Pro 12.2 with multitask button? - Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

cause it seems like they changed it and wondered if it would change a lot. i assume they are going to have to put the menu option in the apps which is not as convenient

Yeah I never understood the reasoning behind this. How often do I hit the menu key? How often do I need the Multitask key? I'd say menu is alot more important at least for my use.

clouds5 said:
Yeah I never understood the reasoning behind this. How often do I hit the menu key? How often do I need the Multitask key? I'd say menu is alot more important at least for my use.
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Kitkat forces the overflow menu button by default, rendering a menu button almost useless.
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clouds5 said:
Yeah I never understood the reasoning behind this. How often do I hit the menu key? How often do I need the Multitask key? I'd say menu is alot more important at least for my use.
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The thing is, the menu key is inconsistent. Some apps use it, some dont, and it has different purposes in each app. The multitasking key is a system function, always the same therefore reliable and less confusing for users. Also, another major issue is you wouldn't believe how many casual users have no idea that long press goes to the switcher. This encourages people to use their phone more efficiently.
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This is being discussed in both 4.4 update threads and now there are two threads dedicated to the re-purposed capacitive button.
This is what it does (repeated from another thread)...
Thunn said:
The 10.1's left capacitive touch button is different.
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Very.
The one big surprise in the hardware department is that Samsung is dumping the menu button and replacing it with a "Recent Apps" button, finally following the recommended button layout Google introduced three years ago. The removal of the menu button means the top-right action bar overflow menus will now properly appear in all apps, no longer hiding important options from users. Samsung loves to have unity across their devices, so we expect this to be the new button layout going forward.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014...-and-tabpro-new-screen-sizes-and-magazine-ui/​
So in order to offer the same functionality as the Pro's and Note 12 either Samsung changes the button on new-build N10.1-14's or keeps the button the way it is graphically and it performs the new function as described above. A disaster scenario would be because of the stupid button and wanting uniformity across devices Samsung decides not give the N10.1-14 the new UI. It's hard to believe that Samsung would throw purchasers of their heretofore most expensive tablet that's less than three months old under the bus like that but it's certainly something Samsung's going to have to make some decisions about.​
Samsung has two choices with older devices that have the "menu" graphic rather than the newer "apps" graphic introduced for the first time on the four newly announced tablets.
They can:
Be purists and leave newer devices without the proper graphic (SGS4, N3, N10.1-14) on the older UI but update the OS to 4.4.
Ignore the mislabeled graphic and treat older devices the same as newer devices and update them to 4.4/Magazine UX.
And there's no point arguing which direction Samsung will go as either is possible and no one here (including me) knows what Samsung's thinking. I do think something's up in that when talking about their 2014 premium tablet line there's not been one mention of the N10.1-14 and how it fits in their product strategy. If it was going to carry on as the "Note 10.1 2014 Edition" and receive 4.4/Magazine UX you'd think they would have said something. In PR/Marketing what's not said is sometimes more telling than what is.

BarryH_GEG said:
Samsung has two choices with older devices that have the "menu" graphic rather than the newer "apps" graphic introduced for the first time on the four newly announced tablets.
They can:
Be purists and leave newer devices without the proper graphic (SGS4, N3, N10.1-14) on the older UI but update the OS to 4.4.
Ignore the mislabeled graphic and treat older devices the same as newer devices and update them to 4.4/Magazine UX.
And there's no point arguing which direction Samsung will go as either is possible and no one here (including me) knows what Samsung's thinking. I do think something's up in that when talking about their 2014 premium tablet line there's not been one mention of the N10.1-14 and how it fits in their product strategy. If it was going to carry on as the "Note 10.1 2014 Edition" and receive 4.4/Magazine UX you'd think they would have said something. In PR/Marketing what's not said is sometimes more telling than what is.
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Samsung has a third choice... if they want to be AXXXXXXS about it...
They can actually ignore all older devices and just stop their software updates.
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This is a weird one. The GSM Arena hands on video (posted yesterday 6th Feb) shows the Note Pro 12.2 with a menu button and not multitasking.
It also has the old style notification tab.
The other unboxing video on youtube has the Multitasking button and the newer looking notification pull down.
Are the wifi and LTE variants different?

rkial said:
This is a weird one. The GSM Arena hands on video (posted yesterday 6th Feb) shows the Note Pro 12.2 with a menu button and not multitasking.
It also has the old style notification tab.
The other unboxing video on youtube has the Multitasking button and the newer looking notification pull down.
Are the wifi and LTE variants different?
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Also wondering why I dont see Magazine UX in the video.

