[Q] anyone concerned with the lack of USB port - Eee Pad Transformer Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

i love the drag and drop feature but im worried. pricing and specs are awesome and of course not having a usb port isnt a deal break but still

I am, I really hope they release an accessory so I don't have to buy the keyboard. Technically speaking it would be super cheap to make.

Actually I am since my G Tablet has the ability to power my 500gb USB HD that has all my movies on it which works wonderfully since their last update.
I'm not saying this to bash the Asus, just that this is a very useful feature that I would want to have available without the extra dock.

Do you mean specifically from a usb flash drive? You should be able to connect to a pc through its usb drive through the transformers proprietary port and drag and drop that way can you not?

Technically it could be done if someone took up the challenge
Similar to the xoom usb host modification
http://www.slatedroid.com/topic/15979-hack-enable-usb-host-mode-ie-thumb-drives-on-the-xoom/
It may actually be easier, since the transformer already supports USB through the 40 Pin connector via the laptop dock
Its just a matter of trying to figure out the proprietary connector Asus put on the transformer
I really wish they would have at least included a micro USB port

Not a bit. The price point on the tablet alone is already great for what it has now. From a business standpoint they needed something extra to justify the dock price since it is there ostensibly to add more functionality than a normal tab has.

i am sure someone will hack up a cable very soon, since it's clearly stated that the port has both USB host and client capabilities.

Charging stand
There is going to be a charging stand according to Asus for 69.99 that includes 2 USB ports.
campuslife.asus.com/index/1947/official-eee-pad-transformer-unboxing-video/ (see the comments section)

markthompson23 said:
There is going to be a charging stand according to Asus for 69.99 that includes 2 USB ports.
campuslife.asus.com/index/1947/official-eee-pad-transformer-unboxing-video/ (see the comments section)
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So basically you could turn it into a honeycomb desktop? (stand + keyboard and mouse, or stand + keyboard, mouse and screen through HDMI).
This would be a decent desktop setup for kids I guess.

I posted something on on Asus' Campus Life. Please hit reply to it and respond requesting this accessory! Look for username Dean.
http://campuslife.asus.com/index/194...ideo/#comments

markthompson23 said:
There is going to be a charging stand according to Asus for 69.99 that includes 2 USB ports.
campuslife.asus.com/index/1947/official-eee-pad-transformer-unboxing-video/ (see the comments section)
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Interesting... If true (and it's written in a very straightforward way, even includes MSRP) then Asus are really planning quite an ecosystem for this tablet. That implies good support in terms of updates etc. as well, to try and get the ball rolling... Nice find!

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[Q] dock usb port

I have the dock as well as a usb A male to male cable. Any way to leave the usb cable connected from the dock to my pc to transfer files?
I can leave a jump drive plugged into the dock and access it with ifileManager, but I'd like it to function similar to using the included cable. It would be so easy to swap a file real quick while it's on the dock charging compared to connecting another cable or removing the microsd.
Where did you get the dock? I Googled for it and didn't find anything being sold for the Viewsonic G Tablet.
MSU_Sparty said:
Where did you get the dock? I Googled for it and didn't find anything being sold for the Viewsonic G Tablet.
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Maybe use the search feature on the gtablet forums
It's the malata dock sold at merimobiles and alibaba, among other places, check the accessory forum and you'll see a few posts regarding where to get it and reviews of it.
It seems the full size usb and the mini usb function very differently fom one another.
My computer knowledge is limited mostly to hardware and windows, so I'm not even sure where to begin aside from physically connecting everything lol
Thanks, dirt4618, your response is very helpful. I tried the AliBaba site but they are unable to take credit card payments for some reason. I also felt a little uncomfortable about the security of their site and my financial transaction if I bought from them. The Merimobiles site has the Dock at a little higher price but does business with US customers via Canada so I feel a little better about dealing with them.
I can answer the question in regards to the USB on the dock, When I did the review I simply used a thumb drive and a keyboard / mouse to test it. I'm not sure about the 'power' that those extenders use?
As for docks, many have been getting them online. I had a chunk of 20 but they went in 36 hours. I may have a few more coming in but I tend to keep it quiet until I have anything in my hand.

