Hugely disappointed in the absence of an iPad-like USB plug allowing cameras, drives, etc. to be accessed via the usb port, I thought for a moment and realized something. I know an alright amount when it comes to hardware vs. software questions and know that USB otg is not necessarily a hardware issue...the Motorola Xoom was released with Honeycomb and it supports USB Host. Now that very early versions of Honeycomb have been ported to the Galaxy Tab, theoretically shouldn't that mean it now supports USB Host mode (or at least in the near future)? Any thoughts and comments would be greatly appreciated as I'm aware that there are many others waiting for this awesome capability for their tab!!
With past versions of android already fully supporting USB host, I don't see why they don't other than they want you to buy the version with the largest storage space... Android should in theory already have the support as it is an update to the existing android not a new os completely... I feel mostly its just a dirty marketing scheme... (Note: My Archos 101 has a full sized USB port on it with full functionality...)
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i love the drag and drop feature but im worried. pricing and specs are awesome and of course not having a usb port isnt a deal break but still
I am, I really hope they release an accessory so I don't have to buy the keyboard. Technically speaking it would be super cheap to make.
Actually I am since my G Tablet has the ability to power my 500gb USB HD that has all my movies on it which works wonderfully since their last update.
I'm not saying this to bash the Asus, just that this is a very useful feature that I would want to have available without the extra dock.
Do you mean specifically from a usb flash drive? You should be able to connect to a pc through its usb drive through the transformers proprietary port and drag and drop that way can you not?
Technically it could be done if someone took up the challenge
Similar to the xoom usb host modification
http://www.slatedroid.com/topic/15979-hack-enable-usb-host-mode-ie-thumb-drives-on-the-xoom/
It may actually be easier, since the transformer already supports USB through the 40 Pin connector via the laptop dock
Its just a matter of trying to figure out the proprietary connector Asus put on the transformer
I really wish they would have at least included a micro USB port
Not a bit. The price point on the tablet alone is already great for what it has now. From a business standpoint they needed something extra to justify the dock price since it is there ostensibly to add more functionality than a normal tab has.
i am sure someone will hack up a cable very soon, since it's clearly stated that the port has both USB host and client capabilities.
Charging stand
There is going to be a charging stand according to Asus for 69.99 that includes 2 USB ports.
campuslife.asus.com/index/1947/official-eee-pad-transformer-unboxing-video/ (see the comments section)
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There is going to be a charging stand according to Asus for 69.99 that includes 2 USB ports.
campuslife.asus.com/index/1947/official-eee-pad-transformer-unboxing-video/ (see the comments section)
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So basically you could turn it into a honeycomb desktop? (stand + keyboard and mouse, or stand + keyboard, mouse and screen through HDMI).
This would be a decent desktop setup for kids I guess.
I posted something on on Asus' Campus Life. Please hit reply to it and respond requesting this accessory! Look for username Dean.
http://campuslife.asus.com/index/194...ideo/#comments
markthompson23 said:
There is going to be a charging stand according to Asus for 69.99 that includes 2 USB ports.
campuslife.asus.com/index/1947/official-eee-pad-transformer-unboxing-video/ (see the comments section)
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Interesting... If true (and it's written in a very straightforward way, even includes MSRP) then Asus are really planning quite an ecosystem for this tablet. That implies good support in terms of updates etc. as well, to try and get the ball rolling... Nice find!
Somewhere I read that with ics every device will have this feature.
Will also the Nexus S be upgraded?Does the actual porting support this feature?
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I don't think the hardware of the present smartphones provide power out for the micro-usb slot. Hence we cannot have USB OTG functionality. Personally would love if someone corrected me........ even many Nokia yester year phones have OTG.
For a project me and two fellow students are supposed to do for college I'm looking for a cheap Android phone that supports USB Host mode.
According to the official Android developers guide here: http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/connectivity/usb/host.html from the software side only Android 3.1 or above is required for host mode support but from what I read so far both in this forum and on sites I found trough Google it seems that not nearly every phone running Android 3.1+ actually supports USB host mode.
I read that apparently the Galaxy S2 & S3 do support it (although I also came across a thread that said that for the S2 it doesn't work with certain newer ROM versions) but since this is for a college project (and so our college will probably pay for the phone that we're going to use for our project) we were looking for sthg much cheaper than an S2 & S3.
I guess the "optimum" price range (that I guess our college would pay no problem) would be between 100 $ - 200 $.
It would be nice if the device would support it out of the box but if a phone only supports USB host using a custom ROM it would be fine too as long as both the ROM itself & the USB host functionality are stable and as long as the official Android USB host API is supported.
One phone that would deff be in our optimal price range is the HTC Desire (non-HD) but I read mixed statements about whether it supports USB host mode or not.
