It's basically an InFuSe with a dual-core 1.2 instead of single-core 1.2.
Who the hell is T-Mobile f*ckin to get all these bad @ss fones lately???Samsung Hercules Headed to T-Mobile this September?
If the latest reports are accurate we might be seeing the Samsung Hercules land over on T-Mobile this September. If the HTC Sensation or the recently troubled G2x dual-core phones aren’t what you desire maybe the Hercules will be, it has great specs to back it up.
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In case you haven’t heard the Samsung Hercules could very well be the Galaxy S II variant for T-Mobile, with a boosted screen size hitting 4.5″ and looking beautiful with that AMOLED display. We haven’t seen much of Hercules as of late but he could have recently passed through the FCC.
The Samsung Hercules specs if to be believed feature that 4.5″ AMOLED display, Android 2.3 Gingerbread with NFC support. Reports suggesting a Qualcomm 1.2GHz dual-core processor, 16GB storage and 1GB RAM, loaded with a 8MP rear camera as well as a front VGA all topped off with some T-Mobile 4G speeds. Sounds perfect if I don’t say so myself. With recent reports about carriers and Samsung not able to agree to a Galaxy S II launch the Hercules will just have to make do, but I’m not complaining.
[via TmoNews]
http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-hercules-headed-to-t-mobile-this-september-20110709/
well..... thats electronics for ya, by the time you buy it your already looking at the next best thing. I kinda knew that samsung would throw out a dual core phone but I really didnt care, after having the atrix it proved it to me. The infuse is far far far from the "shyt" end of the stick, I still love mine and I have absolutely never went, "man I wish this was faster". Its perfect for me, but thanks for the info
I fail to see how we got the "shyt" end of the stick.
One, this is all rumor with little validity to back it up.
Two, there is more evidence that the Samsung Galaxy II is facing a large amount of hardship coming to the states due to there being:
- A plethora of "flagship" dual core phones on the providors (Atrix, Sensation/G2X, Droid 3/Bionic)
- It is a VERY LARGE subsidization compared to past cellphones
- Samsung themselves have come clean that they ar facing opposition from providors.
And lastly, welcome to technology. The Infuse came out May 15 which means from now to September that's 5-6 months depending on when it is actually released. 6 months is over a year in technology, especially when there were ALREADY dual core phones on the market when the Infuse 4G came out.
Just my 2 cents.
skillz9669 said:
well..... thats electronics for ya, by the time you buy it your already looking at the next best thing. I kinda knew that samsung would throw out a dual core phone but I really didnt care, after having the atrix it proved it to me. The infuse is far far far from the "shyt" end of the stick, I still love mine and I have absolutely never went, "man I wish this was faster". Its perfect for me, but thanks for the info
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I agree.. I knew there would be newer handsets dropping soon, but the Infuse does what I need it to do..
I do not have an Infuse but was looking at the display model at AT&T yesterday. The crisp, deep colors and the sharpness of the display is stunningly amazing. The best display I have personally ever seen on a phone without a doubt. That said, I no longer am buying into thinking that dual core is better. Why?
I recently sold my Asus Transformer which I am sure you are all somewhat familiar with the specs. Although it is an impressive device with an incredible display, it could not play 1080p content for crap! My Samsung Galaxy Tab (single core OC'd to 1.2 currently) plays my ripped blu-rays like a champ! No lag or jitter whatsoever.
I did not intend to hijack your thread with information about tabs, but I believe they use the same processors as the phones so what I posted I think is relevant.
If the phone you have or want does what you need it to do, then don't worry about what's coming out next month and don't feel hosed.
The Asus did not do what I needed it to do, but that is not why I got rid of it. I prefer the 7" form factor.
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I agree.. I knew there would be newer handsets dropping soon, but the Infuse does what I need it to do..
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+1
I have mine under clocked to 800 and it still kicks ass with no lag.
this was already posted a while back. and i really think that qualcomm processor is a mistake. no way samsung is going to use that.
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I do not have an Infuse but was looking at the display model at AT&T yesterday. The crisp, deep colors and the sharpness of the display is stunningly amazing. The best display I have personally ever seen on a phone without a doubt. That said, I no longer am buying into thinking that dual core is better. Why?
I recently sold my Asus Transformer which I am sure you are all somewhat familiar with the specs. Although it is an impressive device with an incredible display, it could not play 1080p content for crap! My Samsung Galaxy Tab (single core OC'd to 1.2 currently) plays my ripped blu-rays like a champ! No lag or jitter whatsoever.
I did not intend to hijack your thread with information about tabs, but I believe they use the same processors as the phones so what I posted I think is relevant.
If the phone you have or want does what you need it to do, then don't worry about what's coming out next month and don't feel hosed.
The Asus did not do what I needed it to do, but that is not why I got rid of it. I prefer the 7" form factor.
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Video playback is not about the CPU on mobile devices, it's about the GPU. Anything that falls back on the CPU to do work is going to perform poorly. For media supported by a GPU, the CPU does almost no work at all.
It happens that the GPU of Samsung Hummingbirds has some very impressive features (one of the only devices I know of to support H.264 Main Profile and I think even High Profile) which make it awesome for media.
Nvidia apparently focused on 3D with the Tegra and not so much on media, so they, like iDevices, only support H.264 Baseline Profile.
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I have mine under clocked to 800 and it still kicks ass with no lag.
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I always wondered about doing this as well.
When you underclock the processor there is less battery drain, and less heat than when it's running @ 1.2ghz right?
People have said that the Infuses heat causes the screen to shut down the brightness which this would help with right?
I know the iPhone 4 has a 1ghz processor that is underclocked to 800mghz as well and it gets fantastic battery life.
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Video playback is not about the CPU on mobile devices, it's about the GPU. Anything that falls back on the CPU to do work is going to perform poorly. For media supported by a GPU, the CPU does almost no work at all.
It happens that the GPU of Samsung Hummingbirds has some very impressive features (one of the only devices I know of to support H.264 Main Profile and I think even High Profile) which make it awesome for media.
Nvidia apparently focused on 3D with the Tegra and not so much on media, so they, like iDevices, only support H.264 Baseline Profile.
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Thanks for the clarification!
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When you underclock the processor there is less battery drain, and less heat than when it's running @ 1.2ghz right?
People have said that the Infuses heat causes the screen to shut down the brightness which this would help with right?
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Yes. It does. It reduces the heat generated when running at lower speeds. But pushing to too low levels increases the amount of time CPU spends at 100% and causing more heat.
After some experimenting, I found 800 to be a safe bet.
The Infuse will be severely obsolete long before it's time for most people to upgrade.
It's certainly not a good investment.
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I fail to see how we got the "shyt" end of the stick.
Just my 2 cents.
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I guess you guys are right cause the development is BOOOOMING for our beloved Infuse. There are just too many devs pluggin away at the infuse i cant keep up with all these roms!
Like i said, Shyt End of the stick, actually at this rate we didnt even get that much...
PS: about the only thing the InFuSe has going for it right now is a decent commercial.
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I guess you guys are right cause the development is BOOOOMING for our beloved Infuse. There are just too many devs pluggin away at the infuse i cant keep up with all these roms!
Like i said, Shyt End of the stick, actually at this rate we didnt even get that much...
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Real question: Why isn't the Infuse as popular as the HTC HD2? Hell even two years after it came out they just ported over WP7 and Mango
Seems to me like the best phone on Att so why are there so few people/developers getting it?
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I guess you guys are right cause the development is BOOOOMING for our beloved Infuse. There are just too many devs pluggin away at the infuse i cant keep up with all these roms!
Like i said, Shyt End of the stick, actually at this rate we didnt even get that much...
