http://www.tmonews.com/2012/09/t-mobile-announces-the-galaxy-s-relay-4g-qwerty-keyboard-and-all/
A lot of us here on XDA have been anticipating this phone's release. Turns out the specs are almost the same as our old MT4GS. Let your anger out here if you wish OR are some going for it anyways? Also, looks like Tmo USA is getting the Note 2. Are some gonna just hope on that instead? If any touch screen device can replace a QWERTY, its definitely the Note. Plenty of screen real estate for typing. What do you guys think?
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Seems like tmobile made a mistake. Surprise surprise!
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/09/t-mobile-confirms-snapdragon-s4-chip-inside-galaxy-s-relay-4g/
Still lacks a decent camera (I know MP don't mean everything. Lens quality and image processor matter much more.), extra ram, etc.... I may wait for the Note 2, the alleged 5 Nexuseseses, blah blah blah before deciding for sure. I still am enjoying my DS especially since CM9 runs butter smooth and flawless now
I don't see any advantage on this other than having support from tmobile & has official ICS ROM. Also does this have FM Radio? I only hunt phones with qwerty keyboard and FM radio prebuilt
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I don't see any advantage on this other than having support from tmobile & has official ICS ROM. Also does this have FM Radio? I only hunt phones with qwerty keyboard and FM radio prebuilt
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I agree... guess I should have clarified in the op that the original guess/rumor was that this phone would have 720 HD 4" screen and a S4 processor. That's why I posted the release info cause it was such a downer plus a few of us had been waiting on confirmation here. I'm not sure if Samsung normally has FM radio though. I'm using stuff like Sirius XM/Pandora so I hardly touch that FM dial anymore. It seems like this is a lower mid range model instead of the SGSIII with a keyboard that it was rumored to be
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I agree... guess I should have clarified in the op that the original guess/rumor was that this phone would have 720 HD 4" screen and a S4 processor. That's why I posted the release info cause it was such a downer plus a few of us had been waiting on confirmation here. I'm not sure if Samsung normally has FM radio though. I'm using stuff like Sirius XM/Pandora so I hardly touch that FM dial anymore. It seems like this is a lower mid range model instead of the SGSIII with a keyboard that it was rumored to be
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galaxy S Series has FM Radios built into them that's why I asked.
difference in performance between s3 & s4 processors is just 15%. The 1GB RAM & 4inch display seems to be catchy but keeps me thinking if the 15% processing power + 250mb addin ram would convince me in spending another few hundred bucks?
The 4inch screen is a turn off for me I find 3.7 perfect already.
Also what about the camera?
And regarding NFC I don't find it very useful(at least in our country where most people are still stuck with no OS phones.
So... For me unless I render my phone unuseable or a new phone has something which would make a big difference compared to my current phone I guess I'll be sticking with my current one.
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galaxy S Series has FM Radios built into them that's why I asked.
difference in performance between s3 & s4 processors is just 15%. The 1GB RAM & 4inch display seems to be catchy but keeps me thinking if the 15% processing power + 250mb addin ram would convince me in spending another few hundred bucks?
The 4inch screen is a turn off for me I find 3.7 perfect already.
Also what about the camera?
And regarding NFC I don't find it very useful(at least in our country where most people are still stuck with no OS phones.
So... For me unless I render my phone unuseable or a new phone has something which would make a big difference compared to my current phone I guess I'll be sticking with my current one.
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Hehehhe! I hear ya... I was more interested in the S4's power saving/gpu improvement vs the cpu performance. I've heard that range from 15 to 30% I guess it just depends on each application, really... I think 4" is the perfect size for a qwerty. I'd might even like to see bigger lol! (Probably would a huge ass brick, right?) Yeah, I don't know much about Samsung (had no idea about the FM on the Galaxy models) but as long as HTC keeps the attitude that qwertys are dead... Samsung is my second choice, I guess. I'm still liking my DS for now. My contract is up in October and this was gonna be my upgrade. Oh well... I'll hang around for the next or pick up that Note 2. NFC hasn't really picked up anywhere even in the old USA. Well, maybe a few of the bigger cities use them more so... I don't know.
I might still want to jump ship to the Samsung slider.
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Since my MT4GS is less than 1 year old, I'm going to wait until the next Nexus debuts. I've decided that from now on I will only buy Nexus products. I'm sick of the bull**** from HTC and other manufacturers and their lame-ass excuses for not producing an update. HTC can suck my ***. I will miss Sense UI, though. I'm one of the few, it seems, that prefers how Sense works and looks.
I will probably getting the Note. Now that my phone got bricked about two months ago by the faulty recovery and all HTC has been doing of late is churning out excuses instead of making updates for this device.
I will shelve my brick so it works as a reminder that I shoudl never buy another HTC device again.
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I will probably getting the Note. Now that my phone got bricked about two months ago by the faulty recovery and all HTC has been doing of late is churning out excuses instead of making updates for this device.
I will shelve my brick so it works as a reminder that I shoudl never buy another HTC device again.
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Sorry man I have been so busy as of lately, ill pm you my address if you still wanna send it so we can get on HTC about fixing
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Sorry man I have been so busy as of lately, ill pm you my address if you still wanna send it so we can get on HTC about fixing
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Thanks for the PM. I understand. I am actually just disappointed in HTC for making devs jump through so many hurdles to get anything done on this device, and further frustrate them by not releasing source. The only reason why their sales are suffering is because they don't listen.
