I was just curious if anyone knew or has a link that would show how the relay has sold (units) worldwide? Especially versus other phones. I ask this because my hunch is that initially sales were slow for this phone, but I'm willing to bet sales have doubled or tripled since being offered to other countries.
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chuckiev79 said:
I was just curious if anyone knew or has a link that would show how the relay has sold (units) worldwide? Especially versus other phones. I ask this because my hunch is that initially sales were slow for this phone, but I'm willing to bet sales have doubled or tripled since being offered to other countries.
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And I have goggled this to no avail. ?
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And I have goggled this to no avail. ?
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This is the kind of data you never get... Manufacturers are more interested in doing curved-screen phones that nobody wants than having a single qwerty model.
I'm in Europe, where there haven't been new qwerty models for 2-3 years now, and I get people asking my about my phone all the time. There is a market, manufacturers just don't care...
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This is the kind of data you never get... Manufacturers are more interested in doing curved-screen phones that nobody wants than having a single qwerty model.
I'm in Europe, where there haven't been new qwerty models for 2-3 years now, and I get people asking my about my phone all the time. There is a market, manufacturers just don't care...
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This. A 100x this. I'm still rocking my Epic 4G for now, and I still get people asking me about my phone, what is it, where I got it from, etc. And I'm talking both here in the US and in Mexico. There is a market for it. I think the manufacturers, instead of listening to what consumers want, are trying to steer consumers in a certain direction. But if there was a keyboard version of the Galaxy S4 or Note 3 (and not some crappy bluetooth addon), I'd figure out a way to buy it asap, and so would a lot of other people.
But to answer the thread, that's a good question and something I've been wondering myself. This seems like a great mid-range phone.
I just got mine for $160 new on ebay, so I'm guessing the demand for the phone wasn't as big as they were hoping (it came in a sketchy opened Samsung box with no manual so it may actually be a refurb but still I'd say it should be selling for more than that since it's not that old). Kind of depressing because so far it seems like a really nice phone, aside from all the bloatware it comes with stock. Just really irritating how all the new phones coming out are pretty much all the same - thin touchscreen only phones with slightly varying sizes and specs.
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I just got mine for $160 new on ebay, so I'm guessing the demand for the phone wasn't as big as they were hoping (it came in a sketchy opened Samsung box with no manual so it may actually be a refurb but still I'd say it should be selling for more than that since it's not that old). Kind of depressing because so far it seems like a really nice phone, aside from all the bloatware it comes with stock. Just really irritating how all the new phones coming out are pretty much all the same - thin touchscreen only phones with slightly varying sizes and specs.
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Agreed.
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I'm in the market for a new phone and sadly I feel as though my QWERTY reign may come to an end. I've owned just about every gsm qwerty phone over the past 3 years and there's absolutely nothing to choose from anymore.
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I'm in the market for a new phone and sadly I feel as though my QWERTY reign may come to an end. I've owned just about every gsm qwerty phone over the past 3 years and there's absolutely nothing to choose from anymore.
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I feel your pain. I've come to the conclusion that the Relay 4G may be the last qwerty phone I ever get myself. The only thing that can be done now is to develop a decent bluetooth keyboard/case, similar to what is available for the Galaxy S4.
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QWERTY isn't completely dead yet... T-Mobile is now offering LG's F3Q. That being said, I'd love to see a true high-end QWERTY, but I'm not holding my breath.
I saw that, but its got almost the same specs as the relay, droid 4, and the photon q. ?
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QWERTY isn't completely dead yet... T-Mobile is now offering LG's F3Q.
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I'm not crazy about the color (blue? ), but otherwise that seems pretty cool. I'll keep my eye on it. Looks like it will come out tomorrow.
That being said, I'd love to see a true high-end QWERTY, but I'm not holding my breath.
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I saw that, but its got almost the same specs as the relay, droid 4, and the photon q. ?
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Yeah I doubt we'll ever get a keyboard phone as powerful as an S4 or Note 3. That's why I think the answer is to make bluetooth keyboard peripherals. Though at least mid-range (i.e. affordable) keyboard phones aren't completely going away. I'm guessing the LG F3Q will be the new standard barer for [GSM] keyboard phones.
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I saw that, but its got almost the same specs as the relay, droid 4, and the photon q. ?
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It has a huge battery. specs look great. What most people don't realize is the specs have far exceeded our needs for some time now. So even a "basic" dual core is more than you'll ever need
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It has a huge battery. specs look great. What most people don't realize is the specs have far exceeded our needs for some time now. So even a "basic" dual core is more than you'll ever need
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I have the non-QWERTY F3, and the battery is amazing indeed. Even if I use the phone fairly heavily, it's rare for me to see the battery below 50% at the end of the day, and I often see it over 75%. It puts the lie to the whole "we can't put a big enough battery in it and make it replaceable" schtick that we keep getting from the likes of Motorola and Apple. I will not buy a phone with a non-replaceable battery.
The only real negative for the F3 is that it has very limited internal flash, but it does at least have a MicroSD slot. Some apps can be moved to the SD card, but others have the "Move to SD" button grayed out. My guess is that apps that (may) run services at startup can't be moved.
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It has a huge battery. specs look great. What most people don't realize is the specs have far exceeded our needs for some time now. So even a "basic" dual core is more than you'll ever need
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actually, the only thing i really dislike and would like to improve in relay is the terrible screen resolution. still, it was not enough to convince me to buy galaxy s4 with this keyboard
i wonder why samsung did not make a decent bluetooth/nfc keyboard for galaxy s4. many people would buy it and buy s4 - double profit at half cost
lg f3q - apart from the battery, specs are not really an improvement from samsung relay and the same terrible screen resolution. unimpressive
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lg f3q - apart from the battery, specs are not really an improvement from samsung relay and the same terrible screen resolution. unimpressive
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Actually there are improvements, just not as obvious ones.
The F3Q compared to the Relay has:
Bigger battery
Physically smaller size (even though screen is the same size)
Better graphics
Bluetooth 4.0
Better camera (supports 1080p)
Newer generation processor
Dual band wifi
And of course newer and shinier
These are all small differences alone, but they add up to a decent upgrade.
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Actually there are improvements, just not as obvious ones.
The F3Q compared to the Relay has:
Bigger battery
Physically smaller size (even though screen is the same size)
Better graphics
Bluetooth 4.0
Better camera (supports 1080p)
Newer generation processor
Dual band wifi
And of course newer and shinier
These are all small differences alone, but they add up to a decent upgrade.
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1080p is a big deal. I can't find anything about internal memory, though, but I would assume its at least the same as the Relay 4G.
Like I said, this may be the new standard barer for keyboard cell phones. Just wish it came in black.
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Actually there are improvements, just not as obvious ones.
The F3Q compared to the Relay has:
Bigger battery
Physically smaller size (even though screen is the same size)
Better graphics
Bluetooth 4.0
Better camera (supports 1080p)
Newer generation processor
Dual band wifi
And of course newer and shinier
These are all small differences alone, but they add up to a decent upgrade
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cpu&gpu - i do not have enough data to directly compare msm8260a (relay) to msm8930 (f3g ? ). still, without bigger resolution the improvement may be difficult to notice. lower energy consumption maybe?
camera - i do not really care
bluetooth, wifi and battery are an improvement, but with the appalling 480x800 not enough to encourage me to upgrade.
improvement, yes, but still not impressive.