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This particular topic was covered in MULTIPLE threads already. The reason development has slowed down is due to Gingerbread not being available yet. The devs don't see a reason to develop further at this point, only to have to redo everything once Gingerbread is available. Once Gingerbread is released for Infuse in Canada (which should be soon), I'm sure you will see plenty of development for this phone. Be patient.
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The Infuse will be severely obsolete long before it's time for most people to upgrade.
It's certainly not a good investment.
Sent from my Infuse 4G
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Any piece of technology is obsolete from the moment you buy it.
The Infuse is a perfectly fine investment, it's a great device.
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The Infuse will be severely obsolete long before it's time for most people to upgrade.
It's certainly not a good investment.
Sent from my Infuse 4G
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Pretty much everyone phone will be obsolete by time you're ready to upgrade. There really isn't a way to win with phones, there will always be something better coming out shortly after you get any phone. It's best to just pick the best phone that is currently out and just stick with it; there is no point in beating yourself up about getting a ****ty phone when even if you were to wait and get a different phone, that too would be outdated within a few months.
Sometimes you just need to pull the trigger and grab something, otherwise you'll never get anything.
When I was looking to upgrade my poor little LG shine (yes, stoopid phone) I researched and researched until my eyes bled. I bounced about 100 times between devices until I finally just went to a friend of mine's store and played with the Droid X. Sure, at the time there were better options out there, but for whatever reason, the phone just felt right to me.
The same thing goes for this Infuse that I have for work. I just got it on Friday and I know that there are faster phones already out and there will always be new phones coming out that makes any tech savvy person positively drool at the prospect of playing with it. As the post above me says, you just have to grab a device and go with it, and that's true; oh so true. You can get so wrapped up in looking at specs and reading about the new hotness, but in the end, you will wind up so conflicted with yourself that you can't make an honest choice about what you want.
Then again, who knows. I'm not your typical modder. I rooted the phone within the first ten minutes of having it, and I flashed my first ROM to it this morning. I'm the type of modder that doesn't feel the need to go grab the latest and greatest as long as I've found my "phone bliss" at the moment.
Main thing you need to take away from this thread- Technology is forever changing and buying any piece of technology isn't about nabbing the latest and greatest piece of hardware. The smart buyers grab what they know/think will last and can be tweaked to keep up with new software and uses for some time. Hell, I've got an HTC Eris on my desk at work that I know is OLD, but it's still a valid little phone and can keep up with most other phones of it kind.
Just buy what you like and don't get so wrapped up about what tomorrow will bring.
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When I was looking to upgrade my poor little LG shine (yes, stoopid phone)....
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Ha, I upgraded from an LG Shine to my current phone (Infuse). You have to admit though, the Shine wasn't a bad little phone ... I had it for about 3 years. But I'll tell you, going to the Infuse was a HUGE upgrade!
With that being said, I'll be perfectly happy with my Infuse until it's time to upgrade again. I definitely don't feel I got the "shyt" end of the stick.
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the Dual Core Phone is coming in less than 1 month. if anything it sounds like LG wants to kill the nexus S before it gets a chance.
Today you have the option to buy Nexus S. or Pre order the Dual Core phone with Tegra 2 GPU for max gaming perforamnce along with better camera and an SD card option and 1080p video recording capability
downside its 2.2 and unless it gets rooted early, 2.3 will take a while to be out.
seriously . i didnt know that they would release it so soon.
I do not particularly like LG at all, so I'll pass until someone else looses a dual-core into the wild.
No thanks. I'll be sticking with the nexus until the end of next year when a Dual-Core N3 is announced.
I like my updates a lot, tyvm
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I do not particularly like LG at all, so I'll pass until someone else looses a dual-core into the wild.
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normally i would agree with you. if you give me an LG phone for free. i wouldnt take it. its LG. but god damn i am really thinking of this one. the specs is out of this world
Tegra 2 is 'that' much powerful than Hummingbird ?
LG branded things for me is last resort after Thompson xD
ll_l_x_l_ll said:
normally i would agree with you. if you give me an LG phone for free. i wouldnt take it. its LG. but god damn i am really thinking of this one. the specs is out of this world
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Yeah, I agree the phone SEEMS like it's going to be absolutely amazing, and it very well may be. But I don't want to wait for updates and/or devs to get the latest and greatest software.
And as someone else said, I'll wait for the Nexus 3 or whatever it will be called.
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Tegra 2 is 'that' much powerful than Hummingbird ?
LG branded things for me is last resort after Thompson xD
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Yes its much more powerful. its from Nvidia after all
and i agree i hate the LG branding too.
No question the Tegra 2 device is the lastest and greatest based on dual chip solely. Its a monument release despite launching with 2.2. I'm not a gamer so that aspect doesn't interest me at all. I always keep two devices (1)cdma (2)gsm, for geek reasons. I really want to get both devices in my hand, then make a decision. We all know it will be the Tegra 2 device.
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Nah i hoped for 30-40% more power ... there is no need to take this over future Orion based phones.
http://news.softpedia.com/newsImage...he-Test-Deemed-Faster-Than-Hummingbird-4.png/
BTW. I lost hopes in NV after huge fail in dedicated PS3 GPU.
I'm not a massive fan of LG phones, even if the specs are good. Bearing in mind I've still not decided on an NS yet. I think it's a good step though, as someone has to push the dual core tech forward. When Samsung (which I have nothing against) or HTC start pushing the tech in their own form, whether it's Tegra, Orion or something from Qualcomm, I'll be more excited
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No, had a Galaxy S and hated waiting for updates, and not knowing if it would be updated.
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No, had a Galaxy S and hated waiting for updates, and not knowing if it would be updated.
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Just flassshhh ... xD They need to update TouchWizz and any other software so wait in patience
Somebody know what is top LG android phone right now available in market ?
Only time will tell whether the Opt 2X is worth it. Which is why I say this is a brink in mobile technology -- the standard is changing. Nexus S represents generally the best of an era that is ending (era of single core, 3G, etc). It might be worth waiting to some. No one can tell (meaning, not people who praise dual-core, or people who try to say dual-core is useless/wouldn't get first dual-core, etc.) for now.
As for the direct/clean Google updates, there are ways to work around that with other phones (flashing ROMs, etc.). If the Opt 2X succeeds, you can be sure the dev. community will be supporting the device with those sorts of specs.
But again, time will tell. I want to get (and like) the Nexus S as much as the next guy, but I'm waiting a bit. If the rumors are true, and that dual-cores will come early 2011, the wait is not far off. Also, the slew of issues the Nexus S seems to be having (a quick glance at the threads here will show tons of concerns) is serving as a huge deterrent. I actually like Samsung products, but it's becoming clearer and clearer that Google/Sammy rushed the Nexus S out.
Can you name 1 game, no strike that, 1 APP that doesn't run flawlessly on the Nexus S already? Honestly, having a more powerful processor is not the answer, the software is what needs work and it has been that way for over a year.
Software has been lacking while hardware keeps improving, which is why we're still stuck in 2006 when it comes to game development.
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Can you name 1 game, no strike that, 1 APP that doesn't run flawlessly on the Nexus S already? Honestly, having a more powerful processor is not the answer, the software is what needs work and it has been that way for over a year.
Software has been lacking while hardware keeps improving, which is why we're still stuck in 2006 when it comes to game development.
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people said the same thing when Nexus 1 was out then Galaxy S was released. they all run the same things. it just it runs better on Galaxy S.
and i assume the same thing will happen for future games for example.
its not just the aps. the thing has HDMI out to play video and games on ur TV. it plays videos at 1080P. it RECORD videos at 1080 and a better GPU . its just all rounder a better specs phone. and its less than 1 month away.