I have been reading up on the problem and looking through the forums to see what other devices used to fix this problem. And with Samsung it was simply restocking with odin or using heimdal tool.
I will definitely be sending it because I love its camera to bits. It really takes good photos. Once my friend put his OneX up against my MT4GS and it ended up taking better close ups than the OneX because it seemed to have a better auto focus.
I will be saving up for the first note to replace my G2(which has seen better days) if I manage to get this fixed.
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I'd say the Photon would be the qwerty to beat, but our camera sorta owns most, if not all, mobile devices right now.
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I'd say the Photon would be the qwerty to beat, but our camera sorta owns most, if not all, mobile devices right now.
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Unlocked bootloader +1
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This device is pretty epic. I can live with a 5mpx camera no problem. It's a really nice looking device. I've grown tired with Sense, and HTC in general. BUT Walmart is now selling the TMO version on GSII. It's off contract, and only 300 bucks. That's a deal.
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Hmmm... Seems like the specs are conflicting still. Check this out: http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SGH-T699DABTMB-specs It clearly shows the MSM8260A as the processor type which is a S4. Confirm that here: http://www.qualcomm.com/chipsets/snapdragon However, David (tmonews editor) is still claiming that both his press releases (tmobile and samsung) show the device having the S3. Someone screwed up big time lol! I feel that only a S4 makes sense at time but I guess its still a mystery?!
I am very interested in this new keyboard Galaxy, hopefully an GalaxySIII variant with S4 or Tegra3 chipset.
two key reasons: the Doubleshot is a rare device and never sold outside USA, so here in the UK I'm living on luck in terms of support of UK/European 3G operators.
secondly: five row keyboard.
also hoping for good performance without battery compromise. I am actively using my DShot for about three hours a day (starting about 7:30am over breakfast, on the bus into work and back, and a while in the evening before bed at 11:30pm) and the battery is usually exhausted!
If you're still using the stock battery that's at least part of the problem. If you were to get an Anker or Mugen battery and run a debloated version of the stock ROM so you could keep your original camera and it's functions you'd really see a difference. I sure did.
Having a 5 row qwerty again sure would be nice.
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imo, the only reason why the DS didn't do so well is because HTC didn't release an international version.
Well people would have complained about the keyboard, but eventually would have gotten used to it.
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I don't know if this is relevant here but here are the views of the G2 owners on the same
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1837559
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imo, the only reason why the DS didn't do so well is because HTC didn't release an international version.
Well people would have complained about the keyboard, but eventually would have gotten used to it.
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I don't know if this is relevant here but here are the views of the G2 owners on the same
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1837559
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Totally relevant! It's nice to see my old brothers in the G2 section lol! And I couldn't agree with ya more... this device would have been huge with the dual core processor qwerty and bad ass camera (that is STILL one the best around!)
It will be quite some time, before dev action pics up on that device (if ever). So jumping into that phone right now would be a bad idea, unless you want to dev.
It's been a little more than a year since the DS came out, and we now have many roms to choose from. So think of how long this will take
Does anyone know if the internals of this new phone are based on the internals of another Galaxy phone? That would make porting a lot easier and also speed up devving.
But by the looks of it, I am liking this phone design a lot. Has everything I need, including a trackpad. Now, as long as they keep the physical size down, I may consider getting one.
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It will be quite some time, before dev action pics up on that device (if ever). So jumping into that phone right now would be a bad idea, unless you want to dev.
It's been a little more than a year since the DS came out, and we now have many roms to choose from. So think of how long this will take
Does anyone know if the internals of this new phone are based on the internals of another Galaxy phone? That would make porting a lot easier and also speed up devving.
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The phone is not yet released so can't really say. But judging by the hardware specs. It looks like a SGS II.
Regarding development support... There's already SGS III which obviously is 1 fold greater than this device + relay 4g is also a tmobile exclusive. I don't see any samsung devs downgrading just to support this device(except maybe dedicated community devs like cyanogenmod etc.). For all I know the only persons which will be attracted on this device are keyboard enthusiasts like me. But I just got a mt4gs & relay 4g isn't that of a big difference with mt4gs anyways. So I'll pass on this phone for now. And if ever I decided to go samsung with qwerty I would rather choose samsung captivate glide instead. At least the specs are far more superior than relay 4g.
Tegra 2 = Cortex A9 Processor
Snapdragon S3 = Cortex A8 Processor
It's like a 1.5ghz celeron processor vs a 1ghz Pentium 4
And by the way Samsung captivate glide isn't even officially supported by cyanogenmod. So relay 4g being a much lower spec'd device do you think they'd get alot more support than captivate glide?
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4914&idPhone2=4071
See what I mean? Captivate glide is also getting official ICS upgrade anyways.
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Is sensation really good ? Does it have problems like g2x ? I have mytouch 4G now. Not sure to wait for Samsung Hercules or get HTC sensation ? What would you guys do ? Please share
Obviously asking this question in the Sensation forum is going to be biased toward the Sensation. I'd get the Sensation....but I'm not you and don't know your situation.
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Is sensation really good ? Does it have problems like g2x ? I have mytouch 4G now. Not sure to wait for Samsung Hercules or get HTC sensation ? What would you guys do ? Please share
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I have the G2x and the Sensation and while they both have tremendous potential they both have multiple issues. I would wait for Hercules as I am going to sell one of the two or both and purchase the Hercules.
buy or wait?