We're supporting Bluetooth 4.0 and upgraded wifi on CyanogenMod. The only thing that in my mind stands out about the F3Q is the better gpu, not for performance's sake (at 480x800 it's not gonna make much of a difference) but the fact that qcom is barely supporting the old gpu anymore (the drivers we're using on CyanogenMod are 9 months old, badly outdated)
The other thing is the F3Q is reputed to only have 1 gig of free internal storage (as opposed to 5 gigs on the Relay)
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We're supporting Bluetooth 4.0 and upgraded wifi on CyanogenMod. The only thing that in my mind stands out about the F3Q is the better gpu, not for performance's sake (at 480x800 it's not gonna make much of a difference) but the fact that qcom is barely supporting the old gpu anymore (the drivers we're using on CyanogenMod are 9 months old, badly outdated)
The other thing is the F3Q is reputed to only have 1 gig of free internal storage (as opposed to 5 gigs on the Relay)
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Ah ok. Yeah Internal Storage is a big deal, even with an SD Card. Thanks for putting things in perspective.
What happened to the F3Q launch?
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It's basically an InFuSe with a dual-core 1.2 instead of single-core 1.2.
Who the hell is T-Mobile f*ckin to get all these bad @ss fones lately???Samsung Hercules Headed to T-Mobile this September?
If the latest reports are accurate we might be seeing the Samsung Hercules land over on T-Mobile this September. If the HTC Sensation or the recently troubled G2x dual-core phones aren’t what you desire maybe the Hercules will be, it has great specs to back it up.
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In case you haven’t heard the Samsung Hercules could very well be the Galaxy S II variant for T-Mobile, with a boosted screen size hitting 4.5″ and looking beautiful with that AMOLED display. We haven’t seen much of Hercules as of late but he could have recently passed through the FCC.
The Samsung Hercules specs if to be believed feature that 4.5″ AMOLED display, Android 2.3 Gingerbread with NFC support. Reports suggesting a Qualcomm 1.2GHz dual-core processor, 16GB storage and 1GB RAM, loaded with a 8MP rear camera as well as a front VGA all topped off with some T-Mobile 4G speeds. Sounds perfect if I don’t say so myself. With recent reports about carriers and Samsung not able to agree to a Galaxy S II launch the Hercules will just have to make do, but I’m not complaining.
[via TmoNews]
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well..... thats electronics for ya, by the time you buy it your already looking at the next best thing. I kinda knew that samsung would throw out a dual core phone but I really didnt care, after having the atrix it proved it to me. The infuse is far far far from the "shyt" end of the stick, I still love mine and I have absolutely never went, "man I wish this was faster". Its perfect for me, but thanks for the info
I fail to see how we got the "shyt" end of the stick.
One, this is all rumor with little validity to back it up.
Two, there is more evidence that the Samsung Galaxy II is facing a large amount of hardship coming to the states due to there being:
- A plethora of "flagship" dual core phones on the providors (Atrix, Sensation/G2X, Droid 3/Bionic)
- It is a VERY LARGE subsidization compared to past cellphones
- Samsung themselves have come clean that they ar facing opposition from providors.
And lastly, welcome to technology. The Infuse came out May 15 which means from now to September that's 5-6 months depending on when it is actually released. 6 months is over a year in technology, especially when there were ALREADY dual core phones on the market when the Infuse 4G came out.
Just my 2 cents.
skillz9669 said:
well..... thats electronics for ya, by the time you buy it your already looking at the next best thing. I kinda knew that samsung would throw out a dual core phone but I really didnt care, after having the atrix it proved it to me. The infuse is far far far from the "shyt" end of the stick, I still love mine and I have absolutely never went, "man I wish this was faster". Its perfect for me, but thanks for the info
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I agree.. I knew there would be newer handsets dropping soon, but the Infuse does what I need it to do..
I do not have an Infuse but was looking at the display model at AT&T yesterday. The crisp, deep colors and the sharpness of the display is stunningly amazing. The best display I have personally ever seen on a phone without a doubt. That said, I no longer am buying into thinking that dual core is better. Why?
I recently sold my Asus Transformer which I am sure you are all somewhat familiar with the specs. Although it is an impressive device with an incredible display, it could not play 1080p content for crap! My Samsung Galaxy Tab (single core OC'd to 1.2 currently) plays my ripped blu-rays like a champ! No lag or jitter whatsoever.
I did not intend to hijack your thread with information about tabs, but I believe they use the same processors as the phones so what I posted I think is relevant.
If the phone you have or want does what you need it to do, then don't worry about what's coming out next month and don't feel hosed.
The Asus did not do what I needed it to do, but that is not why I got rid of it. I prefer the 7" form factor.
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I agree.. I knew there would be newer handsets dropping soon, but the Infuse does what I need it to do..
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+1
I have mine under clocked to 800 and it still kicks ass with no lag.
this was already posted a while back. and i really think that qualcomm processor is a mistake. no way samsung is going to use that.
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I do not have an Infuse but was looking at the display model at AT&T yesterday. The crisp, deep colors and the sharpness of the display is stunningly amazing. The best display I have personally ever seen on a phone without a doubt. That said, I no longer am buying into thinking that dual core is better. Why?
I recently sold my Asus Transformer which I am sure you are all somewhat familiar with the specs. Although it is an impressive device with an incredible display, it could not play 1080p content for crap! My Samsung Galaxy Tab (single core OC'd to 1.2 currently) plays my ripped blu-rays like a champ! No lag or jitter whatsoever.
I did not intend to hijack your thread with information about tabs, but I believe they use the same processors as the phones so what I posted I think is relevant.
If the phone you have or want does what you need it to do, then don't worry about what's coming out next month and don't feel hosed.
The Asus did not do what I needed it to do, but that is not why I got rid of it. I prefer the 7" form factor.
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Video playback is not about the CPU on mobile devices, it's about the GPU. Anything that falls back on the CPU to do work is going to perform poorly. For media supported by a GPU, the CPU does almost no work at all.
It happens that the GPU of Samsung Hummingbirds has some very impressive features (one of the only devices I know of to support H.264 Main Profile and I think even High Profile) which make it awesome for media.
Nvidia apparently focused on 3D with the Tegra and not so much on media, so they, like iDevices, only support H.264 Baseline Profile.
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I have mine under clocked to 800 and it still kicks ass with no lag.
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I always wondered about doing this as well.
When you underclock the processor there is less battery drain, and less heat than when it's running @ 1.2ghz right?
People have said that the Infuses heat causes the screen to shut down the brightness which this would help with right?
I know the iPhone 4 has a 1ghz processor that is underclocked to 800mghz as well and it gets fantastic battery life.
Entropy512 said:
Video playback is not about the CPU on mobile devices, it's about the GPU. Anything that falls back on the CPU to do work is going to perform poorly. For media supported by a GPU, the CPU does almost no work at all.
It happens that the GPU of Samsung Hummingbirds has some very impressive features (one of the only devices I know of to support H.264 Main Profile and I think even High Profile) which make it awesome for media.
Nvidia apparently focused on 3D with the Tegra and not so much on media, so they, like iDevices, only support H.264 Baseline Profile.
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Thanks for the clarification!
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When you underclock the processor there is less battery drain, and less heat than when it's running @ 1.2ghz right?
People have said that the Infuses heat causes the screen to shut down the brightness which this would help with right?
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Yes. It does. It reduces the heat generated when running at lower speeds. But pushing to too low levels increases the amount of time CPU spends at 100% and causing more heat.
After some experimenting, I found 800 to be a safe bet.
The Infuse will be severely obsolete long before it's time for most people to upgrade.
It's certainly not a good investment.
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I fail to see how we got the "shyt" end of the stick.
Just my 2 cents.
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I guess you guys are right cause the development is BOOOOMING for our beloved Infuse. There are just too many devs pluggin away at the infuse i cant keep up with all these roms!
Like i said, Shyt End of the stick, actually at this rate we didnt even get that much...
PS: about the only thing the InFuSe has going for it right now is a decent commercial.
