[Q] Thermal throttling (HardMod) - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2144652&highlight=nexus+5
Any idea if anything like this is possible/useful in our Nexus 5?

aavvaallooss said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2144652&highlight=nexus+5
Any idea if anything like this is possible/useful in our Nexus 5?
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you can use a root file explorer(if you have root) to disable/turn off thermal throttle. the file is located in /sys/module/msm_thermal/parameters/enabled/ then change the Y to a N.

Also, kernels such as chaos or faux allow you to change the thresholds
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simms22 said:
you can use a root file explorer(if you have root) to disable/turn off thermal throttle. the file is located in /sys/module/msm_thermal/parameters/enabled/ then change the Y to a N.
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In parameters folder i don´t have enabled folder. I only have temp_threshold file (setting to 70, ºC I guess)

rootSU said:
Also, kernels such as chaos or faux allow you to change the thresholdst
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I know, thank you.
I only want to known if any improvement of hardware manufacture was done between N4 and N5.

aavvaallooss said:
In parameters folder i don´t have enabled folder. I only have temp_threshold file (setting to 70, ºC I guess)
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ah, then youre on the stock kernel, and dont have the files exposed.

simms22 said:
ah, then youre on the stock kernel, and dont have the files exposed.
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Look at my signature, I´m on Franco´s (r30. Stock parameters)

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aavvaallooss said:
I know, thank you.
I only want to known if any improvement of hardware manufacture was done between N4 and N5.
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oh, yea, hardware wise there has been an improvement. the n5 doesnt throttle as much or as hard as the n4. and thats odd that franco didnt expose the files for thermal throttle, many other kernels do.

simms22 said:
oh, yea, hardware wise there has been an improvement. the n5 doesnt throttle as much or as hard as the n4. and thats odd that franco didnt expose the files for thermal throttle, many other kernels do.
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I read that Nexus 5 still throttles a lot compared with another SnapDragon 800 SoC (Galaxy Note 3):
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/11/when-benchmarks-arent-enough-cpu-performance-in-the-nexus-5/

Yeah it does. 65-70 degrees C for frequency-core throttle respectively I believe.
I've set mine to 80-85 though that is NOT a recommendation!
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simms22 said:
you can use a root file explorer(if you have root) to disable/turn off thermal throttle. the file is located in /sys/module/msm_thermal/parameters/enabled/ then change the Y to a N.
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I am on stock kernel, tried it and then ran the antutu benchmark, at 27% the phone restarted and the N was changed to Y after booting the phone.....any idea why the phone restarted?

aavvaallooss said:
I read that Nexus 5 still throttles a lot compared with another SnapDragon 800 SoC (Galaxy Note 3):
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/11/when-benchmarks-arent-enough-cpu-performance-in-the-nexus-5/
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thats because of the code, not the device. samsung sets it up how they want it, just how google sets it up how they want it. but its not a bad thing. i run my device with throttle disabled, but i dont care about heat. if google made it not throttle, all we would be reading about is how hot the nexus 5 gets. and it gets pretty hot with throttle on!
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varuntis1993 said:
I am on stock kernel, tried it and then ran the antutu benchmark, at 27% the phone restarted and the N was changed to Y after booting the phone.....any idea why the phone restarted?
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you hit thermal shutdown. its really easy to do with antutu, even with throttle on. why did it reset it, did you save your edit or did you just change it and exit?

simms22 said:
thats because of the code, not the device. samsung sets it up how they want it, just how google sets it up how they want it. but its not a bad thing. i run my device with throttle disabled, but i dont care about heat. if google made it not throttle, all we would be reading about is how hot the nexus 5 gets. and it gets pretty hot with throttle on!
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you hit thermal shutdown. its really easy to do with antutu, even with throttle on. why did it reset it, did you save your edit or did you just change it and exit?
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I did save and exit.
edit -did it again and restarted the phone and it again changed to Y ......looks like google has done some hard coding

varuntis1993 said:
I did save and exit.
edit -did it again and restarted the phone and it again changed to Y ......looks like google has done some hard coding
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oh, i misunderstood the first time. it doesnt stick after a reboot. after a reboot you have to disable throttle again. there are kernel control apps that do it as well, i use the trinity kernel toolbox to disable thermal throttle usually(but have to disable it after every reboot).

