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Thoughts so far

So far I love the phone. The feel and weight of the phone just seems better then my Captivate(which I gave to my wife). After not getting data on the phone unless I had WiFi on kind of sucked, but if you make a new network. You will be able to gain data back.
The only thing I am not liking is when I set up my HTC sense with Facebook, it put all my friends from facebook into my contacts list in my phone. I do not want all my friends on the list. I have tried and figure out how to delete from the list but cant figure it out. Anyone know how?
I also side loaded a few apps using the SLW program, once you download HTC sync on your computer it was easy.
I cant wait until this phone gets rooted so I can go in and change some stuff around, like ringtones. You can have custom ringtones when the phone is not plugged in to the USB but once you plug the USB in, it reverts back to the stock ringtones because it thinks shuts off your SD Card. Well you know what, I guess I can have the option to only have it charge will plugged in. That might work.
Other then that me loves the phone. Glade my wife had an upgrade so I could get the phone for $79.99 from Costco and a free charger with it. She loves my old Captivate so I was like hell ya ill trade ya!

Ha I love it...got a feeling alot of wives will be getting a captivate tommorow
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Happy valentines day ......here's my old phone! lol yes there will be alot of this goin on
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lol actually bought the wife a new Inspire to match mine, talked my parents into both getting them as well !

milleirish said:
The only thing I am not liking is when I set up my HTC sense with Facebook, it put all my friends from facebook into my contacts list in my phone. I do not want all my friends on the list. I have tried and figure out how to delete from the list but cant figure it out. Anyone know how?
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I have the Evo for sprint which should be similar. Open your People/contacts app, hit menu, and you should see an option that says 'View'. Select view to choose which contacts you want displayed and deselect your Facebook account.
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abanh said:
I have the Evo for sprint which should be similar. Open your People/contacts app, hit menu, and you should see an option that says 'View'. Select view to choose which contacts you want displayed and deselect your Facebook account.
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Ok so in the people and contacts it has my correct contacts. What am talking about is when you look at the phone on the homescreen you see the button that says phone. If you click on that it will show every one of my Facebook friends, even the ones they I dont have in my contact list. I dont want them there.

I haven't mentioned to my wife yet... she's gonna wonder why the hell I'm getting up early on a Sunday morning, probably think I'm having an affair, lol.

aimfire72 said:
I haven't mentioned to my wife yet... she's gonna wonder why the hell I'm getting up early on a Sunday morning, probably think I'm having an affair, lol.
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You are, with the Inspire 4G. hahaha

I dont regret it for a second, yeah no Real 4G but we have root, roms and radios NOW.
Also, for those that just want to install apps and leave the phone stock you can go to this thread created by me: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943174
The phone feels so polished and the screen is awesome, no Craptivate screen but it will turn heads.
We have accomplished so much in so little time.
Thanks to all the devs and porters out there, this is already a more than worthwhile device and for the price you can not beat it.
Atrix is just a bad memory of Motoblur hell, good luck trying to even root that damn thing.. hahaha

milleirish said:
Ok so in the people and contacts it has my correct contacts. What am talking about is when you look at the phone on the homescreen you see the button that says phone. If you click on that it will show every one of my Facebook friends, even the ones they I dont have in my contact list. I dont want them there.
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Ok I know what you're saying, and I didn't even realized my phone did that until you just mentioned it. I didn't see a way to get rid of them either.
If this is bothering you because you have to scroll through so many more names to get to the contact you want to dial, have you tried the t9 smart dialer feature? Lets say you want to dial 'John', instead of scrolling all the way down to his name, just spell out his name via t9 (5 for 'j', 6 for 'o', 4 for 'h', etc). The contacts that match what you're typing will appear and you don't have to scroll through all the names. My Evo and other HTC sense phones do this ( stock android doesn't, but you can download other dialers in the market that do). If you already knew this and just don't want the names to appear, can't help you there.
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I really, really like this phone. My ear speaker is great, although the external speaker is a little weak. Not a huge deal though, just had to select the high pitched notifications to be sure to hear them.
Sent from my Inspire 4g using XDA app.

I thought it was interesting that Facebook .com thought my phone was a nexus one
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i went to check this out in the store today. a few thoughts
-size is great. i compared it to my nexus one w/seidocase and it is only slightly larger... like less than a .25" larger in width and length
-weight is great. very comparable to n1 w/case
-sense 2.0 looked pretty slick.
-very fast... zero lag.
-my only stickler was the screen. i could see the "grid" dots on the display unit. is this typical of slcd?

