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Is there a hack to make google now work when screen is off?

hi, I read that google now ("ok google") only activates when the screen is on. I was wondering if theres a hack or setting somewhere where you can activate it with the screen off? I mostly want this for hands-free use in the car, so I can avoid having to touch the phone while driving (big no no).
also, is there a site somewhere explaining all the features of what you can say/ask google now? or even a link with comparisons between siri and google now, and what google now cant do that siri does? I ask this cuz ill be coming from iPhone.
thanks.

I think that would really drain the battery - if possible!
However, here is a collection on some of the commands you can ask google now:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1961636
I'm really surprised how great it works! And i live in Denmark, where i can't even take full use of everything

samsung has had this with s-voice. and i think motorola enabled google now to do this on the motox but i'm not sure. yes it drains battery, but how much? depends on the cpu and driver and the software involved..... i don't have my nexus yet so i can't say "how" to do this but i would expect it to be an eventual custom feature if not a future update if it's not already in a setting somewhere.

reffer2 said:
I think that would really drain the battery - if possible!
However, here is a collection on some of the commands you can ask google now:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1961636
I'm really surprised how great it works! And i live in Denmark, where i can't even take full use of everything
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Everything I've read has claimed that the Nexus 5 should handle this as well as MotoX since it has the Snapdragon 800. Have we ever gotten an official answer on why this won't work?

reffer2 said:
I think that would really drain the battery - if possible!
However, here is a collection on some of the commands you can ask google now:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1961636
I'm really surprised how great it works! And i live in Denmark, where i can't even take full use of everything
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hey thanks for the link. battery drain wouldn't be too much of an issue, as usually I would just use it while the device is being charged in my car, but it would be nice to use sometimes without as well, and while leaving the screen on would be nice, a slow charging car charger, is going to charge faster with the screen off, as that's usually the most power hungry lol. so it would be nice to have the voice activation at will while using.

If some of the launcher/search code was open source, I'd imagine this would be quite easy to do.

Pretty sure I read somewhere that the 'always listening' (for "OK Google" command) requires some hardware functionality. So no, it would not be possible like it is on the Moto X.

bbedward said:
If some of the launcher/search code was open source, I'd imagine this would be quite easy to do.
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i'd imagine you could port parts of the moto x rom into the nexus. things like this have been done before. just have to find all the dependancies.

Dani897 said:
i'd imagine you could port parts of the moto x rom into the nexus. things like this have been done before. just have to find all the dependancies.
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I mean, if you had access to the facilities used by the n5 launcher source, you could likely utilize them when screen is off via software pretty easily.
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akhan47 said:
Pretty sure I read somewhere that the 'always listening' (for "OK Google" command) requires some hardware functionality. So no, it would not be possible like it is on the Moto X.
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Yes. But from what I understand the snapdragon 800 has that hardware built in.
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http://www.qualcomm.com/snapdragon/processors/800
Video is about 1/2 way down on the right. Processor is capable.

Lets see if I can't clear things up. If you want your phone to be always listening, you need hardware support for it unless you want your phone to die in a matter of hours. If you are okay with this , check out this app. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.RSen.OpenMic.Pheonix It also lets you configure things like only when charging or just when the screen is on to save some battery, and its actually a very nice app overall. Worth checking out.
The Moto x has a special custom chip set that allows for this always listening. Any attempt to port that feature from the Moto x would fail, as the Nexus 5 doesn't have the same chip set. The nexus 5 however, does have hardware that allows for always listening, its part of the Snapdragon 800 SOC that powers this phone, along with the Note 3 and LG G2.
But getting the feature to actually work on our phones, even with the hardware, is by no means an easy task. Read the comments on this post if you want to get an idea for what this entails. https://plus.google.com/112424215551484520138/posts/AznwFxbBapJ
So is it possible? Yes. But it is not something that is gonna be a quick easy port of small modification of an existing app, it would take some real serious work form (maybe a team even of) good Dev's to make this function.
Sorry if its not the news you wanted to hear.

