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Hi everyone,
Thought I would start a thread about what things people are using with their S4s.
A few findings of mine from today:
The Smart Dock works with the S4.
The S3/Note 2 MHL adapters definitely work
The S4 MHL 2.0 adapter works without needing a charging input plugged in and IS outputting at 60Hz
USB audio working, although some DACs not working that did work with S3/Note 2 (Apex Glacier not working for me, my HeadAmp Pico and RSA Intruder are)
USB keyboards/mice working with the S4, as they did with the older Samsungs
PS3 controller working over USB OTG (although mapping seems odd, have to try it in an emulator)
Ditto for the Xbox 360 for Microsoft controller (which required an app on older Samsungs in order to work)
Interesting, tried my Logitech F310 controller with it and it works too (it does not work with any other Android handset without USB/BT Joystick Centre, but here works OOTB). The F710 probably works too in that case.
BT keyboard and mouse working, as expected.
IR blaster via the inbuilt app works great with my LG TV.
Logitech F710 works too.
MHL and USB OTG do not work together using the new MHL 2.0 adapter for the S4.
NTFS formatted drives still don't work on stock ROMs. Shame since my Padfone Infinity has it OOTB.
Moga Pro gamepad working well
Tried an ethernet adapter yesterday evening: no-go. Need to check its documentation again because I suspect it requires driver installation. Have order a couple of driverless ethernet adapters that are confirmed to work with several Android tablets and will give them a go when they arrive.
Additional info on ethernet: can pretty much definitively say ethernet is not working I think. Tried today with a new adapter (that works perfectly on the Padfone Infinity in phone and pad modes, since I tried that first), does not work with S4 with or without an externally powered USB hub.
Will chime in with more when I have a chance to try more stuff out.
On the s4 MHL adapter: I find it amazing that the hdmi can carry plenty of juice to keep the s4 and the MHL adapter topped up on power. The knock off on sale at amazon still says to use external power.
Have you tried miracast yet?
BT Keyboard/mouse?
Hi, could someone please tell me if the Galaxy S4 and the new MHL 2.0 adapter allow HDMI and USB OTG at the same time using the micro usb port on the MHL 2.0 adapter? Very keen to know! Cheers!
testinguser said:
On the s4 MHL adapter: I find it amazing that the hdmi can carry plenty of juice to keep the s4 and the MHL adapter topped up on power. The knock off on sale at amazon still says to use external power.
Have you tried miracast yet?
BT Keyboard/mouse?
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First post updated, BT keyboard and mouse working as expected.
Not tried miracast yet.
IR blaster works a treat with my LG TV.
Definitely works without power with the S4, although it doesn't charge the phone at all used like that (unless of course you have an MHL-capable TV, I don't).
Hi NZtechfreak if you could test the MHL 2.0 adapter and USB OTG at the same time that would be great
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Hi NZtechfreak if you could test the MHL 2.0 adapter and USB OTG at the same time that would be great
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As noted above, doesn't work. Only way to do that simultaneously is still the Smart Dock.
I have a couple of questions.
1) Does the smart dock outputs 60Hz or this is achievable only with the mhl 2.0 adapter?
2) Is 60Hz mode noticeably better?
3) Any slowdowns or delays, while mirroring the display?
Thanks in advance.
maxnik1 said:
I have a couple of questions.
1) Does the smart dock outputs 60Hz or this is achievable only with the mhl 2.0 adapter?
2) Is 60Hz mode noticeably better?
3) Any slowdowns or delays, while mirroring the display?
Thanks in advance.
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I need to spend more time with it to answer those, will definitely update soon.
Regarding slowdowns - found it pretty smooth, which was a relief because the Xperia Z lagged horribly over MHL.
UPDATE:
1) Does the smart dock outputs 60Hz or this is achievable only with the mhl 2.0 adapter? Only the MHL 2.0 adapter can do 60Hz.
2) Is 60Hz mode noticeably better? Yes, compared them directly today, found scrolling webpages and so forth noticeably smoother on MHL 2.0.
Used a Moga Pro controller with my S4 to play some GTA while mirroring over MHL 2.0, nice! Still playing around with the Moga, but enjoying so far.
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MHL and USB OTG do not work together using the new MHL 2.0 adapter for the S4.
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[edit]Disappointing to hear =(
I've gotten a lot of use out of this OTG microSD adapter. The native "My Files" app on the S4 instantly recognizes it as USB storage.
http://dx.com/p/c310-otg-tf-card-re...er-for-samsung-i9100-i9300-i9220-n7100-174106
My FiiO E17, works perfectly with the OTG and S4 . sadly my DACMini and DACPort doesn't work
S3 didn't work for the E17 .
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Disappointing to hear =(
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Yeah, only way is to use the Smart Dock.
Could somebody please test if a USB to Ethernet adapter works via OTG cable?
Cheers
man im confussed a lil, i never used the mhl adapter with my s3,but today i bought a mhl to hdmi adaptor i have a samsung 3d tv its from 2011 i think,anyway the brand is pipeline says worsk with samsung supports upto 1080p uncompressed hd video and 7.1 surround, i tried frist without the power plugged into it,wouldnt recognize even a input on the tv, plugged power in it saw an input i could select it on the tv but said check the power source or cable,is there something else i need to enable on the phone to work?or do i need to have a SAMSUNG adaptor?