I'm just waiting for a phone that has a 4.3" screen that is smaller than the size of the Nexus S. Phones have way too much useless glass/plastic around the screen that serve no purpose. Performance I could care less, they all work fine for me. Hell, I thought the HTC Aria was pretty snappy when I had it.
Can you provide a link that proves it has a SAMOLED screen?
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plus it also had the super amoled screen. and a better GPU . its just all rounder a better specs phone. and its less than 1 month away.
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Can you provide a link that proves it has a SAMOLED screen?
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if have also the SAmoled, I'll buy it without hesitation when it comes out, if not samsung has a sgs2 with t2 etc. soon...
if 2x Optimus had a screen of 4.3 or 4.5 samold, and would be perfect grrr
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Forgive me for being offtopic for a moment, but I must ask, why are you here on these forums? Most of the posts I see from you are "LOL NEXUS S SUX!!!1!!11!" so I have to ask. Are you trying to convince people that they made a bad purchase and whatever phone you're currently using is better? Not trying to start a flamewar, merely curious about your intentions.
As far as your question regarding LG Optimus 2X, my answer is no. It runs what looks like a TouchWiz derivative and I detest TouchWiz. Its not that I hate all layovers, it's that I hate ugly/cartoony layovers. I don't mind SenseUI at all and actually wish that Google would incorporate some of their widgets into stock Android. And, personally, I don't understand the complaint about the lack of a microsd card on the Nexus S. Is 16gbs not enough? It is for me. Then again, I'm a guy who's had the same computer for the last two years and just barely made it halfway through the 500gb hard drive.
Dual-core processors are definitely the future, but nothing out there right now is optimized to take advantage of it and it will be some time before they do. Would today's apps run better? Probably. Would they run better to justify purchasing another phone? Not for me, yet. Also the 1080p video recording is neat, but I can count on one hand the number of times I've used the camcorder feature. Further, who the heck is gonna play phone games on their TVs? lol I can't imagine trying to play Angry Birds on a 42" screen.
On the topic of the screen, a quick googling of the specs seems to pull up it's just a TFT normal LCD screen like the MT4G, EVO, or Droid series. There was a picture LG sent to Phandroid showing their screen to be better than SAMOLED/Retina, but it was a photoshopped image made to generate buzz.
no not going to buy, because there is currently is no real world advantage to have a Dual Core phone. Hell most people dont even have dual core PCs
I'm rocking the OG G1 but I'm not having fun with the dated hardware. I love Biffmod 2.1 and it really breathed new life but I'd love to get on some new hardware.
The thing is, dual core and all these new devices are around the corner.
Should I wait? My brother in law has a T-Mobile account and I can just jump on it.
MT4G by far the most superior phone today now here is the thing if you are in USA then get MT4G but if you are elsewhere get DHD which share similar spec as MT4G along with 4.3" display but hand to hand with MT4G on benchmark its fried. If DHD-3G was supported in USA I would have got that but I am perfectly happy with MT4G now that I unleashed the beast within.
BTW before you buy MT4G make sure you get the superior screen, best way to do this is:
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Also be aware of FFC being off centered if it don't matter also check that the button does not creak and the light does not leak. HTC QC did very bad job with first batch of MT4G so becareful if you are buying used one.
Coming from a G1, I would say the G2 is the logical choice. With dual core phones coming out pretty soon, if I were in your position I would wait.
And what do you need dual core for? lol I use to think like that as I had HD2 7months before it came out in USA and my upgrade would have been dualcore based superphone now thats on startup in CES2011 but MT4G was quick gap and I can clearly see I don't need dualcore and no one avg end user need it. What app will support dual stack? Wait for them to perfect on it as more vendors get in and drive the price down a bit.
I would get the MT4G or G2. Dual cores aren't need with the speed you get with those two phones. Besides you can get G2 free now.
Yeah I perm-rooted my brother in law's Mytouch 4G and then flashed it with Evil's Desire rom, overclocked it to 1.4ghz and that thing is smoking fast. The screen looks amazing and after playing with it, I thought, "Why haven't I heard a lot about this phone?" Everywhere I go, everyone is talking about the iPhone 4 or the Nexus S but when I played with both, I just felt like the MyTouch 4G is snappier.
I have about a day to decide if I want to bite on the MyTouch 4G added to my brother in law's account.
What's the return policy with T-Mobile if I decide I want a different phone?
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Yeah I perm-rooted my brother in law's Mytouch 4G and then flashed it with Evil's Desire rom, overclocked it to 1.4ghz and that thing is smoking fast. The screen looks amazing and after playing with it, I thought, "Why haven't I heard a lot about this phone?" Everywhere I go, everyone is talking about the iPhone 4 or the Nexus S but when I played with both, I just felt like the MyTouch 4G is snappier.
I have about a day to decide if I want to bite on the MyTouch 4G added to my brother in law's account.
What's the return policy with T-Mobile if I decide I want a different phone?
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Was it a Nexus S? Because if so the comparison may be misrepresented. As far as I know iPhones can't really be made that much faster than stock but the Nexus S on the other hand, I'm pretty sure, is able to be overclocked and can probably outperform the overclocked MyTouch 4G. However, if the comparison was between overclocked versions of both phones then I believe you are good to go with your decision of the MyTouch as opposed to the other too.
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Was it a Nexus S? Because if so the comparison may be misrepresented. As far as I know iPhones can't really be made that much faster than stock but the Nexus S on the other hand, I'm pretty sure, is able to be overclocked and can probably outperform the overclocked MyTouch 4G. However, if the comparison was between overclocked versions of both phones then I believe you are good to go with your decision of the MyTouch as opposed to the other too.
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Care to back up your claims with applicable benchmarks? You obviously lost your mind, as native to native MT4G out runs NS clock per clock frequency. You think Hummingbird vs MSM8255 is even match? lol don't be silly MSM8255 is superior. But NS is superior in graphic I have to give credit where its due. As Adreno 205 GPU is slight by very small margin behind SGX540 GPU also NS has SAMOLED. In the overall quality MT4G takes out NS any days did I also mention NS is made by Samsung? Do I need to say more?
Read on QL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=921346
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Was it a Nexus S? Because if so the comparison may be misrepresented. As far as I know iPhones can't really be made that much faster than stock but the Nexus S on the other hand, I'm pretty sure, is able to be overclocked and can probably outperform the overclocked MyTouch 4G. However, if the comparison was between overclocked versions of both phones then I believe you are good to go with your decision of the MyTouch as opposed to the other too.
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I hate to correct you, but you're wrong.
An over-clocked MyTouch 4G even with T-Mobile rom runs circles around the Nexus S. The GPU is mighty on the Nexus S, but I'd like my phone to be capable of a good strong GPS signal as it will be my primary GPS unit.
The only reason I would remotely consider a Nexus S is vanilla Google experience and Android updates months ahead of competition. But when it comes to hardware, HTC did a much better job making an "Android flagship" than Google's choice and I guess it makes sense that Google doesn't select the same manufacturer year after year to keep manufacturers happy with Android.
Plus after trying out evil's roms, I'm rather confident the developers here at xda will keep a MyTouch 4G up to date.
The only question is whether to bite or wait for the 2011 wave of devices. I know everyone says "What will you need dual core for?" But that's exactly what developers are going to figure out lol. If the power is there, they're going to make applications that will utilize it.
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Yeah I perm-rooted my brother in law's Mytouch 4G and then flashed it with Evil's Desire rom, overclocked it to 1.4ghz and that thing is smoking fast. The screen looks amazing and after playing with it, I thought, "Why haven't I heard a lot about this phone?" Everywhere I go, everyone is talking about the iPhone 4 or the Nexus S but when I played with both, I just felt like the MyTouch 4G is snappier.