Love it already and havent had it 5 hours yet, beats my old htc surround hands down.

This kicks the captivates ass all around, even unrooted with stock rom. Soooo glad I pulled the trigger... nice to have a decent exchange email client as part of the basic package (sorry touchdown, but the integration is a big plus... I hated the separate address books).

The more I use my phone the more I realize everything works and works well.
Have installed pretty much everything there is and it plays or runs them without a hiccup.
Obviously the only apps it will not run are the ones that require root. My plan is to do this very soon so I can take advantage of those as well.
Every single game I've installed is smooth with no lag.
Emulators work with zero issues, my plan is to try the the psx one next.
You can not measure the battery life right away, it has to get used to a few charges first. See the Desire HD forums and they will say the same.
I've made some calls and can say that it sounds great, I've tried both the loudspeaker and the ear speaker and both sound fine to me.
Obviously the small speaker will not be that loud especially at first. Still planning to use DSP Manager to see if it fixes it.
I've still to try out the gps while moving in the vehicle as well.
Build quality is very satisfying and is what's expected from HTC.
Where I had trouble getting 3G I am now getting a constant H+ according to the phone.
What else can I say I made an excellent choice and with the Sideload Wonder Machine, root, radio and custom ROMs there's room to make this phone even better with those options.
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Getting ready to sell Triumph

As many others have been doing lately, I also am getting ready to sell my Triumph and leave VM. In my case, I'm getting the Galaxy Note (just ordered it) and will be using it on Straight Talk. I have my phone on me 24/7 and just got tired of not having a completely reliable phone/service. I've really enjoyed being a part of this community and have appreciated all the work the devs put in. Wish I could have contributed more, but with every thing I've learned in my Android/rooting experience with the OV and MT I was able to give some little tips here and there, which I hope were helpful.
As a heads up, when I get around to it, once I get my Note all set up and play around with it to make sure it's all working right, I'll be posting this in the classifieds to give you guys first dibs on it before I put it on Craigslist or eBay, if you're looking to buy an extra or upgrade, along with a summary of the issues it has (fortunately nothing too major, pretty much just the basic QC issues everyone's had.)
I wish you all well as you continue on with VM and the Triumph, and I'll miss being a part of it.

I'm actually selling my triumph as well. Going to straight talk but getting the iphone. I know iphone dont kill me lol.

is it a good phone ?

androidjel said:
is it a good phone ?
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Its not the best. If you spend some time reading reviews and checking out the forums here and on AndroidForums (its more active over there) you'll see all the issues people have had with it. I upgraded to it from my OV and since I was willing to overlook the minor issues I had with it I loved it but the unreliability of the touchscreen has driven me crazy lately. It definitely runs 100% better with cm7, although froyo is better for gaming and has HDMI. I'd say it really depends on your usage. If you're not on it 24/7 like me and can overlook the minor issues its great, otherwise I'd say to stay away. I hate saying that knowing I'll be selling it soon, but I can't in good conscience say otherwise
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Its not the best. If you spend some time reading reviews and checking out the forums here and on AndroidForums (its more active over there) you'll see all the issues people have had with it. I upgraded to it from my OV and since I was willing to overlook the minor issues I had with it I loved it but the unreliability of the touchscreen has driven me crazy lately. It definitely runs 100% better with cm7, although froyo is better for gaming and has HDMI. I'd say it really depends on your usage. If you're not on it 24/7 like me and can overlook the minor issues its great, otherwise I'd say to stay away. I hate saying that knowing I'll be selling it soon, but I can't in good conscience say otherwise
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hey now, i see that you're complaining about the unreliability of the touchscreen. Have you tried removing the 2nd screen protector from the phone? I was complaining too until I removed it. Made a big difference.

mllk said:
hey now, i see that you're complaining about the unreliability of the touchscreen. Have you tried removing the 2nd screen protector from the phone? I was complaining too until I removed it. Made a big difference.
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Yeah, did that probably the first week I had it. Didn't seem to make much of a difference.
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I have had the phone for about 7 months now and I am still happy with it. Of course coming from a Blackberry I should be, but with the amount of customization and development available for this phone, you can fix ALMOST all the bugs or glitches that most ppl were complaining about on Froyo.
Over at androidforums, ziggy46 and some others are almost finished with a gingerbread rom that has HDMI working on it. All they need fixed is 3G/Data & and SMS/MMS which, thanks to our devs, we have had really good luck at getting to work on so many other roms.
On top of that, we are beginning to have new ICS roms popping up. This phone is far from dead as some would think.