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Actualy I just found out samsung uses 11 pin configuration so u need a samsung adapter
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Has anyone tried the adapter from monoprice yet?
i just returned the pipeline mhl to hdmi adapter and got the samsung one from best buy works perfect, 11 pins is a must
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Has anyone tried the adapter from monoprice yet?
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does it have 11 pins?
just to add something ive used,i have the moga game controller that connects bluetooth works perfect,and last night i messed around with the mhl to hdmi adapter and had it hooked up to the tv and was playing games on the tv using the moga controller ran so so smooth felt like i was playing an xbox, i do have a question if anyone can answer about the mhl i have a yamaha surround sound,usually i use a fiber connetion from what ever device tv, cable,blue ray, whatever, so the reciever u can send hdmi threw it so u can take the device into the reciver and then theres and out to the tv to get the picture witch worked with the phone,but i couldn't get and audio to come out of my surround sound it came out of the tv but i want the surround to work,whats my best option any help would be appreciated
Imagine my surprise when I connected mine to my MS Surface pro. It was immediately recognized, nothing to install and I was able to browse contents of both internal storage and my microSD card!
Whats a recommended OTG cable to get ?
The projectors at my work place only have VGA connection. I finally found a converter for the HDMI connector for the Note 8.
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It cost US$35 and it came with its power adapter and HDMI cable. It has an audio out in the device to connect to a sound system. The analog VGA connection only accommodates graphics, hence the audio jack. This was imported from China sold over in the Philippine market. I was constantly checking for one for the last couple of months to be used for live drawing demonstrations.
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TheNeighbor101 said:
The projectors at my work place only have VGA connection. I finally found a converter for the HDMI connector for the Note 8.
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It cost US$35 and it came with its power adapter and HDMI cable. It has an audio out in the device to connect to a sound system. The analog VGA connection only accommodates graphics, hence the audio jack. This was imported from China sold over in the Philippine market. I was constantly checking for one for the last couple of months to be used for live drawing demonstrations.
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Nice find!
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This is the setup using the HDMI to VGA converter:
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wow, i like this setup
Great. Where did you find this in the PHilippines?
TheNeighbor101 said:
The projectors at my work place only have VGA connection. I finally found a converter for the HDMI connector for the Note 8.
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It cost US$35 and it came with its power adapter and HDMI cable. It has an audio out in the device to connect to a sound system. The analog VGA connection only accommodates graphics, hence the audio jack. This was imported from China sold over in the Philippine market. I was constantly checking for one for the last couple of months to be used for live drawing demonstrations.
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Great, I've been looking for an HDMI to VGA converter that works and is also small. Most of the one's I found are huge and kinda defets the purpose of a portable device. Please tell what store or where you found this converter. Thanks a lot!
UPDATE: SORRY JUST LOOKED at the PICS! thanks....which mall outlet exactly? the outlets I visited only have the really huge "box type" version. Thanks.
ProjectER said:
Great, I've been looking for an HDMI to VGA converter that works and is also small. Most of the one's I found are huge and kinda defets the purpose of a portable device. Please tell what store or where you found this converter. Thanks a lot!
UPDATE: SORRY JUST LOOKED at the PICS! thanks....which mall outlet exactly? the outlets I visited only have the really huge "box type" version. Thanks.
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I got this at the CDR King SM Dasmarinas. It's a new product at P1500+, and then I saw one with another make without the need of a power supply at the Acer store at SM MOA for half the price the other day!
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Thanks for the quick response
TheNeighbor101 said:
I got this t the CDR King SM Dasmarinas. It's a new product at P1500+, and then I saw one with another make without the need of a power supply at the Acer store at SM MOA for half the price the other day!
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Wow, a cheaper one at half the price w/ no need for a power supply? That's great. Is it also a cdr-king product? Or an acer product? Is there an exact name for the store at MOA or just acer? Still not sure that the one at the acer store will work (lot's of those powerless converters lying around that don't actually work costing 800 or more, plus they don't have an audio plug like the one you have on your unit).
Btw, how's the cdr-king converter? Build wise/quality? Does it over heat after prolonged use? I'm really interested in it. Hope to connect it not just to the note 8 but to an android mini pc like the MINIX NEO G4.
I'm also thinking of connecting the the note 8/minix & this converter to an external battery/power pack to minimize the need for too many plugs. Do you suppose it might work (or tried it for yourself?)
Thanks a lot for your very helpful post and your quick response. I was losing hope that I would ever be able to connect android to a…regular monitor/projector.
TheNeighbor101 said:
I got this at the CDR King SM Dasmarinas. It's a new product at P1500+, and then I saw one with another make without the need of a power supply at the Acer store at SM MOA for half the price the other day!
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ProjectER said:
Wow, a cheaper one at half the price w/ no need for a power supply? That's great. Is it also a cdr-king product? Or an acer product? Is there an exact name for the store at MOA or just acer? Still not sure that the one at the acer store will work (lot's of those powerless converters lying around that don't actually work costing 800 or more, plus they don't have an audio plug like the one you have on your unit).
I'm also thinking of connecting the the note 8/minix & this converter to an external battery/power pack to minimize the need for too many plugs. Do you suppose it might work (or tried it for yourself?)
Thanks a lot for your very helpful post and your quick response. I was losing hope that I would ever be able to connect android to a…regular monitor/projector.
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Please beware of the fact that the non powered HDMI to VGA converters don't really work with the Note 8.0 MHL to HDMI. I am not sure why....but they don't, probably the MHL doesn't give enough power to run the converter. I tried and it didn't work.
