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[Q] Canadian Moto G (Telus) - Is it carrier locked?

I'm dying to know, is the Telus version carrier locked? I have a sinking feeling it is, but one can hope, right?

I just bought one this morning. I will let you know when I get it. I unlocked my moto x for $8 and I'm assuming this should be just as easy and cheap to unlock.

my question too, i wanna buy one but use it on wind mobile i was wondering the same thing too.

I bought one today. It's locked (tested with a Rogers sim)

Yes, it is locked.
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unlock service
Cool! Which unlocked service did you use?

leppo said:
I bought one today. It's locked (tested with a Rogers sim)
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plznote said:
Yes, it is locked.
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Did you Buy it from telus or koodo?

avi30na said:
Did you Buy it from telus or koodo?
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Telus... bought outright

leppo said:
Telus... bought outright
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In for more info on unlocking it. I've never owned a Moto android phone, but I have owned Samsung HTC and Sony. I was looking to buy one outright from Telus as well and use it with my existing Rogers SIM... currently an i896 Captivate...

avi30na said:
my question too, i wanna buy one but use it on wind mobile i was wondering the same thing too.
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the g doesn't have AWS/1700 band, so it won't work with wind.

sporb said:
the g doesn't have AWS/1700 band, so it won't work with wind.
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from Wikipedia
Wind Mobile provides UMTS wireless services with High Speed Packet Access (HSPA) for data, using its license on the UMTS IV frequency band, also known as Advanced Wireless Services (AWS). Using this band, user equipment transmits at 1710–1755 MHz, and receives at 2110–2155 MHz.
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Motorola UK website says the Moto G has UMTS 1700 and 2100.
http://www.motorola.co.uk/consumers/mobile-phones/moto-g-gb.html
Bands/Modes
CDMA: 850/1900 UMTS: 850/900/1700/1900/2100 GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
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sporb said:
the g doesn't have AWS/1700 band, so it won't work with wind.
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sunnycheeba said:
from Wikipedia
Motorola UK website says the Moto G has UMTS 1700 and 2100.
http://www.motorola.co.uk/consumers/mobile-phones/moto-g-gb.html
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yeah ickecked too, on paper it should work but then again they r all locked to telus/koodo and looks like no one has unlocked theirs yet

Now that it's confirmed that there are 2 GSM models of this phone, can anybody confirm which one Telus is selling?
http://www.motorola.com/us/shop-all-mobile-phones-1/Moto-G/moto-g-pdp.html
Global GSM Model: GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz)
US GSM Model: GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps (850, 1700 (AWS), 1900 MHz)
If anybody can post the FCC ID, that would help... Or perhaps the sticker on the box lists the available bands?

Faruk88 said:
Now that it's confirmed that there are 2 GSM models of this phone, can anybody confirm which one Telus is selling?
http://www.motorola.com/us/shop-all-mobile-phones-1/Moto-G/moto-g-pdp.html
Global GSM Model: GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz)
US GSM Model: GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps (850, 1700 (AWS), 1900 MHz)
If anybody can post the FCC ID, that would help... Or perhaps the sticker on the box lists the available bands?
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Looking at the UK website for the retail Moto G http://www.motorola.co.uk/consumers/mobile-phones/Moto-G/moto-g-gb.html
It lists the following bands:
Bands/Modes
CDMA: 850/1900
UMTS: 850/900/1700/1900/2100
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
So that's penta-band 3G and EV-DO CDMA!
This may be a mistake and it seems more likely that the version for sale in Europe is actually the quad-band Global GSM model above?