nymviper1126 said:
Also wondering why I dont see Magazine UX in the video.
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And also a green battery icon in the statusbar. Shouldn't it be white?
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GSMArena's full review is out.. It has the menu button and not the App switcher in the model they reviewed.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_pro_12_2-review-1041p3.php
That means landscape is the default orientation and the hardware keys are placed along one of the long sides.
Those are the old Menu, Home, Back keys, even though Samsung is already moving to App Switcher, Home, Back on some of its recent devices.
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But the promotional photo they have on the first page of the review shows the tablet with the app switcher and not the menu button.
http://cdn.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsimg/samsung-galaxy-note-pro-12-2/review/offic/gsmarena_001.jpg
Wonder if they got a pre production model for review

I've tried a demo model before. LTE variant in my country (Singapore)
There is a menu button, but it toggles recent apps instead of what you expect from it being a menu button.
It was an internal demo set though...things may change.
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I just picked up the wifi model from best buy (us) and it has the app switcher button.

Jayception said:
I just picked up the wifi model from best buy (us) and it has the app switcher button.
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Does it have Magazine UX? Im going to get mine after work, cant wait to be shipped I need it this weekend, will have to pay cash then order online credit and return after i get it.
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Jayception said:
I just picked up the wifi model from best buy (us) and it has the app switcher button.
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Best buy website just switched over and said "coming soon". How many did they have in store?

nymviper1126 said:
Does it have Magazine UX? Im going to get mine after work, cant wait to be shipped I need it this weekend, will have to pay cash then order online credit and return after i get it.
Yes it does have the Magazine UX.
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Best buy website just switched over and said "coming soon". How many did they have in store?
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I had pre-ordered mine inside of the best buy store a week ago and they told me that there were about a dozen left in their store when i went in to pick it up.
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Jayception said:
I had pre-ordered mine inside of the best buy store a week ago and they told me that there were about a dozen left in their store when i went in to pick it up.
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Yea I just called, they have 13 left. Must be some sick joke! other large electronics store ran out and wont have till 18th!
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Jayception said:
I had pre-ordered mine inside of the best buy store a week ago and they told me that there were about a dozen left in their store when i went in to pick it up.
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Does it have Mag UX?

nymviper1126 said:
Does it have Mag UX?
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Yes it does and it's pretty nice!
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Jayception said:
Yes it does and it's pretty nice!
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Just got mine! Its awesome! Very big. The N10.1 looks tiny.