I have about a day to decide if I want to bite on the MyTouch 4G added to my brother in law's account.
What's the return policy with T-Mobile if I decide I want a different phone?
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The return policy of T-Mobile is listed below:
The website is support.t-mobile.com/doc/tm21963.xml?related=y&Referring%20Related%20DocID%20List%20Index=..
You have 14 calendar days (30 in CA) from the date of purchase to return purchased equipment to the point of purchase. Equipment must be in good working condition with original contents and packaging to be eligible for a refund of the purchase price. This return policy applies to the purchase of new equipment from T-Mobile or its authorized dealers. Proof of purchase is required. We may charge a restocking fee.
You have never mentioned how long you want to keep the phone for? If it's one year, you can just get a phone now. If you're waiting, you should keep in mind that the dual-cores coming out this first half of the year will probably lag behind (a bit) the dual-cores coming out in the second half of the year.
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Care to back up your claims with applicable benchmarks? You obviously lost your mind, as native to native MT4G out runs NS clock per clock frequency. You think Hummingbird vs MSM8255 is even match? lol don't be silly MSM8255 is superior. But NS is superior in graphic I have to give credit where its due. As Adreno 205 GPU is slight by very small margin behind SGX540 GPU also NS has SAMOLED. In the overall quality MT4G takes out NS any days did I also mention NS is made by Samsung? Do I need to say more?
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Hence, the reason I explicitly placed in bold the phrases "As far as I know" and "I'm pretty sure" to emphasize the conjecture in my post. From what I've read, yes the MyTouch can outperform in some tests, however, I have yet to come across anyone claiming that the MyTouch's processor outperforms the Nexus S to the degree that you claim.
I personally would wait for dual core devices myself.
Ya I have to agree with copius in this one, buying dual core now is waste of money as only thing you will win is bragging rights lol but still higher clock frequency so its your call. MT4G 4GB ROM (1.1GB actual) with 2nd gen Snapdragon MSM8255 + Adreno 205 GPU is enough for the MT4G for decent use for another 1-2years by application standard and memory extended service.
But TBH if I was you I would wait 1year to get dual core as I don't trust POS company other than HTC. When HTC drops dual core thats when you know its serious biz lol forget Samsung forget Moto, LG and all. Who controls and dominates the smartphone (new buzz now "superphone") world? Last I checked most flashship device on carriers were still HTC. If you need device now go with MT4G and if you like what you see when CES2011 device hits then drop that on eBay/CL and sell it.
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Hence, the reason I explicitly placed in bold the phrases "As far as I know" and "I'm pretty sure" to emphasize the conjecture in my post. From what I've read, yes the MyTouch can outperform in some tests, however, I have yet to come across anyone claiming that the MyTouch's processor outperforms the Nexus S to the degree that you claim.
I personally would wait for dual core devices myself.
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Let me put it this way I got MT4G just 2weeks ago due to my HD2 being stolen. When I was shopping for phones my top 2 pick was MT4G/DHD and NS did not even come in the map. Ill tell you why first of all NS is inferior in hardware capabilities in post 2k10/2k11 spec. Only thing it has going for itself is slightly better GPU and display which does not say much to anyone unless you are trying to win some paper spec war. Due to how memory is allocated and proc is computed MT4G comes superior, how do I know this? I did extended research. Look up my old username and do forum search as it will yield result. Biggest flaw of NS is its made by Samsung which has super history of being a joker vendor in mobile market for not providing anything to users. Also Google have for some silly reason took unofficial stand on NS hardware which is post mid 2010. Don't give me that NS will get updated before blah blah who cares? Thats why we are here on XDA thanks to the dev's. I can go on and on and rip apart the total spec as I did last month why NS is not to be considered any serious match as its just a mockup device on carriers lineup thats all. But hey man go get what you like lol I have yet to see any kid IRL who has ever won a debate with me. If NS was good people would be using it and my sig would say NS not MT4G.
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Hence, the reason I explicitly placed in bold the phrases "As far as I know" and "I'm pretty sure" to emphasize the conjecture in my post. From what I've read, yes the MyTouch can outperform in some tests, however, I have yet to come across anyone claiming that the MyTouch's processor outperforms the Nexus S to the degree that you claim.
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(I know this is a rather flaw way to compare performance) The myTouch scores better on Quadrant in terms of just every category (exception being GPU) with a skin on top of it and an earlier version of Android. When it gets Gingerbread, it will run circles around the Nexus S. Than again, we are comparing first generation (Hummingbird) to second generation (Snapdragon).
Back on topic, wait for dual cores to come and than do a comparison.
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(I know this is a rather flaw way to compare performance) The myTouch scores better on Quadrant in terms of just every category (exception being GPU) with a skin on top of it and an earlier version of Android. When it gets Gingerbread, it will run circles around the Nexus S. Than again, we are comparing first generation (Hummingbird) to second generation (Snapdragon).
Back on topic, wait for dual cores to come and than do a comparison.
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Thats what I was trying to tell him but then again whos fault is that Google picked Samsung jokery for NS's hardware? Hence why TMo was looking in to "Project Emerald" half year ago and picked device based on standards of today. Simply Google has always taken stance on that type of post mid 2010 hardware you would think they would have something to kick it to promote but on top of that they took out mSD lol comedians... I just wish luck to whoever owns NS good luck with Google/Samsung you will need it for whats coming to you specially the Vibrant 4G users who thinks its diff from regular Vibrant lol man o man Samsung sure knows how to get away with BS.
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Thats what I was trying to tell him but then again whos fault is that Google picked Samsung jokery for NS's hardware? Hence why TMo was looking in to "Project Emerald" half year ago and picked device based on standards of today. Simply Google has always taken stance on that type of post mid 2010 hardware you would think they would have something to kick it to promote but on top of that they took out mSD lol comedians... I just wish luck to whoever owns NS good luck with Google/Samsung you will need it for whats coming to you specially the Vibrant 4G users who thinks its diff from regular Vibrant lol man o man Samsung sure knows how to get away with BS.
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The second generation snapdragon chips are crazy fast, I was playing around with the G2 and it made my Nexus look slow. I really want to see a stock Android with the MSM 8255, the ones with skins on top of them (myTouch 4G, HTC Desire HD, Sony Xperia Arc) are already quick and responsive. Really want to see what they will do with dual core even though GPU might not be the best.
I would have to say that Samsung wins in screen technology though even if using whites kind of suck your battery dry.
I have never really owned a Samsung product of any kind. Don't play on getting on in the future.
Hello new user here I was searching in yahoo and came across this forum. I myself own google's nexus s and my girlfriend just recivered her mytouch 4g last week. I had chance to compare both of the device and I can tell you STHNS and canadariot2312 is correct. I am trying to now sell nexus s on craigslist and trying to get mytouch 4g as I am very impressed with it though even lower price by joining my girlfriends plan.
You should definitely keep up with your account here and read a lot of the information here. Right off the bat, I can tell you that this forum breathes life into devices that are a couple years old, unlocks performance and features on new devices such as making your phone a wifi router and blocking ads and they even put operating systems on phones that don't normally belong there.
Check it out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=796
My brother in law asked me to work on his Mytouch 4G. I permanently rooted it, installed a custom rom, over-clocked it to 1.4GHZ (It can go up to 1.7). Now his phone doesn't have junk software, it looks amazing, is blazing fast and he can even play Playstation games on it.
Welcome to XDA!
Just wait! it'll be worth it
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I'm rocking the OG G1 but I'm not having fun with the dated hardware. I love Biffmod 2.1 and it really breathed new life but I'd love to get on some new hardware.