I dropped by at a Telus store today and asked to see the box for a Moto G. The FCC ID on the label was IHDT56PF1.
From the "Exposure Test Report 1" you can see that the WCDMA bands tested were 850 and 1900MHz. (the FCC only tests the bands that are used in the USA): https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...rame=N&application_id=640163&fcc_id=IHDT56PF1
The US GSM version is IHDT56PF2 - differing only in the last digit. The SAR report lists 850, 1700, and 1900MHz: https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...rame=N&application_id=836630&fcc_id=IHDT56PF2
So unless some trickery is possible such as flashing the radio ROM of one phone onto the other, the Telus-sold version of the Moto G won't have 1700MHz support out of the box.
The label also had the Industry Canada certification number on it, which was 109O-T56PF1. I searched it on Industry Canada's Radio Equipment List, and got this result:
http://www.ic.gc.ca/app/sitt/reltel...ssionid=0001VktzEWaH7HTarJ9DM_DcqaQ:6LBRFVSML
Edit: Looks like I can't link to a search result, but you can perform the search yourself here: http://www.ic.gc.ca/app/sitt/reltel/srch/nwRdSrch.do?lang=eng
Given that they have the same certification number, it looks like the XT1032 and XT1035 are probably identical hardware. My guess is that the latter will go to another provider like Rogers/Fido.

mik101 said:
In for more info on unlocking it. I've never owned a Moto android phone, but I have owned Samsung HTC and Sony. I was looking to buy one outright from Telus as well and use it with my existing Rogers SIM... currently an i896 Captivate...
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I just got the Moto G from Koodo for my niece to use on her Telus account. Hopefully, it will work without being unlocked.
I just sold a mint i896 to a friend of mine. That phone was awesome and is still heavily supported with the latest CM releases

Moto G versions
Hey Guys
I'm trying to make a list of Moto G versions, so that people can know which ones will work with their provider in Canada or other countries.
Look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2544708
If you can add your findings in that thread, I'd appreciate it!
Thanks again!

difference between US and Global Versions

hello!
i ordered the Global GSM version of the moto G will it still work with US carriers?

lamaboy99 said:
hello!
i ordered the Global GSM version of the moto G will it still work with US carriers?
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Yes. I believe the difference is that the US version has the 1700AWS band for T-Mobile. Global has the 2100 band that works better overseas.

Ok thanks I don't have TMobile or one of their subsidiaries anyway and tend to travel over seas in the summer so looks like I made the right choice anyway

US radio specs:
Global GSM Model: GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz)
US GSM Model:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps (850, 1700 (AWS), 1900 MHz)
CDMA Model: CDMA/EVDO Rev A (850, 1900 MHz)
UK Band specs:
HSPA+ DL 21.1Mbps / UL 5.76Mbps- EV-DO Rev.A DL 3.1Mbps / UL 1.8Mbps
Bands/Modes CDMA: 850/1900 UMTS: 850/900/1700/1900/2100 GSM: 850/900/1800/1900
Canada, Telus Only
HSPA 850/900/1900/2100 ; GSM 850/900/1800/1900
above information pulled from thread here by no1_cdn here........
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2544708
i own the uk 8gb version screen capture of preferred list bellow

Thanks for the help guys

I'm thinking of getting the G. I will use it in Germany for 3 wks next year, and use it once (2-3 wks) in Taiwan when I visit my friends and family. I will mostly use it in the US trying out different prepaid plans. I think I'd better get a US version, but is there any chance to get 3G in Europe or Taiwan with a US version?
Thanks.
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miinshiou said:
I'm thinking of getting the G. I will use it in Germany for 3 wks next year, and use it once (2-3 wks) in Taiwan when I visit my friends and family. I will mostly use it in the US trying out different prepaid plans. I think I'd better get a US version, but is there any chance to get 3G in Europe or Taiwan with a US version?
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No with the US version you will NOT get 3G in Europe or Taiwan. You will get 2G however. If you want 3G overseas you need to the global version but you lose T-mobiles AWS band support.

thanks. Is there a phone (moto x, nexus 5, or anything) that support 3G band of all carriers in all regions?
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A thing that I've noticed in the reviews is that the US versions of the phone, the cases (at least the black one) has a "metallic" look on that M on the back while the Global / European version that M it's only glossy.

Just got my US 16gb model yesterday via Amazon. Back cover has a glossy black "M" logo, nothing metallic about it.
Bummer to hear this phone won't do 3G in Europe, I went with the USA model since I just moved over to T-mobile, and a lot of the 3G signal in my area is still on 1700 mhz. My AT&T phone was getting 3G in a lot of areas, but just enough EDGE data to annoy me and make me buy the G.

[Q] Will the xt1032 work in Japan?