That's not to say that Non powered converter never works, when you connect to a regular HDMI port like of a laptop, it works very well, and mine also had an audio out. Had to return it with a lot of difficulty.
If you just want to connect a note 8.0/note 2/S3 to a VGA input, take a look at this as well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2248575
Only one MHL to VGA adapter and a 5 pin to 11 pin adapter needed. Also, only a single power source required, much simpler.
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ProjectER said:
Wow, a cheaper one at half the price w/ no need for a power supply? That's great. Is it also a cdr-king product? Or an acer product? Is there an exact name for the store at MOA or just acer? Still not sure that the one at the acer store will work (lot's of those powerless converters lying around that don't actually work costing 800 or more, plus they don't have an audio plug like the one you have on your unit).
Btw, how's the cdr-king converter? Build wise/quality? Does it over heat after prolonged use? I'm really interested in it. Hope to connect it not just to the note 8 but to an android mini pc like the MINIX NEO G4.
I'm also thinking of connecting the the note 8/minix & this converter to an external battery/power pack to minimize the need for too many plugs. Do you suppose it might work (or tried it for yourself?)
Thanks a lot for your very helpful post and your quick response. I was losing hope that I would ever be able to connect android to a…regular monitor/projector.
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As Agambhandari has warned, it looks like the unpowered type will probably will NOT work! The CDR King with the power adapter works quite fine, and has an audio out anyway. It doesn't produce any heat and I have tested it to an HD tv and projector. It's working fine with good audio out - probably why it needs to be powered. The only thing I find frustrating is the power adapter is not a micro USB type of connector, like for the Note 8. So you really need to plug in for its power source, hence you cannot power it with your external battery pack unless you have that exact plug adapter (USB to the round power plug).
One problem I encountered is the video ratio. It cannot adjust the 10:16 ratio to my old 3:4 Viewsonic monitor, and everything is just stretched vertically. My old monitor doesn't have the option to match the 10:16 of the Note 8. It works fine with contemporary lcd tvs and the projector since they match the 10:16 ratio and they have options to adjust.
Yes, the ₱1,580 CDR King HDMI to VGA converter is worth the buy. You only need to be careful of buying the correct 11-pin micro USB to HDMI adapter for the Note II/S3/S4/Note 10.1/Note. The old micro USB to HDMI adaptor that worked with the Note 1 will not work for the Note 8.
You need to hurry up or else stocks run out and it's usually months till they stock up on these.
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Thanks for all the input.
TheNeighbor101 said:
As Agambhandari has warned, it looks like the unpowered type will probably will NOT work! The CDR King with the power adapter works quite fine, and has an audio out anyway. It doesn't produce any heat and I have tested it to an HD tv and projector. It's working fine with good audio out - probably why it needs to be powered. The only thing I find frustrating is the power adapter is not a micro USB type of connector, like for the Note 8. So you really need to plug in for its power source, hence you cannot power it with your external battery pack unless you have that exact plug adapter (USB to the round power plug).
One problem I encountered is the video ratio. It cannot adjust the 10:16 ratio to my old 3:4 Viewsonic monitor, and everything is just stretched vertically. My old monitor doesn't have the option to match the 10:16 of the Note 8. It works fine with contemporary lcd tvs and the projector since they match the 10:16 ratio and they have options to adjust.
Yes, the ₱1,580 CDR King HDMI to VGA converter is worth the buy. You only need to be careful of buying the correct 11-pin micro USB to HDMI adapter for the Note II/S3/S4/Note 10.1/Note. The old micro USB to HDMI adaptor that worked with the Note 1 will not work for the Note 8.
You need to hurry up or else stocks run out and it's usually months till they stock up on these.
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thanks again to TheNeighbor101 and Agambhandari for your great inputs. I agree that Agambhandari's set up is simpler when connecting the note 8 in particular (at least one less power cord). However, i also want this adapter as a multpurpose adapter, so i can connect any tablet with an HDMI out to a projecter or even (as I said earlier) an android mini pc. I used to think that HDMI was so out of the ordinary to be practical when every laptop had a vga port but now that tablets have become mainstream, how i wish HDMI ports were more common place in everyday projectors (how quickly the future creeps up on us)...
I realized that an android mini pc is cheaper (smaller like a big usb flash drive) to just leave connected to a projector while you mirror your presentation from the note 8. Kingsoft office is great with this especially with the floating notes in presentation mode (you see your speaker notes on the multiwindow of the note 8 but it stays hidden on the mirroring device). I wouldn't want to leave the note 8 connected/chained to the projector while you're at the podium/stage. Am still saving up for the set up. Will post feed back if i hopefully get it working....
btw: i'm using the generic 11-pin for the note 8 (it works, tried it on the tv). I thought that the new 11 pin allows for simultaneous charging of the note 8/note2/S3/S4 (as compared to the original 5 pin which didn't)...however, when plugged in, it just seems to power the mhl-hdmi cable. the note 8 shows a charging icon but continues to discharge (bat levels number continues to go down) despite being plugged to a socket? is this becuase it's a generic cable? If I use the true samsung cable will that charge the note 8 and power the mhl cable?