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Home app launcher

I really like apex launcher on my gs3 and equally so on my 8. But even though I set it as the default launcher Samsung seems to override at will. Is there something I'm missing?
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I use Nova. It's my favorite and works well on the Note 8. I think I read theres a bug in Apex, and thats why it doesnt work on the Note 8, but I'm not sure I remember that correctly
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Do you still have split screen, the instant note when touching the screen with a pen, screen capture, etc when using Nova Launcher?
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kisrita said:
I use Nova. It's my favorite and works well on the Note 8. I think I read theres a bug in Apex, and thats why it doesnt work on the Note 8, but I'm not sure I remember that correctly
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Do you still have split screen, the instant note when touching the screen with a pen, screen capture, etc when using Nova Launcher?
xd2009 said:
Do you still have split screen, the instant note when touching the screen with a pen, screen capture, etc when using Nova Launcher?
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Yes to all the above. The only thing I've noticed that's lost is the S Planner month view widget. The S Planner app still works, I just couldn't get the big month view widget on the screen with Nova. So I bought aCalendar instead, which has a month view widget...
PS: For instant note to work, you have to hold the pen button while you touch the screen twice. (In my case, touching the screen twice is set to bring up recent apps, touching it twice while holding the pen button brings up the note. I'm not sure if there's a setting I changed somewhere to do that...)
kisrita said:
Yes to all the above. The only thing I've noticed that's lost is the S Planner month view widget. The S Planner app still works, I just couldn't get the big month view widget on the screen with Nova. So I bought aCalendar instead, which has a month view widget...
PS: For instant note to work, you have to hold the pen button while you touch the screen twice. (In my case, touching the screen twice is set to bring up recent apps, touching it twice while holding the pen button brings up the note. I'm not sure if there's a setting I changed somewhere to do that...)
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That's great news. I really like NOVA launcher and I am happy I'll be able to keep using it. Another question, are the 9 GB of available memory enough? I'm struggling with the question about whether or not I should purchase the 16 GB one or wait until the 32 GB becomes available in the US.
xd2009 said:
That's great news. I really like NOVA launcher and I am happy I'll be able to keep using it. Another question, are the 9 GB of available memory enough? I'm struggling with the question about whether or not I should purchase the 16 GB one or wait until the 32 GB becomes available in the US.
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Unless I'm mistaken there hasn't been an announcement regarding a release date for a 32GB version in US, or even that it will be available.
Get the 16gb version, buy a 32gb sd card for <$30. I would assume that would be much cheaper than paying whatever the upgrade cost is to have that additional memory built in. Plus, you can start playing with it now.
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xd2009 said:
Do you still have split screen, the instant note when touching the screen with a pen, screen capture, etc when using Nova Launcher?
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I know you're talking about Nova, but I've been using Apex Launcher, and all these features work.
The only thing I've really noticed that only shows up in TouchWiz Home is the S Planner widget(s)... weird, cause the S Planner ones still work in alternate launchers. Other than that, everything else seems to be intact, but maybe I missed something.
What other apps/widgets/features are specific to this launcher?
xd2009 said:
That's great news. I really like NOVA launcher and I am happy I'll be able to keep using it. Another question, are the 9 GB of available memory enough? I'm struggling with the question about whether or not I should purchase the 16 GB one or wait until the 32 GB becomes available in the US.
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I think that depends on how many apps you need installed and whether or not you plan on installing large games. I still have over 6 GB free but I'm not a gamer. My first Android device had 32 gb but I always had over 20 gb free, so I've only bought 16gb devices ever since. The only time I've ever had to delete an app to free up space was on my iPad. Maybe ios apps are bigger? You can't put apps on the sd card out of the box, and I'm not sure what you have to do to allow moving apps to the sd card, so maybe you want to look into that before you decide to spend extra for more space you might not need.
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kisrita said:
I think that depends on how many apps you need installed and whether or not you plan on installing large games. I still have over 6 GB free but I'm not a gamer. My first Android device had 32 gb but I always had over 20 gb free, so I've only bought 16gb devices ever since.
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Thanks for this info! I've been wondering about all that and how different usage patterns would affect things. If there is an easy way to do so would you mind posting a list of the apps you have installed?
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You can't put apps on the sd card out of the box, and I'm not sure what you have to do to allow moving apps to the sd card, so maybe you want to look into that before you decide to spend extra for more space you might not need.
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Relevant threads (both methods require rooting your device):
howto: mount external sdcard as sdcrard0
Use SD-Card as main storage?
kisrita said:
I think that depends on how many apps you need installed and whether or not you plan on installing large games. I still have over 6 GB free but I'm not a gamer. My first Android device had 32 gb but I always had over 20 gb free, so I've only bought 16gb devices ever since. The only time I've ever had to delete an app to free up space was on my iPad. Maybe ios apps are bigger? You can't put apps on the sd card out of the box, and I'm not sure what you have to do to allow moving apps to the sd card, so maybe you want to look into that before you decide to spend extra for more space you might not need.
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I'm impressed that you only used 3GB. I usually use more than this. I have 9GB used in my Nexus 7 and almost twice as much on my Droid Razr Maxx. I do believe I would not need to install so many 3rd party apps on the Note since it's already heavily customized. I might give it a try to see if I can survive with only 9 GB.
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elmwood said:
Unless I'm mistaken there hasn't been an announcement regarding a release date for a 32GB version in US, or even that it will be available.
Get the 16gb version, buy a 32gb sd card for <$30. I would assume that would be much cheaper than paying whatever the upgrade cost is to have that additional memory built in. Plus, you can start playing with it now.
