Android L Update Discussion - Verizon HTC One (M8)

So far it looks like we have only 54 days left until the end of HTC's promise window and according to HTC's website our device is in the 3rd of 5 stages of development, the 5th being release.
Has anyone heard anything that would indicate a time frame sooner than the 1st of February?
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And then we wait for the carriers to pass all their inspections.. So I'm thinking the carrier will have the build within the 90 but how long do they test and hold it until release? Hopefully HTC gets it to the carriers by the end of this month so we can have a release by Feb
I'm excited to try out lollipop with sense on top but I will say I'm pretty satisfied with GPE lollipop builds now and very happy to have it so early and running great.
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What does anyone think of the leaked images over on Phandroid of the OS in action?
I wish they would change the lockscreen to something more AOSP-like, but I suppose its not as horrible as it could be.

CMNDR said:
What does anyone think of the leaked images over on Phandroid of the OS in action?
I wish they would change the lockscreen to something more AOSP-like, but I suppose its not as horrible as it could be.
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I wish they'd keep more of the material Google look. It looks like more of the same from Android 4.4 to be honest.
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flyinj54 said:
I wish they'd keep more of the material Google look. It looks like more of the same from Android 4.4 to be honest.
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Hey, at least it's not that crap Samsung is pushing. Completely ruined the best looking Android yet.

The card-based app switcher is objectively worse than the old 3x3 grid, where you could see everything at a glance without any scrolling, know exactly where to tap (even before the thumbnails appeared), and it would require only a single tap to switch to/close any window or close all apps.
Thumbnails in a vertical/horizontal stack is similarly terrible.
What happened to efficient design?

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The card-based app switcher is objectively worse than the old 3x3 grid, where you could see everything at a glance without any scrolling, know exactly where to tap (even before the thumbnails appeared), and it would require only a single tap to switch to/close any window or close all apps.
Thumbnails in a vertical/horizontal stack is similarly terrible.
What happened to efficient design?
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It is odd, but I think I could do with the current format as long as they included a close all button somewhere in that screen. It just that when I think about it I tend not to go back more than 4 apps in my history when switching, and more often just go to close all recent apps.

We don't really need a close all button. You can already close them all at once by opening the recents pinching 2 fingers together on the screen. Simple.
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robocuff said:
We don't really need a close all button. You can already close them all at once by opening the recents pinching 2 fingers together on the screen. Simple.
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But that's not a really intuitive gesture when working with a stack of cards.

I'm shocked there doesn't seem to me more discussion of this. I've seen some leaked picrures and descriptions of new features/layout recently. Looks good! I'm hoping January is the month we get it.

PsiPhiDan said:
I'm shocked there doesn't seem to me more discussion of this. I've seen some leaked picrures and descriptions of new features/layout recently. Looks good! I'm hoping January is the month we get it.
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Android 5.0 Lollipop Update: HTC One M8 And M7 May Receive New Software On Jan. 3

robocuff said:
We don't really need a close all button. You can already close them all at once by opening the recents pinching 2 fingers together on the screen. Simple.
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That doesn't work in Digitalhigh's latest GPE, or I've misunderstood you. But I've tried dragging two fingers toward the center from top and bottom and left and right with the recent apps open, and I've tried swiping up on Recent while swiping down from the top. Several times. Nothing happens. But, DH has implemented a close all button, so maybe he disabled the gesture you describe.
Personally, I'm a fan of the windshield wiper method. Open recents, and swing your thumb back and forth on the screen, horizontally. Like a windshield wiper. It's fun in a Fruit Ninja kind of way. Not really, but I tell myself it is.
As for HTC's 90-day guarantee, I'm expecting end of February. I bet they'll have it out for the international users by the end of January, and then pass the buck to Verizon and Sprint to get it done in a month. They never specified who would get the update, just that they would get it out. International users don't have to worry about carrier BS, so I'm thinking maybe the 90-day promise just applies to them.
But hey, I'm running Lollipop now and it's stock Android, and I couldn't be happier with this phone. But if Google continues making Nexus phones available here in the US (and by that I mean operable on national American carriers), I might just go that route. I just hope the 2016 Nexus 8, the new phone presumably coming out this year (leaving alone speculation as to what they call next year's), isn't 8" across. Give it a saner 4.7" diagonal measurement, and an 8MP camera on the front, hence the name.