Thanks again to you both....you saved me a ton of effort. More power to XDA
ProjectER said:
thanks again to TheNeighbor101 and Agambhandari for your great inputs. I agree that Agambhandari's set up is simpler when connecting the note 8 in particular (at least one less power cord). However, i also want this adapter as a multpurpose adapter, so i can connect any tablet with an HDMI out to a projecter or even (as I said earlier) an android mini pc. I used to think that HDMI was so out of the ordinary to be practical when every laptop had a vga port but now that tablets have become mainstream, how i wish HDMI ports were more common place in everyday projectors (how quickly the future creeps up on us)...
I realized that an android mini pc is cheaper (smaller like a big usb flash drive) to just leave connected to a projector while you mirror your presentation from the note 8. Kingsoft office is great with this especially with the floating notes in presentation mode (you see your speaker notes on the multiwindow of the note 8 but it stays hidden on the mirroring device). I wouldn't want to leave the note 8 connected/chained to the projector while you're at the podium/stage. Am still saving up for the set up. Will post feed back if i hopefully get it working....
btw: i'm using the generic 11-pin for the note 8 (it works, tried it on the tv). I thought that the new 11 pin allows for simultaneous charging of the note 8/note2/S3/S4 (as compared to the original 5 pin which didn't)...however, when plugged in, it just seems to power the mhl-hdmi cable. the note 8 shows a charging icon but continues to discharge (bat levels number continues to go down) despite being plugged to a socket? is this becuase it's a generic cable? If I use the true samsung cable will that charge the note 8 and power the mhl cable?
Thanks again to you both....you saved me a ton of effort. More power to XDA
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I use a non-Samsung micro USB to HDMI adapter too. It's practically the same thing and quality but at half the price. It slows down the power consumption. It's charging but the rate of incoming charge is lower than the discharging of the battery to power the screen and processing. Try charging it through the adapter with screen turned off or without connecting to an HDMI as an experiment to see this.
If that's your case, my advice is you get the Samsung AllShareCast dongle for only ₱3,800 and connect to the VGA adapter. This is a strong recommendation, unless the Android pc has a wifi hotspot capability, you need to rely on the local network to operate with RemoDroid (only works on rooted) and the frame rate is low and laggy for live sketching or markups. Videos can't show on the projected screen.
The AllShareCast dongle is perfect. Practically shows no image delay. I plan to get one myself for a big presentation around August as I'll be presenting an architectural design to a group of people. I'll need to sketch to get my points across.
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Are you using the stock note 8.0 charger which has a 2.0 A rating?
Your case also happened to me but then, I was using a Nokia charger with a lower rating of only 1.3 A?
There would be no difference in usage or utility of a Samsung and a compatible adapter.
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Yup, using the official charger
agambhandari said:
Are you using the stock note 8.0 charger which has a 2.0 A rating?
Your case also happened to me but then, I was using a Nokia charger with a lower rating of only 1.3 A?
There would be no difference in usage or utility of a Samsung and a compatible adapter.
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Yes, I'm using the official charger. Thanks. So no dice with the simultaneous usage/charging I supposed (and I thought that was one of the advantages of the new 11 pin.)
Anyway, will keep both your comments and suggestions in mind. Just wish the generic screen mirroring on JB 4.2.2 would start being more main stream so we don't have to get stuck with Samsung products using group play and all share cast.I know that chinese tablets are already getting a WIMORX implentation of this and it looks pretty good. I hope this gets baked into a rom. Remodroid hasn't been updated in a while for rootless screen mirroring (on samsung and lg devices). Thanks again to you both.
The generic screen mirroring is actually known as Miracast. AllShare Cast is nothing different from it except the name.
If you have one of the new TV's or any Miracast adapter, the Note 8.0 will also mirror easily to that.
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any generic android mini pc to support generic miracast?
agambhandari said:
The generic screen mirroring is actually known as Miracast. AllShare Cast is nothing different from it except the name.
If you have one of the new TV's or any Miracast adapter, the Note 8.0 will also mirror easily to that.
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Oh so it will work on any miracast adapter?Thanks...I just think that buying a miracast adapter is way to expensive for just mirroring which is why I was thinking of getting an android mini pc stick instead. This way, If i'm not mirroing the note 8, i can still use the stick as a mini pc for the TV. The price of good android mini pc's and the proprietary samsung adapter are just about the same. My problem with the mini pc's is that they're all mostly on ICS4.-- JB 4.1 which don't have working miracast yet. JB 4.2 has it but I'm not sure it will work across all devices.
Do you have any suggestions for cheaper generic miracast adapters (preferably as portable as the samsung one)?
Thanks again.
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Yes, I'm using the official charger. Thanks. So no dice with the simultaneous usage/charging I supposed (and I thought that was one of the advantages of the new 11 pin.)
Anyway, will keep both your comments and suggestions in mind. Just wish the generic screen mirroring on JB 4.2.2 would start being more main stream so we don't have to get stuck with Samsung products using group play and all share cast.I know that chinese tablets are already getting a WIMORX implentation of this and it looks pretty good. I hope this gets baked into a rom. Remodroid hasn't been updated in a while for rootless screen mirroring (on samsung and lg devices). Thanks again to you both.
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I found an app called Screen Standby that turns off the screen while it is actively connected to the HDMI dongle. It means you can mirror everything onto the projector/screen, except the device's screen is off. It can give you a more charging. You need to root for this to work.
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TheNeighbor101 said:
The projectors at my work place only have VGA connection. I finally found a converter for the HDMI connector for the Note 8.