There will always be a newer/better phone that will be out within 3 days, 3 weeks, 3 months of buying your next phone. You have to ask yourself a different question, which phone will have the features I need and will really use? If you are simply holding out for the best phone right now you will be disappointed and frustrated and not fully happy with your next purchase. I love the Sensation. I waited for months to get it and I am happy with my purchase. I have always rooted my android phones to use unavailable features on stock phones like; the wifi tethering with my laptop and tab. This is already built in and available the moment you buy it. ATT and Sprint and Verizon charge for this feature. BOOOOO! Good for T-Mo while it lasts. The phone is responsive, comes loaded with useful apps and widgets, it's sexy and fun to play with I have Netflix working on it (so do many others, I did not invent the wheel), hbo-go, and other streaming apps that work great on the sensation. The camera is decent enough for me not to carry a dedicated camera for photos and videos. For me, I use multimedia daily, and this phone meets my needs. I was buying every new phone that came out and was never satisfied. The sensation is a good buy, the hercules will be out in the next 2-3 months and by then there will be another phone with even better specs that will leave you drooling. I am sure it will be a great phone too.
I was really excited about the announcement of the Hercules and besides the GPS problem, I loved my Vibrant(wife has it now). But IMO, as nice as Sammys designs are(I don't like the design of the Sensation) they make the bezel too big.
My sensation is just as big as my Vibrant even though it has a 4.3 inch screen. I've always hated the added real estate which is why I chose the Sensation over the gx2. If the infuse is any idication of how big the Hercs going to be, I might pass on it and see what comes out next year. Besides, I love the weight of my HTC. I hated how light my Vibrant was even though that thing was literally indestructable.
First off ask yourself the question cause only you can decide ,if you like bland vanilla and super amolded screens then go with Samsung, if you like widgets and eye candy then sensation is the one ....all phones with this much horsepower have issues and I mean all ,once bootloader is unlocked on sensation you'll have the speed to go with the looks ,and if you're not interested in flashing then you still got a great device , but like mentioned earlier after the Hercules there will be something better 3 months later ,it will never end
simply put:
4.3" qHD >>>> 4.5" WVGA
So far all of the information leaked about the Hercules shows that its not using the exynos soc. Just some food for though. The waiting game does suck though because something better will come out after the Hercules. That's just the way it is.
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So far all of the information leaked about the Hercules shows that its not using the exynos soc. Just some food for though. The waiting game does suck though because something better will come out after the Hercules. That's just the way it is.
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Yep, it's rumored to be using the APQ8060, which is the same as the MSM8260 without the integrated HSPA radio. This is probably because the Hercules will have 42 Mbps HSPA+ connectivity and it will need a separate radio for this and that the Exynos SoC is already in limited quantity (some SGS II variants will have the Tegra 2).
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4.3" qHD >>>> 4.5" WVGA
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Which I why I got the Sensation. Pixel density FTW.
Cannot wait for the HTC unlock. Need to cleanse bloatware.
I love the resolution on this phone. Can't go wrong with qHD, it makes the Sensation that much more beautiful.
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I won't go with a Samsung again after having the vibrant. Samsung is the slowest company to come out with updates.
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The killer feature on the Hercules is that 42mbps speed. The usb radios that are out are getting speeds that rival Verizon's LTE.
On the down side (for me) is that with a 4.5 inch screen and that Samsung bezel it is going to be a huge phone - nudging into small tablet territory. Battery life will also be tricky.
At the moment I'm not willing to trade a great svelte HTC design for a faster Sammy slab. But we'll see when it comes out.
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Given some of the deals we've seen for the Sensation... I'd definitely lean in that direction. 4.5" is pushing it for me, and the qHD is nicer than I originally thought it would be.
I hope there will be good support from the community with custom Roms.. How are the chances for that to happen?
The Sensation is like the Desire... huge Dev support
It is a great Phone and there will be as much People like in the Desire section ... so much support from the Dev´s
The Sensation is just great! I would never take a samsung instead of an HTC.... Sense is too great and the bigger Resolution is so nice! You feel it very much and movies are just wow on this phone! And the Sound! Great!
Just a Multimedia Talent..... I would not wait if i am able to use this phone! I will never miss something like this phone!
Just great! There are little mistakes but Touch Wiz ist just crap!
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The killer feature on the Hercules is that 42mbps speed.
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Although it will technically be capable of those speeds, I doubt it will come anywhere near those speeds. The sensation should be able to hit 11Mbs theoretically but the fastest i've had it download was 7.9Mbs. I'm sure the Hercules will be closer to 11Mbs speeds in real world.
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I won't go with a Samsung again after having the vibrant. Samsung is the slowest company to come out with updates.
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They just updated half their Android line up to 2.3.4 in the past two months. They've updated the SGS2 four times and a fifth update to 2.3.4 is due out by the end of the month. There's a difference between getting updates directly from Samsung and having to be dependent on your U.S. carrier to get them out. The global Sensation's are being updated now. Let's see how long it takes T-Mobile to push the U.S. update.
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Although it will technically be capable of those speeds, I doubt it will come anywhere near those speeds. The sensation should be able to hit 11Mbs theoretically but the fastest i've had it download was 7.9Mbs. I'm sure the Hercules will be closer to 11Mbs speeds in real world.