Maybe a good sign.

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anyone else disappointed with the GB update?

call me weird but i was expecting more. the update release said new widgets and icons and colors and all im seeing is a new color on the notification bar. i have yet to find new widgets or icons or different looking icons or widgets. the phone looks exactly the same except for the notification bar and that little yellow thing that pops up when you reach the bottom of a screen. yes im happy about the speed improvement. the phone is a lot faster then before but other then that its the same old charge
the color scheme is wack. FUGLY!
dennis- said:
call me weird but i was expecting more. the update release said new widgets and icons and colors and all im seeing is a new color on the notification bar. i have yet to find new widgets or icons or different looking icons or widgets. the phone looks exactly the same except for the notification bar and that little yellow thing that pops up when you reach the bottom of a screen. yes im happy about the speed improvement. the phone is a lot faster then before but other then that its the same old charge
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This was a software update, not a device refresh. They fixed bugs, revved the Android version, and improved the radios. I'm not sure why you (or anyone else) was expecting major changes to the look/functionality of the device.
I'm not sure why they didn't at least take the Stratosphere's interface design/colors (which is more uniform), as that is essentially the same phone with a smaller screen and physical keyboard.
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I'm not sure why they didn't at least take the Stratosphere's interface design/colors (which is more uniform), as that is essentially the same phone with a smaller screen and physical keyboard.
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+1 My wife just got a Stratosphere and the color scheme is what the Charge's should've been. Everything that's poopy and orange on our phones is green on hers. Jealous...
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bluevolume said:
This was a software update, not a device refresh. They fixed bugs, revved the Android version, and improved the radios. I'm not sure why you (or anyone else) was expecting major changes to the look/functionality of the device.
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The Verizon PDF said so, that's why.
I see this as a major rip off. It's the biggest case of false advertisement since the Marvel Comic "The New Fantastic Four" which stated on the cover that the Punisher makes a cameo appearance and the only place you can find him is in an ad for subscriptions.
I don't really care seeing as I'm running the ICS theme....but F-U Verisung.
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The Verizon PDF said so, that's why.
I see this as a major rip off. It's the biggest case of false advertisement since the Marvel Comic "The New Fantastic Four" which stated on the cover that the Punisher makes a cameo appearance and the only place you can find him is in an ad for subscriptions.
I don't really care seeing as I'm running the ICS theme....but F-U Verisung.
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B*tch b*tch nag nag, if you don't like it, go learn how to theme.
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One legitimate complaint that I have is they borked the built in screen capture function. You can no longer capture some screens (notification shade for example) because the phone lags while trying to produce a stupid animation before capturing the screen.
Yes, it would be possible to use an app from the market but I should not need to. They essentially removed a useful feature.
Also I find that the orange page limit glow gets in the way or certain things. It sometimes covers up what I am trying to look at. If I want to drag a photo to be able to see the edge in the gallery app for example when zoomed in. The stupid orange glow covers up the picture; having the glow cover up a web page is one thing but covering up the edge I am trying to look at is wrong. Essentially they removed the functionality of being able to drag a web page, image, etc., to the center of the screen and view it.