Asus Transformer Pad TF300-T

Since our house already has a main PC for the family to use, and my laptop is around two years old, I was thinking about getting a new device. I mainly want to watch HD YouTube videos, browse the web, play music and complete some homework. I looked at the Asus Transformer range because of the keyboard dock and want some opinions on it. Here is a link to the model I am speaking of on PC World...
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/asus-transformer-pad-tf300-t-tablet-pc-with-docking-station-13657744-pdt.html
First off, what is the build quality of this tablet like? Whilst I won't be throwing it about, I don't want something that feels like it is going to break at the slightest knock.
Since I want to do some homework on this tablet, what is the keyboard like? Is it comfortable to type with and, as with the tablet itself, is it of a sufficient build quality?
How long is the charging wire which it comes with, as I want to be able to use it from my chair whilst charging? Also, what is the battery life like? If I were to take this on a road trip, would it last a few hours for me to watch a movie?
Will this particular Transformer be getting an upgrade to the latest Android 4.1 Jelly Bean OS? If so, any news on when?
Finally, what is the general performance of the device like? Will I be able to smoothly flick between a browser and office suite when doing homework? How will games such as Dead Trigger run also?
EDIT 1: I forgot to ask whether or not you could plug in a USB Xbox 360 controller, USB hard-drive or USB mouse into the keyboard dock's USB port?
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I forgot to ask whether or not you could plug in a USB Xbox 360 controller, USB hard-drive or USB mouse into the keyboard dock's USB port?
Anyone here tested out this tablet, or own one personally, and know whether it can satisfy me as a replacement for a laptop?
Nobody here tried this Asus Transformer or the Prime/Infinity ones?
Brad387 said:
Nobody here tried this Asus Transformer or the Prime/Infinity ones?
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Calm down, And there is no need to create 2 topics for the same thing. Wait a little...

