is there any kernel or mod that can take advantage of the snapdragon 800 voice activation? i don't mean on the home screen when you can say OK Google.. I mean like the moto x
if you go to the snapdragon 800 on Qualcomm's site you can see the bottom right video about the voice activation
namnam123 said:
is there any kernel or mod that can take advantage of the snapdragon 800 voice activation? i don't mean on the home screen when you can say OK Google.. I mean like the moto x
if you go to the snapdragon 800 on Qualcomm's site you can see the bottom right video about the voice activation
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You might want to check out utter!.
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You might want to check out utter![/URL].
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i dont mean a voice command app,im ok with google now. i mean something that can wake your phone up with a key word like on the moto x, and takes advantage of the snapdragon 800 low power voice activation
namnam123 said:
i dont mean a voice command app,im ok with google now. i mean something that can wake your phone up with a key word like on the moto x, and takes advantage of the snapdragon 800 low power voice activation
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I know, it would be great if that were possible, but, afaik, it's not. That's why I suggested to take a look at utter!: it has an "always listening" feature, and, can access Google Now directly. It could be installed just for that purpose as a kind of workaround. Further, the app's main functionality is pretty comprehensive and handy, and could be used alongside Google Now.
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I know, it would be great if that were possible, but, afaik, it's not. That's why I suggested to take a look at utter!: it has an "always listening" feature, and, can access Google Now directly. It could be installed just for that purpose as a kind of workaround. Further, the app's main functionality is pretty comprehensive and handy, and could be used alongside Google Now.
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thanks.. i just tried utter, it's cool but it kinda ate right through my battery
i wouldn't say its not possible, as the snapdragon 800 has support for it.. if i was a developer id check it out.. but im not
namnam123 said:
thanks.. i just tried utter, it's cool but it kinda ate right through my battery
i wouldn't say its not possible, as the snapdragon 800 has support for it.. if i was a developer id check it out.. but im not
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Ah, that's a shame. Well I hope something gets developed soon. It's definitely a cool thing to have.
qualcomm . com/media/videos/snapdragon-voice-activation
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Ah, that's a shame. Well I hope something gets developed soon. It's definitely a cool thing to have.
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ya id thought there'd be a big hype on it i just researched it and not alot of people care about it which is strange cause its one of the bests features to have
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hi, I read that google now ("ok google") only activates when the screen is on. I was wondering if theres a hack or setting somewhere where you can activate it with the screen off? I mostly want this for hands-free use in the car, so I can avoid having to touch the phone while driving (big no no).
also, is there a site somewhere explaining all the features of what you can say/ask google now? or even a link with comparisons between siri and google now, and what google now cant do that siri does? I ask this cuz ill be coming from iPhone.
thanks.
I think that would really drain the battery - if possible!
However, here is a collection on some of the commands you can ask google now:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1961636
I'm really surprised how great it works! And i live in Denmark, where i can't even take full use of everything
samsung has had this with s-voice. and i think motorola enabled google now to do this on the motox but i'm not sure. yes it drains battery, but how much? depends on the cpu and driver and the software involved..... i don't have my nexus yet so i can't say "how" to do this but i would expect it to be an eventual custom feature if not a future update if it's not already in a setting somewhere.
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I think that would really drain the battery - if possible!
However, here is a collection on some of the commands you can ask google now:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1961636
I'm really surprised how great it works! And i live in Denmark, where i can't even take full use of everything
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Everything I've read has claimed that the Nexus 5 should handle this as well as MotoX since it has the Snapdragon 800. Have we ever gotten an official answer on why this won't work?
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I think that would really drain the battery - if possible!
However, here is a collection on some of the commands you can ask google now:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1961636
I'm really surprised how great it works! And i live in Denmark, where i can't even take full use of everything
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hey thanks for the link. battery drain wouldn't be too much of an issue, as usually I would just use it while the device is being charged in my car, but it would be nice to use sometimes without as well, and while leaving the screen on would be nice, a slow charging car charger, is going to charge faster with the screen off, as that's usually the most power hungry lol. so it would be nice to have the voice activation at will while using.
If some of the launcher/search code was open source, I'd imagine this would be quite easy to do.
Pretty sure I read somewhere that the 'always listening' (for "OK Google" command) requires some hardware functionality. So no, it would not be possible like it is on the Moto X.