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ilovesoad said:
B*tch b*tch nag nag, if you don't like it, go learn how to theme.
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Some people don't have time to theme... Some people also don't root their device...
If you don't like their comment, ignore it. Don't insult other members.
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Camera Issue
I was pleased with the update, and color scheme doesn't matter to me near as much as a more stable radio, and more responsive interface. Here is the reason I wish I would not have updated. CAMERA! I have a 2 year old and a 2 month old. Before, you could press and hold the shutter button to focus, and when you released it instantly snapped the shot. Now, that's a no go! A second + lag...... Hard to get the "good" shot that is hard to get. Bummer!
i love the speed improvements thats for sure. the phone is 100 times faster then it was but i think if verizon is going to publish documents claiming new icons and new widgets they should probably deliver on that.
I get FFC so I'm happy.
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I'm not happy. They took away and broke crap while in the process.
Well I just got my Charge from FedEx man 20 minutes ago, and after turning on phone and it "activating" the GSB update was the first screen to pop up, no user setup, Google account, etc. So i can't say how well the old version worked :/ But The update downloaded off 4G FAST...first app off market was Speed Test, and it got blazing 23069kbps down and 14094kbps up!
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Well I just got my Charge from FedEx man 20 minutes ago, and after turning on phone and it "activating" the GSB update was the first screen to pop up, no user setup, Google account, etc. So i can't say how well the old version worked :/ But The update downloaded off 4G FAST...first app off market was Speed Test, and it got blazing 23069kbps down and 14094kbps up!
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nice!! welcome to the Charge and LTE lol... now root that biotch and debloat/rom it
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Root bear?
anoninja118 said:
nice!! welcome to the Charge and LTE lol... now root that biotch and debloat/rom it
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Well heck ya I want to root. Looking at my options for ROMs...thinking mybe need to roll my own. Man we need move Devs
Go with Infinity.
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Got my Charge in May. I run stock because I don't care what the interface looks like. I need it to work, no time for bricks, make phone calls, txt, Google Docs etc. I was about done with Froyo because it was getting so slow, it seemed almost like it was being emulated on my phone. Was about to make a stink with Verizon.
Got the update. It fixed every single bug/complaint I ever had with the phone, and/or it enhanced every feature by fine tuning it.
Here is a short list of complaints fixed immediately:
GUI now hauls butt with little or no lag
bluetooth works perfectly and connects to my headset and stays connected
programs close on their own - don't have to constantly free memory
GPS works and is accurate
Yahoo Mail in email actually WORKS
The call quality is the clearest of any phone I've ever had (I do have great coverage here). 4G LTE hauls butt. With GB This phone makes my old iPhone looks like a piece of garbage.
Just my opinion.
i found the fancy new icons they were boasting about. the update available and download complete icons are new. ooohhhh aahhhhh.
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i found the fancy new icons they were boasting about. the update available and download complete icons are new. ooohhhh aahhhhh.
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My phone doesn't show an available update yet, not sure why, perhaps it's because I'm running Humble 5.0 and not stock . . . Anyway, when I do get the new OTA, how do I get the new icons/widgets? Is it a separate download or something? Thanks!