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I guess you guys are right cause the development is BOOOOMING for our beloved Infuse. There are just too many devs pluggin away at the infuse i cant keep up with all these roms!
Like i said, Shyt End of the stick, actually at this rate we didnt even get that much...
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Real question: Why isn't the Infuse as popular as the HTC HD2? Hell even two years after it came out they just ported over WP7 and Mango
Seems to me like the best phone on Att so why are there so few people/developers getting it?
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I guess you guys are right cause the development is BOOOOMING for our beloved Infuse. There are just too many devs pluggin away at the infuse i cant keep up with all these roms!
Like i said, Shyt End of the stick, actually at this rate we didnt even get that much...
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This particular topic was covered in MULTIPLE threads already. The reason development has slowed down is due to Gingerbread not being available yet. The devs don't see a reason to develop further at this point, only to have to redo everything once Gingerbread is available. Once Gingerbread is released for Infuse in Canada (which should be soon), I'm sure you will see plenty of development for this phone. Be patient.
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The Infuse will be severely obsolete long before it's time for most people to upgrade.
It's certainly not a good investment.
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Any piece of technology is obsolete from the moment you buy it.
The Infuse is a perfectly fine investment, it's a great device.
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The Infuse will be severely obsolete long before it's time for most people to upgrade.
It's certainly not a good investment.
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Pretty much everyone phone will be obsolete by time you're ready to upgrade. There really isn't a way to win with phones, there will always be something better coming out shortly after you get any phone. It's best to just pick the best phone that is currently out and just stick with it; there is no point in beating yourself up about getting a ****ty phone when even if you were to wait and get a different phone, that too would be outdated within a few months.
Sometimes you just need to pull the trigger and grab something, otherwise you'll never get anything.
When I was looking to upgrade my poor little LG shine (yes, stoopid phone) I researched and researched until my eyes bled. I bounced about 100 times between devices until I finally just went to a friend of mine's store and played with the Droid X. Sure, at the time there were better options out there, but for whatever reason, the phone just felt right to me.
The same thing goes for this Infuse that I have for work. I just got it on Friday and I know that there are faster phones already out and there will always be new phones coming out that makes any tech savvy person positively drool at the prospect of playing with it. As the post above me says, you just have to grab a device and go with it, and that's true; oh so true. You can get so wrapped up in looking at specs and reading about the new hotness, but in the end, you will wind up so conflicted with yourself that you can't make an honest choice about what you want.
Then again, who knows. I'm not your typical modder. I rooted the phone within the first ten minutes of having it, and I flashed my first ROM to it this morning. I'm the type of modder that doesn't feel the need to go grab the latest and greatest as long as I've found my "phone bliss" at the moment.
Main thing you need to take away from this thread- Technology is forever changing and buying any piece of technology isn't about nabbing the latest and greatest piece of hardware. The smart buyers grab what they know/think will last and can be tweaked to keep up with new software and uses for some time. Hell, I've got an HTC Eris on my desk at work that I know is OLD, but it's still a valid little phone and can keep up with most other phones of it kind.
Just buy what you like and don't get so wrapped up about what tomorrow will bring.
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When I was looking to upgrade my poor little LG shine (yes, stoopid phone)....
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Ha, I upgraded from an LG Shine to my current phone (Infuse). You have to admit though, the Shine wasn't a bad little phone ... I had it for about 3 years. But I'll tell you, going to the Infuse was a HUGE upgrade!
With that being said, I'll be perfectly happy with my Infuse until it's time to upgrade again. I definitely don't feel I got the "shyt" end of the stick.
Here is why I love my G2x OVER the Galaxy Nexus
1) I have this phone on a two year contract
2) HDMI Port, as small as it is, I don't want to use a dongle or any crap thing like that to hook up my phone as an hdmi output
2) Micro SD Card. They didn't mention it....and I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung left this out.....such as the Galaxy Tab 10.1
3) 8MP Camera, the camera on the G2x is SOLID. If LG could just get their as*es in gear and get this working fully on a new Ice Cream Sandwich rom.
4) The Nexus is better only because of the Super AMOLED and Ice Cream Sandwich. I personally can live without the AMOLED and I know for a fact if LG doesn't update to Ice Cream Sandwich that the Awesome Devs here will.
First person that has a full working ICS rom for the G2x I am donating too, and I would suggest others do as well, This is how we keep the G2x on top.
The G2x is a BEAST.....And I love that I picked this phone.
Thanks to all the support from the Devs, can't wait to see the wicked work you guys put into this next generation of Android.
If LG was smart they would get a beta test of Ice Cream Sandwich out on this phone like yesterday. This phone can take on the NExUS
What's all of your thoughts? Still glad you have the G2x? Think it's better than the Nexus?
@wcbales
wbales said:
Here is why I love my G2x OVER the Galaxy Nexus
1) I have this phone on a two year contract
2) HDMI Port, as small as it is, I don't want to use a dongle or any crap thing like that to hook up my phone as an hdmi output
2) Micro SD Card. They didn't mention it....and I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung left this out.....such as the Galaxy Tab 10.1
3) 8MP Camera, the camera on the G2x is SOLID. If LG could just get their as*es in gear and get this working fully on a new Ice Cream Sandwich rom.
4) The Nexus is better only because of the Super AMOLED and Ice Cream Sandwich. I personally can live without the AMOLED and I know for a fact if LG doesn't update to Ice Cream Sandwich that the Awesome Devs here will.
First person that has a full working ICS rom for the G2x I am donating too, and I would suggest others do as well, This is how we keep the G2x on top.
The G2x is a BEAST.....And I love that I picked this phone.
Thanks to all the support from the Devs, can't wait to see the wicked work you guys put into this next generation of Android.
If LG was smart they would get a beta test of Ice Cream Sandwich out on this phone like yesterday. This phone can take on the NExUS
What's all of your thoughts? Still glad you have the G2x? Think it's better than the Nexus?
@wcbales
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Your reasoning is slightly retarded
1- you should love when ur not on contract...keeps options open.
2- really? 16-32 gb is plenty especially with cloud based services on the horizon
3-wow....samsung makes some of the best cameras on mobiles. MP don't determine everything...
4- amoled....isp close enough for me.....but without source ICS might be tough
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Your reasoning is slightly retarded
1- you should love when ur not on contract...keeps options open.
2- really? 16-32 gb is plenty especially with cloud based services on the horizon
3-wow....samsung makes some of the best cameras on mobiles. MP don't determine everything...
4- amoled....isp close enough for me.....but without source ICS might be tough
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32gb is less than my g2x. i have a 100GB music collection and i'd like to take as much with me as possible; g2x has onboard storage (4GB? 8GB?) on top of my 32GB card. 8GB makes a huge difference, especially when there will likely be no expandable memory.
true, MP doesn't mean everything. but isn't this very similar, if not basically the same camera as the nexus s? even if the camera performs well, i think it's a little cheap to not give it a 3MP bump to 8MP.
Cool 100gb of music.....if your not using spotify to stream amd trying to put 100gb of mudic on a mobile your an idiot.....true the bump in the cam would be nice...but if they had to squeeze a smaller sensor to pack in all the other goodies then ill take it...
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Cool 100gb of music.....if your not using spotify to stream amd trying to put 100gb of mudic on a mobile your an idiot.....true the bump in the cam would be nice...but if they had to squeeze a smaller sensor to pack in all the other goodies then ill take it...
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Streaming and cloud services are great...
Except every US carrier except Sprint limits your data usage and Sprint quite possibly is going to as well.
Smallsmx3 said:
Cool 100gb of music.....if your not using spotify to stream amd trying to put 100gb of mudic on a mobile your an idiot.....true the bump in the cam would be nice...but if they had to squeeze a smaller sensor to pack in all the other goodies then ill take it...