Well now it's been more than a year since this thread is dead but i bought my N5 recently and i wonder is there any progress in this matter will it be possible ? (G+ comments on link provided by above like shows it may be possible...as SD800 has privilege for it but at time of this thread it was only available to OMEs so it made public yet ? ) . did any dev tried to dig into this matter ?

jineshpatel30 said:
Well now it's been more than a year since this thread is dead but i bought my N5 recently and i wonder is there any progress in this matter will it be possible ? (G+ comments on link provided by above like shows it may be possible...as SD800 has privilege for it but at time of this thread it was only available to OMEs so it made public yet ? ) . did any dev tried to dig into this matter ?
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It won't happen on an N5 . ?

Darth said:
It won't happen on an N5 . ?
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that's sad but okay ! what else we can say

If you're plugged in/wireless charging Google Now Voice commands work with the screen off.
Settings>Language & Input > Voice Input> Enhanced Google services> "OK Google" Detection>From any screen> enabled
"responds to your voice. Works when the screen is on or the device is charging."
make sure the next option "personal results" is also enabled if you want Google Now to be able to do anything

Try this app, Open Mic+. It'll do the job.

Does 360 Hibernation Master app work on Marshmallow for Z5??

Does anyone know if this app works on the Z5 using Marshmallow?? Please confirm.
Thanks!

I'll try and give you feedback.but keep in mind my Z5 is not rooted

josephnero said:
I'll try and give you feedback.but keep in mind my Z5 is not rooted
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Joseph,
Thank you for offering. That's fine, as I do not plan to root the Xperia X Performance when I buy it this summer either.
I have a similar thread going for the X Performance, and a guy in that thread already verified that it DOES work on the Z5 running Marshmallow! I'd already tried this app before on my Z3 (I now have the S7, but don't want to keep it, so waiting for X Performance to come out this summer so I can switch my S7 for that). It worked perfectly, but it doesn't work on my S7. But the guy in the other thread CONFIRMED it DOES work on the Z5 with Marshmallow too!
I would highly recommend Joseph that you skim through that thread, and then do yourself the favor of buying the full version of 360. You won't regret it. (But understand this app does not seem to work on Samsung phones for whatever reason. Not sure on others. Just know it does for Sony Xperia.)
Let me know if you do, how it goes, how you like it, and if ANY issues arise from having 360 on your phone.

Sorry for late reply.Was busy.downloading it right now.

josephnero said:
Sorry for late reply.Was busy.downloading it right now.
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No problem. Just remember to enable EVERYTHING in 360, get the full paid version, leave phone on but screen off (and NOT plugged in) overnight, and take note of what percentage the battery is at RIGHT before you go to bed, as well as first thing in the morning. See that thread for any other questions, and if not listed there, ask me here.
Thanks!!

RockStar2005 said:
No problem. Just remember to enable EVERYTHING in 360, get the full paid version, leave phone on but screen off (and NOT plugged in) overnight, and take note of what percentage the battery is at RIGHT before you go to bed, as well as first thing in the morning. See that thread for any other questions, and if not listed there, ask me here.
Thanks!!
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Just bought full version.Also I should note that I had zero to 1% battery loss overnight.The doze mode really works well

josephnero said:
Just bought full version.Also I should note that I had zero to 1% battery loss overnight.The doze mode really works well
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Ok so on the Full version you had 0-1% battery loss overnight? Let me know please. And also how many hours was that?
If so, GREAT!! Yeah even 1% is a lot. lol You were probably like RIGHT on the border of that 1% when you went to bed.
It's not really called "Doze Mode". That's a Marshmallow thing. It's just the 360 app doin' its thing. lol

RockStar2005 said:
Ok so on the Full version you had 0-1% battery loss overnight? Let me know please. And also how many hours was that?
If so, GREAT!! Yeah even 1% is a lot. lol You were probably like RIGHT on the border of that 1% when you went to bed.
It's not really called "Doze Mode". That's a Marshmallow thing. It's just the 360 app doin' its thing. lol
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double checked last night.9 hours of sleep(lol). 1 percent loss.

josephnero said:
double checked last night.9 hours of sleep(lol). 1 percent loss.
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Wow! I've never tested it past 6-7 hours, so NINE hours and ONLY A 1 PERCENT LOSS? That's FANTASTIC!
Thanks again Joseph for testing the 360 app and contributing to this thread! MUCH appreciated!!