all the talk about lag?

When I see this i guess either mine is fine or I dont know what they are looking at . Some one could let me know what the lag is so I can check mine.
I get no lag at all
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Yay!!!! Another lag/no lag thread!!!!!!!!!!!
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Bigtjmc said:
When I see this i guess either mine is fine or I dont know what they are looking at . Some one could let me know what the lag is so I can check mine.
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Its everywhere.... Where do I start? there is a delay unlocking the phone once your finger swipes, opening apps is slow, pressing home button to return to home screen is delayed (after disabling the home button in svoice), pulling the notification window down randomly stutters. Most of these are random and inconsistant, but 1 that I have found is ALWAYS an issue is in the Samsung Browser. Do this to see the lag. at the top there is the window notification in the broswer that shows how many open windows there are. Press it and see how long it takes to display the other windows.
The lag is everywhere... Had I not returned my HTC One to get this I would return it in a second, but they wont accept a second return now, so im stuck with a crap phone....
Im sorry that everyone is having these issues but mine seems fine and if it is lagging then maybe im not a super user and to me it dont seem to be a problem , my only issue is the keypad I keep hitting the numbers when typing and letters when spacing . And the windows tab opens pretty quick to me bout .9 of a second and it opens.
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Im sorry that everyone is having these issues but mine seems fine and if it is lagging then maybe im not a super user and to me it dont seem to be a problem , my only issue is the keypad I keep hitting the numbers when typing and letters when spacing . And the windows tab opens pretty quick to me bout .9 of a second and it opens.
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use a different browser and see how fast it is. Thats the problem .9 seconds is lag, I guess were use to different speeds. If you are coming from a craptastic phone that had alot of lag you wont notice it as much as someone who is use to a fast phone like a Nexus 4 or HTC One. Those phones are blazing, and honestly my old Note 2 was faster than this S4.
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Its everywhere.... Where do I start? there is a delay unlocking the phone once your finger swipes, opening apps is slow, pressing home button to return to home screen is delayed (after disabling the home button in svoice), pulling the notification window down randomly stutters. Most of these are random and inconsistant, but 1 that I have found is ALWAYS an issue is in the Samsung Browser. Do this to see the lag. at the top there is the window notification in the broswer that shows how many open windows there are. Press it and see how long it takes to display the other windows.
The lag is everywhere... Had I not returned my HTC One to get this I would return it in a second, but they wont accept a second return now, so im stuck with a crap phone....
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After playing a bit with the one I do agree that it is quite a bit snappier however something about it just seemed boring. As for the lock screen I do agree and I was able to help the issue a bit by switching to the ripple effect apposed to light under lockscreen effect. Also switching to thumb keyboard greatly improved speed there. However after using it for a few days the little bit of lag either gotten better or I just notice less.
Might be just that , ive been on a htc vivid since November 2011 and it got to be a pain in the arse to use. Hopefully they will have something that will fix it soon.
No lag here, but I've said that already.
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I just came from an iPhone 5 and the GS4 is already back in the box. I used it for one day and it was pretty bad. I guess if I had used it longer I might have gotten used to the slowness of it but the fact that SVoice and Google Voice search didn't work over bluetooth in my car like Siri and Google do on my iPhone made me return it.
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I just came from an iPhone 5 and the GS4 is already back in the box. I used it for one day and it was pretty bad. I guess if I had used it longer I might have gotten used to the slowness of it but the fact that SVoice and Google Voice search didn't work over bluetooth in my car like Siri and Google do on my iPhone made me return it.
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Blue tooth voice search works for me flawlessly
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All this talk about lag is kinda chasing me away, of my dream of getting gs4, you guys think I'd be better off with the note 2?
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All this talk about lag is kinda chasing me away, of my dream of getting gs4, you guys think I'd be better off with the note 2?
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Yes the Note 2 is MUCH and I mean MUCH smoother right out of the box...
I am seriously considering trading my S4 for a Nexus 4 or a Note 2...
This phone may get better in time but that time is NOT now..
Give Samsung time to address it....geez, guys!
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Give Samsung time to address it....geez, guys!
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Samsung and AT&T have a long track record of taking months upon months to address issues via a software fix..
Its just the trolls with the "lag". Guess they need something to post about.
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Samsung and AT&T have a long track record of taking months upon months to address issues via a software fix..
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Root it in the mean time, install tibackup and start removing crap. Clearly the phone is loaded with only 8 or 9gb free on a 16gb device.
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Yes the Note 2 is MUCH and I mean MUCH smoother right out of the box...
I am seriously considering trading my S4 for a Nexus 4 or a Note 2...
This phone may get better in time but that time is NOT now..
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with already having root, and the bootloader unlock already verified to be coming soon, i think you would be doing yourself wrong to get rid of your gs4. since we now know that custom roms will be on their way. and since we know that custom roms do perform better than stock roms.
Anyone who says their S 4 doesn't lag is either lying, blind, or seriously has never used a lag free phone. I don't see how its going to be fixed either since its mostly due the the extraordinary amount of bloat in this version of Touchwiz with a tone of useless "features" that are also responsible for taking up so much memory space. I have an iPhone 5 which is lag free like all iPhones ever and a Note 2 which has a minor amount of lag in a few places. The shoddy cheap plastic construction, bloat, and minimal memory space is an insult to Samsung customers. At least the buttons are better but Samsung is out of control everywhere else. Ugh. They msut really think their customers will put up with anything they deign to slop down to them.
I did notice a tad bit of lag here and there and to me the 3 main contributions to lag in any s4 are this
1- stock browser ie. Keyboard lag
2-stock launcher, I use go ex
3-att crap bloat, I've deleted not disabled it all
My s4 is f'in fast as hell with no lag after addressing those three items
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Tab 3 8 Kit Kat. What's new?