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I know you're talking about Nova, but I've been using Apex Launcher, and all these features work.
The only thing I've really noticed that only shows up in TouchWiz Home is the S Planner widget(s)... weird, cause the S Planner ones still work in alternate launchers. Other than that, everything else seems to be intact, but maybe I missed something.
What other apps/widgets/features are specific to this launcher?
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I have only heard of 32 GB in Europe or India. I had hopes of a 32 GB being released in the US because the Note 10 has a 32 GB version. I believe that no other Samsung device has more than 16 GB in the US.
I might give it a try now that it's available at Sam's Club.
pluginalong said:
Thanks for this info! I've been wondering about all that and how different usage patterns would affect things. If there is an easy way to do so would you mind posting a list of the apps you have]
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If this works, the link should be to screen shots of all my apps on my Note 8. It is a short list, I had twice as many apps on my GNex until I cleaned it out recently, but this is pretty much all I need. I found that even my two year old single core tablet is still usable as long as I don't put a lot of apps on it. I also found on my GNex and Nexus 7 a horrible slow down when less than a specific amount of free space was available, so I now make sure I always have at least 2gb free.
Thanks for the sd card tips, I will check it out later.
Edit: deleted link. Picasa appears to link to Google plus now. I will post from another site tomorrow.
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xd2009 said:
I believe that no other Samsung device has more than 16 GB in the US. I might give it a try now that it's available at Sam's Club.
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So is your guess that it could go either way with the Note 8 then? i.e., there could be a 32GB forthcoming since there is one for the Note 10.1, or there might not because your understanding is no other Samsung has more than 16GB?
Also, how much is it selling for at Sam's Club? I couldn't easily tell from the website (I'm not currently a member). $400 is the price I see everywhere here in the US.
kisrita said:
If this works, the link should be to screen shots of all my apps on my Note 8. It is a short list, I had twice as many apps on my GNex until I cleaned it out recently, but this is pretty much all I need. ... I also found on my GNex and Nexus 7 a horrible slow down when less than a specific amount of free space was available, so I now make sure I always have at least 2gb free.
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Thanks for trying and for the tips! And yeah I'll be interested to see the list whenever you can get to it (no rush!).
Regarding default home launcher:
I had this issue with Action Launcher and it was resolved by dev...only thing is theres a bug in the play store with JB4.1.2 that showed up then which is probably what you're getting now. It has been resolved with 4.2 so it'll be flakey until Samsung pushes that out. The workaround atm is to use a root app to make your launcher a system app not user and that'll override until 4.2 comes our way.
HTH
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pluginalong said:
So is your guess that it could go either way with the Note 8 then? i.e., there could be a 32GB forthcoming since there is one for the Note 10.1, or there might not because your understanding is no other Samsung has more than 16GB?
Also, how much is it selling for at Sam's Club? I couldn't easily tell from the website (I'm not currently a member). $400 is the price I see everywhere here in the US.
Thanks for trying and for the tips! And yeah I'll be interested to see the list whenever you can get to it (no rush!).
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You are right, I don't know which way it goes. Samsung usually releases a basic device and later releases either a 3G enabled or a different color, who knows? The Note at Sam's Club is $380. The biggest points for me are: an affordable protection plan and a longer (an actual hassle free) returning time. I figure I'll try the Note 8 as is and see whether or not I need the extra storage space for apps. I know of apps to install stuff to SD card but one needs to root the tablet. I've never rooted any phone or tablet and don't want to purchase something if rooting will be needed.
pluginalong said:
So is your guess that it could go either way with the Note 8 then? i.e., there could be a 32GB forthcoming since there is one for the Note 10.1, or there might not because your understanding is no other Samsung has more than 16GB?
Also, how much is it selling for at Sam's Club? I couldn't easily tell from the website (I'm not currently a member). $400 is the price I see everywhere here in the US.
Thanks for trying and for the tips! And yeah I'll be interested to see the list whenever you can get to it (no rush!).
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Ok - let's try these links... should be a screen shot of each of my app pages. The link on the bottom may go to the location all of them are shown. I haven't tried this before so I don't know how well this will work:
Possible link to all of them? http://postimg.org/gallery/6qd44eza/2765721e/
xd2009 said:
You are right, I don't know which way it goes. Samsung usually releases a basic device and later releases either a 3G enabled or a different color, who knows? The Note at Sam's Club is $380. The biggest points for me are: an affordable protection plan and a longer (an actual hassle free) returning time.
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That is a nice price (though of course sales tax will eat up some of the savings), and even better that you get the other benefits you mentioned!
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I know of apps to install stuff to SD card but one needs to root the tablet. I've never rooted any phone or tablet and don't want to purchase something if rooting will be needed.
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Yeah, I feel similarly about not wanting to mess with rooting.
kisrita said:
Ok - let's try these links... should be a screen shot of each of my app pages.
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That worked fantastic! Thanks for sharing!
h20rat said:
Regarding default home launcher:
I had this issue with Action Launcher and it was resolved by dev...only thing is theres a bug in the play store with JB4.1.2 that showed up then which is probably what you're getting now. It has been resolved with 4.2 so it'll be flakey until Samsung pushes that out. The workaround atm is to use a root app to make your launcher a system app not user and that'll override until 4.2 comes our way.
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That's what I found too. Additionally, tt seems to have impact on paid apps only. I am using Smart Launcher. The free version works perfectly, paid version not. Although there is a "patch app" for Smart Launcher to fix this issue, it simply does not work on Galaxy Note 8.0. While at the same time works perfectly on Galaxy Note 2...... strange...
If you've rooted your rom, just delete the touch wiz apk from /system/app
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What about Go Launcher?
Have you tried Go Launcher on Note 8? I'm planning on buying this tablet in the near future, and Go Launcher is the best one I've tried on my SGS2.