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if you're going to try to call me an idiot, please do so with proper grammar. it's a bit hard to take you seriously when you can't even present yourself intelligibly.
clearly, i don't put 100GB of music on my mobile; it was merely an example. the GN skimped on storage, plain and simple. the iPhone gets a lot of flack for being slightly behind the technological curve but even now, it's offered in 64GB. why is this not the same? a bit lacking if you ask me. android phones have come out and absolutely destroyed the iPhone's specifications. i expected a lot more from google and samsung if this was truly going to be a revolutionary phone. it's clearly not.
also, an 8MP sensor is barely larger than a 5MP sensor; that's far from a reasonable excuse for not including it, especially considering how huge the handset is. with EU prices announced, the intention clearly wasn't to make the smartphone cheap. this is the new flagship device for the entire android platform- i can't be alone in being disappointed.
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if you're going to try to call me an idiot, please do so with proper grammar. it's a bit hard to take you seriously when you can't even present yourself intelligibly.
clearly, i don't put 100GB of music on my mobile; it was merely an example. the GN skimped on storage, plain and simple. the iPhone gets a lot of flack for being slightly behind the technological curve but even now, it's offered in 64GB. why is this not the same? a bit lacking if you ask me. android phones have come out and absolutely destroyed the iPhone's specifications. i expected a lot more from google and samsung if this was truly going to be a revolutionary phone. it's clearly not.
also, an 8MP sensor is barely larger than a 5MP sensor; that's far from a reasonable excuse for not including it, especially considering how huge the handset is. with EU prices announced, the intention clearly wasn't to make the smartphone cheap. this is the new flagship device for the entire android platform- i can't be alone in being disappointed.
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IMO, the Nexus S and the Galaxy Nexus were intentionally gimped by Samsung in order to sell their own, Touchwiz based handsets instead.
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+1. IMO your main reason is money. Cos clearly, the next Nexus will probably be thee best phone in the market once its released. I bet if you had the money to buy the Galaxy Nexus you wouldn't say that about the G2x.
And yes i do love my G2X but Technology is way too fast to keep up with...so there will always be better phones than our beloved G2X.
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Except every US carrier except Sprint limits your data usage and Sprint quite possibly is going to as well.
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I doubt that, unlimited data is pretty much their only selling point at the moment.
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Don't u all think the nexus should have beafier hardware? To me, I think the prime isn't any better than the sg2!
I was hoping for something strong enough to really slap apples iPhone 4s out but we will see.
As far as this g2x versus a prime?
Prime I would love to have cuz its faster and more than likely gonna get all the updates in the word
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Here is why I love my G2x OVER the Galaxy Nexus
1) I have this phone on a two year contract I buy off contract
2) HDMI Port, as small as it is, I don't want to use a dongle or any crap thing like that to hook up my phone as an hdmi output HDMI port on my G2x feels like it's gonna break off you have to shove the plug in so hard, and slight movement causes it to cut out. Neither T-Mobile or LG will do anything...but HDMI out is great on other phones
2) Micro SD Card. They didn't mention it....and I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung left this out.....such as the Galaxy Tab 10.1 I've never added storage beyond an 8gb card...most of my streaming is on wi-fi, and if data use is really that big a deal I can tether to my Sprint lines...at this point the cloud is where it's at
3) 8MP Camera, the camera on the G2x is SOLID. If LG could just get their as*es in gear and get this working fully on a new Ice Cream Sandwich rom. G2x camera is great, but if the sensor is even higher quality on the GN I can deal with a MP drop...
4) The Nexus is better only because of the Super AMOLED and Ice Cream Sandwich. I personally can live without the AMOLED and I know for a fact if LG doesn't update to Ice Cream Sandwich that the Awesome Devs here will. 1280x720 4.6" SAMOLED....uhhhh....no phone will even compare after seeing that screen. I bought a GS2 for pretty much the screen alone, and this is even better. 480x800 is annoying after using qHD, after using GN it will be going from a CinemaDisplay to a netbook. ICS looks amazing
@wcbales
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Gotta say, i dont agree. GN is a worthy upgrade based on the 4.6" 1280x720 curved screen alone. But besides that...lack of physical buttons will rock, NFC will be cool in the future, it's thin and big at the same time...honestly, what more could you want? This pretty much epitomizes the current generation of phones. I can't wait to get mine.
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Don't u all think the nexus should have beafier hardware? To me, I think the prime isn't any better than the sg2!
I was hoping for something strong enough to really slap apples iPhone 4s out but we will see.
As far as this g2x versus a prime?
Prime I would love to have cuz its faster and more than likely gonna get all the updates in the word
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The galaxy nexus is gonna **** on everything, specs don't really mean alot to me real world testing does. Everyone said the same thing about the Nexus S when it came out because it wasn't dual core but it can hold its own against almost any phone out. The specs on the galaxy Nexus are good they go together like the Omap processor is mainly because of the HD screen since omap has IV3. watch how many ppl get the Nexus when it drops, most ppl are getting iPhones so they can resell them cuz ppl will pay so much not cuz its a great phone IMO
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IMO, the Nexus S and the Galaxy Nexus were intentionally gimped by Samsung in order to sell their own, Touchwiz based handsets instead.
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Absolutley they did, why wouldn't they use their in house superior Exynos and Mali GPU? They want to push their own brand and Google accepted it. Google is to blame for that not Samsung.
It's cool that you're content with the G2x as I am. But in no way is this better than the GN. The 1280x720 is now native on Android on ICS. So no matter what devs can do, ICS will never be native on this phone. Plus it's super amoled HD... G2x can't touch that. And the camera ain't even close, the GN takes amazing pictures and video, plus that instant zero shutter lag is pretty awesome.
I love the G2x as much as you do. But it's not even in the same league as the GN.
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It's cool that you're content with the G2x as I am. But in no way is this better than the GN. The 1280x720 is now native on Android on ICS. So no matter what devs can do, ICS will never be native on this phone. Plus it's super amoled HD... G2x can't touch that. And the camera ain't even close, the GN takes amazing pictures and video, plus that instant zero shutter lag is pretty awesome.
I love the G2x as much as you do. But it's not even in the same league as the GN.
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agreed. the g2x is solid, even performs better than other dual-core 1.0ghz+ phones (benchmark 200+ higher than my brothers rooted sensation at 1.2). i think people are just displeased with the announcement. some serious upgrades, yes (ICS, ridiculous screen, etc) but some features are just lacking. it was the same with the nexus s (single core, no notification light, etc). if you're paying for a GN, i'm sure you understand the piece of technology you're getting your hands on; you're willing to pay for every feature that they're willing to put into the device. if google and samsung are concerned about overpricing the handset, they should be aware that their demographic for this device is specific and that demographic is willing to pay.
i'm selling my g2x and buying a GSII or GN. it's still an amazing device, just less of a powerhouse than some people thought.
Wow you all are aware that after the release of this phone, there is gonna be a butt load of better phones to follow really soon. I mean nvidia had to wait for this phone to be released so they can start pushing tegra 3 devices.
I am sure by Christmas we will have quad core phones available and all who ran out and bought this GN or GS2 will be upset.
I got this g2x for like 200 on Amazon no contract.
I have had the option for a new phone for awhile but why would I when this phone rocks?
Besides my next device is the Vita!
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True, but those better devices won't be Nexus devices. That is the big difference. After using multiple dual core processors including Tegra 2, I don't think I want any part of Tegra 3.
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True, but those better devices won't be Nexus devices. That is the big difference. After using multiple dual core processors including Tegra 2, I don't think I want any part of Tegra 3.