I just got the kit kat update for Tab 3 8. I live in LA California. Wifi only and I had to force it using the check for updates option. So I can list a few differences I'm noticing. I'm pretty sure all this stuff is new but some of it might be stuff I missed with 4.2.2.
Transparent notification bar.
New multiwindow experience. Now it does not have that little tab hanging over the side. Now you swipe it in from the side. I haven't played with it, I still find it unusable.
You can customise the toggle ribbon more now. You still have to have tons of icons but you can pick the order and take a few out.
The lock screen has a now playing type widget that looks nice.
On-screen keyboard toogle for bluetooth keyboards. I actually am trying to write a screenplay on this tablet and I had to buy a stupid app to fix the stupid keyboard the stupid way it worked be stupid fore and now it works better and I bought a stupid app for stupid nothing. But I'm glad it works better now.
That's all I've noticed so far. I also don't use touchwiz, I use nova.
Tell me what you guys are noticing or if you find an official list of changes let me know. Thanks everybody
- Matt
Jacksonville, FL here and no update available yet.
Cosmetically it's hard to notice the difference on the firmware, but under the hood there are some serious changes to the firmware, but all for the better.
The "Transparent Notification bar" was there on JB 4.2.2,
And "Multiple windows" is very functional now.
● TouchWiz is lighter and smooth now...
(I'm so happy with it's performance now, to the point I didn't bothered to install the Google Now Launcher yet...)
● Third-party apps can't write to External SD card anymore...
(There is a way if you root the device)
● Some extra new Wi-Fi settings.
● The keyboard is improved and the "Picture gallery" and other factory apps also received some TLC for the better.
But for me, the "Multiple User capability" is definitely th e Icing on the cake.
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I wish samsung would have given us the new touchwiz. but of course they won't..
NJ_RAMS_FAN said:
I wish samsung would have given us the new touchwiz. but of course they won't..
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[emoji25] One year old device and already considered 2nd class and outdated by the manufacturer...
This is likely the first and the last update this device will see from Samsung.
I like Samsung devices, but I finally lost interest in buying any Samsung devices in the future.
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Smokey Mc Pot said:
[emoji25] One year old device and already considered 2nd class and outdated by the manufacturer...
This is likely the first and the last update this device will see from Samsung.
I like Samsung devices, but I finally lost interest in buying any Samsung devices in the future.
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you and me bro.. look at my sig.. tons of samsung product.. but no more!!! unless its super cheap, i wont another one..
NJ_RAMS_FAN said:
you and me bro.. look at my sig.. tons of samsung product.. but no more!!! unless its super cheap, i wont another one..
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Head on over to the Apple forum. They update their clunkers ...well basically forever. ..LOL.
DigitalMD said:
Head on over to the Apple forum. They update their clunkers ...well basically forever. ..LOL.
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[emoji57] Is that comment meant to be an attempt in sarcasm ?
[emoji23] It come out just plain silly instead!
Please do not attempt a career as a comedian,
[emoji39]You will fail miserably!!!
There is more to Android than just Samsung devices!!!
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"OK Google Everywhere" works like a dream on the Tab 3
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auto brightness sucks.
I was hoping the autobrightness would get fixed. For me it's always way too dim. Where is the light sensor?
PCycle said:
I just got the kit kat update for Tab 3 8. I live in LA California. Wifi only and I had to force it using the check for updates option. So I can list a few differences I'm noticing. I'm pretty sure all this stuff is new but some of it might be stuff I missed with 4.2.2.
Transparent notification bar.
New multiwindow experience. Now it does not have that little tab hanging over the side. Now you swipe it in from the side. I haven't played with it, I still find it unusable.
You can customise the toggle ribbon more now. You still have to have tons of icons but you can pick the order and take a few out.
The lock screen has a now playing type widget that looks nice.
On-screen keyboard toogle for bluetooth keyboards. I actually am trying to write a screenplay on this tablet and I had to buy a stupid app to fix the stupid keyboard the stupid way it worked be stupid fore and now it works better and I bought a stupid app for stupid nothing. But I'm glad it works better now.
That's all I've noticed so far. I also don't use touchwiz, I use nova.
Tell me what you guys are noticing or if you find an official list of changes let me know. Thanks everybody
- Matt
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I was hoping the autobrightness would get fixed. For me it's always way too dim. Where is the light sensor?
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Autobrightness is horrible on the Tab3, it's fine on my S5 as well as previous S2 and other Android devices I've used. But the Tab3 Sucks, I'm always taking it off auto especially durring the day, dim as hell lol