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It should get 20 mbps with ease if you're in an area that supports that connectivity. T-Mobile demonstrated those type of speeds using a data stick.
soon there will be a samsung amoled hd screen soon and thats my new phone.
HTC Sensation users, what will your next device be after Sensation?
For me it will probably be a Samsung phone possibly the Galaxy S3 or iPhone 5, unless HTC puts out a solid, well build and thought device with consistent quality materials across their devices.
I did realized that HTC Said that they'll cut down in the amount if phones they put out since they realized they were not focusing on one phone and therefore why so many flaws in their last models.
Example: two screen manufacturers.
What will be your next device?
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Definitely another HTC. Maybe the Ville.
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iPhone 5, because I've already owned Androids(the Sensation is my second one), Blackberries, and Windows Phone but I never owned an iPhone & I always want to try new phones after a period of time.
P.S. I love Android phones the most & this Sensation is the best one I ever used (besides the sucky battery life).
Depends on what HTC brings out, I dunno if the Ville will be enough to bring me over
Well since I am on t-mobile my choice is limited since they never have the best phones out.
I will probably get whatever htc <4.3 inch screen phone is out
Definitely getting the GS3...I hope its quad core
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I've just purchased a new Nokia lumia so ill see what its like when I get it.
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STRICTLY the Nexus device....
I honestly dont think I will ever buy a non vanilla Android device again. The "features" the carriers/manufactures load up ruin the experience and limit the people who care to develop for the device.
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STRICTLY the Nexus device....
I honestly dont think I will ever buy a non vanilla Android device again. The "features" the carriers/manufactures load up ruin the experience and limit the people who care to develop for the device.
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As much as I hate samSUCK I think I might have to agree. I really wish HTC made the Nexus devices...
My wish list:
- size of the Desire or something in between the Desire & Sensation.
- hard buttons like those of the Desire.
- quadcore
- powerful battery to last.
- beats tech or better of the Sensation XE
Thats it. Not much to ask from HTC huh?
Maybe the HTC Ville
as long as its dual core with 768mb of ram or more and a nice 5 inch screen ill buy it.
softkey only devices for me
quad core definitively
HTC first priority altho i want it to have AOSP & Sense Roms lol were having a really tuff time bringing AOSP ICS
if not ill go with the next nexus, 5MP camera stopped me from getting it really
This time, I'm going to for an Samsung device, none of those horrible dust issues, and I really want to own an phone with an AMOLED screen.
Quad core isn't needed. I think a strong dual core (think at least 1.5Ghz) with a >3000mAH battery and a screen between the sensation and note with proper resolution (~720).
Am I the only one who thinks the AMOLED screens are overrated? I personally love this sensation screen and think it rivals the iphone, but the AMOLED samsung screens just look like the have a blue/purple hue over them..
anyone else planning on holding on to their sensation for another year at least, probably 2? Im thinking once CM9 comes out the phone will rock. I am not dropping another 500$+ on a phone until something that is truly next gen comes out
Waiting for MWC.. I really hope they have something up their sleeve..
I really like HTC but they need to bring out something top notch.
2011 wasn't a good year for HTC and they know it. They need to get back on top with one badass machine.
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Quad core isn't needed. I think a strong dual core (think at least 1.5Ghz) with a >3000mAH battery and a screen between the sensation and note with proper resolution (~720).
Am I the only one who thinks the AMOLED screens are overrated? I personally love this sensation screen and think it rivals the iphone, but the AMOLED samsung screens just look like the have a blue/purple hue over them..
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You're not the only one. I think they do look stunning but the colours are too rich IMO. This is one reason why I chose the Sensation over the GS2.
On a related note, I think the Galaxy Nexus is quite overrated. Apart from having a 720p screen and being a Google Experience device (and therefore having ICS), there isn't that much else that's amazing about it. Still a great phone but not worth the price (ATM).
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anyone else planning on holding on to their sensation for another year at least, probably 2? Im thinking once CM9 comes out the phone will rock. I am not dropping another 500$+ on a phone until something that is truly next gen comes out
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Yeah I'll definitely hold on for another year at the very least seeing as I only got it a few weeks ago.
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As much as I hate samSUCK I think I might have to agree. I really wish HTC made the Nexus devices...
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Got Nexus (Prime) and have Sensation since day one. Honestly... I am not buying any other phone for next 2 years. When got the Sensation didn't see a big difference and should stick with XL... Anyhow, I don't think there could be added more "features" (unless you playing games).
As for the Nexus... Many people saying its crap, underpowered atc... IMO these people NEVER had Nexus except in their dreams. The Nexus performs superb.
So my answer is : no other phone for 2 years as my current phones are the very best...
Sony Xperia S looks pretty nice.
Which phone do you predict will have the most support?
I predict it will be the Galaxy S3, for the time being, Galaxy Nexus is the most supported phone from a development perspective.
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the HTC tegra 3 Device i suppose
From what I have experienced with my previous Tegra 2 phone is that NVidia are not open source which means they don't give out their source making it harder to develop.
Don't get me wrong though, Tegra is super powerful but developments wise, not so sure.
For these reasons I will say that Samsung might get more development support in 2012.
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With so many phone choices out there even the development community is fragmented these days.
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So you think a phone that is yet to be confirmed, yet to be released, and
specs unknown will be the next big phone in the development world? ok then
Galaxy nexus? Are you serious mate? Have you even looked in the HTC HD2 forums?