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i'd imagine you could port parts of the moto x rom into the nexus. things like this have been done before. just have to find all the dependancies.
Dani897 said:
i'd imagine you could port parts of the moto x rom into the nexus. things like this have been done before. just have to find all the dependancies.
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I mean, if you had access to the facilities used by the n5 launcher source, you could likely utilize them when screen is off via software pretty easily.
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Pretty sure I read somewhere that the 'always listening' (for "OK Google" command) requires some hardware functionality. So no, it would not be possible like it is on the Moto X.
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Yes. But from what I understand the snapdragon 800 has that hardware built in.
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http://www.qualcomm.com/snapdragon/processors/800
Video is about 1/2 way down on the right. Processor is capable.
Lets see if I can't clear things up. If you want your phone to be always listening, you need hardware support for it unless you want your phone to die in a matter of hours. If you are okay with this , check out this app. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.RSen.OpenMic.Pheonix It also lets you configure things like only when charging or just when the screen is on to save some battery, and its actually a very nice app overall. Worth checking out.
The Moto x has a special custom chip set that allows for this always listening. Any attempt to port that feature from the Moto x would fail, as the Nexus 5 doesn't have the same chip set. The nexus 5 however, does have hardware that allows for always listening, its part of the Snapdragon 800 SOC that powers this phone, along with the Note 3 and LG G2.
But getting the feature to actually work on our phones, even with the hardware, is by no means an easy task. Read the comments on this post if you want to get an idea for what this entails. https://plus.google.com/112424215551484520138/posts/AznwFxbBapJ
So is it possible? Yes. But it is not something that is gonna be a quick easy port of small modification of an existing app, it would take some real serious work form (maybe a team even of) good Dev's to make this function.
Sorry if its not the news you wanted to hear.
Well now it's been more than a year since this thread is dead but i bought my N5 recently and i wonder is there any progress in this matter will it be possible ? (G+ comments on link provided by above like shows it may be possible...as SD800 has privilege for it but at time of this thread it was only available to OMEs so it made public yet ? ) . did any dev tried to dig into this matter ?
jineshpatel30 said:
Well now it's been more than a year since this thread is dead but i bought my N5 recently and i wonder is there any progress in this matter will it be possible ? (G+ comments on link provided by above like shows it may be possible...as SD800 has privilege for it but at time of this thread it was only available to OMEs so it made public yet ? ) . did any dev tried to dig into this matter ?
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It won't happen on an N5 . ?
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It won't happen on an N5 . ?
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that's sad but okay ! what else we can say
If you're plugged in/wireless charging Google Now Voice commands work with the screen off.
Settings>Language & Input > Voice Input> Enhanced Google services> "OK Google" Detection>From any screen> enabled
"responds to your voice. Works when the screen is on or the device is charging."
make sure the next option "personal results" is also enabled if you want Google Now to be able to do anything
Try this app, Open Mic+. It'll do the job.
[XPosed Mod] HiGoogle - "Hi Galaxy" phrase opens Google Now instead of S-Voice
I present to you: my first ever XPosed Mod HiGoogle!
It's really my first original android app. The first one I didn't follow some sort of tutorial to make anyways. It opens Google Now natively when you say "Hi Galaxy" instead of the crappy S-Voice app. It took me forever to get this done, but in the end I learned a ton about how both Android and XPosed work. :good: So w00t for me, :good: chalk that one up as a personal accomplishment.
Anyways, it still needs S-Voice to run. S-Voice is what controls the always listening feature of the phone. in the future I plan on changing that, and perhaps changing the trigger phrase as well (fingers crossed!) So while we can't get rid of S-Voice yet, this removes the need to use a middle-man app like tasker to open it, which in the end, makes things a hair faster (and $6 cheaper.) I think we can all agree that faster is better.
So while it's not the perfect solution yet, it's a move in the right direction and hopefully more will come of it.
This has only been tested on 2 Notes so far, a T-Mo and a VZW, but it should work on any Samsung with 'Hi Galaxy" always listening support. I'm personally on version 11.2.2.0 of S-Voice but I'm not sure if that matters. Report any issues or and I will try to deal with them as fast as I can.
It's not my fault if you break stuff.