I am too selling the phone and moving to another carrier. What will VM do to the phone after the different provider will port the number? Will I need to do anything before I sell? I reverted to stock, but CWM is still there, will the buyer be able to activate it?
Thank you, it's been pleasure to be a part of CM7 triumph development.

freedomispopular said:
As many others have been doing lately, I also am getting ready to sell my Triumph and leave VM. In my case, I'm getting the Galaxy Note (just ordered it) and will be using it on Straight Talk. I have my phone on me 24/7 and just got tired of not having a completely reliable phone/service. I've really enjoyed being a part of this community and have appreciated all the work the devs put in. Wish I could have contributed more, but with every thing I've learned in my Android/rooting experience with the OV and MT I was able to give some little tips here and there, which I hope were helpful.
As a heads up, when I get around to it, once I get my Note all set up and play around with it to make sure it's all working right, I'll be posting this in the classifieds to give you guys first dibs on it before I put it on Craigslist or eBay, if you're looking to buy an extra or upgrade, along with a summary of the issues it has (fortunately nothing too major, pretty much just the basic QC issues everyone's had.)
I wish you all well as you continue on with VM and the Triumph, and I'll miss being a part of it.
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You said you are getting a galaxy note on straight talk?Please tell me how to do that,i have wanted that phone so bad but i can not afford to get regular phone store service/contract.Getting that phone on straight talk would be a dream come true for me.
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prodigy10 said:
I'm actually selling my triumph as well. Going to straight talk but getting the iphone. I know iphone dont kill me lol.
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How do you get the iphone on straight talk?That is awesome!I just asked freedomispopular how he is getting his galaxy note on straight talk,if i could do that i would leave virgin in a heartbeat.The triumph has been fun but i would really like to get a high end mainstream phone for once and do it with out the contract and being on a mainstream phone carrier.My mother in law and father in law both have straight talk and it is amazing,they travel all over the place and said it has worked everywhere they have been,and crystal clear.thanks in advance.

alcapone1130 said:
You said you are getting a galaxy note on straight talk?Please tell me how to do that,i have wanted that phone so bad but i can not afford to get regular phone store service/contract.Getting that phone on straight talk would be a dream come true for me.
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How do you get the iphone on straight talk?That is awesome!I just asked freedomispopular how he is getting his galaxy note on straight talk,if i could do that i would leave virgin in a heartbeat.The triumph has been fun but i would really like to get a high end mainstream phone for once and do it with out the contract and being on a mainstream phone carrier.My mother in law and father in law both have straight talk and it is amazing,they travel all over the place and said it has worked everywhere they have been,and crystal clear.thanks in advance.
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It's pretty simple. You just buy the phone (Amazon, Ebay, or Expansys USA would be some good places to look), then go to straighttalksim.com and buy the $15 Sim card along with their monthly service, pop the Sim card in, put in the apn settings, and you're good to go. You'd do basically the same thing for the iPhone. There's a thread here with a lot of info if you have time to red through it: http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1753835 I had no problems setting mine up, so if you decide to go that route and have any questions feel free to pm me.
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Ok,Wow that sounds easy.Thank you so much!What company can it be?sprint,at&t,tmobile or what?

alcapone1130 said:
Ok,Wow that sounds easy.Thank you so much!What company can it be?sprint,at&t,tmobile or what?
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Straight Talk's BYOP program uses ATT or tmo, depending on which Sim you order. With either of those devices, you'd wanna choose the ATT Sim, as they would only get edge speeds on tmo. If you had a pentaband device or one designed to utilize tmo's 3g you'd choose the tmo Sim.
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CoPilot Gps FREE

Hi guys, just a heads up. Copilot gps navigation is free. You can download any country map for free BUT, there's always a BUT, full voice guided navigation costs you £19.99 in the UK. But hey, its for free. Might be of use to somebody.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.alk.copilot.mapviewer&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5hbGsuY29waWxvdC5tYXB2aWV3ZXIiXQ..