The thing is, dual core and all these new devices are around the corner.
Should I wait? My brother in law has a T-Mobile account and I can just jump on it.
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Buy a used MT4G from Craigslist, love it for 3-6 months, then sell it for exactly what you paid for it and go get a dual-core phone.
I bought my mt3g almost a year ago for $200 and sold it about 3 months ago for the same price. I'm wishing I'd bought my MT4G off contract, but whatever, I'm happy now.
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And what do you need dual core for? lol I use to think like that as I had HD2 7months before it came out in USA and my upgrade would have been dualcore based superphone now thats on startup in CES2011 but MT4G was quick gap and I can clearly see I don't need dualcore and no one avg end user need it. What app will support dual stack? Wait for them to perfect on it as more vendors get in and drive the price down a bit.
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I agree. Especially with a custom ROM the MT4G is so blazing fast I can't even think of wtf you'd need more speed for. I don't even have SetCPU installed. This thing is so stupidly fast I honestly don't see the point.
Why the rest of you are overclocking this thing is completely beyond me.
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I would get the MT4G or G2. Dual cores aren't need with the speed you get with those two phones. Besides you can get G2 free now.
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Should have quoted you before myself, lol.
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Yeah I perm-rooted my brother in law's Mytouch 4G and then flashed it with Evil's Desire rom, overclocked it to 1.4ghz and that thing is smoking fast. The screen looks amazing and after playing with it, I thought, "Why haven't I heard a lot about this phone?" Everywhere I go, everyone is talking about the iPhone 4 or the Nexus S but when I played with both, I just felt like the MyTouch 4G is snappier.
I have about a day to decide if I want to bite on the MyTouch 4G added to my brother in law's account.
What's the return policy with T-Mobile if I decide I want a different phone?
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California is 30 days to return your phone AND REVERSE YOUR UPGRADE. The rest of the country is 14 I think.
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You should definitely keep up with your account here and read a lot of the information here. Right off the bat, I can tell you that this forum breathes life into devices that are a couple years old, unlocks performance and features on new devices such as making your phone a wifi router and blocking ads and they even put operating systems on phones that don't normally belong there.
Check it out:
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My brother in law asked me to work on his Mytouch 4G. I permanently rooted it, installed a custom rom, over-clocked it to 1.4GHZ (It can go up to 1.7). Now his phone doesn't have junk software, it looks amazing, is blazing fast and he can even play Playstation games on it.
Welcome to XDA!
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This is very true. The reason I learned about rooting in the first place is because my MT3G (also a 32b device) was painfully slow and I wanted to run Navi and Pandora simultaneously. OEM 2.2.1 + ezterry's 614 kernel with the new radio and spl (14mb additional ram) and SetCPU 528-614 on-demand made it a great daily driver!
But after using my MT4G for one day I couldn't even stand the MT3G anymore.
As I said above - BUY AN MT4G ON CL FOR $300 THEN SELL IT 3 MONTHS LATER FOR $300 if you really want a dual-core phone. Absolutely no loss.
I think i will get a G2. I'll wait for dual core if money is not important.
Im opening this because my ild one was closed for no reason. Never was contacted by a mod or anything. It was just closed without reason.
Ao basically im able to open up a new contract on ATT. Im just not sure what to get though. The choices i had above are what i was thinking but im open to suggestions and opinions.
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I'm not sure why it got closed either. Lately it seems the mods are a little trigger happy on the lock in the general section. Seems like a perfectly legitimate topic that fits well into the rules of general...
You already know my opinion though . Wait for more info on the GSIII. The Note has been out too long (in my opinion) and therefore the hardware is a little underwhelming. It seems the GSIII or One X will fare better in terms of updates to new versions of Android too, with both being the flagship. Like you said, the GSIII is bound to have a big ole battery, and the One X plagued by the same old battery issues of HTC. Add in the fact that you can't replace the battery, and that's a big problem.
By the way, a good site to look for info on the GSIII is linked below. They add updates quite often at the bottom of the article.
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...laxy-s3-release-date-news-and-rumours-1051525
Update: Samsung's marketing agency looks like it might have dropped the ball, reportedly confirming that the Galaxy S3 will hit stores worldwide in April.
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So it looks to be an April release at best, other info points to May 22 as a day of significance.
We simply are tired of ppl not reading the rules, I´m moving this to where it belongs
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We simply are tired of ppl not reading the rules, I´m moving this to where it belongs
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Well where does this belong? It seems like it fits in general. And no one said anything about it being in the wrong section. If someone would have said something when they locked it, i would have opened the new one up in the correct section. But i recieved no notice as to why it was locked or who locked it.
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I just feel like this thread offers more of a discussion (general) than a simple question (Q&A). Stumpy, maybe next time lose the question mark at the end and put [discussion] before the title. I suppose the fact that your main intent is to help with your next phone might've been why it got moved.
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I just feel like this thread offers more of a discussion (general) than a simple question (Q&A). Stumpy, maybe next time lose the question mark at the end and put [discussion] before the title. I suppose the fact that your main intent is to help with your next phone might've been why it got moved.
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yeah, i to feel its more of a general discussion on what phones on AT&T are gunna be good. im not straight up asking a question. i want people to give opinions and help me figure out what phone ill be sticking with for the next few years( well at least for a few months seeing as its me)
SGS3 vs OneX vs Note?
Here's my take on things:
Note is immediately disqualified since it simply belongs in the previous generation. It can still run almost anything, if not all, apps on the Play Store though.
SGS3 vs OneX! Now here's where we get a hard time! Anyway, I'd go for the OneX because it's already available And since your on T-Mob then you'll be ending up with the Krait version which I actually consider superior to the 4-PLUS-1 NVIDIA chip. BUT if SGS3 comes out with a 32nm or a similar 28nm architecture then it's gonna be a no-brainer for me and go for the SGS3. 40-45nm is simply no match for <32nm chips.
Plus: The camera on the OneX kinda sucks compared to the SGS2, so I'm guessing the cam on the SGS3 will own it.
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SGS3 vs OneX vs Note?
Here's my take on things:
Note is immediately disqualified since it simply belongs in the previous generation. It can still run almost anything, if not all, apps on the Play Store though.
SGS3 vs OneX! Now here's where we get a hard time! Anyway, I'd go for the OneX because it's already available And since your on T-Mob then you'll be ending up with the Krait version which I actually consider superior to the 4-PLUS-1 NVIDIA chip. BUT if SGS3 comes out with a 32nm or a similar 28nm architecture then it's gonna be a no-brainer for me and go for the SGS3. 40-45nm is simply no match for <32nm chips.
Plus: The camera on the OneX kinda sucks compared to the SGS2, so I'm guessing the cam on the SGS3 will own it.
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Where did you get the idea im kn T-mo?
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SGS3 vs OneX vs Note?
Here's my take on things:
Note is immediately disqualified since it simply belongs in the previous generation. It can still run almost anything, if not all, apps on the Play Store though.
SGS3 vs OneX! Now here's where we get a hard time! Anyway, I'd go for the OneX because it's already available And since your on T-Mob then you'll be ending up with the Krait version which I actually consider superior to the 4-PLUS-1 NVIDIA chip. BUT if SGS3 comes out with a 32nm or a similar 28nm architecture then it's gonna be a no-brainer for me and go for the SGS3. 40-45nm is simply no match for <32nm chips.
Plus: The camera on the OneX kinda sucks compared to the SGS2, so I'm guessing the cam on the SGS3 will own it.
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I have the AT&T note and I love it. Yeah the screen is huge but man it is beautiful. As far as speed it does everything I want it to without any slowdowns. There are OC'ed kernels for it that can really make this sucker fly if you want high benchmarks. For me, it runs perfectly the way it is.