TF700 without keyboard and USB device

Hi all,
Looking To Buy Asus Transformer Infinity TF700 without keyboard, i have few questions.
How can i connect usb disk (or usb memory key) on TF700 ?
Using "usb female to usb female adaptor" can work for connecting usb drive on Usb dock cable of TF700 (without dock) ?
Thanks.
There's this asus thing on amazon for some money that converts the bottom proprietary port into a USB port. From there you could (possibly) attach a USB hub or whatever for your needs.
I got b& at /g/ for sh!tposting ;_;
jdeoxys said:
There's this asus thing on amazon for some money that converts the bottom proprietary port into a USB port. From there you could (possibly) attach a USB hub or whatever for your needs.
I got b& at /g/ for sh!tposting ;_;
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that's right, it's called an usb kit but i'm not sure if it works for the tf700 since it says "ASUS USB Kit for Eee Pad Transformer TF101, TF101G, TF201 & TF300 Tablets"
You can get the USB adapter for like $30 (works on the 700), or you can go to best buy and get the tf201 dock (that works perfectly on the 700) for $99. IMHO, the dock is the way to go...
Currently, I have both the TF201 dock (best buy $99) and an Asus USB kit (amazon $17) and am glad to have both. The USB kit works but seems to easily come loose, which is horrible for hard drives.
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You could also buy a micro sd card and plug that into a cheap $3 usb adapter. eg: http://www.dealextreme.com/c/card-readers-300
Thats how I've been loading up my micro sd cards with ebooks and movies.
I asked earlier on the forum about pluging in my usb external 2tb drive to the tablet 40 pin via a usb adapter but was told that might be a no go due to lack of android drivers. Has anyone attempted it? I'd be curious to see if it could somehow work.
Syn010 said:
You could also buy a micro sd card and plug that into a cheap $3 usb adapter. eg: http://www.dealextreme.com/c/card-readers-300
Thats how I've been loading up my micro sd cards with ebooks and movies.
I asked earlier on the forum about pluging in my usb external 2tb drive to the tablet 40 pin via a usb adapter but was told that might be a no go due to lack of android drivers. Has anyone attempted it? I'd be curious to see if it could somehow work.
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I just plugged a Seagate 2TB external hard drive into the USB adapter and it came up and is working. Movies play, music plays, pictures, etc.
According to you will it be possibile in a future (maybe with an hack) to connect in this female usb port an usb stick modem with sim card?
Go with the dock.
PAPB0007 said:
I just plugged a Seagate 2TB external hard drive into the USB adapter and it came up and is working. Movies play, music plays, pictures, etc.
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Wicked! :good: Wait do you mean via tablet 40pin usb or do you mean usb via the dock.
Asus drives me nutz with this idiot connector deal.
It's horsepoop if you ask me.
Even them Samsing tabs with their weird plugins have connector options available locally.
Asus = nope...uh-uh...sorry...no deal my man...your stuck buying our big ole' huge massive goofy interface clunker unit thingy!
I find this irritating.
Syn010 said:
Wicked! :good: Wait do you mean via tablet 40pin usb or do you mean usb via the dock.
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A little more testing and perhaps better wording:
The 2TB hard drive worked via the tablet's 40 pin input (the one on the bottom that you usually charge from) using the USB adapter.
The 2TB hard drive worked via the dock's USB input.
Nothing worked when I plugged the USB adapter into the dock's 40pin input.
I hope this helps. I have other external hard drives I can test. 500GB - 2TB, Western Digital, Seagate, Toshiba, a few are USB 3.0, most are USB 2.0.
FWIW, like others, I would highly recommend the dock, especially @ $99. I didn't think I needed it, felt it defeated the idea of a tablet, and had the TF Prime for months without it, but when it went up for $99 @ BB I pulled the trigger on it and I have been pretty amazed at how much I like having available. I use it all the time. It adds a lot of value to the TFs. The fact that I could upgrade to the TF700 and keep it was awesome, I'm not sure I would want a tablet that didn't have something similar going forward.
I got the Infinity without the keyboard as well. I actually already had a portable blue tooth keyboard, which is the Freedom Pro Keyboard. You can pick up on the net from $50 to $100. Amazon link
It's not going to have all the integration of the dock or anything. But I can use it on multiple devices since it has both the HID and SSP blue tooth protocols. I've used it both on my Evo 4G and the Infinity and works like a champ. It does use two AAA batteries. But in the months I've had it, I've only changed them once, and I think I left it on for about three or four days before I discovered it one time.
The thing the dock has that you may want, more battery life, USB ports, and SD card slot. In theory, would could type with it in bed or something too, although I've heard you'll want a flatter surface. It's a pretty nice looking dock and all. But I just didn't see what big benefit it would give me compared to what I had, other than battery life.
I did write on the Freedom Pro Keyboard from when I got it (Link to another forum). It gives my opinion and observations.
I tried to connect a Logitech K400 wirelesse keyboard with no success. I bought a female-female usb adapter and plugged it at my ASUS usb docking cable. The RF receiver isn't recognized and the keyboard can't be used.
WTF ASUS is forcing to use expensive accessory, e.g. dock by 150 € or usb adpter by 30€? Today I'll try the K400 at my sister-in-law's Acer A700 tablet. If it works she can have the keyboard.
Does anyone try another 3rd USB adapter acccessory with things like webcam or keyboard?
I have a little HP bluetooth keyboard that pairs to tf700t pretty well .... it messes up sometimes.
Sort of saved me from buying the dock.
Wish I had a bluetooth mouse tho...
I agree about the Asus pain in the ass 40 pin connector.
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thunderger said:
I tried to connect a Logitech K400 wirelesse keyboard with no success. I bought a female-female usb adapter and plugged it at my ASUS usb docking cable. The RF receiver isn't recognized and the keyboard can't be used....
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I'm not that surprise this isn't working. One, the keyboard is not blue tooth, which you know. Two, you need drivers to work the unifying usb receiver. I would be surprised if Android had the drivers. Didn't you notice when you plugged into your PC, WIndows or OSX downloaded drivers to install?
To your point, no you don't have buy the ASUS keyboard dock for $150EU/US. If don't mind it not matching, from what has been explored in other threads, the Transformer Prime (TF200) dock is the same, and can be found for around $100EU/US. But since you're you were trying to use something else, there are a plenty of other blue tooth keyboards that can be used. You're looking for one with the HID protocol. Although, you can probably use the SPP, but you'll probably need to make sure you get the drivers somewhere.
I suspect you're looking for that wireless to be able to use with it. I only briefly explored it for use with my phone. You'll have to search and research. There may be something. Personally, it wasn't a must have. Since I'm right next to the tablet, I can just touch the screen just as easily. Other than a few games on OnLive, I can think of what it can do better than my finger on the tablet. Plus, I think the cost will be the same after both the keyboard and mouse/touch pad.
I guess the question for you, not so much is ASUS keyboard dock is pricey, but can you do what you plan with something else. And is the cost of whatever you get, worth the benefit derived.