Verizon Rant...

Thank you Verizon for pulling one of the best features from Nougat... the Device Maintenance feature.
On the Beta when my phone would start to run slow, or lag a bit, all I had to do was launch a shortcut and press a button to close all apps, clean RAM, clear cache, and force close anything the was stuck....
Now, I have to go and manually do all that **** between 4 different menus. I mean, common Verizon, what's the damn deal here.
I don't see how thay feature was encroaching on your ability to make money off of apps on the Device.
Has the Unlocked nougat been released yet? I'm flashing that as soon as it does. And my next Galaxy, I'm purchasing the Unlocked model. This carrier controlled phone **** is ridiculous.
Anyone else feeling this way?
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What steps do you have to take to do what device maintenance does? I am assuming going to the battery settings in the main settings?
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Thank you Verizon for pulling one of the best features from Nougat... the Device Maintenance feature.
On the Beta when my phone would start to run slow, or lag a bit, all I had to do was launch a shortcut and press a button to close all apps, clean RAM, clear cache, and force close anything the was stuck....
Now, I have to go and manually do all that **** between 4 different menus. I mean, common Verizon, what's the damn deal here.
I don't see how thay feature was encroaching on your ability to make money off of apps on the Device.
Has the Unlocked nougat been released yet? I'm flashing that as soon as it does. And my next Galaxy, I'm purchasing the Unlocked model. This carrier controlled phone **** is ridiculous.
Anyone else feeling this way?
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Tbh it's there if you go into the settings and hit the menu button top right and switch it to simplified settings it's there.
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Tbh it's there if you go into the settings and hit the menu button top right and switch it to simplified settings it's there.
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I don't see simplified settings. The 3 dots only give me Edit and Button Layout.
Not sure what's different from yours and mine...
I'm on Verizon with an S7 Edge and have the maintenance option. Settings/three for menu/view simplified list and it's there.
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bennero said:
Thank you Verizon for pulling one of the best features from Nougat... the Device Maintenance feature.
On the Beta when my phone would start to run slow, or lag a bit, all I had to do was launch a shortcut and press a button to close all apps, clean RAM, clear cache, and force close anything the was stuck....
Now, I have to go and manually do all that **** between 4 different menus. I mean, common Verizon, what's the damn deal here.
I don't see how thay feature was encroaching on your ability to make money off of apps on the Device.
Has the Unlocked nougat been released yet? I'm flashing that as soon as it does. And my next Galaxy, I'm purchasing the Unlocked model. This carrier controlled phone **** is ridiculous.
Anyone else feeling this way?
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Like others have said, Settings, Three Dots, Simplified View.
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Like others have said, Settings, Three Dots, Simplified View.
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I know that is there. But the Beta was one click and done. Now it's a tedious process.
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Verizon is always afraid that people who don't know **** about their technology will accidentally press a button and **** their phone up. This would lead to a significant number of calls to their Help Desk & Support numbers costing them dollars to staff up. Its always about the dollar.
As I thought, it is in the battery tab in settings. Not that hard to get to. Simplified list makes it slightly easier to get to, but not enough to worry about. Glad the option is there at least. Not sure it really does much, but I use it every so often.
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Verizon is always afraid that people who don't know **** about their technology will accidentally press a button and **** their phone up. This would lead to a significant number of calls to their Help Desk & Support numbers costing them dollars to staff up. Its always about the dollar.
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I'm surprised, if you read XDA on a regular basis, that you haven't come to the same conclusion.
I usually try to assume that anyone on XDA at least "sort of" knows the basics of how to follow directions, and yet time after time proven wrong. I for one understand 100 percent why phone companies lock down devices. Imagine if installing custom ROMs was available to every average Joe... Companies would be overwhelmed by idiots ruining their devices.
You already have many people on XDA whom admit that they have turned in insurance claims on phones they bricked....imagine that times millions...
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is no one concern about the edge sense failure in the announcement?