If there are no phones supporting USB host in that price range another option would be to flash an Android ROM to my HTC HD2 and to use that for our project then (sine I already orderer a Lumia 920 and as soon as that arrives I won't need the HD2 as my primary phone anymore)
Unfortunately the only thing I found regarding the HTC HD2 and USB host was based on Windows Mobile 6.5 and not Android.
Another thing I couldn't find a real answer to is the maximum current one can draw from a USB host mode capable Android device. I read 100 mA on one site but that information was specific to one particular phone I guess. I'm wondering if this 100 mA limit is valid for all USB host capable Android devices or if that limit depends on the device's hardware (which would make a lot of sense I guess).
If it depends on the device what is the highest current that can be drawn from (some) phones?
I also came across this tool (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1493325 that can check if a given Android phone & ROM does support USB host but since I don't have a phone yet but rather have to decide which one to get it doesn't really help me either.
Any help on this topic would be highly appreciated by me and my two fellow students who are working with me on that project.
Thanks a lot for reading
Regards,
karlmueller
Today I bought a Sony Xperia tipo (because several websites claim that it supports USB OTG / USB Host) but after doing a test using "USB Host Diagnostics" I had to find out that apparently it doesn't support it.
When I connect an USB thumb drive directly to the phone using a USB OTG cable the LED indicator on the thumb drive doesn't even light up so the phone doesn't seem to provide any power to the drive. I then tried to put a powered USB hub in between the phone and the thumb drive but the phone still doesn't detect the thumb drive and the "USB Host Diagnostics" tool still says that only the classes are found but that no devices were detected.
Fortunately the retailer I bought the phone from assured me that I can return it if the USB OTG feature doesn't work.
Or do you have any idea how I could get this phone to support USB OTG?
thx
karlmueller
I have a new Chuwi V10HD 3G dual OS Windows 8.1 and Android KitKat 4.4. This only has a micro USB 2.0 port - no other I/O ports.
I want to be able to use the capability of the USB OTG 2.O spec - if I understand it correctly - to be able to attach and utilize an external USB 2.0 device (for example, hard drive, flash drive, keyboard, mouse, USB to Ethernet adapter, external display, etc.) while simultaneously charging the Chuwi tablet.
Chuwi says the port is a USB OTG 2.0 spec.
Hours of internet searching gives mixed impressions of whether this can be done.
More hours reading posts here on xda-developers also yields conflicting views and experiences. Some members describe how they've had success by using various Y adaptors or multi-port devices - or even hard wiring their own cables. Others say they've tried that approach with no love. Still others say the OTG spec doesn't allow for that and that it's physically impossible to do both at once.
Then there's the Pluggable Pro 8 docking station which, for a hefty price, says it will charge while connecting external devices.
What is the current state of the offerings now? Does any product really offer a solution now? Is it even possible?
To a layman like me, it doesn't seem like this should be so hard and shrouded in such mystery. <sigh>
Hi there,
You'd be best served asking for help from the experts who own your device, here:
Chuwi vi10 10.6" z3736F dual boot windows 8.1 + android 4.4
Good luck
Hello,
before I begin explaining my issue, I would like to apologie for my bad english.
I sometimes like to use my phone like notebook: connect mouse and keyboard to it. Z3 have OTG capability, so it(s fine. But one thing is not: ethernet adapters after updating to 6.0.1 using this doesn't seems to work.
First of all: i've thought, that you either have OTG or not. Not just for some devices. That it works like regular USB. It seems not. I have USB 3.0 powered hub conected to OTG cable and to the hub I've connected keyboard and mouse and tried to cennect already 5 different USB 3.0 gigabit ethernet adapters. They didn't work. On Android 5.1.1 worked my (all in one) USB OTG ethernet hub (3 USB 2.0, ethernet connector, micro USB wit OTG), but it was not powered, so I decided to upgrade.
Why? Simple. Power. I do this because for few day in near future I will be without my notebook (dedicated GPU is broken, i will have new one). I've been like this already for 3 days. And if i've been using my phone with keyboard and mouse (only use, which is comfortable for long time), I've noticed that is not possible to run this on battery. So my idea was to take as much as i can from the phone: controls and internet connection, and power that externally. And in addition buy the docking station and use the dock charging port. I've did all of this. And it works like magic: phone is powered from charger. All the time you might ask, why the hell I just don't use built in WiFi. Energy. That is the reason. WiFi just eat too much: if I pull up brightness of display and actually DO something on that phone, even wit plugged in docking charger, it just drain power faster, than charger charging (measured). For some reason the dock charging give about 0,45 A, not full 1,5 or something like that. Keyboard and mouse eats about 0,3 A, with some ethernet adapter it would be about 0,5 A. SO…a lot of power.