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what do you dislike about the tegra 2? i've never used any other dual cores.
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Wow you all are aware that after the release of this phone, there is gonna be a butt load of better phones to follow really soon. I mean nvidia had to wait for this phone to be released so they can start pushing tegra 3 devices.
I am sure by Christmas we will have quad core phones available and all who ran out and bought this GN or GS2 will be upset.
I got this g2x for like 200 on Amazon no contract.
I have had the option for a new phone for awhile but why would I when this phone rocks?
Besides my next device is the Vita!
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Yeah but it's a Nexus man. Same thing with the Nexus S, its hardware got eclipsed in a couple of months when the Atrix came out and the Nexus S was still smoother. In real world applications the Nexus S has been the smoothest phone up until probably the Bionic came out, everything else was either bogged down by Sense 3.0 or just plain out laggy like the Atrix. If we're talking out of the box, and with no custom ROM's, the Nexus line is always the smoothest and fastest, and the direct support from Google is what you're paying for.
Honestly I'm disappointed in the new hardware specs too. I wanted it to blow the iPhone 4S out of the water so I could show everyone that Android is truly superior. Now I have to rely on showing them pictures of ICS. And unfortunately most of them are too stupid to understand camera app settings, so that'll be of little help!
Should've gotten like a quad-core, 16mp camera, 2gb ram, hdmi port, 1080p screen, 320gb internal memory, and much more.
*If you don't sense the sarcasm, i'll put this as a disclaimer so I don't get trolled*
Im opening this because my ild one was closed for no reason. Never was contacted by a mod or anything. It was just closed without reason.
Ao basically im able to open up a new contract on ATT. Im just not sure what to get though. The choices i had above are what i was thinking but im open to suggestions and opinions.
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I'm not sure why it got closed either. Lately it seems the mods are a little trigger happy on the lock in the general section. Seems like a perfectly legitimate topic that fits well into the rules of general...
You already know my opinion though . Wait for more info on the GSIII. The Note has been out too long (in my opinion) and therefore the hardware is a little underwhelming. It seems the GSIII or One X will fare better in terms of updates to new versions of Android too, with both being the flagship. Like you said, the GSIII is bound to have a big ole battery, and the One X plagued by the same old battery issues of HTC. Add in the fact that you can't replace the battery, and that's a big problem.
By the way, a good site to look for info on the GSIII is linked below. They add updates quite often at the bottom of the article.
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...laxy-s3-release-date-news-and-rumours-1051525
Update: Samsung's marketing agency looks like it might have dropped the ball, reportedly confirming that the Galaxy S3 will hit stores worldwide in April.
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So it looks to be an April release at best, other info points to May 22 as a day of significance.
We simply are tired of ppl not reading the rules, I´m moving this to where it belongs
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We simply are tired of ppl not reading the rules, I´m moving this to where it belongs
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Well where does this belong? It seems like it fits in general. And no one said anything about it being in the wrong section. If someone would have said something when they locked it, i would have opened the new one up in the correct section. But i recieved no notice as to why it was locked or who locked it.
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I just feel like this thread offers more of a discussion (general) than a simple question (Q&A). Stumpy, maybe next time lose the question mark at the end and put [discussion] before the title. I suppose the fact that your main intent is to help with your next phone might've been why it got moved.
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I just feel like this thread offers more of a discussion (general) than a simple question (Q&A). Stumpy, maybe next time lose the question mark at the end and put [discussion] before the title. I suppose the fact that your main intent is to help with your next phone might've been why it got moved.
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yeah, i to feel its more of a general discussion on what phones on AT&T are gunna be good. im not straight up asking a question. i want people to give opinions and help me figure out what phone ill be sticking with for the next few years( well at least for a few months seeing as its me)
SGS3 vs OneX vs Note?
Here's my take on things:
Note is immediately disqualified since it simply belongs in the previous generation. It can still run almost anything, if not all, apps on the Play Store though.
SGS3 vs OneX! Now here's where we get a hard time! Anyway, I'd go for the OneX because it's already available And since your on T-Mob then you'll be ending up with the Krait version which I actually consider superior to the 4-PLUS-1 NVIDIA chip. BUT if SGS3 comes out with a 32nm or a similar 28nm architecture then it's gonna be a no-brainer for me and go for the SGS3. 40-45nm is simply no match for <32nm chips.
Plus: The camera on the OneX kinda sucks compared to the SGS2, so I'm guessing the cam on the SGS3 will own it.
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SGS3 vs OneX vs Note?
Here's my take on things:
Note is immediately disqualified since it simply belongs in the previous generation. It can still run almost anything, if not all, apps on the Play Store though.
SGS3 vs OneX! Now here's where we get a hard time! Anyway, I'd go for the OneX because it's already available And since your on T-Mob then you'll be ending up with the Krait version which I actually consider superior to the 4-PLUS-1 NVIDIA chip. BUT if SGS3 comes out with a 32nm or a similar 28nm architecture then it's gonna be a no-brainer for me and go for the SGS3. 40-45nm is simply no match for <32nm chips.
Plus: The camera on the OneX kinda sucks compared to the SGS2, so I'm guessing the cam on the SGS3 will own it.
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Where did you get the idea im kn T-mo?
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SGS3 vs OneX vs Note?
Here's my take on things:
Note is immediately disqualified since it simply belongs in the previous generation. It can still run almost anything, if not all, apps on the Play Store though.
SGS3 vs OneX! Now here's where we get a hard time! Anyway, I'd go for the OneX because it's already available And since your on T-Mob then you'll be ending up with the Krait version which I actually consider superior to the 4-PLUS-1 NVIDIA chip. BUT if SGS3 comes out with a 32nm or a similar 28nm architecture then it's gonna be a no-brainer for me and go for the SGS3. 40-45nm is simply no match for <32nm chips.
Plus: The camera on the OneX kinda sucks compared to the SGS2, so I'm guessing the cam on the SGS3 will own it.
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I have the AT&T note and I love it. Yeah the screen is huge but man it is beautiful. As far as speed it does everything I want it to without any slowdowns. There are OC'ed kernels for it that can really make this sucker fly if you want high benchmarks. For me, it runs perfectly the way it is.
I would love to get my hands on the SGS3 but by the time it land on AT&T store shelves it will probably be Q4 of this year or sometime next year. Remember when the SGS2 came out? That phone hit the Asian and European market well before it hit the states. And when it got here it kinda lost its luster.
Lastly the HTC One X. I'm just getting real tire of HTC. The phone is beautiful and comes with some nice hardware BUT no micro SD or removable battery is deal breaker for me. I don't know what they were thinking. Its not too difficult adding these options but they carelessly neglected it.
And please people don't start telling me that 16gb of internal memory is enough. Maybe its enough for you but it's not enough for me. I don't tell you what you want so don't tell me what I want.
Just my 2 cents.
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I have the AT&T note and I love it. Yeah the screen is huge but man it is beautiful. As far as speed it does everything I want it to without any slowdowns. There are OC'ed kernels for it that can really make this sucker fly if you want high benchmarks. For me, it runs perfectly the way it is.
I would love to get my hands on the SGS3 but by the time it land on AT&T store shelves it will probably be Q4 of this year or sometime next year. Remember when the SGS2 came out? That phone hit the Asian and European market well before it hit the states. And when it got here it kinda lost its luster.
Lastly the HTC One X. I'm just getting real tire of HTC. The phone is beautiful and comes with some nice hardware BUT no micro SD or removable battery is deal breaker for me. I don't know what they were thinking. Its not too difficult adding these options but they carelessly neglected it.
And please people don't start telling me that 16gb of internal memory is enough. Maybe its enough for you but it's not enough for me. I don't tell you what you want so don't tell me what I want.