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It cost US$35 and it came with its power adapter and HDMI cable. It has an audio out in the device to connect to a sound system. The analog VGA connection only accommodates graphics, hence the audio jack. This was imported from China sold over in the Philippine market. I was constantly checking for one for the last couple of months to be used for live drawing demonstrations.
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I'm interested - How long did it take to ship and how much shipping fees? Holding up alright after a month?
minix WIMORX compatibile with Samsung's ALLSHARE cast?
agambhandari said:
The generic screen mirroring is actually known as Miracast. AllShare Cast is nothing different from it except the name.
If you have one of the new TV's or any Miracast adapter, the Note 8.0 will also mirror easily to that.
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Hi, just to add to my first reply about generic miracast. I'm thinking of getting the minix neo x5 mini. It has WIMORX installed. I was wondering if anyone in the note 8 forums has actually seen MINIX's WIMORX and SAMSUNG'S allshare cast (basically both proprietary names for MIRACAST) working together. I've alread seen WIMORX working on you tube and it's really fast even with 2d games (haven't seen 3d games yet)...and we already know that ALLSHARE cast is also good...this may help me decide on this product. I know that based on agambhandari's post it should in theory be compatible but just wanted to know if anyone has actually tried it out or seen it working... thanks...again.
Thought I'd update this thread a bit.
TheNeighbor101 said:
I use a non-Samsung micro USB to HDMI adapter too. It's practically the same thing and quality but at half the price. It slows down the power consumption. It's charging but the rate of incoming charge is lower than the discharging of the battery to power the screen and processing. Try charging it through the adapter with screen turned off or without connecting to an HDMI as an experiment to see this.
If that's your case, my advice is you get the Samsung AllShareCast dongle for only ₱3,800 and connect to the VGA adapter. This is a strong recommendation, unless the Android pc has a wifi hotspot capability, you need to rely on the local network to operate with RemoDroid (only works on rooted) and the frame rate is low and laggy for live sketching or markups. Videos can't show on the projected screen.
The AllShareCast dongle is perfect. Practically shows no image delay. I plan to get one myself for a big presentation around August as I'll be presenting an architectural design to a group of people. I'll need to sketch to get my points across.
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Greetings,
It's been a while. i thought I'd share some of my experiences on trying to hook up to VGA and ask a few questions as well while I'm at it. I din't get the allsharecast dongle. Instead, I opted to get the minix neo g4 android mini pc. It's a great product. I figured, the allshare cast dongle is great but it doesn't do much else without a samsung device to mirror its contents. The minix is a full fledged android device running 4.1 (upgradable to 4.2) so even without any samsung or other android device, it can stand on its own. It's RK remote is amazing as well so you can play touch games like dead trigger 2 on it using your android phone as the controller (ala droidmote). For presentations, I realized that kingsoft office is great since you can "share play" powerpoints slides similar to presenter view on a windows PC. To illustrate, you can present the slides on the minix neo g4 (synchronized to the note 8) and still pull out your slide notes on the note 8 (without these showing up on the minix/vga projector set up). With screen mirroring, if you pull out your slide notes than this gets mirrored to the projector screen.
Instead of getting the CDRking HDMI to vga converter with audio noted on this post, i opted to get the MINIX HDMI to VGA converter. It also works like a charm. Connected it to a samsung laptop's HDMI (at the store) and it worked, connected it to an asus TF101 tablet (mini HDMI to REGULAR HDMI than to MINIX HDMI-VGA) and it worked, connected it to the minix neo G4 and obviously...it WORKED (FULL 1080p)...plus it has an audio out (for full speakers) as well that WORKS even without connecting the optional power supply to the converter....now the sad part and also my question....
1)I connected it to the NOTE 8 and tried the S2 as well: MHL to HDMI adapter then to the MINIX HDMI-VGA adapter. The TV connected, the "hdmi connected" appeared on the note 8, the TV autoadjusted it's VGA input signals and then voila...GREEN SCREEN. Am I doing something wrong?
What I've found so far:
a) I read in another forum that some HDMI manufactureres USE some kind of HDMC digital code (sorry don't remember the actual acronym) to limit piracy of digital content.. Unfortunately, this HDMC code isn't supported by VGA so it won't work. Could that be what's going on? My asus is already on a custom rom (using the KATKIS 4.3 multiwindow stable edition rom which is excellent if i might add) and doesn't ende up with this GREEN SCREEN. The asus is also an older model using an even older GPU (Tegra 2) but it screen mirrors to VGA just fine. Is it time to flash a custom note 8 rom? Did you get a similar problem with your HDMI-VGA adapter. If so, how did you overcome it?
b) I've read in another forum that it's faulty cables but I used the same cables for the asus and minix.both worked without a hitch.
2) Next question. How did it go with the presentation using the note 8. You said you'd be using it with the allshare cast dongle. I've noticed that on the big screen (using kingsoft, quickoffice, polaris), all power point slides just aren't as sharp as when viewing them using a regular PC and windows software (even on the minix which already uses full HD 1080p resolution).Plus, there are always black bars along the sides.Can't full strecth the slide the way microsoft powerpoint stretches slides to fill the screen when presenting.
Thanks again.
Anyway
Had the same green screen problem. The problem I believe is that the MHL standard doesn't have enought power to give the hdmi to vga converter.
If possible try an MHL to VGA adapter, or else replace the current HDMI TO VGA with a powered HDMI to VGA .