:good: <------ Hit my donate button and buy me a bud if you like it!:good:
Here's the sauce: https://github.com/Bots/HiGoogle
Oh and thanks to user runnirr for helping me
About to try this out!!! ?
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djnoicatse said:
About to try this out!!! ?
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Cool let me know if you have any issues.
Does this close s-voice when it opens, then open voice search?
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Does this close s-voice when it opens, then open voice search?
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No, currently it just opens Google Now over SVoice, as SVoice is what controls the service that listens for commands. I'll look into that though it's a good idea, I may be able to kill the app but leave the service running.
oh so sad so so sad... i thougth you are a magician and managed to change the Voice recognition phrase...The developer Skilllevel for that is like getting knox from 0x1 to 0x0....from what i've heard
There are already apps for your purposes. I use S for Switch Voice
But thank you very much for your developing and sharing. :good:
Instead you maybe could try to get the "OK Google" command working for German and every other language. Because when google fails with recognition you have to grab your phone and tap on the mic button or wait until the screen shuts down. It is only possible when Google now language is english. This is something which really annoyes...
cheers
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oh so sad so so sad... i thougth you are a magician and managed to change the Voice recognition phrase...The developer Skilllevel for that is like getting knox from 0x1 to 0x0....from what i've heard
There are already apps for your purposes. I use S for Switch Voice
But thank you very much for your developing and sharing. :good:
Instead you maybe could try to get the "OK Google" command working for German and every other language. Because when google fails with recognition you have to grab your phone and tap on the mic button or wait until the screen shuts down. It is only possible when Google now language is english. This is something which really annoyes...
cheers
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I plan on working on this in the future. I got a pretty good idea of how that app works after rummaging through it trying to hook a method :good:
BotsOne said:
I plan on working on this in the future. I got a pretty good idea of how that app works after rummaging through it trying to hook a method :good:
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Nice, (or should i say YeeHaw ) this is where my hopes were.
And do you think it is possible to change the wake up command from "Hi Galaxy" to anything we want too? I heard it's nearly impossible...but chainfire isn't the only magician around here...
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Nice, (or should i say YeeHaw ) this is where my hopes were.
And do you think it is possible to change the wake up command from "Hi Galaxy" to anything we want too? I heard it's nearly impossible...but chainfire isn't the only magician around here...
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That all depends. I found some type of file that looks like it might be some kind of a raw audio or a wav file possibly. I'm digging deeper into Samsung's code whenever I have time trying to understand what's going on. I'm gonna have to keep studying before I can get to that point, but I think that will be part of the natural progression of the updates to this app. Has Chainfire done any work on this?
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That all depends. I found some type of file that looks like it might be some kind of a raw audio or a wav file possibly. I'm digging deeper into Samsung's code whenever I have time trying to understand what's going on. I'm gonna have to keep studying before I can get to that point, but I think that will be part of the natural progression of the updates to this app. Has Chainfire done any work on this?
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No not that i've heard of. Today i recognized that the "Google Now launcher" works with "OK Google" in german. So maybe you can find something when making a code comparison to use the OK Google command no matter how your phone and or googles now language is...
How is this any better than one of those apps that does the same thing?
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How is this any better than one of those apps that does the same thing?
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As of now, overhead.
This mod will rid you of one extra service running on your phone compared to those other apps. If all you want is Google Now instead of S-Voice then this is probably the better solution. If you want a bunch more options, use one of those other apps. I have more plans for the future but I was super excited to release my first contribution to the community :victory:
I think is a great idea. I for one have been using an app called S for Switch Voice that overrides SVoice and launches Google Now. It works great and dont have any problems and doesn't cause much or at the very least battery drain. But im willing to try this.
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Doesn't Work in Note 3 N900t 4.4.2
Doesn't Work in Note 3 N900t 4.4.2 when phone is unlocked. Nothing happens. It launches google now when the screen is off but you have to swipe to unlock to access google now. I disabled it. Good idea but it needs work.
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Doesn't Work in Note 3 N900t 4.4.2 when phone is unlocked. Nothing happens. It launches google now when the screen is off but you have to swipe to unlock to access google now. I disabled it. Good idea but it needs work.
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Same issue with me on a Rogers Note.
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Blue1k said:
Same issue with me on a Rogers Note.