I saw the phone's announcement, and in my opinion they should never let Charlie Chang present a phones again.
It was one of the most awkward announcements I watched. He looked like he is going to explode, and every feature he presented it looked like he is praying to god that it will work.
but that's one thing.
during the presentation he tried to activate google assistant through the Edge Sense, and it didn't work, then he tried again and it failed again, then he made the most awkward "ooopss" he could make, while trying again couple of times until he continued presenting the google assistant without mentioning or talking about the incident (which is understandable but still troubling).
the weirdest thing is that I can't find any review or post that talks about it, I thought the press will destroy Htc for this screw up.
for me it's really troubling, this gimmick can be nice, but it's the first time we see something like this on any phone and I have doubts about its quality.
what do you think?
Meh, to say that I've never had stuff like that happen on any phone I've owned would be a huge understatement.
Had a unit in hand to test it one week ahead of the official announcement. On my test unit the Edge Sense worked really good, after getting accustomed after the first 30 Minutes and configuring it to my pressure sensitivity in settings.
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Jeah some other people already tried Edge Sense and said something similar like @5m4r7ph0n36uru said. Its working okay or good - better then many expected. But for me its just a nice to have. Lets see how much they can improve this feature with future Software updates. Maybe its just a feature that ends up being a public prototype which would also be okay. If this feature is any good they will probably improve the hardware behind it in a future device.
I mean its the same with the fingerprint scanners, the first and even second version in the iPhone was quite bad in my opinion. The one in the 6s is good, but the ones before where too slow and the failure rate was too high (for me).
liorderei said:
I saw the phone's announcement, and in my opinion they should never let Charlie Chang present a phones again.
It was one of the most awkward announcements I watched. He looked like he is going to explode, and every feature he presented it looked like he is praying to god that it will work.
but that's one thing.
during the presentation he tried to activate google assistant through the Edge Sense, and it didn't work, then he tried again and it failed again, then he made the most awkward "ooopss" he could make, while trying again couple of times until he continued presenting the google assistant without mentioning or talking about the incident (which is understandable but still troubling).
the weirdest thing is that I can't find any review or post that talks about it, I thought the press will destroy Htc for this screw up.
for me it's really troubling, this gimmick can be nice, but it's the first time we see something like this on any phone and I have doubts about its quality.
what do you think?
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I wouldn't read too much into it - could be nerves, could be the phone wasn't set up properly for him, old software, etc.
Microsoft launched a version of windows (I think it might have been Win98) and during the launch they encountered the Blue Screen Of Death... it didn't seem to have much impact on their future!
I'm not too worried. If it doesn't work well I will just disable it. The phone is still nice.
Entrail said:
Jeah some other people already tried Edge Sense and said something similar like @5m4r7ph0n36uru said. Its working okay or good - better then many expected. But for me its just a nice to have. Lets see how much they can improve this feature with future Software updates. Maybe its just a feature that ends up being a public prototype which would also be okay. If this feature is any good they will probably improve the hardware behind it in a future device.
I mean its the same with the fingerprint scanners, the first and even second version in the iPhone was quite bad in my opinion. The one in the 6s is good, but the ones before where too slow and the failure rate was too high (for me).
