? OTG USB ethernet support. Because not even that thing, which worked under 5.1.1 doesn't work under 6.0.1.
Sorry for long post, I needed to give you lot of informations, and why's.
Update
Update 0: OTG USB ethernet adapters doesn't work only on 6.0.1 or on this based ROM's. USB 3.0 doesn't work at all, but USB 2.0 works just fine on 5.1.1.
So…5.1.1 is most likelly the version, which I will be using. 6.0.1 has certain advantages, sure, but to me it seems like completely stupid to remove support for OTG USB ethernet adapters. More devices should be supported in nwer version, not less. And the inablity to remove bloatware even with root… No, this is just wrong. SO I buy my phone, but I have to have some apps, which I don't want and don't use? Ehm…no?
Update 1: I've decided doing it little bit differently. I've installed this ROM. I like how debloated it is, and many other things. USB ethernet adapter doesn't work (obviously), OS doesn't even know that something like ethernet exist. So I decided to try build my own drivers (by compiling source code) or app, or something. Any help is welcome.
Update 2: I currently have this thing. It's just USB 2.0 and 100 Mb/s, but…whatever. Tested on 5.1.1, transfers was 3× faster than on Wi-Fi and batery-enery-usage free (this is why I do this). Now, as stated before, I am on 6.0.1. That ethernet adapter has source code drivers available here. But here is the thing: they keep saing that
the support of this function must be included by the manufacturer directly in the particular Android device
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(source) and the source code page saying that it is supported up to Android 5. So…what has changed in Android 6? Why the support is gone? And what will happend if I will try do something in Android studio?
Hello do you have z3 or z3+? I used to Havre z3 and with Lollipop ethernet became broke after 5.1.x I think so I had to reroll kitkat..I gave it away and now I am thinking to buy one z3+ but was fearing Ethernet won't work because it comes delivered with lollipop but now your post gives hope that it is still available. Other phones also have Ethernet capabilities but I found Sony best ... only the loudspeakers are not clear enough for me ... here you find a list with models that support Ethernet
http://plugable.com/products/usb2-otge100/
mrkapqa said:
Hello do you have z3 or z3+? I used to Havre z3 and with Lollipop ethernet became broke after 5.1.x I think so I had to reroll kitkat..I gave it away and now I am thinking to buy one z3+ but was fearing Ethernet won't work because it comes delivered with lollipop but now your post gives hope that it is still available. Other phones also have Ethernet capabilities but I found Sony best ... only the loudspeakers are not clear enough for me ... here you find a list with models that support Ethernet
http://plugable.com/products/usb2-otge100/
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Hello, I have also tested ethernet adapter and it does not work with 6.01 on xperia z1, huawei p9 lite, lenovo yoga 3 tablet.
In xperia z1 with 5.1.1 it works correctly. Something has happened with 6.01 but anyway not all phones or tablets with 5.1.1 work because lenovo yoga 3 with 5.1.1 does not recognize the ethenet adapter.
I think the manufacturer is responsible for not working when it does not integrate the necessary drivers and does not support ethernet. It is the conclusion I came to verify that not all 5.1.1 recognize ethernet adapter and in 6.01 I read that some if you comment that the adapter works (especially in nexus and motorola).
What would be interesting is what comrade BiPentHexium says to be able to include in our room the ethernet support being root.
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On the list of models that support the ethernet adapter, it only refers to the Plugable brand adapter and is based on the reports of its customers. But in that list does not appear the xperia z1 and I can confirm that it works correctly with ethernet adapter (I do not have the plugable)