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Hi,
I am looking for tablet to use in my car - I want it to be a multimedia device used for playing audio /or/+/ video (outputting it to rear-seat monitors as well), being ready for usb stick connection anytime and have dvb-t tuner connected 24/7.
Now after a long search I cannot really find a tablet that's around 7-8 inches, is powerful enough to handle full hd mkv's, and have mini hdmi along with double micro-usb otg, so I can have both usb stick and dvb-t tuner connected, and still have car charger attached to it, so I thought someone here may be able to help.
Anyone?
how about this tablet?
http://www.amazon.com/PPTab%C2%AE-Inch-Android-4-2-Tablet/dp/B00KAJ9444/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1401839610&sr=8-9&keywords=hdmi+tablet
That won't work smoothly with 1080p high-bitrate video for sure
I gotta admit there's [probably] no high-end tablets with separate hdmi out currently on the market, I keep searching and searching and nothing comes up...
ntdm 3000 is a cheap chinese tablet which i use its great for 1080p on bs or mx player,.
idont know if its hdmi though.
Yeah, it doesn't.
The point it it does not need to be cheap - but there's none with hdmi out.
Found some of the tablets by "KURGER & MATZ" to have 2 micro usb ports but... they don't have both gps and bluetooth
freqfreq said:
Yeah, it doesn't.
The point it it does not need to be cheap - but there's none with hdmi out.
Found some of the tablets by "KURGER & MATZ" to have 2 micro usb ports but... they don't have both gps and bluetooth
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Nexus 7 2012 has mhl (HDMI through USB port) and DVT tuner support and has car specific roms . Samsung tablets (8 inch and up) all have capability also . older 7 inchAcer a100 has HDMI and a500 10 inch. Nexus 7 2013 has slimport (newer HDMI through USB) capability. Slim port and mhl plug are only around 10- 30 $ nexus's and Samsung both have USB host and charging at the same time capability (need for DVT support) there is still active development on the old nexus its the one I'd go with. And its pretty easy to solder to the volume and power buttons so u can permently mount in your dash...
HDMI throught usb doesn't do the job for me.
I found only one tablet actually that fills my needs - Chineese PIPO T9.
One thing that sucks, is that it has 4.2.2 and they don't plan on any updates to kitkat.
Aside from that, it has everything needed.
http://www.pipo-store.com/pipo-t9-t...hone-call-tablets-gps-bluetooth-2gb-32gb.html
Separate charging port, mhl-host usb, hdmi, aux, octa-core.
Anyone has better ideas?
In case anyone googling the topic wants to know how I sorted it out in the end:
Bought PIPO M7T tablet (t9 turned out to not have separate hdmi out),
upgraded it with stock rom to 4.4.2.
32 GB MicroSD.
Full HD, even with very high bitrate plays smoothly there.
Has usb otg, hdmi, aux and dc connectors.
Got headphones out connected to aux in my car,
HDMI out heads to hdmi->av converted and goes to car av inputs.
A USB 2.0 4x hub is connected to micro usb, to which I have connected dvb-t tuner, hdmi->av converter power cord and any pendrives I want.
Tablet is constantly connected to external power using DC in.
Works superb, couldn't been better.
hi,
Can 6P output video over USB-C?
Can generic USB C-type cable to HDMI be used?
Any other specific for 6P adapter can be used for HDMI wired output?
No, I don't need / want chromecast or miracast or etc wi-fi streaming.
thanks.
6p does not output hdmi
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heleos said:
6p does not output hdmi
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Why do they sell an hdmi adapter on the Google store then?
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rubi76 said:
Why do they sell an hdmi adapter on the Google store then?
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For the Pixel chromebook.
The 6P supports WiFi Direct, so I would suggest you go that route if at all possible. You may need to get a Miracast dongle for your flat panel display of projector.
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The 6P supports WiFi Direct, so I would suggest you go that route if at all possible. You may need to get a Miracast dongle for your flat panel display of projector.
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I need HDMI for my car Appradio HU
I thought that if 6P has type-C than it will have hdmi over it ... or hope it'll have it
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I need HDMI for my car Appradio HU
I thought that if 6P has type-C than it will have hdmi over it ... or hope it'll have it
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During the reddit AMA they said it would not output hdmi. I also didn't think about this when ordering (i have an appradio hu as well)
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I think because it's still USB 2.0 that it can't output via HDMI. On another note don't waste your time with a miracast dongle. I'm pretty sure Google dropped support for that to exclusively use Chromecast. IMHO I feel it's leaps and bounds better than miracast anyway and you can still mirror your phone
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Smallsmx3 said:
I think because it's still USB 2.0 that it can't output via HDMI. On another note don't waste your time with a miracast dongle. I'm pretty sure Google dropped support for that to exclusively use Chromecast. IMHO I feel it's leaps and bounds better than miracast anyway and you can still mirror your phone
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HDMI works just fine over USB2, it's MHL or SlimPort that extracts video/audio from phone microUSB port. I don't know details how it works, but that I use for my S3 with MHL adapter to feed HDMI input.
The specs say specifically WiFi Direct, which is what Miracast uses as the transport, so Miracast should work. It works well with my Nexus 7, and the Nexus 4, 5 and 10 work as well. The Motorola Nexus 6 did not support WiFi Direct. If Chromecast supports mirroring to the USB port of a flat panel or projector to display the output of the phone or tablet screen for PowerPoint, AutoCAD, etc, then great. At least in the past, that was not the case.