Its literally the most supported phone (and best phone) in the world.
I know because I had one And it broke
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Galaxy nexus? Are you serious mate? Have you even looked in the HTC HD2 forums?
Its literally the most supported phone (and best phone) in the world.
I know because I had one And it broke
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Absolutely right! HD2 is the most supported phone ever with 5 different platforms (windows mobile, windows phone, android, ubuntu and meego). So u say galaxy nexus? Are you crazy
I also had it and sold it to buy a sensation. It made me taste all these different os' with only one phone. Absolutely the best phone ever.. Thanks HTC and XDA
Excluding the HD2, I'd go for the GS3. The Galaxy Nexus will be well supported too.
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So you think a phone that is yet to be confirmed, yet to be released, and
specs unknown will be the next big phone in the development world? ok then
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Yeap, assuming that Samsung keeps innovating and assuming that they use their own processor and keep releasing their code source which btw, it is most likely a yes to all of the above , I think it will be the next big phone for development and consumers.
Samsung reputation in the mobile world went really high in 2011 and for what I have seen HTC and other companies could see themselves losing a lot of loyal customer if they don't step up their game.
Anyway, I don't deny the fact that the HD2 had been and still is one of the most supported devices but I am also stating that the Galaxy Nexus has the most active development going on at the moment.
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Samsung Galaxy Note
For the following reasons:
Decent spec.
screen real-estate.
it's Samsung.
the kind of person who is going to buy that kind of hardware is likely to be passionate about it and probably going to want to make the best out of it (e.g.: Devs)
just my 0.02$.
I was not aware the HD2 had so much support, but it's pretty much guaranteed that the Galaxy Nexus is and will be a safe bet. That said, I had the GN 16Gb, and I was not impressed with the hardware, at least from a cost standpoint. I switched back to the Sensation, half the price for very similar specs.
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Galaxy nexus? Are you serious mate? Have you even looked in the HTC HD2 forums?
Its literally the most supported phone (and best phone) in the world.
I know because I had one And it broke
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I have two! (well, my daughters have one each now). If you actually had to use one again you'd be disappointed at how slow it is compared to the sensation, although I prefer the HD2 screen size.
over heard of the htc one series, if i would het my contact soon i would choose one of thoose but before getting them i have a nice htc sensation
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I have two! (well, my daughters have one each now). If you actually had to use one again you'd be disappointed at how slow it is compared to the sensation, although I prefer the HD2 screen size.
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compared and screensize is the same... eventhick just other curves and specs
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over heard of the htc one series, if i would het my contact soon i would choose one of thoose but before getting them i have a nice htc sensation
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compared and screensize is the same... eventhick just other curves and specs
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The screen of the Sensation seems a tad 'taller' whereas the HD2's (or the Desire HD for that matter) is more wide after handling my friends.
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The screen of the Sensation seems a tad 'taller' whereas the HD2's (or the Desire HD for that matter) is more wide after handling my friends.
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well we are talking about 1 mm(metric system) woch is just so small compared to 1 inch
Wow! I'm impressed with the support for the HD2!
I got seriously lucky by getting a Sensation, I just blindly jumped into it, and the development community for it is just mindboggling.
The Galaxy Nexus does seem like a safe bet though, what with the whole flagship status and all.
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I was not aware the HD2 had so much support, but it's pretty much guaranteed that the Galaxy Nexus is and will be a safe bet. That said, I had the GN 16Gb, and I was not impressed with the hardware, at least from a cost standpoint. I switched back to the Sensation, half the price for very similar specs.
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LOL I retired my HD2 a loooooooooong time ago... that phone was always overrated to me even with android on it. I also jumped ship and bought a GSM Galaxy Nexus off of eBay and I still find myself using my Sensation more than the GN...if we could get a STABLE version of ICS AOSP on the Sensation I'd probably sell my GN
HTC Zeta Quad-Core !!
Sony Xperia S because nor HTC nor Samsung will release something interesting before summer
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Sony Xperia S because nor HTC nor Samsung will release something interesting before summer
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The Htc One X will be released before summer. It should be getting announced / unveiled in a few days
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So I'm done with the sensation, all the "remove all sense, add fast in topic title" devs (no offence, but I personally think there's too many of this already).
I'm now thinking of getting a Gal Nex, only because of the AOSP development over there. but I am a little worried it might be slower than my sensation (1.5ghz vs 1.2, anyone? and the gpu?)
So in your honest opinion, do you think an upgrade to the gal nex is okay?
(btw, please don't go "if you didn't like sense and want aosp why did you buy the sensation. I got this because of the hardware, not some crappy sluggish UI HTC made.)
I just got done saying thia in ankther thread. Just wait lkke more months when new lhones with way better technology
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I just got done saying thia in ankther thread. Just wait lkke more months when new lhones with way better technology
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If you have this opinion, you'll never have a new phone. A "better" phone is ALWAYS around the corner. I'm alright with specs like the gal nex or the sensation because I don't game .
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If you have this opinion, you'll never have a new phone. A "better" phone is ALWAYS around the corner. I'm alright with specs like the gal nex or the sensation because I don't game .
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ive been through many phones already. i came back to the sensation because the specs of the current phones are all the same in some way. i chose sensation for build quality, looks, and camera. and especially with the One series coming out, wait for it.
Galaxy nexus is not an upgrade from sensation, it is a side grade. It's better in some ways but worse in others.