Just my 2 cents.
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Yeah i want something that can really fly with performance. I remeber when i first got this score with my desire hd a few months back
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I want something that can kick ass. And i think thatll be the gs3. Hopefully release isnt far off
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I think it is a matter of timing. If you already have a fairly recent dual core LTE device then the One X will only be an incremental step up. Faster, yes, but not as big a difference as if you were going from a single core phone to the One X. If the S3 lives up to expectations with a new generation quad core, however, it could be a significant increase in performance (final specs yet to be released...).
Problem is we dont know when the S3 is coming out, especially not in the states. If they do announce the release date during their press event on May 22nd it will still be at least 2-3 months before it makes it to the US.
For me, my old Captivate just hard-bricked and I need a new phone ASAP, so I will be getting the One X as soon as it comes out. If I had one of the newer previously mentioned devices (including the note), I would wait and compare.
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I think it is a matter of timing. If you already have a fairly recent dual core LTE device then the One X will only be an incremental step up. Faster, yes, but not as big a difference as if you were going from a single core phone to the One X. If the S3 lives up to expectations with a new generation quad core, however, it could be a significant increase in performance (final specs yet to be released...).
Problem is we dont know when the S3 is coming out, especially not in the states. If they do announce the release date during their press event on May 22nd it will still be at least 2-3 months before it makes it to the US.
For me, my old Captivate just hard-bricked and I need a new phone ASAP, so I will be getting the One X as soon as it comes out. If I had one of the newer previously mentioned devices (including the note), I would wait and compare.
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yeah i had a rep at att sign me up so when they come available for preorder ill know. if i dont like it ill just trade for an s3
Why should we compare current devices to a device that virtually doesn't exist yet?
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Why should we compare current devices to a device that virtually doesn't exist yet?
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Because it does exist. Just because there is no official announcement doesnt mean its not out there. You dont like it, then get out of the thread
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Why should we compare current devices to a device that virtually doesn't exist yet?
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exactly why I said if I could wait I would. The Samsung Galaxy line has been the leader for the last two years, but HTC is trying to reclaim the throne as the best smart phone producer (so they have something to prove).
The S3 could blow everyone else out of the water, or it could just be in equal running with all the others coming out this year (meaning it would be a matter of taste at that point). "Could" is the key word here...
I have been thinking of buying the Tegra 3 version from overseas it says on most review sites that its compatible with ATT. Dont have LTE in my area so thats not usefull to me. Anyone thought about that option yet.
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I have been thinking of buying the Tegra 3 version from overseas it says on most review sites that its compatible with ATT. Dont have LTE in my area so thats not usefull to me. Anyone thought about that option yet.
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Tegra 3 sucks. Its already been shown that the s4 beats it. Plus the s4 requires less power. And dont give me the stupid quad core automatically is better than dual core argument either. And this isnt even rated to why this was started. Thats not an option for me. Im nlt going to go shell out 700 for a phone that sucks compared to one i can get for $200
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very good tutorial
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umm......
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Because it does exist. Just because there is no official announcement doesnt mean its not out there. You dont like it, then get out of the thread
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I didn't say it didn't exist, it just virtually doesn't exist. I know your excitement is getting the better of you, but outside of the baseless rumors you hear every other day; nothing about the phone is known other than it's going to be here one day. It makes sense to make a comparison once the specs are officially ripped and posted for inspection.
Samsung, in certain areas such as display technology, and their Exnyos Quad Core Processors is unsurpassed. They are not "Perfect" but have as much of a claim to "Best Mobile Phone Available" as HTC does with the One X. Each have their strengths, but I see Samsung as a better device overall, a really close call, and a tough choice since I am, and have been an HTC fanbboy all the way back to HD2, a game changing device, as the first 4.3" large screen device in the US, and one of the 1st Gig Processor's (THE first in a Windows Phone. A device so awesome, I switched carriers to get it.
But yeah, Samsung should team up with an Audio brand like HTC did with Beats, and a get a bit more high end material into their designs (read aluminum, ceramic, etc.) would really sweeten what's obviously top gear gear, LOL! I now have to make a choice between the SGIII or the Galaxy Note, two amazing devices, OR... waiting on Galaxy Note II. Sigh, such a tough situ to be in, LOL. As long as I am daydreaming, can I wish that somehow Samsung (or ANY SOC manufacturer) licks the LTE on Quad Core incompatibility? I need to do more reading to understand why this is so, I mean that the current crop being incompatible with LTE is what it is, but the fact no one is touting a new, compatible quad core/LTE is what I need to understand better, but whatever the reason, it is seriously messing with my mobile nirvana. But for that, the SGSIII might be our next President; it sure would have capabilities beyond the current candidates, that much is obvious. Sigh.
I have an S3 right next to me and its blazing fast, display looks really nice and overall better to have it in person rather than just looking at pics. The audio on this thing is really loud when put on max and the display @720p watching videos is pretty nice as well.
What kinda sux is the box is "black" but the pebble blue model comes with white earbuds, slightly modified one than the skyrocket's, thought it would come with black ones , the white model actually looks nice too.
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I have an S3 right next to me and its blazing fast, display looks really nice and overall better to have it in person rather than just looking at pics. The audio on this thing is really loud when put on max and the display @720p watching videos is pretty nice as well.
What kinda sux is the box is "black" but the pebble blue model comes with white earbuds, slightly modified one than the skyrocket's, thought it would come with black ones , the white model actually looks nice too.
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What kind of finish does it have? Glossy?
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What kind of finish does it have? Glossy?
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lol sorry for my bad pic skills, running on the new leak so didnt change the settings
I love my skyrocket as well. My upgrade wont happen until May of next year, so I will see what samsung has available at that time. Depending period on the release of the G Note 2 which is what I am leaning towards. Also waiting on the confirmation of the nexus models coming out later this year.
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I love my skyrocket as well. My upgrade wont happen until May of next year, so I will see what samsung has available at that time. Depending period on the release of the G Note 2 which is what I am leaning towards. Also waiting on the confirmation of the nexus models coming out later this year.
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Yeah theres really no big reason to get the S3 as the Skyrocket is still a fully capable phone +/- features that we probably won't use a lot yet and knowing Samsung they'll pump out new revisions by the end of the year. Also waiting on that new Nexus model, want to see whats new with Jellybean
My bro and his gf both got S3s last night as their upgrade contract ended, they were both iphone4 converts and they both really like the new phone, mainly because of how big the screen is and the quality of the phone overall, it doesnt feel as expensive as the iphones but they sure beat it in everything else
Might not be the best comparison pic but this is:
Skyrocket vs Iphone4 vs S3
No doubt the iphone will have the most neutral color (IPS). The blacks on S3 is pretty crazy. When we compared whites Skyrocket vs S3, the Skyrocket seemed to have a more "cool" temperature while the S3 was closer to neutral.
Wifi Analyzer, this is AOKP (Skyrocket) vs Stock ICS (S3) so not sure if there are any custom settings thats causing the lighter black.
Another comparison pic of the colors.
Again both are pretty good with colors in comparison but remember the S3 has a higher pixel density as well as a 720p display and... I don't really have a DSLR to get accurate shots so it can be a little bias, just a rough comparison. But you just have to see it in person if you want to see real comparison.