varuntis1993 said:
restarted the phone and it again changed to Y ......looks like google has done some hard coding
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Everything in /sys "belongs" to the kernel and is set by the hardcoded values in the kernel when the system is rebooted. This is why we need to use apps or scripts to change the /sys values after (or at) boot
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simms22 said:
you can use a root file explorer(if you have root) to disable/turn off thermal throttle. the file is located in /sys/module/msm_thermal/parameters/enabled/ then change the Y to a N.
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Strange, I looked at my nexus 5 and this file is already N... I have a stock 4.4.2 with a gravity box, and it still have thermal throttle...
Somebody help me...
Thanks a lot!

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AOKP Overclocking.....

I have only one issue with AOKP, any version, and that is I can't get it to stop overclocking my Verizon Galaxy S III to 1620 MHz. I've tried all settings when it comes to the Governor and IO scheduler and it stays at 1620. Is there anything I can do to keep that at the stock 1512 MHz? I know it isn't a big jump but I don't want the overclock at all to save my CPU in the long run. So if anyone has any helpful information on this it would be very helpful, thank you.
-Nick
downlaod the app setcpu
set to where you want
click the on boot button
apply
win.
please remember to post in the correct forums!
you could also ask questions in the AOKP thread. located below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1842971
ddurandSGS3 said:
downlaod the app setcpu
set to where you want
click the on boot button
apply
win.
please remember to post in the correct forums!
you could also ask questions in the AOKP thread. located below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1842971
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I'm sorry, I was directed here by another senior member. I've tried setcpu and others and they don't work either.
Be sure set on boot is enabled
Metalhead520 said:
I'm sorry, I was directed here by another senior member. I've tried setcpu and others and they don't work either.
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been using setcpu on m1 since the hour it came out without any issues.
make sure you click the option to set on boot.

Modified Apps NOT working in ART

Apps Modified with Apktool v2 Beta 7 are not Working in ART....
Is there any Solution for this ?
laura almeida said:
Apps Modified with Apktool v2 Beta 7 are not Working in ART....
Is there any Solution for this ?
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Did they work before using APKTool? Are they mention in this list as "not working"?
Primokorn said:
Did they work before using APKTool? Are they mention in this list as "not working"?
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Yes they were working perfectly fine....
laura almeida said:
Yes they were working perfectly fine....
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Did you sign the apk files? Do you manage to install them on your device?
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Did you sign the apk files? Do you manage to install them on your device?
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Yes i Signed these Apps.
Yes i was managed to Install them
Yes It is still working Dalvik
When i switched to ART, it says Unfortunately it is not working
find solution now?
i got the same problem
laura almeida said:
Yes i Signed these Apps.
Yes i was managed to Install them
Yes It is still working Dalvik
When i switched to ART, it says Unfortunately it is not working
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what kind of modifications?
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thenobol said:
what kind of modifications?
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Mostly xml Modifications
ART itself is still very much experimental
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only messed with apks once, but I noticed not all the files in the apk I was messing with were compressed to the same level..
I had to add one separately with 0 compression to make the apk the similar size as the original. for some reason I was being anal about it at the time... just a thought
meangreenie said:
only messed with apks once, but I noticed not all the files in the apk I was messing with were compressed to the same level..
I had to add one separately with 0 compression to make the apk the similar size as the original. for some reason I was being anal about it at the time... just a thought
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I always compare's the compression level with the original apk...
Almost all time the size of modified apk and original apk matches (maybe with a difference less than 1 mb)
rootSU said:
ART itself is still very much experimental
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Are you saying that i should not play around with ART ?
Should i just wait for a more stable release of ART ?
laura almeida said:
Are you saying that i should not play around with ART ?
Should i just wait for a more stable release of ART ?
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That's up to you. Just bear in mind that as its experimental, not everything works so don't waste too much time trying to get something working that may simply be down to a problem with ART
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laura almeida said:
Mostly xml Modifications
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ok, art depends on precompiling code emlements, which means, eg. if you edit the layout files, it can be possible that the precompiled data leads to the force closes - especially dynamically created views, can be a killing options :/
thenobol said:
if you edit the layout files, it can be possible that the precompiled data leads to the force closes
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Where is this Precompiled data located in ?
I tried wiping data,cache,dalvik-cache Still the problem exist..
Does this issue somehow related with classes.dex ?
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That's up to you. Just bear in mind that as its experimental, not everything works so don't waste too much time trying to get something working that may simply be down to a problem with ART
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hum...
I should better stick with dalvik.
laura almeida said:
hum...
I should better stick with dalvik.
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There's no reason to switch, since now you can get the same speed with this. I flashed the mods on my N5 and N7 and have noticed a considerable increase in speed on both devices.
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PhilipTD said:
There's no reason to switch, since now you can get the same speed with this
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Thank you so Much
I will surely try
laura almeida said:
Where is this Precompiled data located in ?
I tried wiping data,cache,dalvik-cache Still the problem exist..
Does this issue somehow related with classes.dex ?
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dalvik and art are two independent runtimes, both implemented in android since 4.4.0. the dalvik machine uses .dex files, in a small kind of "precompiled". wiping the dalvik cache only deletes dalvik related files, like the .dex files.
for art, sorry i dont know where they are located or how they are made :/
maybe try to install the modified app in dalvik, and then switch to art, so the data of the app i new compiled.
can you post a logcat?
take a look here, it seems similar problem...
maybe invalid package error?
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=61916
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2027663
you can switch to dalvik, delete the apps data in /data/data ..., install the modded apk and switch to art again