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I'll look into it I used an older method of wakelocking to try to get around that, but I guess it doesn't work for all. What version of android are you running?
Ah I was looking for something like this, but that was before I installed the S5 launcher
Now I get the best of both. This is a good mod for those who want the stock launcher though! Good work.
Well done... keep up the good work.
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I'll look into it I used an older method of wakelocking to try to get around that, but I guess it doesn't work for all. What version of android are you running?
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I can report the exact same issue on a Sprint Note 3...
KitKat 4.4.2
I can provide any other details you request...
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I'll look into it I used an older method of wakelocking to try to get around that, but I guess it doesn't work for all. What version of android are you running?
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4.4.2
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I came across this in the Opo forum. The Dev says it shouldnt be to hard to port to the Nexus 5. Just wondering if anyone wants to give it a go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56210279
Jacob030 said:
I came across this in the Opo forum. The Dev says it shouldnt be to hard to port to the Nexus 5. Just wondering if anyone wants to give it a go.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=56210279
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This would be nice, but if I recall correctly there was legal issues with changing the low power core used for the pedometer, for other things.
TheROMGuy said:
This would be nice, but if I recall correctly there was legal issues with changing the low power core used for the pedometer, for other things.
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I didn't even think we had a low power core.
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I didn't even think we had a low power core.
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I'm not entirely for sure but I'm pretty sure I read somewhere on here that we had a low power core, and that someone had accessed it to use always listening but would have gotten in legal trouble if he had distributed it.
TheROMGuy said:
I'm not entirely for sure but I'm pretty sure I read somewhere on here that we had a low power core, and that someone had accessed it to use always listening but would have gotten in legal trouble if he had distributed it.
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Interesting...
Because that too would help with Doubletap 2 wake...
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Interesting...
Because that too would help with Doubletap 2 wake...
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Yea, but of course, the legality of it is questioned.
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Because that too would help with Doubletap 2 wake...
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Wouldn't help for wake gestures at all.
Lethargy said:
800 is just as capable as the 801. Low-power core is just used for a hardware pedometer instead of "always listening", as well as legal issues if you were to enable it without permission.
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Lethargy said:
The low-powered core is only good for things that usually require wakelocks (i.e. always listening, music playing, hardware pedometer). Screen-off gestures are done at kernel level and does NOT require a wakelock, so the low-powered core is completely useless in that regard.
Only factor determining if screen-off gestures drains or not is how power is provided to the panel. If it's possible to power the digitizer on separately, then it uses less battery. If you have to power the entire panel on, it'll use more. Either way, it's the exact same thing and not really done much differently across all devices; just make sure the digitizer is powered in any way and wake the device (or whatever) on specific gestures.
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Lethargy said:
Wouldn't help for wake gestures at all.
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Gah I hate being wrong. Whats worse is I actually knew that once too!
But, would there be any legal issues if it was a feature ported from another phone.......
the nexus 5 low power core was defaulted to count steps instead of being a low power core. i dont think that it can be the low power core as we would like it to be. but i guess with lots of work, it could be possible?
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the nexus 5 low power core was defaulted to count steps instead of being a low power core. i dont think that it can be the low power core as we would like it to be. but i guess with lots of work, it could be possible?
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It is possible just not entirely legal.
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But, would there be any legal issues if it was a feature ported from another phone.......
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Its still using the same low-powered core. Unless you want to somehow rip it out of a OnePlus One and hack it into a Nexus 5 (i.e. pretty much impossible and hardly a good idea)
simms22 said:
the nexus 5 low power core was defaulted to count steps instead of being a low power core. i dont think that it can be the low power core as we would like it to be. but i guess with lots of work, it could be possible?
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It's still a low powered core (and the same one as any other device with the Snapdragon 800 SoC), just being used for a different purpose.
I don't know what it would take to reprogram it/use it for other purposes, but its been done before and there was a proof-of-concept, method not released because of the legal ramifications. If there isn't a way around it/loophole, or a legal way to do it, then you'll have to wait a few years until the Nexus 5 becomes an old legacy device that nobody cares about lol
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Gah I hate being wrong. Whats worse is I actually knew that once too!