Samsung will have another flag ship phone by September.if we try and keep up we would go broke.within 4 months last year they released infuse galaxy s2 and then the skyrocket...thanks Samsung
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Samsung will have another flag ship phone by September.if we try and keep up we would go broke.within 4 months last year they released infuse galaxy s2 and then the skyrocket...thanks Samsung
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I hear Korea's S3 will have quad core + LTE + 2gb ram
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Samsung will have another flag ship phone by September.if we try and keep up we would go broke.within 4 months last year they released infuse galaxy s2 and then the skyrocket...thanks Samsung
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lol, so true
True, but it's not like the consumers (us) are really complaining. Those of us that can afford it, change our phones like crazy. The frequent releases of new Android phones, and better technology in them, also converts more iPhone users
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Yes international versions have quad Att doesn't because if the lte chip.honestly I highly doubt that we would actually feel the difference because this skyrocket is super smooth and I'll trade two cores for the lte speed any day IMO
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I would trade LTE speeds for more ram
Most phone apps barely even use more than one thread yet alone 2, quad core would just be overkill. But I do like the S4 chip, its power efficient, fast and runs cool. :good:
Those of us less fortunate than others can't afford a new phone every few months so we have to wait until we can get 2 year upgrades enjoy you're 4.8 inch galaxy s2
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You have a point but that lte on the go is awesome but only if you live in a lte area.I'm in the SF bay area and I get lte everywhere
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Yeah, my area doesn't even have LTE so its kinda useless right now, some areas though have them but I'm also limited with the data plan as I was late in getting one so I have to pay new prices. My bro is paying the same as I am and he gets 2GB data while I get 300mb I'll try to see if they can change me to the old 2GB but paying this much for 300mb is a rip. Yes I'm still a poor college student and I will be eating ramen all this year :silly: . Some people are crazy enough to go with the International version (buy it) and get the $10 data plan (ATT might catch on to this).
And yeah there really isnt any big reason to upgrade as the Skyrocket is a fast phone. The more phones they dish out the better your next one will be :good: For example with computers I went from an i7 1st gen to an i5 2nd gen. 2nd gen run faster per clock, less heat, more power efficient and can OC higher.
3 different versions of the S3 on first release is just silly.
International: Quad Core + Non-LTE + 1GB RAM
US/Canada: Dual Core + LTE + 2GB RAM
Korea's special edition: Quad Core + LTE + 2GB RAM
But overall I prefer the S4 Snapdragon 28nm over the Exynos 32nm. The 2GB of ram helps a lot especially with multitasking and loading videos. Even with the stock ICS it loads about 1.1~gigs of the 1.6gb available which means the phone doesnt always have to stress on clearing the ram as fast as the 1GB versions.
Ya all of that lol
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Yeah, my area doesn't even have LTE so its kinda useless right now, some areas though have them but I'm also limited with the data plan as I was late in getting one so I have to pay new prices. My bro is paying the same as I am and he gets 2GB data while I get 300mb I'll try to see if they can change me to the old 2GB but paying this much for 300mb is a rip. Yes I'm still a poor college student and I will be eating ramen all this year :silly: . Some people are crazy enough to go with the International version (buy it) and get the $10 data plan (ATT might catch on to this).
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Since you don't have LTE, have you considered T-Mobile? If you're willing to wait and buy a phone outright after it's been out for awhile, you can usually find a good deal (or just get a G-Nex from the play store). From there, their value plans are pretty cheap... even better if you can get in on a family plan. Here in west LA, T-Mo's HSPA+ speeds are actually on par w/ AT&T's LTE.
I'm thinking of waiting for my ETF to get low enough, and then bail for T-Mo (unless ATT improves their speeds and coverage in LA and/or SF). Right now, my family plan is 500 min (total) anytime minutes and 2GB for $55/person. On T-Mo, 1000 min and 2GB = $35/person. That's a $480 saving over two years! The wildcard is how cheap you can get your phone for.
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Since you don't have LTE, have you considered T-Mobile? If you're willing to wait and buy a phone outright after it's been out for awhile, you can usually find a good deal (or just get a G-Nex from the play store). From there, their value plans are pretty cheap... even better if you can get in on a family plan. Here in west LA, T-Mo's HSPA+ speeds are actually on par w/ AT&T's LTE.
I'm thinking of waiting for my ETF to get low enough, and then bail for T-Mo (unless ATT improves their speeds and coverage in LA and/or SF). Right now, my family plan is 500 min (total) anytime minutes and 2GB for $55/person. On T-Mo, 1000 min and 2GB = $35/person. That's a $480 saving over two years! The wildcard is how cheap you can get your phone for.
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Yeah for where I live right now ATT has good signal but if I were to move then I would probably consider another carrier, when I was living in Gainesville, FL the signal for ATT wasnt that great so most people went for T-mobile, some areas have worse signal. All my cousins are on Sprint and whenever I call them with my cellphone/house phone it takes like 4-5 rings = 1 ring for them so most of the time I pick carriers based on the area After I graduate (in a year? ) I'll probably switch over to another carrier or if I decide to move to another state I'll consider it. :good:
For now I guess I'm okay with wifi since I'm around school/home/public wifi a lot I don't have to worry as much on the data usage. Still going to try to go to the ATT store to see if they can give me the 2GB plan that my bro pays for +$18 while I'm on the 300mb and I pay +$25 hope they'll be lenient since we've been customers since Cingular days.
I am mixed on the S3 honestly. I know that it is a better phone than my Skyrocket, but I am sure the Quad core phones will be out later this year. I keep telling myself to wait, but then again I do not game on my phone at all so will the quad core really make that big a difference? I can only imagine that there will be a lot of great ROMs for the GS3 as well. I have yet to play with a GS3 yet, so I am sure that will help my decision.
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/09/t-mobile-announces-the-galaxy-s-relay-4g-qwerty-keyboard-and-all/
A lot of us here on XDA have been anticipating this phone's release. Turns out the specs are almost the same as our old MT4GS. Let your anger out here if you wish OR are some going for it anyways? Also, looks like Tmo USA is getting the Note 2. Are some gonna just hope on that instead? If any touch screen device can replace a QWERTY, its definitely the Note. Plenty of screen real estate for typing. What do you guys think?
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Seems like tmobile made a mistake. Surprise surprise!
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/09/t-mobile-confirms-snapdragon-s4-chip-inside-galaxy-s-relay-4g/
Still lacks a decent camera (I know MP don't mean everything. Lens quality and image processor matter much more.), extra ram, etc.... I may wait for the Note 2, the alleged 5 Nexuseseses, blah blah blah before deciding for sure. I still am enjoying my DS especially since CM9 runs butter smooth and flawless now
I don't see any advantage on this other than having support from tmobile & has official ICS ROM. Also does this have FM Radio? I only hunt phones with qwerty keyboard and FM radio prebuilt
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I don't see any advantage on this other than having support from tmobile & has official ICS ROM. Also does this have FM Radio? I only hunt phones with qwerty keyboard and FM radio prebuilt
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I agree... guess I should have clarified in the op that the original guess/rumor was that this phone would have 720 HD 4" screen and a S4 processor. That's why I posted the release info cause it was such a downer plus a few of us had been waiting on confirmation here. I'm not sure if Samsung normally has FM radio though. I'm using stuff like Sirius XM/Pandora so I hardly touch that FM dial anymore. It seems like this is a lower mid range model instead of the SGSIII with a keyboard that it was rumored to be
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I agree... guess I should have clarified in the op that the original guess/rumor was that this phone would have 720 HD 4" screen and a S4 processor. That's why I posted the release info cause it was such a downer plus a few of us had been waiting on confirmation here. I'm not sure if Samsung normally has FM radio though. I'm using stuff like Sirius XM/Pandora so I hardly touch that FM dial anymore. It seems like this is a lower mid range model instead of the SGSIII with a keyboard that it was rumored to be
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galaxy S Series has FM Radios built into them that's why I asked.
difference in performance between s3 & s4 processors is just 15%. The 1GB RAM & 4inch display seems to be catchy but keeps me thinking if the 15% processing power + 250mb addin ram would convince me in spending another few hundred bucks?