[Q]Malicious Looking "Search" App Installed In System

I have attached a picture of a search app that looks malicious should I be worried about this?
This is the old Google quicksearchbox
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This is the old Google quicksearchbox
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Should it be on my phone? Its installed in /System ?
Dogie52 said:
Should it be on my phone? Its installed in /System ?
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Yes, nothing to be worried about.
Chromium_ said:
Yes, nothing to be worried about.
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Alright thanks I just thought it was odd it was never removed it's outdated
Even when I remove the app it just comes back like it can't be uninstalled with TB
Dogie52 said:
Even when I remove the app it just comes back like it can't be uninstalled with TB
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If you want to remove it delete manually from /system/app with a root file explorer.
Chromium_ said:
If you want to remove it delete manually from /system/app with a root file explorer.
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That worked just about to post my question now is though does anyone else have this app on there phone?
Dogie52 said:
That worked just about to post my question now is though does anyone else have this app on there phone?
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Yes Ive had it in the past, but I always delete it. I think its part of the gapps package.
Chromium_ said:
Yes Ive had it in the past, but I always delete it. I think its part of the gapps package.
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Speedtest App Force Close

Speedtest app fails to open. Error message: "Unfortunately, Speedtest has stopped".
Logcat
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Might be worth telling the dev of the app rather than asking here...
Presume you cleared data on the app? Made any changes since it last worked?
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rootSU said:
Presume you cleared data on the app? Made any changes since it last worked?
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Thanks for your response. Yes, I cleared the Speedtest app's data, uninstalled/re-installed, and cleared cache and Dalvik in recovery.
EDIT: The only thing I remember doing since it last worked is to test an app called Android Tuner. I ended up uninstalling it.
BTW, I also fixed permissions.
Have you frozen anything? Or changed any location things?
Mine still works so its not an update
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rootSU said:
Have you frozen anything? Or changed any location things?
Mine still works so its not an update
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I just defrosted everything and tried to run the app, but, apparently, that's not the problem.
I don't think I changed the location of any files, if that is, in fact, what you mean. If you mean location, as in geographic, no, I don't think that I have changed anything either in that regard.
BTW, Did I create and post the logcat correctly? I had never done it before. Thanks
PhilipTD said:
Speedtest app fails to open. Error message: "Unfortunately, Speedtest has stopped".
Logcat
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Did use use any permissions manager?
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Did use use any permissions manager?
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Negative
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Are you running the latest version of Speed test? The was a recent version that FC'd on the Nexus5 but the current version seems to run.
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Are you running the latest version of Speed test? The was a recent version that FC'd on the Nexus5 but the current version seems to run.
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The one on the Play Store.
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Any other ideas out there?
Thanks
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Any other ideas out there?
Thanks
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I'm runnung Versin 3.0.3 (small print at bottom of settings page -- no longer any problems.
stevemw said:
I'm runnung Versin 3.0.3 (small print at bottom of settings page -- no longer any problems.
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Thanks. That's the version I'm trying to use.
There must be some problem data hidden somewhere.
PhilipTD said:
Thanks. That's the version I'm trying to use.
There must be some problem data hidden somewhere.
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Cleared cache?
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Cleared cache?
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Yup.
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Yup.
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One last try -- HSPA[+] or LTE?
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Try the FCC speed test: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samknows.fcc
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You know, I may have stopped getting errors from Speedtest when I switched to the ART runtime.