HELL YESSS!!!!!!!
I bought the UK one on my iPhone for £19.99, and was pissed that when I switched to android im told I have to buy it again! , can happily live without voice as I use it on my motorcycle where I cant hear anything over the exhaust noise anyway!
Edit: still annoying its only 2D

i have just downloaded this but i get 3d view and turn by turn voice i havent paid is it a trial or something like that?

treble4 said:
i have just downloaded this but i get 3d view and turn by turn voice i havent paid is it a trial or something like that?
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Im getting the same, I assumed it was because I had the UK and Ireland map purchases link to my account already, only time will tell i guess!

ok out of interest i deleted it then re downloaded it direct from gplay and as stated no 3d and no voice is the link higher up a cracked version?

treble4 said:
ok out of interest i deleted it then re downloaded it direct from gplay and as stated no 3d and no voice is the link higher up a cracked version?
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I don't think so mate. Its from the Play Store so it should be completely legitimate. I think you must've just encountered a bug or something that got you features that were supposed to be blocked.
Oh well, having read the reviews it sounds quite buggy in general. Waiting for the new Sygic...

Corrupt text inputs
Is it just my copy of it? On the Prime the text input does not work correctly and keeps adding or removing random letters. Cannot enter an email address easily and now have no idea what password was set.
Works well on the Xoom but not the prime.

Configuration issue
does someone know if there is a way to configure this app so the menu'es aren't so tiny?

i purchased copilot uk years ago on my G1 phone and for some reason its completely disappeared from my google account. so ive just gone ahead and grabbed a cracked copy.
its a good app but theres no way in hell im paying again

flumps said:
i purchased copilot uk years ago on my G1 phone and for some reason its completely disappeared from my google account. so ive just gone ahead and grabbed a cracked copy.
its a good app but theres no way in hell im paying again
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I can beat that I bought the v8 + upgrade to full europe maps total cost £70. After trying the "FREE" version of v9 alk(copilot) has closed my v8 licence and tells me I HAVE to use v9 now.

RochiWizz said:
I can beat that I bought the v8 + upgrade to full europe maps total cost £70. After trying the "FREE" version of v9 alk(copilot) has closed my v8 licence and tells me I HAVE to use v9 now.
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pfft, thats not right at all. cheeky bastards!

Yes, I would recommend finding a different navigator... I have the full version and it has a lot of bugs and their support basically sucks... Their solution to every bug report is that there is something wrong on my side and they want me to delete everything on my phone to fix their bugs....
BTJ

xda890
Your dead right, i bought co pilot once, they totally screwed up my upgrade and then blamed me, the treated me like an idiot and took no responsability for they're software , wouldnt give me a refund, wouldn't let me migrate etc etc etc,
i urge you, all do not buy from this company
they are only money grabbers selling a bug ridden program, its almost as if they don't realise there are better alternatives out there,
i for one will never buy from them again, anyone else had similar experience with co pilot/dough pilot?
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I use Sygic Aura.
I bought Copilot 3 years ago. seldom use it.
Sygic is much better IMHO and its ''free''
http://www.gpsunderground.com

Sygic is much much better than copilot, I tried copilot when I had a 3GS Tom tom was better but for android Sygic is best I come across yet
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Not avail in india
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I bought this app for my Wm6.5 and had utterly terrible support, bad enough that I relish the opportunity to let everyone else know. They had this botched system where when you upgraded ROM you had to uninstall and deregister to be able to re-install. Needless to say the system failed and I had to jump through a million hoops to get them to give me a new activation code as if I was some kind of a criminal. Best avoided for sure.

sorry to dig up an old thread but I downloaded the free version of Copilot for my Galaxy Note running 4.1.2 Jellybean and the application doesnt open. It hangs on the splash screen and closes.
Anyone else experience this problem? Any fixes?

Go to Applications, Copilot, and then FC-Clear cache-Clear data... i did that and i dont have any problem... only once i had this problem

bluedolphin said:
Go to Applications, Copilot, and then FC-Clear cache-Clear data... i did that and i dont have any problem... only once i had this problem
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I tried that and it didnt work. I also tried a fresh install on my friends Galaxy S2 and he gets the same exact problem!
Unless there is an application or setting on the device causing it to crash? Ideally I don't want to hard reset my device.
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ceanth said:
I tried that and it didnt work. I also tried a fresh install on my friends Galaxy S2 and he gets the same exact problem!
Unless there is an application or setting on the device causing it to crash? Ideally I don't want to hard reset my device.
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Guys I got this working. It was because I had my Text to Speed service disabled. Once enabled it seems to load up just fine

LG G4 AT&T

I just walked out of my local att store. The theme settings are there unlike on Verizon but the usual flood of bloat apps are all there. It's as bad as a go phone. None would let me Uninstall and several are also unable to be disabled such as the stock Twitter app. I looked at the storage setting and a fresh G4 has over 1.2GB of apps installed with only 21GB free space.