Android is based on Linux, so I have question (and I pretty much know the answer): is there ANY way how to install drivers for ethernet adapter on Z3? I obviously have root, I know about some terminal apps. But if I google this, it gives me only how to install drivers for phone on PC. That is not very helpful. I thing that this is most likelly impossible.
So I've searched something like list of supported devices. No suprise there: no relevant results. Sony Z3 AND Android 6.0.1 AND OTG device list, is probably too specific question.
Another idea what I had is try to use USB 2.0 adapters. You see, I wanted USB 3.0 (even though Z3 have only 2.0 (I still don't get it. Why the hell?)), because they have 1 Gb networks and I could use this adapter sometimes later for different device, like super thin notebook (if I ever would need some light device for travels). Another thing is the fact that 100 Mb is slow for large file transfer (movies and so on, so I have some entertainment, when I will not have my ntb). USB 2.0 can handle up to 480 Mb (in real life more like 300 Mb tops), which is still more than that network. But at this point I just gived up on this, and I will be happy if any ethernet adapter will work.
SO…do you know about any custom ROM, which would handle that? OTG USB ethernet support. Because not even that thing, which worked under 5.1.1 doesn't work under 6.0.1.
Sorry for long post, I needed to give you lot of informations, and why's.
Update
Update 0: OTG USB ethernet adapters doesn't work only on 6.0.1 or on this based ROM's. USB 3.0 doesn't work at all, but USB 2.0 works just fine on 5.1.1.
So…5.1.1 is most likelly the version, which I will be using. 6.0.1 has certain advantages, sure, but to me it seems like completely stupid to remove support for OTG USB ethernet adapters. More devices should be supported in nwer version, not less. And the inablity to remove bloatware even with root… No, this is just wrong. SO I buy my phone, but I have to have some apps, which I don't want and don't use? Ehm…no?
Update 1: I've decided doing it little bit differently. I've installed this ROM. I like how debloated it is, and many other things. USB ethernet adapter doesn't work (obviously), OS doesn't even know that something like ethernet exist. So I decided to try build my own drivers (by compiling source code) or app, or something. Any help is welcome.
Update 2: I currently have this thing. It's just USB 2.0 and 100 Mb/s, but…whatever. Tested on 5.1.1, transfers was 3× faster than on Wi-Fi and batery-enery-usage free (this is why I do this). Now, as stated before, I am on 6.0.1. That ethernet adapter has source code drivers available here. But here is the thing: they keep saing that
the support of this function must be included by the manufacturer directly in the particular Android device
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(source) and the source code page saying that it is supported up to Android 5. So…what has changed in Android 6? Why the support is gone? And what will happend if I will try do something in Android studio?
Hello do you have z3 or z3+? I used to Havre z3 and with Lollipop ethernet became broke after 5.1.x I think so I had to reroll kitkat..I gave it away and now I am thinking to buy one z3+ but was fearing Ethernet won't work because it comes delivered with lollipop but now your post gives hope that it is still available. Other phones also have Ethernet capabilities but I found Sony best ... only the loudspeakers are not clear enough for me ... here you find a list with models that support Ethernet
http://plugable.com/products/usb2-otge100/
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Hello do you have z3 or z3+? I used to Havre z3 and with Lollipop ethernet became broke after 5.1.x I think so I had to reroll kitkat..I gave it away and now I am thinking to buy one z3+ but was fearing Ethernet won't work because it comes delivered with lollipop but now your post gives hope that it is still available. Other phones also have Ethernet capabilities but I found Sony best ... only the loudspeakers are not clear enough for me ... here you find a list with models that support Ethernet
http://plugable.com/products/usb2-otge100/
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Hello, I have also tested ethernet adapter and it does not work with 6.01 on xperia z1, huawei p9 lite, lenovo yoga 3 tablet.
In xperia z1 with 5.1.1 it works correctly. Something has happened with 6.01 but anyway not all phones or tablets with 5.1.1 work because lenovo yoga 3 with 5.1.1 does not recognize the ethenet adapter.
I think the manufacturer is responsible for not working when it does not integrate the necessary drivers and does not support ethernet. It is the conclusion I came to verify that not all 5.1.1 recognize ethernet adapter and in 6.01 I read that some if you comment that the adapter works (especially in nexus and motorola).
What would be interesting is what comrade BiPentHexium says to be able to include in our room the ethernet support being root.
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On the list of models that support the ethernet adapter, it only refers to the Plugable brand adapter and is based on the reports of its customers. But in that list does not appear the xperia z1 and I can confirm that it works correctly with ethernet adapter (I do not have the plugable)