I would love to get my hands on the SGS3 but by the time it land on AT&T store shelves it will probably be Q4 of this year or sometime next year. Remember when the SGS2 came out? That phone hit the Asian and European market well before it hit the states. And when it got here it kinda lost its luster.
Lastly the HTC One X. I'm just getting real tire of HTC. The phone is beautiful and comes with some nice hardware BUT no micro SD or removable battery is deal breaker for me. I don't know what they were thinking. Its not too difficult adding these options but they carelessly neglected it.
And please people don't start telling me that 16gb of internal memory is enough. Maybe its enough for you but it's not enough for me. I don't tell you what you want so don't tell me what I want.
Just my 2 cents.
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I have the AT&T note and I love it. Yeah the screen is huge but man it is beautiful. As far as speed it does everything I want it to without any slowdowns. There are OC'ed kernels for it that can really make this sucker fly if you want high benchmarks. For me, it runs perfectly the way it is.
I would love to get my hands on the SGS3 but by the time it land on AT&T store shelves it will probably be Q4 of this year or sometime next year. Remember when the SGS2 came out? That phone hit the Asian and European market well before it hit the states. And when it got here it kinda lost its luster.
Lastly the HTC One X. I'm just getting real tire of HTC. The phone is beautiful and comes with some nice hardware BUT no micro SD or removable battery is deal breaker for me. I don't know what they were thinking. Its not too difficult adding these options but they carelessly neglected it.
And please people don't start telling me that 16gb of internal memory is enough. Maybe its enough for you but it's not enough for me. I don't tell you what you want so don't tell me what I want.
Just my 2 cents.
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Yeah i want something that can really fly with performance. I remeber when i first got this score with my desire hd a few months back
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I want something that can kick ass. And i think thatll be the gs3. Hopefully release isnt far off
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I think it is a matter of timing. If you already have a fairly recent dual core LTE device then the One X will only be an incremental step up. Faster, yes, but not as big a difference as if you were going from a single core phone to the One X. If the S3 lives up to expectations with a new generation quad core, however, it could be a significant increase in performance (final specs yet to be released...).
Problem is we dont know when the S3 is coming out, especially not in the states. If they do announce the release date during their press event on May 22nd it will still be at least 2-3 months before it makes it to the US.
For me, my old Captivate just hard-bricked and I need a new phone ASAP, so I will be getting the One X as soon as it comes out. If I had one of the newer previously mentioned devices (including the note), I would wait and compare.
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I think it is a matter of timing. If you already have a fairly recent dual core LTE device then the One X will only be an incremental step up. Faster, yes, but not as big a difference as if you were going from a single core phone to the One X. If the S3 lives up to expectations with a new generation quad core, however, it could be a significant increase in performance (final specs yet to be released...).
Problem is we dont know when the S3 is coming out, especially not in the states. If they do announce the release date during their press event on May 22nd it will still be at least 2-3 months before it makes it to the US.
For me, my old Captivate just hard-bricked and I need a new phone ASAP, so I will be getting the One X as soon as it comes out. If I had one of the newer previously mentioned devices (including the note), I would wait and compare.
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yeah i had a rep at att sign me up so when they come available for preorder ill know. if i dont like it ill just trade for an s3
Why should we compare current devices to a device that virtually doesn't exist yet?
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Why should we compare current devices to a device that virtually doesn't exist yet?
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Because it does exist. Just because there is no official announcement doesnt mean its not out there. You dont like it, then get out of the thread
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Why should we compare current devices to a device that virtually doesn't exist yet?
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exactly why I said if I could wait I would. The Samsung Galaxy line has been the leader for the last two years, but HTC is trying to reclaim the throne as the best smart phone producer (so they have something to prove).
The S3 could blow everyone else out of the water, or it could just be in equal running with all the others coming out this year (meaning it would be a matter of taste at that point). "Could" is the key word here...
I have been thinking of buying the Tegra 3 version from overseas it says on most review sites that its compatible with ATT. Dont have LTE in my area so thats not usefull to me. Anyone thought about that option yet.
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I have been thinking of buying the Tegra 3 version from overseas it says on most review sites that its compatible with ATT. Dont have LTE in my area so thats not usefull to me. Anyone thought about that option yet.
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Tegra 3 sucks. Its already been shown that the s4 beats it. Plus the s4 requires less power. And dont give me the stupid quad core automatically is better than dual core argument either. And this isnt even rated to why this was started. Thats not an option for me. Im nlt going to go shell out 700 for a phone that sucks compared to one i can get for $200
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very good tutorial
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umm......
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Because it does exist. Just because there is no official announcement doesnt mean its not out there. You dont like it, then get out of the thread
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I didn't say it didn't exist, it just virtually doesn't exist. I know your excitement is getting the better of you, but outside of the baseless rumors you hear every other day; nothing about the phone is known other than it's going to be here one day. It makes sense to make a comparison once the specs are officially ripped and posted for inspection.
Samsung, in certain areas such as display technology, and their Exnyos Quad Core Processors is unsurpassed. They are not "Perfect" but have as much of a claim to "Best Mobile Phone Available" as HTC does with the One X. Each have their strengths, but I see Samsung as a better device overall, a really close call, and a tough choice since I am, and have been an HTC fanbboy all the way back to HD2, a game changing device, as the first 4.3" large screen device in the US, and one of the 1st Gig Processor's (THE first in a Windows Phone. A device so awesome, I switched carriers to get it.
But yeah, Samsung should team up with an Audio brand like HTC did with Beats, and a get a bit more high end material into their designs (read aluminum, ceramic, etc.) would really sweeten what's obviously top gear gear, LOL! I now have to make a choice between the SGIII or the Galaxy Note, two amazing devices, OR... waiting on Galaxy Note II. Sigh, such a tough situ to be in, LOL. As long as I am daydreaming, can I wish that somehow Samsung (or ANY SOC manufacturer) licks the LTE on Quad Core incompatibility? I need to do more reading to understand why this is so, I mean that the current crop being incompatible with LTE is what it is, but the fact no one is touting a new, compatible quad core/LTE is what I need to understand better, but whatever the reason, it is seriously messing with my mobile nirvana. But for that, the SGSIII might be our next President; it sure would have capabilities beyond the current candidates, that much is obvious. Sigh.
I have an S3 right next to me and its blazing fast, display looks really nice and overall better to have it in person rather than just looking at pics. The audio on this thing is really loud when put on max and the display @720p watching videos is pretty nice as well.
What kinda sux is the box is "black" but the pebble blue model comes with white earbuds, slightly modified one than the skyrocket's, thought it would come with black ones , the white model actually looks nice too.
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I have an S3 right next to me and its blazing fast, display looks really nice and overall better to have it in person rather than just looking at pics. The audio on this thing is really loud when put on max and the display @720p watching videos is pretty nice as well.
What kinda sux is the box is "black" but the pebble blue model comes with white earbuds, slightly modified one than the skyrocket's, thought it would come with black ones , the white model actually looks nice too.
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What kind of finish does it have? Glossy?
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What kind of finish does it have? Glossy?
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lol sorry for my bad pic skills, running on the new leak so didnt change the settings
I love my skyrocket as well. My upgrade wont happen until May of next year, so I will see what samsung has available at that time. Depending period on the release of the G Note 2 which is what I am leaning towards. Also waiting on the confirmation of the nexus models coming out later this year.
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I love my skyrocket as well. My upgrade wont happen until May of next year, so I will see what samsung has available at that time. Depending period on the release of the G Note 2 which is what I am leaning towards. Also waiting on the confirmation of the nexus models coming out later this year.