My gf has the Moto G 2013 (1st Edition) Global GSM xt1032. Will it work in Japan?
Here are the specs from Motorola's website:
Global GSM Model:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps (850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz)
Requires a microSIM card (not included)
GSMareana.com claims Japan supports the following frequencies:
JAPAN
2G capabilities
3G capabilities : UMTS 800, UMTS 900, UMTS 1500, UMTS 1700, UMTS 2100
4G capabilities : LTE 850, LTE 1500, LTE 1800, LTE 2100, LTE 2500
It would appear Japan supports UMTS 900 and 2100 which the xt1032 supports so 3g should work, but I don't know if I am doing this right so I would like confirmation.
Thank you!

I've used mine with no issues for around 5months! I believe Japan uses UMTS 2100.
However, you will probably not be able to use the special mobile email that Japanese networks use.

Verizon Simultaneous Voice and Data

Does anyone know if the new 2015 Moto G will support simultaneous voice and data when used in the US on Verizon?

bdr9 said:
Does anyone know if the new 2015 Moto G will support simultaneous voice and data when used in the US on Verizon?
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From the specs listed on the Motorola site, it doesn't look like it'll be on Verizon:
Moto G - Sprint Prepaid, US Cellular, Virgin Mobile (XT1548)
LTE (2, 4, 5, 12, 17, 25, 26)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 1700, 1900 MHz)
CDMA (800, 850, 1900 MHz)
TD-LTE (41 TD2500)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
It states Sprint, US Cellular, and Virgin Mobile.

alfick3 said:
From the specs listed on the Motorola site, it doesn't look like it'll be on Verizon:
Moto G - Sprint Prepaid, US Cellular, Virgin Mobile (XT1548)
LTE (2, 4, 5, 12, 17, 25, 26)
UMTS/HSPA+ (850, 1700, 1900 MHz)
CDMA (800, 850, 1900 MHz)
TD-LTE (41 TD2500)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
It states Sprint, US Cellular, and Virgin Mobile.
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This sucks!!!! Sometimes I wish Verizon would just take away my UDP so I could leave!

JulesJam said:
This sucks!!!! Sometimes I wish Verizon would just take away my UDP so I could leave!
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Yeah, the gen 1 was sold by Verizon, 'course, it was locked up tight and you couldn't put a recovery on it, to my knowledge.
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alfick3 said:
Yeah, the gen 1 was sold by Verizon, 'course, it was locked up tight and you couldn't put a recovery on it, to my knowledge.
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Once it started shipping with 4.4.4, then you couldn't unlock the bootloader any more.

pixel 3 frequencies

Someone made a comparison for Pixel 3 between US Google Store and SG (Singapore) google store, the spec difference between these two sites for Pixel 3 will be the US version of Pixel 3 will not have:
UMTS/HSPA+/HSDPA: Bands 1/2/4/5/8
Will this affects the user as malaysia (like i am) operator still using HSPA+ frequency?
Network (Google store US)
World-wide network/carrier compatibility with
GSM/EDGE: Quad-band (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
CDMA EVDO Rev A: BC0/BC1/BC10
WCDMA: W1/W2
FDD-LTE: Bands⁷ 1*/2*/3*/4*/5/7*/8/12/13/17/18/19/20/25*/
26/28/29/32/66*/71
TD-LTE: Bands 38*/39/40/41*/42/46
Supports up to CAT 16 (1Gbps DL / 75Mbps UL), 5x DL CA, 4x4 MIMO, LAA, 256-QAM DL and 64-QAM UL depending on carrier support
eSIM⁹
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Channels (Google store SG)
World-wide network/carrier compatibility with:⁶
GSM/EDGE: Quad-band (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS/HSPA+/HSDPA: Bands 1/2/4/5/8
CDMA EVDO Rev A: BC0/BC1/BC10
WCDMA: W1/W2
FDD-LTE : Bands⁷ 1*/2*/3*/4*/5/7*/8/12/13/17/18/19/20/25*/
26/28/29/30/32/66*/71
TD-LTE: Bands 38*/39/40/41*/42/46
Supports up to CAT 16 (1Gbps DL/75Mbps UL), 5x DL CA, 4x4 MIMO, LAA, 256-QAM DL and 64-QAM UL depending on operator support
eSIM capable
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