[Q&A] [KERNEL][CAF][SaberMod] [3.4.104] Tyr V26

Q&A for [KERNEL][CAF][SaberMod] [3.4.104] Tyr V26
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Grteat!!
Great Kernel...latest version brought back warm screen which I like most.
Keep up the good work, cheers!!
Hasan_bd said:
Great Kernel...latest version brought back warm screen which I like most.
Keep up the good work, cheers!!
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Yeah that was a feature from ak. You can control colors with synapse if you want.
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Yeah that was a feature from ak. You can control colors with synapse if you want.
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Thanks, I tried Synapse but don't know why it looked so complicated to me
I am using "Devil Kernel Manager" right now and it looks solid.
I will give synapse another try later
Tyr v29 with the f2fs slimKat rom so far 10 hours while still able to check email and play a bit of boom beach 78% right now took a few calls and xda too. Using intelliactive with the multi core power save and the MSM hotplug with default settings. And default gpu settings. Great kernel work here. BTW for those who asked about ART and xpossed it seemed to work for me.
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ART is not kernel related. Should work with every kernel.
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nice
Nice kernel! it works well with rycon cm12 build
kernel
this is the best kernel for cm12 unofficial.. keep up the good work
UKM
Guys I can't seem to find the UKM to use with this kernel.
I've searched on the OP then throughout the threat.
Can anyone please help or just give an hint?
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Guys I can't seem to find the UKM to use with this kernel.
I've searched on the OP then throughout the threat.
Can anyone please help or just give an hint?
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Use Google. Type that : ukm + synapse
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Fastcharge doesn't work for me, from 70+, I takes 3+ hours to charge, is fine on AK. Maybe something drains it on this kernel, dunno.
WilderSu said:
Fastcharge doesn't work for me, from 70+, I takes 3+ hours to charge, is fine on AK. Maybe something drains it on this kernel, dunno.
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I use exactly the same source code for fast charge like ak is using.
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Hasan_bd said:
Thanks, I tried Synapse but don't know why it looked so complicated to me
I am using "Devil Kernel Manager" right now and it looks solid.
I will give synapse another try later
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Synapse actually does a really good job of explaining what each feature or control does. It looks daunting, but once you get into it, it's not that scary
what´s better for battery life, impulse? smartassv2? or yankActive?
thanks!!!
donmargarito said:
what´s better for battery life, impulse? smartassv2? or yankActive?
thanks!!!
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You'd have to try them all, and I think you'd get different results with each hotplug/governor combination.
Impulse, yank, nightmare, and zzmove all seem to be well balanced to me. Google them for details on how they work.
awesome kernel
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love this kernel
hello sorry if i asked a noob question, but can you show me where to download V103 of this kernel?
cause the link in front is for V102
thankss
Thanks for your work! I'm new to kernels but have flashed zips and basic stuffs before. I'm on CM12 nightlies, which version of Tyr should I use?
where is the link for cm11
Flapping Machine said:
where is the link for cm11
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Does not work on cm11
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Thanks for your work! I'm new to kernels but have flashed zips and basic stuffs before. I'm on CM12 nightlies, which version of Tyr should I use?
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