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They will update it. As HTC told in the same briefing, they are already planing to implement Double-Tab as a possibility to take further actions with Edge Sense, though they couldn't tell the date at this time but only that it is on the list. So I guess they are definitely planing to implement more gestures by such a step making short press, long press and double press available. With two different force settings, this would give us six gestures in total to configure for separate actions.
Something further is App based actions that'll be implemented to change the action resulting from a short press depending on the App you're using.
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I saw reviews. it works pretty well.
5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
They will update it. As HTC told in the same briefing, they are already planing to implement Double-Tab as a possibility to take further actions with Edge Sense, though they couldn't tell the date at this time but only that it is on the list. So I guess they are definitely planing to implement more gestures by such a step making short press, long press and double press available. With two different force settings, this would give us six gestures in total to configure for separate actions.
Something further is App based actions that'll be implemented to change the action resulting from a short press depending on the App you're using.
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I hope so and i am sure they will but all I'm saying is that the hardware will be limited like i said with the fingerprint or another example the pressure sensitivity from the surface pen. In the first iterations it only had 256 different steps now they have around 2000. (not sure about the exact numbers here )
My hope is not too big about this squeeze feature in the first iteration but i am curious and will give it a try.
liorderei said:
I saw the phone's announcement, and in my opinion they should never let Charlie Chang present a phones again.
It was one of the most awkward announcements I watched. He looked like he is going to explode, and every feature he presented it looked like he is praying to god that it will work.
but that's one thing.
during the presentation he tried to activate google assistant through the Edge Sense, and it didn't work, then he tried again and it failed again, then he made the most awkward "ooopss" he could make, while trying again couple of times until he continued presenting the google assistant without mentioning or talking about the incident (which is understandable but still troubling).
the weirdest thing is that I can't find any review or post that talks about it, I thought the press will destroy Htc for this screw up.
for me it's really troubling, this gimmick can be nice, but it's the first time we see something like this on any phone and I have doubts about its quality.
what do you think?
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I thought the same Totally agreed with you... But I'm still buying the phone.. I hope after 1-2 updates it will work better.
I am lucky I wasn't in his shoes. Very awkward indeed. His hands were shaking.
I don't think it will damage sales. And in a live event anything can happen.
I don't think it even had to do with edge sense TBH... I think it had to do with the assistant apps themselves and probably the internet connection within the venue.
Mine works well do far. I just need to remember about it. I've left it starting the camera and it's good.
Honestly, I was hoping the edge sense would have worked just as the early videos showed of a couple walking the street and navigating the app drawer with the edge. Maybe version 2. But that was sick!
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mbaseball3 said:
Honestly, I was hoping the edge sense would have worked just as the early videos showed of a couple walking the street and navigating the app drawer with the edge. Maybe version 2. But that was sick!
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Can't say I've every been walking the street and needed to navigate the app draw. I have shortcuts for everything already. Actually only time I navigate the app draw is when I'm adding a shortcut lol. But I see what you saying. Maybe if they added volume up down or scrolling, but don't think that's how it works.
well... it would probably have worked better if she took them off..

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