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If Chromecast supports mirroring to the USB port of a flat panel or projector to display the output of the phone or tablet screen for PowerPoint, AutoCAD, etc, then great. At least in the past, that was not the case.
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thats... not how chromecast works. receiving device needs something (chromecast, roku, fire stick) that supports the chromecast protocol (cast method). from there, you can mirror (cast) your device screen or chrome tab.
as far as using a miracast dongle goes, i believe it's the same principle as chromecast. you won't get display through the USB port of your device. the dongle has to connect through some video throughput (usually HDMI). most (if not all) display-only devices do not have the capability to accept display through a USB port.
I don't understand why it doesn't support hdmi output. The s6 doesn't either. I don't want use chromecast because i use my unlimited data plan to stream movies. That's only thing i'm jelly of the iphone right now.
omf05 said:
I don't understand why it doesn't support hdmi output. The s6 doesn't either. I don't want use chromecast because i use my unlimited data plan to stream movies. That's only thing i'm jelly of the iphone right now.
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what does having UDP and steaming movies have to do with CC? are you saying you want to steam movies from your phone to your device? there are apps that do this, including ES File Manager. if you're traveling, you'll need two devices to set up the CC to use your hotspot, but short of that, CC should work great for your needs.
everyone has different use case
for me I need that phone output video over HDMI input of my car radio (Appradio)
and I'd like to have it over cable
in my case streaming over wi-fi comes with annoying latency - that's delay between car touchscreen action and video display as reaction
for me it isn't about movie streaming, but GPS and other car related apps
mikek753 said:
everyone has different use case
for me I need that phone output video over HDMI input of my car radio (Appradio)
and I'd like to have it over cable
in my case streaming over wi-fi comes with annoying latency - that's delay between car touchscreen action and video display as reaction
for me it isn't about movie streaming, but GPS and other car related apps
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This.
I thought I could live without root and ARUnchained so that Android Pay would work easily, and just get by with screen mirroring without touch interface on the head unit. Since Marshmallow, I haven't rooted and I've just been mirroring my N5 through SlimPort. I don't know that I can get by like this after being so used to full interface. And I imagine that the lag on Chromecast would be highly annoying. I'm quite disappointed there is no HDMI output on 6P, but I'm getting it anyway.
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thats... not how chromecast works. receiving device needs something (chromecast, roku, fire stick) that supports the chromecast protocol (cast method). from there, you can mirror (cast) your device screen or chrome tab.
as far as using a miracast dongle goes, i believe it's the same principle as chromecast. you won't get display through the USB port of your device. the dongle has to connect through some video throughput (usually HDMI). most (if not all) display-only devices do not have the capability to accept display through a USB port.
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Oops, you are right. I said USB, but meant HDMI. For my Actiontec dongle, you use the USB port to power it, but the HDMI port for the video / audio.
I'll be honest... I see almost no lag Casting my N5 screen of a 1080p Youtube clip to Chromecast 2.
It actually surprised the hell out of me that the quality of the cast was much better than choosing the same video through the YouTube app for Chromecast
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This.
I thought I could live without root and ARUnchained so that Android Pay would work easily, and just get by with screen mirroring without touch interface on the head unit. Since Marshmallow, I haven't rooted and I've just been mirroring my N5 through SlimPort. I don't know that I can get by like this after being so used to full interface. And I imagine that the lag on Chromecast would be highly annoying. I'm quite disappointed there is no HDMI output on 6P, but I'm getting it anyway.
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Crap! What do we do now? I also use ARUnchained with my AppRadio 3. Just got my 6P today.
mikek753 said:
everyone has different use case
for me I need that phone output video over HDMI input of my car radio (Appradio)
and I'd like to have it over cable
in my case streaming over wi-fi comes with annoying latency - that's delay between car touchscreen action and video display as reaction
for me it isn't about movie streaming, but GPS and other car related apps
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I use the 6P via miracast to my AppRadio and the lag is non existant. The Nexus 5 struggled a bit but the 6P doesn't. This is using a Microsoft Wireless adapter.
Assuming you have supported the ARU developer, then join the Alpha group and he has a version that automates the connection process for Miracast / Chromecast. I have also posted in the ARUR thread how to get the screen to dim down to nothing.
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omf05 said:
I don't understand why it doesn't support hdmi output. The s6 doesn't either. I don't want use chromecast because i use my unlimited data plan to stream movies. That's only thing i'm jelly of the iphone right now.
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Mainly because TV technology has moved on and the technology to stream is in most of those now. Very few phones will support MHL or Slimport going forwards, if any at all within a year.
I would not have bought the Nexus 6P if I'd known that it did not support HDMI out. No doubt about it.
I just tested for Alternate mode over Type-C, to test for audio and video over DisplayPort. BINGO!
What we need
1. Essential PH-1 phone - Android version 7.1.1 - with screen rotation enabled on the phone
i. Tap and hold on the Home Screen
ii. Click - Settings
iii. Enable "Allow Home screen rotation"
i. Settings - Display - When device is rotated - Rotate the contents of the screen
2. USB Type C 3.1 cable capable of 5 amps support (can supply up to 100W power)
see https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/posts/eqJQbujcikq
May or may not work with a Type C 3.1 cable capable of only 3 amps. Don't have a cable to try.