Tab 3 8 Kit Kat. What's new?

I just got the kit kat update for Tab 3 8. I live in LA California. Wifi only and I had to force it using the check for updates option. So I can list a few differences I'm noticing. I'm pretty sure all this stuff is new but some of it might be stuff I missed with 4.2.2.
Transparent notification bar.
New multiwindow experience. Now it does not have that little tab hanging over the side. Now you swipe it in from the side. I haven't played with it, I still find it unusable.
You can customise the toggle ribbon more now. You still have to have tons of icons but you can pick the order and take a few out.
The lock screen has a now playing type widget that looks nice.
On-screen keyboard toogle for bluetooth keyboards. I actually am trying to write a screenplay on this tablet and I had to buy a stupid app to fix the stupid keyboard the stupid way it worked be stupid fore and now it works better and I bought a stupid app for stupid nothing. But I'm glad it works better now.
That's all I've noticed so far. I also don't use touchwiz, I use nova.
Tell me what you guys are noticing or if you find an official list of changes let me know. Thanks everybody
- Matt
Jacksonville, FL here and no update available yet.
Cosmetically it's hard to notice the difference on the firmware, but under the hood there are some serious changes to the firmware, but all for the better.
The "Transparent Notification bar" was there on JB 4.2.2,
And "Multiple windows" is very functional now.
● TouchWiz is lighter and smooth now...
(I'm so happy with it's performance now, to the point I didn't bothered to install the Google Now Launcher yet...)
● Third-party apps can't write to External SD card anymore...
(There is a way if you root the device)
● Some extra new Wi-Fi settings.
● The keyboard is improved and the "Picture gallery" and other factory apps also received some TLC for the better.
But for me, the "Multiple User capability" is definitely th e Icing on the cake.
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I wish samsung would have given us the new touchwiz. but of course they won't..
NJ_RAMS_FAN said:
I wish samsung would have given us the new touchwiz. but of course they won't..
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[emoji25] One year old device and already considered 2nd class and outdated by the manufacturer...
This is likely the first and the last update this device will see from Samsung.
I like Samsung devices, but I finally lost interest in buying any Samsung devices in the future.
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Smokey Mc Pot said:
[emoji25] One year old device and already considered 2nd class and outdated by the manufacturer...
This is likely the first and the last update this device will see from Samsung.
I like Samsung devices, but I finally lost interest in buying any Samsung devices in the future.
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you and me bro.. look at my sig.. tons of samsung product.. but no more!!! unless its super cheap, i wont another one..
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you and me bro.. look at my sig.. tons of samsung product.. but no more!!! unless its super cheap, i wont another one..
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Head on over to the Apple forum. They update their clunkers ...well basically forever. ..LOL.
DigitalMD said:
Head on over to the Apple forum. They update their clunkers ...well basically forever. ..LOL.
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[emoji57] Is that comment meant to be an attempt in sarcasm ?
[emoji23] It come out just plain silly instead!
Please do not attempt a career as a comedian,
[emoji39]You will fail miserably!!!
There is more to Android than just Samsung devices!!!
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"OK Google Everywhere" works like a dream on the Tab 3
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auto brightness sucks.
I was hoping the autobrightness would get fixed. For me it's always way too dim. Where is the light sensor?
PCycle said:
I just got the kit kat update for Tab 3 8. I live in LA California. Wifi only and I had to force it using the check for updates option. So I can list a few differences I'm noticing. I'm pretty sure all this stuff is new but some of it might be stuff I missed with 4.2.2.
Transparent notification bar.
New multiwindow experience. Now it does not have that little tab hanging over the side. Now you swipe it in from the side. I haven't played with it, I still find it unusable.
You can customise the toggle ribbon more now. You still have to have tons of icons but you can pick the order and take a few out.
The lock screen has a now playing type widget that looks nice.
On-screen keyboard toogle for bluetooth keyboards. I actually am trying to write a screenplay on this tablet and I had to buy a stupid app to fix the stupid keyboard the stupid way it worked be stupid fore and now it works better and I bought a stupid app for stupid nothing. But I'm glad it works better now.
That's all I've noticed so far. I also don't use touchwiz, I use nova.
Tell me what you guys are noticing or if you find an official list of changes let me know. Thanks everybody
- Matt
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PCycle said:
I was hoping the autobrightness would get fixed. For me it's always way too dim. Where is the light sensor?
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Autobrightness is horrible on the Tab3, it's fine on my S5 as well as previous S2 and other Android devices I've used. But the Tab3 Sucks, I'm always taking it off auto especially durring the day, dim as hell lol