Wait for root. And just kick them out.

Root will do it sure, but for now I'm holding off getting it. If the att model gets root that will be enough for me. Having Google play edition m7 and m8 had just spoiled me to much I guess..

Here is hoping for a root very shortly. I am due for an upgrade and it is either the G4 with root 8 wait for the new Nexus phones. Currently nothing else on the market meets my requirements, that could change of course.

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I just walked out of my local att store. The theme settings are there unlike on Verizon but the usual flood of bloat apps are all there. It's as bad as a go phone. None would let me Uninstall and several are also unable to be disabled such as the stock Twitter app. I looked at the storage setting and a fresh G4 has over 1.2GB of apps installed with only 21GB free space.
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Strange you can't disable twitter. I was able to.
I think the only things I couldn't disable were a couple LG apps. Overall, bloat isn't a big deal for me as long as it isn't using resources or draining battery.
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So why did you buy the AT&T version instead of the unlocked version if you hate bloat so much?

I didnt end up getting it, still debating on it. I only tried the demo at the AT%T store, but would think its the same as a retail one. Strange that Twitter gives an error when you select to disable it. Glad thats not the case on a retail model though.

I hate bloat and branding but settled for the ATT version because it was easier to come but and ultimately, more compatible with their network.
Every ATT app can be disabled except for their Address Book and Remote support. Really not that big of a deal.
I do hate that apps like Twitter, Uber, and Amazon get bundled in. I've never used Twitter or Uber and prefer to use Amazon's site.

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I hate bloat and branding but settled for the ATT version because it was easier to come but and ultimately, more compatible with their network.
Every ATT app can be disabled except for their Address Book and Remote support. Really not that big of a deal.
I do hate that apps like Twitter, Uber, and Amazon get bundled in. I've never used Twitter or Uber and prefer to use Amazon's site.
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Amazon is the only one of those I use, but I never understand why they put a different Amazon app preloaded on phones. I disable it and get the one from the play store.

Ordered a black leather one today. Can't wait to get it and root it. If it's half as good as my Nexus 5 that finally died, I'll be happy.

Anybody k,ow when root might find,out

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Anybody k,ow when root might find,out
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All the TAR files seem to be available now so maybe it's being worked on.

Got mine from AT&T. Seems decent so far. Looking forward to root, whenever it comes out.
Until then, I'm trying to make sense of how to best work with DNG files.

Just came from my AT&T store almost bought it but I'll wait til root is confirmed. I almost got stuck with that note 4 last year I'll never buy a phone again before it has confirmed root
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Lg G4 at&t bricked
greetings to all , I need help, my Lg g4 H810 is bricked , please can anyone help.
Ineed G4 H810 Kdz.
Thanks for any help.

I thought lollipop was supposed to fix this? Bloatware is supposed to be downloaded depending on your sim into the user app partition. But of course everyone always chooses to ignore Google guidelines
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I believe Lollipop only does that on Google devices, which ultimately, is pointless. I was excited for that aspect, too.

Sammae7 said:
I hate bloat and branding but settled for the ATT version because it was easier to come but and ultimately, more compatible with their network.
Every ATT app can be disabled except for their Address Book and Remote support. Really not that big of a deal.
I do hate that apps like Twitter, Uber, and Amazon get bundled in. I've never used Twitter or Uber and prefer to use Amazon's site.
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The international version supports AT&T's LTE bands (2, 4, 5, 17). You will probably lose VoLTE support though.

It also doesn't support band 30, AT&T's new upcoming band. AT&T version does.
Ultimately, I went for what was readily available to me.

Sep 29th - Not released yet

Anyone notice this did not show up on Amazon today as promised?

Covered already in this thread. I know it's easy to miss when there are so many threads and posts in this sub-forum!

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Covered already in this thread. I know it's easy to miss when there are so many threads and posts in this sub-forum!
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Normal,, the thread title and subject are absolutely not about the release date ....