Will not work with a Type C USB 2.0 cable - typical charging cable - not enough wires in the cable
I believe there is total of 6 different USB Type C cables available, the 3 listed below, with either 3 amp or 5 amp features
i. USB 2.0
ii. USB 3.1 Gen 1 - up to 5 Gbps
iii. USB 3.1 Gen 2 - up to 10 Gbps
3. A monitor with a USB Type-C 3.1 input - LG 4K Ultrafine Monitor
Don't have any knowledge, with respect to Thunderbolt 3 input monitors
e.g. LG 5k Ultrafine Monitor
Not all phones have a USB Type C with 3.1, Gen 1 or Gen 2. Most have only USB Type C 2.0 - cheaper components
Enjoy!
Does the Essential support a USB-C --> HDMI connection?
I think that some do, and obviously the iPhones have simple Lightning to HDMI connectors...
SquireSCA said:
Does the Essential support a USB-C --> HDMI connection?
I think that some do, and obviously the iPhones have simple Lightning to HDMI connectors...
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Yes it does. I even tested a USB-C --> VGA cable at work the other day and it worked fine.
Anyone got a link to a USB-C-->HDMI connector that they know works with this phone?
That was a real bummer with the Pixel line, that they don't support HDMI output at all. I am glad that this one does. Now I just need to know which connector to buy from Amazon...
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I just ordered this:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07519HH4H/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I will let you guys know how it works.
This phone just keeps aging better and better, company did things right with the hardware. Very good news
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Ok, that USB-C>HDMI adapter that I listed above from Amazon, works like a champ! Just plug it in and go, your phone's display instantly pops up on the monitor or TV.
SquireSCA said:
Ok, that USB-C>HDMI adapter that I listed above from Amazon, works like a champ! Just plug it in and go, your phone's display instantly pops up on the monitor or TV.
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Thanks; looks ideal for short uses only as you can't charge simultaneously.
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Essential PH-1 with Samsung Dex Station
Hi All,
My Essential PH-1 works perfectly with the Genuine Samsung Dex Station as long as you use the Essential or Samsung Adaptive Charger cable connected to the dock.
The only item I could not get working consistently was the Ethernet connection - but all else worked perfectly.
HDMI out a 4K resolution (2160P)
2 x USB 2.0 ports
Quick Charge while docked ....
Temperatures remained stable at around 45-55 degrees Celsius while driving the external display.
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LEEMCLEOD1969 said:
Hi All,
My Essential PH-1 works perfectly with the Genuine Samsung Dex Station as long as you use the Essential or Samsung Adaptive Charger cable connected to the dock.
The only item I could not get working consistently was the Ethernet connection - but all else worked perfectly.
HDMI out a 4K resolution (2160P)
2 x USB 2.0 ports
Quick Charge while docked ....
Temperatures remained stable at around 45-55 degrees Celsius while driving the external display.
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Now all I need is a reliable Lineage 14.1 OS port with the Auxens OXI desktop embedded for this phone to easily rival my S8 in overall functionality and performance. The Sentio app I am using now is good - but not 100% there yet as it doesn't handle the screen properly due to the camera notch ... and the DPI settings are a bit wonky - but do work.
LEEMCLEOD1969 said:
Hi All,
Now all I need is a reliable Lineage 14.1 OS port with the Auxens OXI desktop embedded
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Auxens OXI looks pretty sweet. Is someone working on a Lineage port w/Auxens OXI or is that just a wish list request?
This will come in handy watching Vanced YouTube without ads
If you're wanting this functionality and are not on Oreo yet, wait to upgrade. Just got this nice detailed response from Samantha @ Essential CS: "While the Essential phone does support this capability, please note that DisplayPort™ is currently only working on devices with Android Nougat, not Android Oreo 8.0. Although the Essential phone is currently running on Android Nougat, we have plans to release Oreo 8.0 within the next several weeks. This is an developer issue across all devices, so unfortunately we can't control when a software fix will be implemented."
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If you're wanting this functionality and are not on Oreo yet, wait to upgrade. Just got this nice detailed response from Samantha @ Essential CS: "While the Essential phone does support this capability, please note that DisplayPort™ is currently only working on devices with Android Nougat, not Android Oreo 8.0. Although the Essential phone is currently running on Android Nougat, we have plans to release Oreo 8.0 within the next several weeks. This is an developer issue across all devices, so unfortunately we can't control when a software fix will be implemented."
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Yeah I bought the Belinda USB c HDMI adapter as linked to from Amazon and it works for like 2 minutes but then randomly cuts off totally. I'm unfortunately on Oreo b3.
Anyone who was using this before on nougat, test this on Pie? Not sure if this was covered or not.
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Anyone who was using this before on nougat, test this on Pie? Not sure if this was covered or not.
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I use a Samsung adapter regularly at work to stream TV on my lunch break to a TV. Used it on Nougat and on Pie
i tried type c to hdmi cable Model : OT-9572 that works fine with my galaxy s8 but doesnt work with my essensial with pie..... is there any option in the menu ? or pie doesnt support hdmi out?????
mikemilos said:
i tried type c to hdmi cable Model : OT-9572 that works fine with my galaxy s8 but doesnt work with my essensial with pie..... is there any option in the menu ? or pie doesnt support hdmi out?????
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Pie does support it. If you have access to another adapter, I'd test it on the Essential. My PH-1 had faulty hardware preventing HDMI output last spring. I had to get it replaced to get it to work.