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Yeah theres really no big reason to get the S3 as the Skyrocket is still a fully capable phone +/- features that we probably won't use a lot yet and knowing Samsung they'll pump out new revisions by the end of the year. Also waiting on that new Nexus model, want to see whats new with Jellybean
My bro and his gf both got S3s last night as their upgrade contract ended, they were both iphone4 converts and they both really like the new phone, mainly because of how big the screen is and the quality of the phone overall, it doesnt feel as expensive as the iphones but they sure beat it in everything else
Might not be the best comparison pic but this is:
Skyrocket vs Iphone4 vs S3
No doubt the iphone will have the most neutral color (IPS). The blacks on S3 is pretty crazy. When we compared whites Skyrocket vs S3, the Skyrocket seemed to have a more "cool" temperature while the S3 was closer to neutral.
Wifi Analyzer, this is AOKP (Skyrocket) vs Stock ICS (S3) so not sure if there are any custom settings thats causing the lighter black.
Another comparison pic of the colors.
Again both are pretty good with colors in comparison but remember the S3 has a higher pixel density as well as a 720p display and... I don't really have a DSLR to get accurate shots so it can be a little bias, just a rough comparison. But you just have to see it in person if you want to see real comparison.
Samsung will have another flag ship phone by September.if we try and keep up we would go broke.within 4 months last year they released infuse galaxy s2 and then the skyrocket...thanks Samsung
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Samsung will have another flag ship phone by September.if we try and keep up we would go broke.within 4 months last year they released infuse galaxy s2 and then the skyrocket...thanks Samsung
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I hear Korea's S3 will have quad core + LTE + 2gb ram
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Samsung will have another flag ship phone by September.if we try and keep up we would go broke.within 4 months last year they released infuse galaxy s2 and then the skyrocket...thanks Samsung
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lol, so true
True, but it's not like the consumers (us) are really complaining. Those of us that can afford it, change our phones like crazy. The frequent releases of new Android phones, and better technology in them, also converts more iPhone users
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Yes international versions have quad Att doesn't because if the lte chip.honestly I highly doubt that we would actually feel the difference because this skyrocket is super smooth and I'll trade two cores for the lte speed any day IMO
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I would trade LTE speeds for more ram
Most phone apps barely even use more than one thread yet alone 2, quad core would just be overkill. But I do like the S4 chip, its power efficient, fast and runs cool. :good:
Those of us less fortunate than others can't afford a new phone every few months so we have to wait until we can get 2 year upgrades enjoy you're 4.8 inch galaxy s2
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You have a point but that lte on the go is awesome but only if you live in a lte area.I'm in the SF bay area and I get lte everywhere
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Yeah, my area doesn't even have LTE so its kinda useless right now, some areas though have them but I'm also limited with the data plan as I was late in getting one so I have to pay new prices. My bro is paying the same as I am and he gets 2GB data while I get 300mb I'll try to see if they can change me to the old 2GB but paying this much for 300mb is a rip. Yes I'm still a poor college student and I will be eating ramen all this year :silly: . Some people are crazy enough to go with the International version (buy it) and get the $10 data plan (ATT might catch on to this).
And yeah there really isnt any big reason to upgrade as the Skyrocket is a fast phone. The more phones they dish out the better your next one will be :good: For example with computers I went from an i7 1st gen to an i5 2nd gen. 2nd gen run faster per clock, less heat, more power efficient and can OC higher.
3 different versions of the S3 on first release is just silly.
International: Quad Core + Non-LTE + 1GB RAM
US/Canada: Dual Core + LTE + 2GB RAM
Korea's special edition: Quad Core + LTE + 2GB RAM
But overall I prefer the S4 Snapdragon 28nm over the Exynos 32nm. The 2GB of ram helps a lot especially with multitasking and loading videos. Even with the stock ICS it loads about 1.1~gigs of the 1.6gb available which means the phone doesnt always have to stress on clearing the ram as fast as the 1GB versions.
Ya all of that lol
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Yeah, my area doesn't even have LTE so its kinda useless right now, some areas though have them but I'm also limited with the data plan as I was late in getting one so I have to pay new prices. My bro is paying the same as I am and he gets 2GB data while I get 300mb I'll try to see if they can change me to the old 2GB but paying this much for 300mb is a rip. Yes I'm still a poor college student and I will be eating ramen all this year :silly: . Some people are crazy enough to go with the International version (buy it) and get the $10 data plan (ATT might catch on to this).
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Since you don't have LTE, have you considered T-Mobile? If you're willing to wait and buy a phone outright after it's been out for awhile, you can usually find a good deal (or just get a G-Nex from the play store). From there, their value plans are pretty cheap... even better if you can get in on a family plan. Here in west LA, T-Mo's HSPA+ speeds are actually on par w/ AT&T's LTE.
I'm thinking of waiting for my ETF to get low enough, and then bail for T-Mo (unless ATT improves their speeds and coverage in LA and/or SF). Right now, my family plan is 500 min (total) anytime minutes and 2GB for $55/person. On T-Mo, 1000 min and 2GB = $35/person. That's a $480 saving over two years! The wildcard is how cheap you can get your phone for.
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Since you don't have LTE, have you considered T-Mobile? If you're willing to wait and buy a phone outright after it's been out for awhile, you can usually find a good deal (or just get a G-Nex from the play store). From there, their value plans are pretty cheap... even better if you can get in on a family plan. Here in west LA, T-Mo's HSPA+ speeds are actually on par w/ AT&T's LTE.
I'm thinking of waiting for my ETF to get low enough, and then bail for T-Mo (unless ATT improves their speeds and coverage in LA and/or SF). Right now, my family plan is 500 min (total) anytime minutes and 2GB for $55/person. On T-Mo, 1000 min and 2GB = $35/person. That's a $480 saving over two years! The wildcard is how cheap you can get your phone for.
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Yeah for where I live right now ATT has good signal but if I were to move then I would probably consider another carrier, when I was living in Gainesville, FL the signal for ATT wasnt that great so most people went for T-mobile, some areas have worse signal. All my cousins are on Sprint and whenever I call them with my cellphone/house phone it takes like 4-5 rings = 1 ring for them so most of the time I pick carriers based on the area After I graduate (in a year? ) I'll probably switch over to another carrier or if I decide to move to another state I'll consider it. :good:
For now I guess I'm okay with wifi since I'm around school/home/public wifi a lot I don't have to worry as much on the data usage. Still going to try to go to the ATT store to see if they can give me the 2GB plan that my bro pays for +$18 while I'm on the 300mb and I pay +$25 hope they'll be lenient since we've been customers since Cingular days.
I am mixed on the S3 honestly. I know that it is a better phone than my Skyrocket, but I am sure the Quad core phones will be out later this year. I keep telling myself to wait, but then again I do not game on my phone at all so will the quad core really make that big a difference? I can only imagine that there will be a lot of great ROMs for the GS3 as well. I have yet to play with a GS3 yet, so I am sure that will help my decision.
I was just curious if anyone knew or has a link that would show how the relay has sold (units) worldwide? Especially versus other phones. I ask this because my hunch is that initially sales were slow for this phone, but I'm willing to bet sales have doubled or tripled since being offered to other countries.
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I was just curious if anyone knew or has a link that would show how the relay has sold (units) worldwide? Especially versus other phones. I ask this because my hunch is that initially sales were slow for this phone, but I'm willing to bet sales have doubled or tripled since being offered to other countries.
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And I have goggled this to no avail. ?
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And I have goggled this to no avail. ?
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This is the kind of data you never get... Manufacturers are more interested in doing curved-screen phones that nobody wants than having a single qwerty model.