I emailed them and this was their reply:
"Unfortunately the release for this device has been delayed a little. It should be released within the following weeks. We apologize for the long wait and appreciate your patience."

Within the following weeks is extremely vague a timeframe. It could mean 2 weeks from now, 3 weeks from now, or next week. Which one? I'm certainly not banking on next week of course. Dual SIM with good specs at good price point is why I'm still with it, disappointed and all.Still nervous about software updates considering the company's reputation.
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Maybe they are waiting for a Marshmallow release. Tgat would hedge the lack of updates issue for a year or so, but I think the odds are slim to none

I would love it if Marshmallow were the real reason, eh? I surely don't bet on it. There have been two other things cited-something about software and something about the quick chargers. So who really knows why. When it comes to updates, one thing that also counts is bugs and fixes, staying on top of things like that. Asus is decent with that with their Zenfone. In the short time I had mine, I had regular firmware updates.
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I think I'll be still getting this phone. The bang/buck is just too big to ignore.
Even if I keep it stock, I think I'll be happy.
I'd like to still use Android Pay, and I don't think anyone's found a way to use it w/ a custom ROM (I could be wrong, but I haven't seen it).
I highly doubt they're holding out for Marshmallow, that's another 3-5mos of work in all reality...

Pure XL release delay
Blu posted on their Facebook page last week that the phones are ready to ship, but that they are waiting on the phone chargers from their vendor. Also state they'll post a release date update this week.

I don't want to spend another $300 on top of this phone, but that new Windows XL phone w/ Continuum is spiffy!
1st time I thought I would want a Windows phone too...

Matty77 said:
I don't want to spend another $300 on top of this phone, but that new Windows XL phone w/ Continuum is spiffy!
1st time I thought I would want a Windows phone too...
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same and then I remember how buggy my wife's 1020 was. i actually like the OS but the apps have been subpar. gotta have those gapps.

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same and then I remember how buggy my wife's 1020 was. i actually like the OS but the apps have been subpar. gotta have those gapps.
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True that
Windows echo system and applications will just never catch up. Example black berry.
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Agreed. I switched to Windows for a little while just to test it out and while I mostly liked it, I still ultimately prefer Android. My credit union doesn't have a Windows app and the mobile browser in my Windows phone didn't work correctly on their site so I couldn't do my banking so there were some quirks. Things like that but it still was mostly a decent phone that I might still use as my second line for the time being until I can get a good dual SIM phone.I'm using a not all that great but so so Alcatel go phone right now along with my trusty Note 3.
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there is a page on Amazon now: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01612PVV8/ref=ya_st_dp_summary
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Some people on Twitter say they ordered even though the page says temporarily out of stock. we'll see what happens. . . i'm going to wait for now.

How can it be out of stock when it was never in stock? I'm holding off anyway because of an LTE concern that I brought up in another thread. I also would opt to wait until they came in stock anyway. And then if I saw that the LTE band that is missing is confirmed as not one near my house, I don't know, I MIGHT still consider this phone. I was looking forward to it delay and all until I read a review that it is missing support for an LTE band. (on both AT&T and T-Mobile for that matter. I'm on AT&T) I mean, I want proper coverage if I'm outlaying the $$$$. So then again, maybe I still would bypass it as I expect full LTE if it is being promoted as such. Will have to see how that unfolds.
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I might get this as a backup phone. If anything I'll return it if I don't like it. Amazon is the best when it comes to stuff like that.
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I already figure that I'd least get phone reception just fine, (my 4G backup Alcatel go phone on second line is serving that purpose currently just fine and isn't LTE of course) whereas on the Zenfone2 because of the second SIM only being 2G, that part did in fact make a difference and I couldn't even use the second SIM for calls. This is why I'm being fussy. I'm sure the Pure XL will give strong phone coverage so I'd probably be okay there, but I do still hold to wanting my full LTE access and I want to see if this gets addressed. I mean, I want LTE for data usage when I'm in non WIFI areas. First though this phone has to actually be out in actual use so we can find out already!
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I put my pre-order in anyway as I have been running tests on LTE bands in my area assessing the concern I have with not having Band 5 for it, and my area doesn't seem to use Band 5 anyway, so I'm willing to take the gamble. No idea though of a shipping date.
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People's phones are being shipped now of course and some have them now. Mine is now due for delivery Thursday 10/22. Gold is currently in stock. Grey is available for pre-order. No word yet on the black one.
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