When I was using 4.3 the scroll was by no means slow, but I had the occasional stutter here and there in apps like Chrome or baconreader.
Since I've updated I've noticed that the scrolling is even smoother than before, in baconreader I don't get any stutter at all, it's just crazy fast, and Chrome too.
So, was there anything done to scrolling or performance in 4.4 or it's just placebo effect?
cesc1972 said:
When I was using 4.3 the scroll was by no means slow but I had the occasional stutter here and there in apps loke Chrome or baconreader.
Since I've updated I've noticed that the scrolling is even smoother than before, in baconreader I don't get any stutter at all, it's just crazy fast, and Chrome too.
So, was there anything done to scrolling or performance in 4.4 or it's just placebo effect?
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I don't know about the scrolling, to me it was always really good so I cant tell the difference. But at least kikat fixed my parsing package problem :]
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I have found that 3rd party apps are lackluster in their scrolling mostly. Just wondering if anyone has noticed any difference so far? I know they said that list scrolling would be improved but im wondering if its still completely dependent on developers to use Mango coding to their advantage or whether Mango inherently improves. Eg. IMDB--app is great but it still suffers from choppy/laggy scrolling throughout the interface. Anyone?
I noticed the same issue as well, i was pretty stoked to get smooth scrolling, haha
I thought the apps had to be re-compiled and re-submitted for them to see that improvement? Maybe I'm wrong. Either way, all the apps I just tested were very smooth/responsive - including IMDB.
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I thought the apps had to be re-compiled and re-submitted for them to see that improvement? Maybe I'm wrong. Either way, all the apps I just tested were very smooth/responsive - including IMDB.
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They could always be coded more efficiently, but Mango is bringing OS wide improvements to this. Check out the keynote day 2 video at Mix11 this year around the 1:02:00 mark I believe.
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/belfiore/04-13-11mix11.mspx?rss_fdn=Custom
The difference is going to be profound, especially since smooth scroll and responsiveness will be present while things load in the background now.
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They could always be coded more efficiently, but Mango is bringing OS wide improvements to this. Check out the keynote day 2 video at Mix11 this year around the 1:02:00 mark I believe.
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/exec/belfiore/04-13-11mix11.mspx?rss_fdn=Custom
The difference is going to be profound, especially since smooth scroll and responsiveness will be present while things load in the background now.
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believe it or not...thats my number one thing im looking forward to in mango, for me its stability and smoothness over anything. of course the other 500+ features are pretty cool
Fast forward to 17:54 to see the feature:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0Q9jiLoFM0
Definitely smoother, even with the same apps as before the update. Twitter apps are noticeably smoother when scrolling, and there's less lag when they're grabbing new data.
Everything is much faster. Love it.
BTW, is it only me or did they remove the animation when going to the start screen? I miss it.
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Everything is much faster. Love it.
BTW, is it only me or did they remove the animation when going to the start screen? I miss it.
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noticed that when watching a few mango videos, hopefully it will be in the final release
Certain apps now scroll wonderfully. It was like the scrolling issues never existed. Its awesome.
But not all apps do this. I guess some of them have to be rewritten or maybe some were never just optimized to begin with.
Yeah, a lot of them scroll much better just like MS claimed. A few apps however, do not get more responsive scrolling wise. Facebook and imdb are the ones I noticed.
All the other twitter apps and things that have long lists scroll perfectly though. Great great great improvement.
wrxdrunkie said:
Yeah, a lot of them scroll much better just like MS claimed. A few apps however, do not get more responsive scrolling wise. Facebook and imdb are the ones I noticed.
All the other twitter apps and things that have long lists scroll perfectly though. Great great great improvement.
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Have you updated to the latest Facebook app update (2.0)? Ever since that update and Mango, scrolling has been buttery smooth, and even performance overall has just been better.
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Have you updated to the latest Facebook app update (2.0)? Ever since that update and Mango, scrolling has been buttery smooth, and even performance overall has just been better.
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Yeah I have updated it. The first section of the app is fast and smooth. But when I go to "most recent" that is where I experience the pre-mango scrolling
Why the hell is scrolling in chrome sooooooo sloooooow???
Does anyone have any tips or tricks to improve this? I will settle for insight. My Tf101 had no problem with scrolling in chrome, so it's mind boggling that it is so bad on the tf700.
Also...I have tried it with both ICS and JB. No difference.
Well if your rooted then you can always try browser2 ram if not I suggest dolphin browser with the jet pack add on.
+1 browser2ram.
There is a difference between lag and slow scrolling though.