RockStar2005 said:
Wow! I've never tested it past 6-7 hours, so NINE hours and ONLY A 1 PERCENT LOSS? That's FANTASTIC!
Thanks again Joseph for testing the 360 app and contributing to this thread! MUCH appreciated!!
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No problem buddy.I oversleep sometimes lol

josephnero said:
No problem buddy.I oversleep sometimes lol
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Don't we all? lol
This may be the ONE time oversleeping equates to a good thing. lol

RockStar2005 said:
Don't we all? lol
This may be the ONE time oversleeping equates to a good thing. lol
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lol yeah.Overall if Xp will be anything like Z5 on battery life and with 820 being a bit more frugal it will have a solid battery life

josephnero said:
lol yeah.Overall if Xp will be anything like Z5 on battery life and with 820 being a bit more frugal it will have a solid battery life
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I agree. I'm COUNTING THE DAYS until X Perf is released. I hate that it's not 'til like June though. Wish it was May or even April. Don't know why Sony put it off so long? The Z5 came out like last Fall. April would be at least 5-6 months since the Z5's release, so that's when it should be coming out, not Summer. Sony needs to just release ONE phone a year and make it in the Spring cuz Spring is an awesome time to buy a new phone. Weather's getting warmer, women are wearin' less clothes, more fun outdoor stuff starts happening, etc! lol

I see this app is newer and has same UI with the one from you, also it has more downloaded and rated. I see your one didn't work on your S7, have you tried mine ever?

RyTekk said:
I see this app is newer and has same UI with the one from you, also it has more downloaded and rated. I see your one didn't work on your S7, have you tried mine ever?
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RyTekk,
No I haven't, but I'll try it tonight and let you know tomorrow.
Yeah it's very similar to 360's UI.
What is the message about the CPU lock not working on non-rooted phones though?

RockStar2005 said:
RyTekk,
No I haven't, but I'll try it tonight and let you know tomorrow.
Yeah it's very similar to 360's UI.
What is the message about the CPU lock not working on non-rooted phones though?
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Of course you need to root before do something on kernel settings (CPU, GPU, IO,...).

RyTekk said:
Of course you need to root before do something on kernel settings (CPU, GPU, IO,...).
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360 has a CPU lock but doesn't require a root. So I dunno.

RyTekk said:
Of course you need to root before do something on kernel settings (CPU, GPU, IO,...).
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360's CPU Hibernation Lock didn't need a root, so maybe we're thinking about something different?
So I tried the Hibernation Manager app last night on my S7. It unfortunately had no impact at all on the battery life (6 hours of sleep). It went down about 3-4%, which is the same it does without any "power saver" help. I will stop by my parents today and try putting it on their phone (Xperia Z1s). Then tomorrow I'll have them check and see if it did anything and get back to you. Hopefully it works on Sony Xperia phones at least.

Unfortunately, 360 Hibernation Master apparently DOES NOT work on the Xperia X series. I have no idea why. Sucks. Tried on my brand new int'l dual-SIM X Performance, and it didn't seem to do anything.
I tried out a couple other apps that were similar but they didn't seem to work either. So I guess for the time being anyway 360 is only for the Xperia Z series phones. FYI
However, Stamina Mode DOES seem to have been properly fixed, so you can still use that.
Note: Just remember that if you use the Visual Voicemail app that after turning off SM you will need to go into VV's settings and re-enable VV cuz it doesn't seem to do it automatically.

Bixby Voice update

Has anyone else gotten it and tried it out?
It's actually pretty great. It's a lot more conversational style than Google assistant. I've used it quite a few times to send texts etc and it dictates very well!!
Haven't tested out the voice unlock, I use fingerprint too much...

Did mine too, been playing with it the past couple hours... Not sure if I'll keep using it, but I'll give it a week and see? I like Google Assistant better, so far, but I like being able to turn on bluetooth and wifi with just saying. But, Bixby won't use my 3rd party music player, email, or SMS (text) app....So, that's useless for me.
Like I said, I'll give it a week and see?? It also depends on the battery usage too.