Android L Update Discussion

So far it looks like we have only 54 days left until the end of HTC's promise window and according to HTC's website our device is in the 3rd of 5 stages of development, the 5th being release.
Has anyone heard anything that would indicate a time frame sooner than the 1st of February?
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And then we wait for the carriers to pass all their inspections.. So I'm thinking the carrier will have the build within the 90 but how long do they test and hold it until release? Hopefully HTC gets it to the carriers by the end of this month so we can have a release by Feb
I'm excited to try out lollipop with sense on top but I will say I'm pretty satisfied with GPE lollipop builds now and very happy to have it so early and running great.
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What does anyone think of the leaked images over on Phandroid of the OS in action?
I wish they would change the lockscreen to something more AOSP-like, but I suppose its not as horrible as it could be.
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What does anyone think of the leaked images over on Phandroid of the OS in action?
I wish they would change the lockscreen to something more AOSP-like, but I suppose its not as horrible as it could be.
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I wish they'd keep more of the material Google look. It looks like more of the same from Android 4.4 to be honest.
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I wish they'd keep more of the material Google look. It looks like more of the same from Android 4.4 to be honest.
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Hey, at least it's not that crap Samsung is pushing. Completely ruined the best looking Android yet.
The card-based app switcher is objectively worse than the old 3x3 grid, where you could see everything at a glance without any scrolling, know exactly where to tap (even before the thumbnails appeared), and it would require only a single tap to switch to/close any window or close all apps.
Thumbnails in a vertical/horizontal stack is similarly terrible.
What happened to efficient design?
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The card-based app switcher is objectively worse than the old 3x3 grid, where you could see everything at a glance without any scrolling, know exactly where to tap (even before the thumbnails appeared), and it would require only a single tap to switch to/close any window or close all apps.
Thumbnails in a vertical/horizontal stack is similarly terrible.
What happened to efficient design?
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It is odd, but I think I could do with the current format as long as they included a close all button somewhere in that screen. It just that when I think about it I tend not to go back more than 4 apps in my history when switching, and more often just go to close all recent apps.
We don't really need a close all button. You can already close them all at once by opening the recents pinching 2 fingers together on the screen. Simple.
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We don't really need a close all button. You can already close them all at once by opening the recents pinching 2 fingers together on the screen. Simple.
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But that's not a really intuitive gesture when working with a stack of cards.
I'm shocked there doesn't seem to me more discussion of this. I've seen some leaked picrures and descriptions of new features/layout recently. Looks good! I'm hoping January is the month we get it.
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I'm shocked there doesn't seem to me more discussion of this. I've seen some leaked picrures and descriptions of new features/layout recently. Looks good! I'm hoping January is the month we get it.
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Android 5.0 Lollipop Update: HTC One M8 And M7 May Receive New Software On Jan. 3
robocuff said:
We don't really need a close all button. You can already close them all at once by opening the recents pinching 2 fingers together on the screen. Simple.
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That doesn't work in Digitalhigh's latest GPE, or I've misunderstood you. But I've tried dragging two fingers toward the center from top and bottom and left and right with the recent apps open, and I've tried swiping up on Recent while swiping down from the top. Several times. Nothing happens. But, DH has implemented a close all button, so maybe he disabled the gesture you describe.
Personally, I'm a fan of the windshield wiper method. Open recents, and swing your thumb back and forth on the screen, horizontally. Like a windshield wiper. It's fun in a Fruit Ninja kind of way. Not really, but I tell myself it is.
As for HTC's 90-day guarantee, I'm expecting end of February. I bet they'll have it out for the international users by the end of January, and then pass the buck to Verizon and Sprint to get it done in a month. They never specified who would get the update, just that they would get it out. International users don't have to worry about carrier BS, so I'm thinking maybe the 90-day promise just applies to them.
But hey, I'm running Lollipop now and it's stock Android, and I couldn't be happier with this phone. But if Google continues making Nexus phones available here in the US (and by that I mean operable on national American carriers), I might just go that route. I just hope the 2016 Nexus 8, the new phone presumably coming out this year (leaving alone speculation as to what they call next year's), isn't 8" across. Give it a saner 4.7" diagonal measurement, and an 8MP camera on the front, hence the name.
Maybe a good sign.