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So I'm done with the sensation, all the "remove all sense, add fast in topic title" devs (no offence, but I personally think there's too many of this already).
I'm now thinking of getting a Gal Nex, only because of the AOSP development over there. but I am a little worried it might be slower than my sensation (1.5ghz vs 1.2, anyone? and the gpu?)
So in your honest opinion, do you think an upgrade to the gal nex is okay?
(btw, please don't go "if you didn't like sense and want aosp why did you buy the sensation. I got this because of the hardware, not some crappy sluggish UI HTC made.)
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As above poster said, it's a "side-grade" rather than an upgrade. It's most likely that cpu doesn't make that much noticable difference: 1.2 should be enough to run contemporary apps (they're usually designed to be compatible with slower phones, hence why iPhone can get away with underclocking for instance), especially since you don't game. Ditto for the GPU. This should also lead to better battery life - along with having a more powerful battery, of course.
That said, there are a lot of quirks with the Nexus itself (and, to some extent, Samsung's handling of it). Camera, MTP USB protocol only, nonremovable SD card, question of whether car dock will ever be made. Make sure you research and are happy with all of them before buying.
It's been a few months, so the Nexus should be getting pretty cheap. I would get it for at most $600 U.S. Price promotions often come out here, though I'm not sure about in your geographical location.
I assume you know about the alternatives showcased in MWC that are coming out in a few months. Huawei Ascend D (the "fastest phone") is rumored to come with stock ICS for example. Galaxy Nexus is still probably the best bet right now for longer term dev support, however.
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As above poster said, it's a "side-grade" rather than an upgrade. It's most likely that cpu doesn't make that much noticable difference: 1.2 should be enough to run contemporary apps (they're usually designed to be compatible with slower phones, hence why iPhone can get away with underclocking for instance), especially since you don't game. Ditto for the GPU. This should also lead to better battery life - along with having a more powerful battery, of course.
That said, there are a lot of quirks with the Nexus itself (and, to some extent, Samsung's handling of it). Camera, MTP USB protocol only, nonremovable SD card, question of whether car dock will ever be made. Make sure you research and are happy with all of them before buying.
It's been a few months, so the Nexus should be getting pretty cheap. I would get it for at most $600 U.S. Price promotions often come out here, though I'm not sure about in your geographical location.
I assume you know about the alternatives showcased in MWC that are coming out in a few months. Huawei Ascend D (the "fastest phone") is rumored to come with stock ICS for example. Galaxy Nexus is still probably the best bet right now for longer term dev support, however.
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Hmm, thanks for the reply . I've already made a deal with the seller and we're meeting up tomorrow. Will probably make a comparison. But just out of curiosity, which gpu performs better?and I mean real life performance. Eg our gpu is supposedly better that the gs2's but in real life gs2 is much better.
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But just out of curiosity, which gpu performs better?and I mean real life performance. Eg our gpu is supposedly better that the gs2's but in real life gs2 is much better.
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I have no idea
Edit: But, I wouldn't count on the Nexus' GPU being better.
Double Edit: Stop being a serial thanker lol.
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I have no idea
Edit: But, I wouldn't count on the Nexus' GPU being better.
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Aaawww dem. Guess I'll find out tomorrow! Thanks anyways
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There are some amaizing development on diffrent kernels on the GN. So with a costum kernel you will brobably not feel like it´s going slower atleast...
Well, the Galaxy Nexus is a great phone, so is all of the Galaxy lines and it's variants.
But it is rumored that the S3 will come out within 6 months. If you have patience wait for that
If not go with the Galaxy Nexus, or Galaxy S2.
Personally an Infuse 4g User (Variant of the S2).
I really wouldnt get the Nexus and go for the S2 or wait a month or two for the Htc one X and im sure there will be AOSP roms for it soon
The one X looks like a beast even with the htc sense on it
The Galaxy Nexus is an awesome buy, the trouble with always waiting is that you end up buying nothing
As said its a side grade, but you get the benefit of quick novelty updates. Personally I would wait for A15 cored phones instead.
$1 gets you a reply
And this is why I bought my Nexus before MWC ...
Nexus 2
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Haha, I got my nexus. Its an upgrade from the sensation. Even though specs isn't as nice on paper, it feels faster. I don't regret getting it.
As for the one x will get aosp in a few months, I wouldn't count on it. People have been saying that for the sensation ever since the day we got s-off. But look at it now. Lol.
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Well, the Galaxy Nexus is a great phone, so is all of the Galaxy lines and it's variants.
But it is rumored that the S3 will come out within 6 months. If you have patience wait for that
If not go with the Galaxy Nexus, or Galaxy S2.
Personally an Infuse 4g User (Variant of the S2).
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Infuse is not a variant of the S2. It's closer to the S1 than S2
YES YES YES, nexus ALWAYS gets support from google no matter what, for about 2 years. The one thing I have witnessed with android is horrible support and update timelines for every phone other than the nexus line. Plus if you're not happy, the nexus always has a rather big dev community
there are some really good changes in the new one so I think its better to go for a new one if you really like
If you had an upgrade what would you choose.........
My choice would be the one. I like the LCD screen found on the DNA. I have alot of faith in the 4 Ultra pixel camera. I want a phone that doesn't feel like a child's toy. The quadrant scores on the One were amazing, although I'm sure the S4 will come close. What would you choose?