With lag sometimes the browser seems to freeze for a moment when attempting to scroll. Browser2ram fixes lag.
Slow scrolling, when a scroll up or down gesture moves a seemingly small amount of lines, is a difference between the stock browser and chrome. Browser2ram won't fix slow scrolling.
Also chrome does use GPU rendering I think
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Ologn said:
There is a difference between lag and slow scrolling though.
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Exactly...it's the scrolling I am questioning. I just upgraded from a tf101 to the infinity, and really would prefer to use chrome...but the scrolling/swiping stinks.
When i scroll, sometimes the page doesn't start scrolling until my finger is almost off the device, as if it doesn't register my gesture immediately. Will browser2ram fix this?
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When i scroll, sometimes the page doesn't start scrolling until my finger is almost off the device, as if it doesn't register my gesture immediately. Will browser2ram fix this?
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If the tablet was busy writing something to the disk cache at that time, then yes. If it was due to some other reason, then no.
Is this an issue or a feature? Since I started using the S6 I noticed that the scrolling down on big webpages feels stuck and laggy, it's not smooth as it was in the G2.
Have you noticed it too?
Facebook works kinda good for me...
But chrome work rly bad even after installing that support libary from the appstore
Anyway i have set up the default browser
And it works much much better then chrome
Alot faster and very easy/simple to use...
You should try it.
There's sometjing weird happening with the Java Script in Chrome I believe. IMO the stock Samsung Browser works way better.
changed to stock browser from chrome because of the lagg and poor loading times..stock s6 browser is way faster by a mile! and smooth as silk!!
Is there any reason why my google chrome, after awhile, becomes really sluggish and laggy. Like sometimes when scrolling down, it just down right freezes there for a good minute before resuming control. Loading and changing pages causes really choppy and laggy performance. I have turned off the "merge tabs and apps" setting.
I know the simple solution would be to change browsers, but I do like this one. I would have assumed this browser is really good with the nexus 5 as they are both from google :/
Same here
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Though it is a Chrome problem, you can fix it by using certain kernels. I am using Codeblue 938 and Sooplus latest for that matter.
It's so darn bloated. It stops scrolling on mine. I had enough. Took it out and put the new adaway /Firefox browser instead. Adaway is made by an xda Dev. It has a setting allowing fair advertising but gets rid of the intrusive. You can get rid of all advertising but I'm with adaway. Things have to be paid for in a reasonable way. Chrome is a mess and I'd advice you to junk it. It's still stuttering and sticking on 5.1.1
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Is there any reason why my google chrome, after awhile, becomes really sluggish and laggy. Like sometimes when scrolling down, it just down right freezes there for a good minute before resuming control. Loading and changing pages causes really choppy and laggy performance. I have turned off the "merge tabs and apps" setting.
I know the simple solution would be to change browsers, but I do like this one. I would have assumed this browser is really good with the nexus 5 as they are both from google :/
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Franco or elementalx kernel?
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Hi,
I've noticed that some apps run very smooth, but others can lag for no reason.
For example Play Store. When you open Play Store and start scrolling to the bottom of the home screen (lets say 3-4 rows of apps per swipe down) it lags a lot. It's nowhere close to being smooth. Even when you're at the bottom so everything has loaded, it still isn't smooth when scrolling up and down using normal scroll speed.
Reddit is Fun is also an app that has lots of lag / stutters for me.
Does anyone else experience this?
damanrico said:
Hi,
I've noticed that some apps run very smooth, but others can lag for no reason.
For example Play Store. When you open Play Store and start scrolling to the bottom of the home screen (lets say 3-4 rows of apps per swipe down) it lags a lot. It's nowhere close to being smooth. Even when you're at the bottom so everything has loaded, it still isn't smooth when scrolling up and down using normal scroll speed.
Reddit is Fun is also an app that has lots of lag / stutters for me.
Does anyone else experience this?
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no. i haven't yet experienced any (major) lag in any app (have Play Store obviously and Reddit is Fun installed).. currently on 1.13.401.1.. also as some apps are smooth for you and others not, i would say blame the apps, but lag and smoothness are such subjective terms that I can only say I don't see any lag.
damanrico said:
Hi,
I've noticed that some apps run very smooth, but others can lag for no reason.
For example Play Store. When you open Play Store and start scrolling to the bottom of the home screen (lets say 3-4 rows of apps per swipe down) it lags a lot. It's nowhere close to being smooth. Even when you're at the bottom so everything has loaded, it still isn't smooth when scrolling up and down using normal scroll speed.