[Q] What else are we missing?

As more of us get our phones today's, ive noticed little things missing
I cant seem to find simple sharing (I looked in the gallery)
Where is the Samsung stock internet browser? (isn't it needed to use finger print to log in to sites)
I didn't see onedrive installed., don't we receive 100 gigs?
the touch buttons (cant be turned off or put on timer) -.-
What else you notice?
I too noticed the samsung browser missing. I even looked in the samsung store to see if we could download it , no dice.
Verizon has thoroughly gimped the Samsung Galaxy S6
Looking through one of the nicest devices I've ever owned, trying to find all of the features that I've been reading about everywhere on the internet, when the realization slowly dawns on me: Verizon has removed many of the features of Samsung's software suite that made it worth using in the first place. Gone is the Samsung Store. I can't actually find it anywhere, which is really rather odd (hopefully Samsung will sneak it in during the night when nobody is looking...) Gone also is the ability to link Samsung's native music player to a variety of cloud services, instead you are locked into Verizon's rather poor attempt at cloud storage (meaning no playing music straight off your Drive from within the stock Music app, and you can forget about playing from Onedrive through it too.) Speaking of Onedrive, it didn't come preinstalled. That was one giant read warning light, followed by confirmation buzzers when I installed it and then scoured through all of the settings looking for the button to press to get my free 100GB of online storage. It would appear that this option simply doesn't exist for us. Funny. I forgot to laugh. Another thing that I found to be fairly odd: battery life. It isn't terrible, not really, but the device ran warm and got absolutely terrible reception for a few hours after activation. I'm going to have to keep an eye on it after it's had its drink from the mains to make sure that it was merely a fluke.
Has anyone else noticed anything that Verizon appears to have nixed on their Galaxy S6 that I've missed?
they answered a lot of the reasons i would root and mainly i finally get to add more columns and rows THANK GOODNESS
but i can not seem to figure out how to switch back and forth to my Bluetooth stereo or headset when on a call there was a bluetooth button that appears to be gone and i have to hit speaker button to get off BT
samsung account
The Galaxy store will show up when you log into your Samsung account and install some updates. Still I've yet to find our 100 gb's of One Drive or the stock browser.
I'm most frustrated by Simple Sharing and capacitive settings missing. Most of the other stuff I don't really care about.
Hopefully we'll get root, and then be able to flash ROMs with these options baked in
Overall I'm very happy with my S6 though. These are mainly just minor grievances
I was going to get mine today because Verizon I 100$ less than the rest and then use it on t Mobile. Us it not worth it? Should I pay the extra 80 or so for a t Mobile or unlocked variant? Or are you guys alright with what you have?
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Sprint version is only 48$ more so would you all recommend I grab that instead and just have it unlocked?
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Also is the 100 gigs of one drive unlimited or for a limited time?
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I really don't understand the point of removing the stock browser. I understand verizon or any provider throwing on their services even if i have no use, but why and what gives them the right to change the fundamentals of a product.
I can't use google music right now because I have to many devices authorized but when i go to de-authorize it says I can't. A call to google and they have to have a specialist get back to me as they are not in there office now. I get not wanting more then a given number of devices authorization but what do they care what device i de-authorize. Make it so once de-authorized i can't authorize the same device without jumping through hoops. This is not how I pictured this all going down while I was waiting for this phone. Like the phone and how speedy it is, but these problems plus what seems like not to good of battery life are making me rethink.
Where is the task manager?
Is the favorites widget for contactz missing or am I missing it?
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If someone made a lot if another variant like t Mobile or something we'll get all these features right? That's how it was on my Verizon g2. Cloudyfa was a dev who made a international variant rom for all devices so we had all the lg features. If this happens then the Verizon version Wil pretty much be the best since we can use it with relatively any carrier, and it's also 100$ cheaper than all other carriers when paid in full.
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fletch33 said:
they answered a lot of the reasons i would root and mainly i finally get to add more columns and rows THANK GOODNESS
but i can not seem to figure out how to switch back and forth to my Bluetooth stereo or headset when on a call there was a bluetooth button that appears to be gone and i have to hit speaker button to get off BT
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Hello,
Did you happen to find a work around for this because I'm experiencing the same issue. BTW i love Fletch.
capt77 said:
Hello,
Did you happen to find a work around for this because I'm experiencing the same issue. BTW i love Fletch.
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i did and it was right there the whole time but not as convenient as the old method before LP. when you are on the call look for the "More" button at the top right of the screen and its in there.
i blame it on the Underhills
If you download OneDrive from the play store, it will still give you the 100gb. Same thing happened to me on Verizon.