Oh yeah, didn't think about 3rd party stuff. That sucks.
I like the rewards points for doing stuff with it. Now they're giving points as Samsung pay points

tele_jas said:
Did mine too, been playing with it the past couple hours... Not sure if I'll keep using it, but I'll give it a week and see? I like Google Assistant better, so far, but I like being able to turn on bluetooth and wifi with just saying. But, Bixby won't use my 3rd party music player, email, or SMS (text) app....So, that's useless for me.
Like I said, I'll give it a week and see?? It also depends on the battery usage too.
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Google Assistant turns on/off Bluetooth and WiFi also.
Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

The fact that Bixby responds even when the screen is off is a big +

tlopez1973 said:
The fact that Bixby responds even when the screen is off is a big +
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Have you noticed a big battery drain using Bixby?

tele_jas said:
Have you noticed a big battery drain using Bixby?
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Not really since I have all bloatware disabled

When did it come out for AT&T S8??

tailgunner9 said:
When did it come out for AT&T S8??
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Earlier this week, maybe Tuesday or Wednesday?

working always on edge lightning for 10

Plus beat was not updated since June, and it's not working on Android 10. Which other app works? Thx

peteus said:
Plus beat was not updated since June, and it's not working on Android 10. Which other app works? Thx
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I have been using this for several weeks on 10 and I think it works great. It is a little confusing on the setup, but not too bad.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.used.aoe

jaseman said:
I have been using this for several weeks on 10 and I think it works great. It is a little confusing on the setup, but not too bad.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.used.aoe
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How you finding the battery drain? I've heard some say it's fine and others say that it's a hog.

hallo dare said:
How you finding the battery drain? I've heard some say it's fine and others say that it's a hog.
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No battery drain at all! Now if you left your phone with the edge lighting going for a "long" time....not sure. But as it is I have no battery drain at all from this app.

jaseman said:
No battery drain at all! Now if you left your phone with the edge lighting going for a "long" time....not sure. But as it is I have no battery drain at all from this app.
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Good stuff. Does Google assistant work when you say "ok google"? It's a problem with a lot of apks like NotifyBuddy etc, so looking for an alternative.

hallo dare said:
Good stuff. Does Google assistant work when you say "ok google"? It's a problem with a lot of apks like NotifyBuddy etc, so looking for an alternative.
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Sorry but I don't ever talk to my phone...seems silly to me... unless I am driving and "need" to reply to a text, then Textra with Gboard does it for me.

jaseman said:
Sorry but I don't ever talk to my phone...seems silly to me... unless I am driving and "need" to reply to a text, then Textra with Gboard does it for me.
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Fair enough. I find it extremely handy when on the go.

jaseman said:
I have been using this for several weeks on 10 and I think it works great. It is a little confusing on the setup, but not too bad.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.used.aoe
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Edit: Resolved - For over 10 years, I have been using the BACK button to close activities. All of them. When I want to return to the launcher, I just press BACK from withing the given app until I get 'back' to the launcher. Why wouldn't I do this? It's how you close an app. Well, I hit the HOME button instead of using BACK to exit the app gracefully like I do for all other apps I run.. and.. AOE works. I don't get it. I'm not much of an Android developer, and I hate everything Google has done to Android in the last 5 years, but what gives here? I assume (and I can see) that the backgroud service still runs after the activity closes, so why would I want to leave the activity open and return to the launcher without gracefully closing the current activity? Anyway.. if I leave the activity open, it seems to work as expected, but not if I close the activity. Go figure.
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I am using Resurrection Remix 8.6.7 on OnePlus 7 Pro. I've tried Plus Beat, True Edge, and now Always On Edge. I can't get any of them to work. Plus Beat came the closest by repeatedly flashing the lock screen, but I really want to use AOE and I would like to see the edge 'horizon' lights. I've given AOE every permission and accessibility service I know how to, and it still does not work.
Is it possible to use AOE on One Plus 7 Pro with Resurrection Remix 8.6.7 (Android Q10 based, and goes on top of OOS 10.3.8)?

How to make Edge lighting work with screen off?

It used to work before i reset my phone. My edge lighting works with screen off but when my aod is on it doesn't work, it use to work i dont know whats going on but that kind of kills half the purpose of edge lighting in my opinion plus it looks best whens screens off any one know a fix??

KURDKiNG said:
It used to work before i reset my phone. My edge lighting works with screen off but when my aod is on it doesn't work, it use to work i dont know whats going on but that kind of kills half the purpose of edge lighting in my opinion plus it looks best whens screens off any one know a fix??
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In for answers....I haven't done anything different to my phone but all of a sudden one day the edge lighting just stopped working ? hasn't worked for a few weeks for me now.