FYI: all phones have ultra pixels, however there 1.1. The ones found on the One are 2.0. Just saying
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After samsungs sharade unpacked event of the galaxy s4/s3 pebble 2 with shiney stuff around the edge ..
My kids inheratance would be heading towards htc
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HTC uses perfect materials, it feels great when you hold it in your hand
Currently on an htc phone and with HTCs inability to update software in a timely fashion that makes me question them all together.
I have a samsung tablet but I am leaning towards the S4 due to samsung overall being the better product and updating things in a timely manner.
It took htc nearly a year to get ics on this and it's horrible for everything.
Go with Samsung. Overall it's just better supported and more highly recognized
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HTC uses perfect materials, it feels great when you hold it in your hand
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Did you just say perfect materials? If by plastic you mean perfect your on the wrong track by far
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Currently on an htc phone and with HTCs inability to update software in a timely fashion that makes me question them all together.
I have a samsung tablet but I am leaning towards the S4 due to samsung overall being the better product and updating things in a timely manner.
It took htc nearly a year to get ics on this and it's horrible for everything.
Go with Samsung. Overall it's just better supported and more highly recognized
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Did you just say perfect materials? If by plastic you mean perfect your on the wrong track by far
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Wait, so we should get a device based on what is more recognized? That's an awesome view you have there, lol!
Wondering what was so bad with ICS? I have an Amaze the wife uses and runs fine, funny she has actually had 3 OTA updates compared to my two on my s3.
I can't wait till the One drops! Definitely my next phone for sure.
Oh and you think HTC uses plastic now? The One is all aluminum....wow, so misinformed....
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Wait, so we should get a device based on what is more recognized? That's an awesome view you have there, lol!
Wondering what was so bad with ICS? I have an Amaze the wife uses and runs fine, funny she has actually had 3 OTA updates compared to my two on my s3.
I can't wait till the One drops! Definitely my next phone for sure.
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Well currently the htc one isn't available on my carrier. So the best phone available is the S3 and soon to be S4. I don't hate htc I just could care less to stick with them
And it's called my opinion for a reason. If you don't like it then that's your opinion
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Support support support.
Samsungs got the best devs !
If you like to customize your phone. Go with sammy.
Also I just wsnna say HTC designs have always been nice. They have lackluster batteries though.
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Support support support.
Samsungs got the best devs !
If you like to customize your phone. Go with sammy.
Also I just wsnna say HTC designs have always been nice. They have lackluster batteries though.
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Dude that's the truth with the batteries for sure
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The event for the unpacking of the GS4 was ridiculous! Seriously I watched the hole "show" and I was awaiting for the new killer feature that would erase the concurrents.
First of all, the design. Some of you may say "don't change the lineup of a working team" but personally I'm tired of the same designs with Samsung devices lately. It's the same on the GS3, on the note 2 and now on the GS4 ? Show some innovation Samsung!
I love Android, I never had an iPhone and never wanted one, but from the design, iPhone 5 is way better built.
HTC really got that and the amazing device that is the ONE is the proof.
You can't say "yeah I choose my device because it'll have more updates!". Wrong!
Every high marketed device comes with killer features ! 2gb of RAM? That's normal now. 32 or 64 gb of storage / 5 inch screen? Normal too...
The thing is they all look alike in a hardware point of view, that's why nowadays the design is very important.
A good design means a device built with beautiful and premium materials and that the device's design changes from the device that came out before.
Samsung didn't get that. Although the S series of Samsung is gonna sell at uncomputable numbers every one knows that, I don't think it's a major need to upgrade from the s3 to S4 because I just don't see the point except waisting money.
I think it may attract some of those who will walk in a store and see the device (thanks to the amazing job of marketing that Samsung always does) but for those who were waiting it to be a great and revolutionary device, the disappointment is the real feeling.
HTC ONE is the killer smartphone of 2013's beginning, sorry Samsung you'll do better next time. Or not ^^
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The event for the unpacking of the GS4 was ridiculous! Seriously I watched the hole "show" and I was awaiting for the new killer feature that would erase the concurrents.
First of all, the design. Some of you may say "don't change the lineup of a working team" but personally I'm tired of the same designs with Samsung devices lately. It's the same on the GS3, on the note 2 and now on the GS4 ? Show some innovation Samsung!
I love Android, I never had an iPhone and never wanted one, but from the design, iPhone 5 is way better built.
HTC really got that and the amazing device that is the ONE is the proof.
You can't say "yeah I choose my device because it'll have more updates!". Wrong!
Every high marketed device comes with killer features ! 2gb of RAM? That's normal now. 32 or 64 gb of storage / 5 inch screen? Normal too...
The thing is they all look alike in a hardware point of view, that's why nowadays the design is very important.
A good design means a device built with beautiful and premium materials and that the device's design changes from the device that came out before.
Samsung didn't get that. Although the S series of Samsung is gonna sell at uncomputable numbers every one knows that, I don't think it's a major need to upgrade from the s3 to S4 because I just don't see the point except waisting money.
I think it may attract some of those who will walk in a store and see the device (thanks to the amazing job of marketing that Samsung always does) but for those who were waiting it to be a great and revolutionary device, the disappointment is the real feeling.
HTC ONE is the killer smartphone of 2013's beginning, sorry Samsung you'll do better next time. Or not ^^
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Really the iPhone is a better built phone? It's built in the same foreign countries with the same parts except for the processor. IPhones are boring useless pieces of crap
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Me getting S4. Although HTC One has better build quality but for everything else, HTC is not the company I would bet on. It will probably never get updates after one or two.