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This is like the third time it's been explained to me and I still can't get it right. Don't feel bad. xD
if its a legal issue, then its something that someone would be able to do to legally to their own phone, just wont be able to distribute it. something like posting instructions how to do it would be legal, just distributing the finished mod could be illegal. but i dont see where legality would come into affect on this.
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if its a legal issue, then its something that someone would be able to do to legally to their own phone, just wont be able to distribute it. something like posting instructions how to do it would be legal, just distributing the finished mod could be illegal. but i dont see where legality would come into affect on this.
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All sorts of strange laws about. Way back when, when i was a blackberry owner, it was against forum rules (crackberry) to discuss or give instructions for rebranding as apparently that was "illegal" in the US.
I read that this phone comes with the Google Assistant, which I sort of assumed means screen off ok Google (as it does with the G6 and Pixel), but I don't even have the option to enable it. Do I just have a wonky build or does the device actually not support it? Considering it's an 835 I'm sure the chipset supports always listening.
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I read that this phone comes with the Google Assistant, which I sort of assumed means screen off ok Google (as it does with the G6 and Pixel), but I don't even have the option to enable it. Do I just have a wonky build or does the device actually not support it? Considering it's an 835 I'm sure the chipset supports always listening.
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835?
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835?
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Snapdragon 835
loudog3114 said:
Snapdragon 835
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But OPO has sd801.
XDA detected my device wrong. Adios!
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XDA detected my device wrong. Adios!
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Adios!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...wakeup-t3565831?_e_pi_=7,PAGE_ID10,9207665425
But its battery draining but u can use it while driving mode
As per topic..
anyone knows or have a single bit of idea is native always on display is ever gonna come for this device ?
7T does not have it as well. So my guess: nope.
Which is really amazing/pitiful imho
I wouldn't hold your breath...
very bumped ...
no AOD no notification lights ...
at least what they can do is make the ring pulsate in shorter intervals..
how can anyone know if there is any missed calls or msgs if the phone is not picked up.
remembered they mentioned it was coming.. in May ? June? ...
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very bumped ...
no AOD no notification lights ...
at least what they can do is make the ring pulsate in shorter intervals..
how can anyone know if there is any missed calls or msgs if the phone is not picked up.
remembered they mentioned it was coming.. in May ? June? ...
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I use an app called always on amoled it can uses a bit of battery though but it's the closest I've found to something similar to what Samsung has.
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I use an app called always on amoled it can uses a bit of battery though but it's the closest I've found to something similar to what Samsung has.
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my device gets heated very quickly when that is turned on
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my device gets heated very quickly when that is turned on
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Oh really? That's strange mine is fine. I have the T-Mobile variant btw.
Pixel pulse was my go to alternative for AOD notifications but since it doesn't support 10 yet I just have to deal with missed notifications. First one plus device and probably my last. They make great devices if you SETTLE for less than what mid-range phones offer. I wish I had a Instagram and Twitter I'd call it the CEO. Tell him give us AOD if it takes up battery life that's our choice. It's ignorant honestly. Live and learn I guess. Back to LG or Samsung sadly next time I upgrade. 2 years probably
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Pixel pulse was my go to alternative for AOD notifications but since it doesn't support 10 yet I just have to deal with missed notifications. First one plus device and probably my last. They make great devices if you SETTLE for less than what mid-range phones offer. I wish I had a Instagram and Twitter I'd call it the CEO. Tell him give us AOD if it takes up battery life that's our choice. It's ignorant honestly. Live and learn I guess. Back to LG or Samsung sadly next time I upgrade. 2 years probably
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Use NotifyBuddy apk. You won't have google assistant via "ok google" but it's an option for now
The_Keeper86 said:
I use an app called always on amoled it can uses a bit of battery though but it's the closest I've found to something similar to what Samsung has.
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i've d/led and unlocked it.
while it is nice with customisations and does the job.
it drains quite a lot of batt indeed..
and .. the device remains warm to the touch with it running..
hallo dare said:
Use NotifyBuddy apk. You won't have google assistant via "ok google" but it's an option for now
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Does notify buddy have an update to not kill battery I tried it when it launched and it sucked my battery
lg3FTW said:
Does notify buddy have an update to not kill battery I tried it when it launched and it sucked my battery
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I've no issue with it except for the Google assistant. See screenshot
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.used.aoe
Works great! I don't talk to my phone so I do not know if it will interfere with OK Google.