I'm in Europe, where there haven't been new qwerty models for 2-3 years now, and I get people asking my about my phone all the time. There is a market, manufacturers just don't care...
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This is the kind of data you never get... Manufacturers are more interested in doing curved-screen phones that nobody wants than having a single qwerty model.
I'm in Europe, where there haven't been new qwerty models for 2-3 years now, and I get people asking my about my phone all the time. There is a market, manufacturers just don't care...
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This. A 100x this. I'm still rocking my Epic 4G for now, and I still get people asking me about my phone, what is it, where I got it from, etc. And I'm talking both here in the US and in Mexico. There is a market for it. I think the manufacturers, instead of listening to what consumers want, are trying to steer consumers in a certain direction. But if there was a keyboard version of the Galaxy S4 or Note 3 (and not some crappy bluetooth addon), I'd figure out a way to buy it asap, and so would a lot of other people.
But to answer the thread, that's a good question and something I've been wondering myself. This seems like a great mid-range phone.
I just got mine for $160 new on ebay, so I'm guessing the demand for the phone wasn't as big as they were hoping (it came in a sketchy opened Samsung box with no manual so it may actually be a refurb but still I'd say it should be selling for more than that since it's not that old). Kind of depressing because so far it seems like a really nice phone, aside from all the bloatware it comes with stock. Just really irritating how all the new phones coming out are pretty much all the same - thin touchscreen only phones with slightly varying sizes and specs.
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I just got mine for $160 new on ebay, so I'm guessing the demand for the phone wasn't as big as they were hoping (it came in a sketchy opened Samsung box with no manual so it may actually be a refurb but still I'd say it should be selling for more than that since it's not that old). Kind of depressing because so far it seems like a really nice phone, aside from all the bloatware it comes with stock. Just really irritating how all the new phones coming out are pretty much all the same - thin touchscreen only phones with slightly varying sizes and specs.
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Agreed.
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I'm in the market for a new phone and sadly I feel as though my QWERTY reign may come to an end. I've owned just about every gsm qwerty phone over the past 3 years and there's absolutely nothing to choose from anymore.
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I'm in the market for a new phone and sadly I feel as though my QWERTY reign may come to an end. I've owned just about every gsm qwerty phone over the past 3 years and there's absolutely nothing to choose from anymore.
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I feel your pain. I've come to the conclusion that the Relay 4G may be the last qwerty phone I ever get myself. The only thing that can be done now is to develop a decent bluetooth keyboard/case, similar to what is available for the Galaxy S4.
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QWERTY isn't completely dead yet... T-Mobile is now offering LG's F3Q. That being said, I'd love to see a true high-end QWERTY, but I'm not holding my breath.
I saw that, but its got almost the same specs as the relay, droid 4, and the photon q. ?
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QWERTY isn't completely dead yet... T-Mobile is now offering LG's F3Q.
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I'm not crazy about the color (blue? ), but otherwise that seems pretty cool. I'll keep my eye on it. Looks like it will come out tomorrow.
That being said, I'd love to see a true high-end QWERTY, but I'm not holding my breath.
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I saw that, but its got almost the same specs as the relay, droid 4, and the photon q. ?
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Yeah I doubt we'll ever get a keyboard phone as powerful as an S4 or Note 3. That's why I think the answer is to make bluetooth keyboard peripherals. Though at least mid-range (i.e. affordable) keyboard phones aren't completely going away. I'm guessing the LG F3Q will be the new standard barer for [GSM] keyboard phones.
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I saw that, but its got almost the same specs as the relay, droid 4, and the photon q. ?
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It has a huge battery. specs look great. What most people don't realize is the specs have far exceeded our needs for some time now. So even a "basic" dual core is more than you'll ever need
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It has a huge battery. specs look great. What most people don't realize is the specs have far exceeded our needs for some time now. So even a "basic" dual core is more than you'll ever need
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I have the non-QWERTY F3, and the battery is amazing indeed. Even if I use the phone fairly heavily, it's rare for me to see the battery below 50% at the end of the day, and I often see it over 75%. It puts the lie to the whole "we can't put a big enough battery in it and make it replaceable" schtick that we keep getting from the likes of Motorola and Apple. I will not buy a phone with a non-replaceable battery.
The only real negative for the F3 is that it has very limited internal flash, but it does at least have a MicroSD slot. Some apps can be moved to the SD card, but others have the "Move to SD" button grayed out. My guess is that apps that (may) run services at startup can't be moved.
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It has a huge battery. specs look great. What most people don't realize is the specs have far exceeded our needs for some time now. So even a "basic" dual core is more than you'll ever need
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actually, the only thing i really dislike and would like to improve in relay is the terrible screen resolution. still, it was not enough to convince me to buy galaxy s4 with this keyboard
i wonder why samsung did not make a decent bluetooth/nfc keyboard for galaxy s4. many people would buy it and buy s4 - double profit at half cost
lg f3q - apart from the battery, specs are not really an improvement from samsung relay and the same terrible screen resolution. unimpressive
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lg f3q - apart from the battery, specs are not really an improvement from samsung relay and the same terrible screen resolution. unimpressive
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Actually there are improvements, just not as obvious ones.
The F3Q compared to the Relay has:
Bigger battery
Physically smaller size (even though screen is the same size)
Better graphics
Bluetooth 4.0
Better camera (supports 1080p)
Newer generation processor
Dual band wifi
And of course newer and shinier
These are all small differences alone, but they add up to a decent upgrade.
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Actually there are improvements, just not as obvious ones.
The F3Q compared to the Relay has:
Bigger battery
Physically smaller size (even though screen is the same size)
Better graphics
Bluetooth 4.0
Better camera (supports 1080p)
Newer generation processor
Dual band wifi
And of course newer and shinier
These are all small differences alone, but they add up to a decent upgrade.
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1080p is a big deal. I can't find anything about internal memory, though, but I would assume its at least the same as the Relay 4G.
Like I said, this may be the new standard barer for keyboard cell phones. Just wish it came in black.
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Actually there are improvements, just not as obvious ones.
The F3Q compared to the Relay has:
Bigger battery
Physically smaller size (even though screen is the same size)
Better graphics
Bluetooth 4.0
Better camera (supports 1080p)
Newer generation processor
Dual band wifi
And of course newer and shinier
These are all small differences alone, but they add up to a decent upgrade
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cpu&gpu - i do not have enough data to directly compare msm8260a (relay) to msm8930 (f3g ? ). still, without bigger resolution the improvement may be difficult to notice. lower energy consumption maybe?
camera - i do not really care
bluetooth, wifi and battery are an improvement, but with the appalling 480x800 not enough to encourage me to upgrade.
improvement, yes, but still not impressive.
We're supporting Bluetooth 4.0 and upgraded wifi on CyanogenMod. The only thing that in my mind stands out about the F3Q is the better gpu, not for performance's sake (at 480x800 it's not gonna make much of a difference) but the fact that qcom is barely supporting the old gpu anymore (the drivers we're using on CyanogenMod are 9 months old, badly outdated)
The other thing is the F3Q is reputed to only have 1 gig of free internal storage (as opposed to 5 gigs on the Relay)
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We're supporting Bluetooth 4.0 and upgraded wifi on CyanogenMod. The only thing that in my mind stands out about the F3Q is the better gpu, not for performance's sake (at 480x800 it's not gonna make much of a difference) but the fact that qcom is barely supporting the old gpu anymore (the drivers we're using on CyanogenMod are 9 months old, badly outdated)
The other thing is the F3Q is reputed to only have 1 gig of free internal storage (as opposed to 5 gigs on the Relay)
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Ah ok. Yeah Internal Storage is a big deal, even with an SD Card. Thanks for putting things in perspective.
What happened to the F3Q launch?
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