The 4inch screen is a turn off for me I find 3.7 perfect already.
Also what about the camera?
And regarding NFC I don't find it very useful(at least in our country where most people are still stuck with no OS phones.
So... For me unless I render my phone unuseable or a new phone has something which would make a big difference compared to my current phone I guess I'll be sticking with my current one.
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galaxy S Series has FM Radios built into them that's why I asked.
difference in performance between s3 & s4 processors is just 15%. The 1GB RAM & 4inch display seems to be catchy but keeps me thinking if the 15% processing power + 250mb addin ram would convince me in spending another few hundred bucks?
The 4inch screen is a turn off for me I find 3.7 perfect already.
Also what about the camera?
And regarding NFC I don't find it very useful(at least in our country where most people are still stuck with no OS phones.
So... For me unless I render my phone unuseable or a new phone has something which would make a big difference compared to my current phone I guess I'll be sticking with my current one.
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Hehehhe! I hear ya... I was more interested in the S4's power saving/gpu improvement vs the cpu performance. I've heard that range from 15 to 30% I guess it just depends on each application, really... I think 4" is the perfect size for a qwerty. I'd might even like to see bigger lol! (Probably would a huge ass brick, right?) Yeah, I don't know much about Samsung (had no idea about the FM on the Galaxy models) but as long as HTC keeps the attitude that qwertys are dead... Samsung is my second choice, I guess. I'm still liking my DS for now. My contract is up in October and this was gonna be my upgrade. Oh well... I'll hang around for the next or pick up that Note 2. NFC hasn't really picked up anywhere even in the old USA. Well, maybe a few of the bigger cities use them more so... I don't know.
I might still want to jump ship to the Samsung slider.
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Since my MT4GS is less than 1 year old, I'm going to wait until the next Nexus debuts. I've decided that from now on I will only buy Nexus products. I'm sick of the bull**** from HTC and other manufacturers and their lame-ass excuses for not producing an update. HTC can suck my ***. I will miss Sense UI, though. I'm one of the few, it seems, that prefers how Sense works and looks.
I will probably getting the Note. Now that my phone got bricked about two months ago by the faulty recovery and all HTC has been doing of late is churning out excuses instead of making updates for this device.
I will shelve my brick so it works as a reminder that I shoudl never buy another HTC device again.
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I will probably getting the Note. Now that my phone got bricked about two months ago by the faulty recovery and all HTC has been doing of late is churning out excuses instead of making updates for this device.
I will shelve my brick so it works as a reminder that I shoudl never buy another HTC device again.
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Sorry man I have been so busy as of lately, ill pm you my address if you still wanna send it so we can get on HTC about fixing
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Sorry man I have been so busy as of lately, ill pm you my address if you still wanna send it so we can get on HTC about fixing
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Thanks for the PM. I understand. I am actually just disappointed in HTC for making devs jump through so many hurdles to get anything done on this device, and further frustrate them by not releasing source. The only reason why their sales are suffering is because they don't listen.
I have been reading up on the problem and looking through the forums to see what other devices used to fix this problem. And with Samsung it was simply restocking with odin or using heimdal tool.
I will definitely be sending it because I love its camera to bits. It really takes good photos. Once my friend put his OneX up against my MT4GS and it ended up taking better close ups than the OneX because it seemed to have a better auto focus.
I will be saving up for the first note to replace my G2(which has seen better days) if I manage to get this fixed.
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I'd say the Photon would be the qwerty to beat, but our camera sorta owns most, if not all, mobile devices right now.
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I'd say the Photon would be the qwerty to beat, but our camera sorta owns most, if not all, mobile devices right now.
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Unlocked bootloader +1
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This device is pretty epic. I can live with a 5mpx camera no problem. It's a really nice looking device. I've grown tired with Sense, and HTC in general. BUT Walmart is now selling the TMO version on GSII. It's off contract, and only 300 bucks. That's a deal.
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Hmmm... Seems like the specs are conflicting still. Check this out: http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SGH-T699DABTMB-specs It clearly shows the MSM8260A as the processor type which is a S4. Confirm that here: http://www.qualcomm.com/chipsets/snapdragon However, David (tmonews editor) is still claiming that both his press releases (tmobile and samsung) show the device having the S3. Someone screwed up big time lol! I feel that only a S4 makes sense at time but I guess its still a mystery?!
I am very interested in this new keyboard Galaxy, hopefully an GalaxySIII variant with S4 or Tegra3 chipset.
two key reasons: the Doubleshot is a rare device and never sold outside USA, so here in the UK I'm living on luck in terms of support of UK/European 3G operators.
secondly: five row keyboard.
also hoping for good performance without battery compromise. I am actively using my DShot for about three hours a day (starting about 7:30am over breakfast, on the bus into work and back, and a while in the evening before bed at 11:30pm) and the battery is usually exhausted!
If you're still using the stock battery that's at least part of the problem. If you were to get an Anker or Mugen battery and run a debloated version of the stock ROM so you could keep your original camera and it's functions you'd really see a difference. I sure did.
Having a 5 row qwerty again sure would be nice.
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imo, the only reason why the DS didn't do so well is because HTC didn't release an international version.
Well people would have complained about the keyboard, but eventually would have gotten used to it.
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I don't know if this is relevant here but here are the views of the G2 owners on the same
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1837559
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imo, the only reason why the DS didn't do so well is because HTC didn't release an international version.
Well people would have complained about the keyboard, but eventually would have gotten used to it.
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I don't know if this is relevant here but here are the views of the G2 owners on the same
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1837559
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Totally relevant! It's nice to see my old brothers in the G2 section lol! And I couldn't agree with ya more... this device would have been huge with the dual core processor qwerty and bad ass camera (that is STILL one the best around!)
It will be quite some time, before dev action pics up on that device (if ever). So jumping into that phone right now would be a bad idea, unless you want to dev.
It's been a little more than a year since the DS came out, and we now have many roms to choose from. So think of how long this will take
Does anyone know if the internals of this new phone are based on the internals of another Galaxy phone? That would make porting a lot easier and also speed up devving.
But by the looks of it, I am liking this phone design a lot. Has everything I need, including a trackpad. Now, as long as they keep the physical size down, I may consider getting one.
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It will be quite some time, before dev action pics up on that device (if ever). So jumping into that phone right now would be a bad idea, unless you want to dev.
It's been a little more than a year since the DS came out, and we now have many roms to choose from. So think of how long this will take
Does anyone know if the internals of this new phone are based on the internals of another Galaxy phone? That would make porting a lot easier and also speed up devving.
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The phone is not yet released so can't really say. But judging by the hardware specs. It looks like a SGS II.
Regarding development support... There's already SGS III which obviously is 1 fold greater than this device + relay 4g is also a tmobile exclusive. I don't see any samsung devs downgrading just to support this device(except maybe dedicated community devs like cyanogenmod etc.). For all I know the only persons which will be attracted on this device are keyboard enthusiasts like me. But I just got a mt4gs & relay 4g isn't that of a big difference with mt4gs anyways. So I'll pass on this phone for now. And if ever I decided to go samsung with qwerty I would rather choose samsung captivate glide instead. At least the specs are far more superior than relay 4g.
Tegra 2 = Cortex A9 Processor
Snapdragon S3 = Cortex A8 Processor
It's like a 1.5ghz celeron processor vs a 1ghz Pentium 4
And by the way Samsung captivate glide isn't even officially supported by cyanogenmod. So relay 4g being a much lower spec'd device do you think they'd get alot more support than captivate glide?
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4914&idPhone2=4071
See what I mean? Captivate glide is also getting official ICS upgrade anyways.