KURDKiNG said:
It used to work before i reset my phone. My edge lighting works with screen off but when my aod is on it doesn't work, it use to work i dont know whats going on but that kind of kills half the purpose of edge lighting in my opinion plus it looks best whens screens off any one know a fix??
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This works great.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.used.aoe

seczdbz said:
In for answers....I haven't done anything different to my phone but all of a sudden one day the edge lighting just stopped working hasn't worked for a few weeks for me now.
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Could be one of the adaptive battery settings; known troublemakers. This feature though has eluded me for over a year on the 10+ And not a clue why even after spending a bunch of time playing with it
airmaxx23 said:
This works great.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.used.aoe
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I tried that apk on the 10+ running on Pie, no joy and that apk itself was a real bloody pain.... grrrrr.
For whatever reason(s) edge lighting has never worked. I could try playing with it again... last couple times were a waste of time.
Probably a apk conflict or settings issue but I never found it... meh.
OP, Thanks for reminding me of this gremlin
Hope you find a solution here as it may backwards applicable.

blackhawk said:
Could be one of the adaptive battery settings; known troublemakers. This feature though has eluded me for over a year on the 10+ And not a clue why even after spending a bunch of time playing with it
I tried that apk on the 10+ running on Pie, no joy and that apk itself was a real bloody pain.... grrrrr.
For whatever reason(s) edge lighting has never worked. I could try playing with it again... last couple times were a waste of time.
Probably a apk conflict or settings issue but I never found it... meh.
OP, Thanks for reminding me of this gremlin
Hope you find a solution here as it may backwards applicable.
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That function edge lighting was a mess since my note 9 days. Seems like not much has changed.

Limeybastard said:
That function edge lighting was a mess since my note 9 days. Seems like not much has changed.
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Lol, that's reassuring. A long history of fail.
I just looked over my settings and it should be active.
Damned if I see it anymore (it works for a couple days once, long, long ago).
I reset it to factory load, the only possible option left; no power management is active.
I'll double check my blocked apks just for amusement.
Guess I'll wait and see if this takes:laugh:

blackhawk said:
Lol, that's reassuring. A long history of fail.
I just looked over my settings and it should be active.
Damned if I see it anymore (it works for a couple days once, long, long ago).
I reset it to factory load, the only possible option left; no power management is active.
I'll double check my blocked apks just for amusement.
Guess I'll wait and see if this takes:laugh:
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That function has always been a major fail. So much so that I have it off ( phone wise ) .
Opposite of the OOS 11 , the horizon light works everytime for notifications

Limeybastard said:
That function has always been a major fail. So much so that I have it off ( phone wise ) .
Opposite of the OOS 11 , the horizon light works everytime for notifications
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Bah-ha-ha-ha... it never uses any battery (yes, well) so I completely forgot it was enabled.
Guess it could be one of the mystery apks under Android Services sucking battery though.
Thanks for reminding to pull it's plug!

blackhawk said:
Bah-ha-ha-ha... it never uses any battery (yes, well) so I completely forgot it was enabled.
Guess it could be one of the mystery apks under Android Services sucking battery though.
Thanks for reminding to pull it's plug!
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Major culling via adb or ccsw is a must when buying into one ui ecosystem.

Limeybastard said:
Major culling via adb or ccsw is a must when buying into one ui ecosystem.
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Zippo raid it be for sure.
I have something like 86 blocked apks now. All but 6 or so of those are never needed. Lol, less run time, less trouble.
Sometimes with new apps I'll block them until I sort them out or throw them out.

Limeybastard said:
That function edge lighting was a mess since my note 9 days. Seems like not much has changed.
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I remember them breaking it with one of the major S9 updates, I think Oreo? It worked fine for me before that, never since
Seems to work with OneUI 3.0 beta now

*Detection* said:
I remember them breaking it with one of the major S9 updates, I think Oreo? It worked fine for me before that, never since
Seems to work with OneUI 3.0 beta now
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Probably stop working after final release

Limeybastard said:
Probably stop working after final release
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haha yea probably

Limeybastard said:
Probably stop working after final release
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haha yea probably
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As usual.
They like to finish off an OS (and phone) at the end. The lame duck phenomenon