Verizon Rant...

Thank you Verizon for pulling one of the best features from Nougat... the Device Maintenance feature.
On the Beta when my phone would start to run slow, or lag a bit, all I had to do was launch a shortcut and press a button to close all apps, clean RAM, clear cache, and force close anything the was stuck....
Now, I have to go and manually do all that **** between 4 different menus. I mean, common Verizon, what's the damn deal here.
I don't see how thay feature was encroaching on your ability to make money off of apps on the Device.
Has the Unlocked nougat been released yet? I'm flashing that as soon as it does. And my next Galaxy, I'm purchasing the Unlocked model. This carrier controlled phone **** is ridiculous.
Anyone else feeling this way?
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What steps do you have to take to do what device maintenance does? I am assuming going to the battery settings in the main settings?
bennero said:
Thank you Verizon for pulling one of the best features from Nougat... the Device Maintenance feature.
On the Beta when my phone would start to run slow, or lag a bit, all I had to do was launch a shortcut and press a button to close all apps, clean RAM, clear cache, and force close anything the was stuck....
Now, I have to go and manually do all that **** between 4 different menus. I mean, common Verizon, what's the damn deal here.
I don't see how thay feature was encroaching on your ability to make money off of apps on the Device.
Has the Unlocked nougat been released yet? I'm flashing that as soon as it does. And my next Galaxy, I'm purchasing the Unlocked model. This carrier controlled phone **** is ridiculous.
Anyone else feeling this way?
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Tbh it's there if you go into the settings and hit the menu button top right and switch it to simplified settings it's there.
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Tbh it's there if you go into the settings and hit the menu button top right and switch it to simplified settings it's there.
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I don't see simplified settings. The 3 dots only give me Edit and Button Layout.
Not sure what's different from yours and mine...
I'm on Verizon with an S7 Edge and have the maintenance option. Settings/three for menu/view simplified list and it's there.
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bennero said:
Thank you Verizon for pulling one of the best features from Nougat... the Device Maintenance feature.
On the Beta when my phone would start to run slow, or lag a bit, all I had to do was launch a shortcut and press a button to close all apps, clean RAM, clear cache, and force close anything the was stuck....
Now, I have to go and manually do all that **** between 4 different menus. I mean, common Verizon, what's the damn deal here.
I don't see how thay feature was encroaching on your ability to make money off of apps on the Device.
Has the Unlocked nougat been released yet? I'm flashing that as soon as it does. And my next Galaxy, I'm purchasing the Unlocked model. This carrier controlled phone **** is ridiculous.
Anyone else feeling this way?
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Like others have said, Settings, Three Dots, Simplified View.
seandop said:
Like others have said, Settings, Three Dots, Simplified View.
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I know that is there. But the Beta was one click and done. Now it's a tedious process.
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Verizon is always afraid that people who don't know **** about their technology will accidentally press a button and **** their phone up. This would lead to a significant number of calls to their Help Desk & Support numbers costing them dollars to staff up. Its always about the dollar.
As I thought, it is in the battery tab in settings. Not that hard to get to. Simplified list makes it slightly easier to get to, but not enough to worry about. Glad the option is there at least. Not sure it really does much, but I use it every so often.
ChadH42 said:
Verizon is always afraid that people who don't know **** about their technology will accidentally press a button and **** their phone up. This would lead to a significant number of calls to their Help Desk & Support numbers costing them dollars to staff up. Its always about the dollar.
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I'm surprised, if you read XDA on a regular basis, that you haven't come to the same conclusion.
I usually try to assume that anyone on XDA at least "sort of" knows the basics of how to follow directions, and yet time after time proven wrong. I for one understand 100 percent why phone companies lock down devices. Imagine if installing custom ROMs was available to every average Joe... Companies would be overwhelmed by idiots ruining their devices.
You already have many people on XDA whom admit that they have turned in insurance claims on phones they bricked....imagine that times millions...
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