Reddit is Fun is also an app that has lots of lag / stutters for me.
Does anyone else experience this?
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Do you have a password manager such as LastPass installed? They can cause lag issues if you have the accessability option set to fill passwords in apps.
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no. i haven't yet experienced any (major) lag in any app (have Play Store obviously and Reddit is Fun installed).. currently on 1.13.401.1.. also as some apps are smooth for you and others not, i would say blame the apps, but lag and smoothness are such subjective terms that I can only say I don't see any lag.
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Well I can't really blame Play Store since it's a default app. If you don't experience such lag, it must have something to do with my device.
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Do you have a password manager such as LastPass installed? They can cause lag issues if you have the accessability option set to fill passwords in apps.
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Nope.
Here's a short video with GPU Profiling on showing the spikes and stutters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUyyZc-_UGI&feature=youtu.be
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Here's a short video with GPU Profiling on showing the spikes and stutters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUyyZc-_UGI&feature=youtu.be
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i can experience the same "problem" you have. Everybody has it , trust me, but not everybody is sensible like we are.
i also see that the "go back" animation for example in settings is also stutter in 2 /10 times.
boby3104 said:
i can experience the same "problem" you have. Everybody has it , trust me, but not everybody is sensible like we are.
i also see that the "go back" animation for example in settings is also stutter in 2 /10 times.
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Thanks for your reply.
It's strange to me that the top of the line hardware can't even manage to make scrolling a default app like Play Store feel smooth. Even when viewing text comments within the Reddit is Fun app isn't always smooth. That's just scrolling text, not even loading images.
I guess I have to deal with it then. I expected more for this price range.
It's not the device. It's just poorly written apps. Compare for instance Facebook app and metal on older devices. They do the same thing but the experience is night and day. This a fairly new device so updates will come but playstore always stutters no matter the phone. It's been like that for years and I tried maaaaany devices
yes it has absolutely nothing to do with the hardware/device. like @mlodykaras said, it just poor coding.
Okay thanks for all your feedback guys!
Let's hope Google will learn how to write applications for Android correctly :silly:
Well to come back to this. The lag is just insane, there's no other way to put it. When I compare scrolling through the same text with my old Lenovo K3 Note, the U11 lags and stutters all the time while the Lenovo K3 Note doesn't stutter at all. That's just scrolling through text!
I've noticed that if you change the Interactive governor to Performance, the U11 doesn't lag anymore. But this isn't great for the CPU and for battery life of course.
Video 1 shows a 1080p 60fps Twitch stream. You can notice there are some spikes and overall it's close to the green line.
Video 2 shows the same 1080p 60fps Twitch stream. You can notice there are no spikes and overall it's not even close to the green line.
Video 3 shows the same comment thread in Reddit is Fun. I start by using the Performance governor and you can see me switch to the Interactive governor a little later. It's clear there are a ton of spikes using Interactive.
This really shouldn't be happening on such an expensive device.
I've even reverted back to stock using RUU, fresh install no restoring done. Same issues.
I have also noticed few apps other than play store. I am from India and some apps like BookMyShow & Inbox from Gmail stutters and there are always some frame drops. I tested BookMyShow in One plus 5, it runs very smoothly. Idk why it is like this and whether it'll be corrected or not.
My old debloated Galaxy S6 had smoother scrolling in apps in comparison with HTC10 and U11. HTC should adjust some kernel settings ot OS to fix this, it is very annoying. I really hope it will be fixed with Oreo update.
Windforce0511 said:
My old debloated Galaxy S6 had smoother scrolling in apps in comparison with HTC10 and U11. HTC should adjust some kernel settings ot OS to fix this, it is very annoying. I really hope it will be fixed with Oreo update.
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I don't think it would get fixed with oreo update as its not something that requires an overall new version of android.
Had it supposed to be changed, it would've changed by HTC in those 2-3 updates came out till now after the launch.
Problem with HTC is they do not take or even consider feedbacks unless there is some major major glitch.
For HTC this scrolling stutter and overblown of highlights and light sources in camera is just minor issues and they don't care about it.
On the other hand, there is google which takes every feedback seriously and tries to improve the Pixels on the software level as much as the software can.
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Problem with HTC is they do not take or even consider feedbacks unless there is some major major glitch.
For HTC this scrolling stutter and overblown of highlights and light sources in camera is just minor issues and they don't care about it.
On the other hand, there is google which takes every feedback seriously and tries to improve the Pixels on the software level as much as the software can.
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Well Google does create Android so...