Genuine ASUS Connect Dock

I just took delivery of the new ASUS Connect Dock, purchased from Amazon.de for €75.15.
I also own the keyboard dock but find the latching system a bit awkward for everyday use as a desktop top docking/charging system. I'd been looking for something like this for a while. It had already been discussed in another thread and on a chance I placed the order. At the time it said that delivery would be in 4-6 weeks. I was quite surprised when I got a message to say that the item I had always thought of as "vapour-ware", was set for delivery on the 17th of October. Well, it's the 16th today and I'm happy to say it's here.
As you can see from the pictures below it's quite small but fits the tablet perfectly without any real drag on the plug being felt either when docking or undocking.
When I first docked I had the LAN cable and power cables plugged in and the TF700 immediately recognised the dock, connectd to the LAN via DHCP and proceeded to charge. I found that the notification bar now had a few new icons, one of which was for the LAN. Tapping this icon brought up a settings page which gave me the option to use a DHCP or Static IP connection. Once I had configured a static IP I had a button which said CONNECT appear, which when touched connected with the new parameters. All was well. :good:
I next tried to connect one of the two USB ports to my PC to see if it would be recognised but obviously they are OTG and cannot be used for a data connection for transfer of files from the PC - no fastboot or ADB. Connecting a USB memory key needed the use of the mount option under Settings-Storage before it would connect. The same was true for when I tried my 1Tb HardDisk. Once mounted both worked as expected. I imagine that connecting a mouse and keyboard would be a no brainer. I can't verify this or that a wireless setup would work.
It is rather expensive for what it is and has a few shortcomings - no HDMI port, no USB data pass-through - but it does do its intended job well. There is a supposed amplified audio-out port but I have not tried this yet. I have no idea whether it is connected internally via USB or directly to the headphone socket. Maybe someone in the future may open one up and check out the internals so we can know more.
Typically I like accessories and this adds to the kit nicely.
Cheers,
Eric
EDIT: I tried the USB HardDisk again and this time it was recognised immediately and opened Filemanager. I was able to watch a movie directly from the drive which I guess means that the USB ports are also powered. I'm even happier now!
very nice, if only it had hdmi
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eckka said:
When I first docked I had the LAN cable and power cables plugged in and the TF700 immediately recognised the dock, connectd to the LAN via DHCP and proceeded to charge. I found that the notification bar now had a few new icons, one of which was for the LAN. Tapping this icon brought up a settings page which gave me the option to use a DHCP or Static IP connection. Once I had configured a static IP I had a button which said CONNECT appear, which when touched connected with the new parameters. All was well. :good:
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If you use a USB Ethernet adapter, you'll see the exact same notifications. Just FYI.
Midnitte said:
very nice, if only it had hdmi
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Indeed, that is what I am really waiting for - that would earn the name "Connect dock" for sure
i can't see your pictures - and very much would like to! i'm seeing a section for thumbnails on your post, but no actual thumbnails in it
UPDATE: reloaded the page a bunch of times and the pics showed up - thanks for sharing! it's WAY smaller than i thought it would be. smells like a perfect thing to use on your bed table to turn your 700 into a clock replacement overnight (gotta keep these geek tech assets working 24x7!!!!!). seems pricey for what you get, but i think i'll grab one when they hit the states.
doody.
Damn,
I really want this if it does connect reliably thru USB to any PC.
Thats OK said:
Damn,
I really want this if it does connect reliably thru USB to any PC.
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I'm guessing that you want to know if it can connect to a PC via the USB ports provided!
The short answer is NO!
It's one of the first things I tried. :crying:
eckka said:
I'm guessing that you want to know if it can connect to a PC via the USB ports provided!
The short answer is NO!
It's one of the first things I tried. :crying:
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Dang it...I'm sad now...
...well not too sad
Thanks for the information. Do you know if the dock works when powered by a cigarette lighter in the car?
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Thanks for the information. Do you know if the dock works when powered by a cigarette lighter in the car?
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I haven't tried it but I'd say it would since the power input is the standard 40pin plug and that's what's on the car charger as well.
I know for certain that the tablet charges on 12V because I modified a cable from a car charger - the circuit inside contained a 12V regulator - onto a Kensington netbook charger. The only critical bit is the need to be able to provide at least 1.5A, preferably 2.0A.
I don't have the means to test it so you'll just have to believe me or wait until someone else can.
Gotcha, thanks for the reply. I wonder if the USB ports work with a hub, that could be interesting.
If only I could find a US vendor then I could try these ideas out myself.
it'll work but it wont say its charging and will take forever to gain any charge
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Asus drives me nuts!
http://www.asus.com/Peripherals_Accessories/Eee_Pad_Accessories/Connect_Dock/#overview
Above is the link for the dock, yet these Asus people offer no info on how to actually obtain the frigging thing.
There's got to be a factory somewhere in Taipei that's stamping these things out by the pallet loads every hour.
I hate this "dangle a neat-o accessory over a pond full of hungry fish" attitude then let 'em starve!
Damn them!
Network
I have a USB Ethernet. Assuming dock Ethernet works the same......
The tablet connects to the LAN on which the Ethernet exists
Using a file explorer (I use ES File Explorer) I can log onto the LAN via the Ethernet (also works via WiFi).
So long as the required shares are set up back at the PC, there is no problem accessing, copying, deleting etc.
I have even played movies which exist on my media server on The LAN, via WiFi, and watched them on the tablet. Not totally smooth but easily watchable as I fall asleep in bed!
Simples!
Regards to all
Ian Wilson
And, forgot to mention.... I have a USB HD which connects fine through the USB on the keyboard dock - power and data - no problem.
printer
It would be great if yo could hook up a printer to the dock
hillyard said:
It would be great if yo could hook up a printer to the dock
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You can use Google Cloud Print to print wirelessly from the Tablet. If your printer supports Cloud Print directly (not that many do) you can set this up very easily, and no PC connection is required - only an internet connection for the printer. If your printer doesn't support it directly, you can still set it up and print to it, but it requires your PC to be on and connected (cable or WiFi) to the printer.
This is actually a pretty slick option - works from my Samsung Galaxy Nexus and probably most other Android phones.
If anyone has any info on a US release date, I would appreciate it. Calling ASUS did not help because they weren't even aware of this dock. They kept insisting I was referring to the keyboard dock.
Maybe Asus will bring the Connect Dock to the US for the holidays. I would really prefer one of these next to my bed than the tab in its keyboard dock!
Come On Asus!!!
Midnitte said:
very nice, if only it had hdmi
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rivetM4n said:
Indeed, that is what I am really waiting for - that would earn the name "Connect dock" for sure
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Does the TF700 have the ability to route HDMI through the dock connector? I mean is the wiring in place, I ask because it would seem that they would have forgone a dedicated port if so and used a modified MHL connection?
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Does the TF700 have the ability to route HDMI through the dock connector? I mean is the wiring in place, I ask because it would seem that they would have forgone a dedicated port if so and used a modified MHL connection?
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Having looked at the threads which discuss the pinout configuration for the 40pin connector I can say that it doesn't like there are any connections to HDMI available. There is no passthrough for HDMI on this dock and since it doesn't look like the connector has the pins that it would be pretty sure that it's not possible.

MHL OTG

Does anyone have an idea whether its possible to use MHL + OTG with charging on the Skyrocket? Whether it be stock or an aftermarket rom/kernel doesn't matter. I can't seem to find a definitive answer on this phone, but I'm leaning toward not possible.
This is what I planned on ordering. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009LAZG2M/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I would assume since the MHL adapter puts the device in charge mode, it wouldn't read the attached usb device (if using a hub or y adapter) since it is not in Host mode. Any have any experiance with this or have any links they can provide. It would be much appreciated!
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Does anyone have an idea whether its possible to use MHL + OTG with charging on the Skyrocket? Whether it be stock or an aftermarket rom/kernel doesn't matter. I can't seem to find a definitive answer on this phone, but I'm leaning toward not possible.
This is what I planned on ordering. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009LAZG2M/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I would assume since the MHL adapter puts the device in charge mode, it wouldn't read the attached usb device (if using a hub or y adapter) since it is not in Host mode. Any have any experiance with this or have any links they can provide. It would be much appreciated!
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I have the same cable and mhl works as long add the rom supports it. As for your question I found this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1741583&page=21 and on the last page there is a link for someone who got it to work on as3 however our phones have different pin configuration but you should be able to do the same thing as him
OTG while using MHL sounds like a great way to fry something important on your phone. it's clear the note 2 had something like this in mind with the smart dock. it looks like the smart dock works with the S3 so it could be that the way they designed the usb port it all just works as needed for this.
I'm interested in the usecase/motivation for doing both at the same time if you don't mind sharing.
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OTG while using MHL sounds like a great way to fry something important on your phone. it's clear the note 2 had something like this in mind with the smart dock. it looks like the smart dock works with the S3 so it could be that the way they designed the usb port it all just works as needed for this.
I'm interested in the usecase/motivation for doing both at the same time if you don't mind sharing.
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Well my Skyrocket screen was destroyed by my youngest son So, I had an idea to use the old phone with the MHL adapter to connect to my TV (which is not a smart TV). The need for the OTG is to plug in peripherals such as kb/mouse, but after further review, i could probably just use bluetooth. The device itself doesn't need to have much storage really, all of the movies are being streamed from my mini home server (DLNA).
So instead of going out and spending 60 on a smart TV adapater, I figured I would try to make use of what I already had, a phone with a broken screen. I'm not even sure the digitizer works and I was unable to find a replacement screen a decent price. The phone has already been replaced with a Nexus 4, so I'm not really concerned with the "safety" of the skyrocket.
I think it would be nice to use it as a TV adapter, surf net, play games watch movies while in bed using a wireless mouse/keyboard.
You would think there would already be something like this out there...
I came across this, then noticed their statement "Use Bluetooth keyboard for wireless control" Which really tells me no OTG... and heard was broken ha.
http://www.amazon.com/iBolt-Streamer-MHL-Charging-Dock/dp/tech-data/B0094M3DZY/ref=de_a_smtd

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