On the other side Samsung is adding more and more features in each update and from last year when I purchased S3, I already got 3-4 updates. Plus they already working on another one with all these latest features.
On hardware side, I think S4 has upper hand on HTC One. Battery is larger, processor is faster, S4 Screen is bigger but phone is little smaller. S4 Screen is better. Not to mention expendable microSD slot and replaceable battery.
So I would not want a phone with better built quality but strong specs and better features.
I think that's the main reason why I switched from iPhone to S3 in the first place. I know a lots of people might hate me for saying this but iPhone has best build quality among all phones out there.
So definitely Galaxy S4.
I said " I love Android, I never had an iPhone and never wanted one, but from the design, iPhone 5 is way better built."
So please understand my sentence as it sound ^^
I'll say again maybe in other words this time, when you grab an iPhone 5 and when you grab a S3, don't tell me that the S3 has a more premium look and feel... And that's not a question of opinion, that's a fact.
I never mentioned the prices of the devices but if you want to, we'll see the price of the S4, when they'll show it at 699$ then you'll tell me the difference with the iPhone. The only device that is worth talking on a price basis is the Nexus 4. The rest of'em are just a scam
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I said " I love Android, I never had an iPhone and never wanted one, but from the design, iPhone 5 is way better built."
So please understand my sentence as it sound ^^
I'll say again maybe in other words this time, when you grab an iPhone 5 and when you grab a S3, don't tell me that the S3 has a more premium look and feel... And that's not a question of opinion, that's a fact.
I never mentioned the prices of the devices but if you want to, we'll see the price of the S4, when they'll show it at 699$ then you'll tell me the difference with the iPhone. The only device that is worth talking on a price basis is the Nexus 4. The rest of'em are just a scam
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iPhones honestly aren't worth the price no matter how discounted they are.
While they may be built better your comparing apples to oranges. No pun intended on the apple thing.
But really I think we can all mostly agree here that android overall is better.
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Well it's probably true for new buyers. But for a experienced users, it matters.
When I switched S3 from iPhone, I didn't actually know about all this. I had option to choose S3 or HTC One X and I went with S3 because it's more popular and had better support.
From what I learn in last year, I could never buy HTC or Motorola phones.
These companies never support their devices. They even lock bootloaders so we cannot update our devices ourself or install updated custom roms.
I am also a little disappointed with S4 release but I would pick S4 over HTC one any day.
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Me getting S4. Although HTC One has better build quality but for everything else, HTC is not the company I would bet on. It will probably never get updates after one or two.
On the other side Samsung is adding more and more features in each update and from last year when I purchased S3, I already got 3-4 updates. Plus they already working on another one with all these latest features.
On hardware side, I think S4 has upper hand on HTC One. Battery is larger, processor is faster, S4 Screen is bigger but phone is little smaller. S4 Screen is better. Not to mention expendable microSD slot and replaceable battery.
So I would not want a phone with better built quality but strong specs and better features.
I think that's the main reason why I switched from iPhone to S3 in the first place. I know a lots of people might hate me for saying this but iPhone has best build quality among all phones out there.
So definitely Galaxy S4.
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I have to agree with everything you just said. Even the iPhone built quality part. But really, if I were you, I wouldn't waist money upgrading from S3 to S4...
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Samsung really pulled an Apple with this Galaxy S3s. But HTC is not to be trusted
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Well it's probably true for new buyers. But for a experienced users, it matters.
When I switched S3 from iPhone, I didn't actually know about all this. I had option to choose S3 or HTC One X and I went with S3 because it's more popular and had better support.
From what I learn in last year, I could never buy HTC or Motorola phones.
These companies never support their devices. They even lock bootloaders so we cannot update our devices ourself or install updated custom roms.
I am also a little disappointed with S4 release but I would pick S4 over HTC one any day.
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Yea I've completely gone away from Motorola all together myself and that's a selling point for me being able to root my phone and changing it around nearly completely
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This was exactly like last year for me.
I wanted a phone with huge storage capacity/microSD capacity and long battery life/removable battery with decent specs. And QWERTY but I have given up on the last thing.
The HTC One X was released and as pretty as the White one was, it definitely was not a purchase I was willing to make and I waited for the Samsung Galaxy S3 announcement. The announcement came and Samsung gave me what I wanted. I bought the S3.
Fast forward this year. HTC One announced. Still no microSD slot but looks like decent battery life. Looks very pretty too (I still think the white One X is the best looking HTC phone though). Not bad this time around HTC but let's wait to hear from Samsung. S4 gets announced and again, they have what I want from last year.
If I was choosing again between HTC or Samsung this year: Samsung Galaxy S4 because it has what I want from last year.
Luckily I want more stuff this year which is why I'm not going to buy a S4. My S3 is lovely and I don't need to buy an S4. However, I now really want a bigger screen. This year, I'll be looking to buy a Note 3 or competitor version as long as it has a huge screen, huge capacity/microSD, huge battery.
Honestly, I don't care what company you are or even what your phone looks like (I bought the S3 for god sakes). Just give me what I want and I'd buy it. I'm also eyeing the Blackberry Q10 simply because of the QWERTY but I think my lust for a bigger screen will win out. Plus the stylus is alright...right?
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I have to agree with everything you just said. Even the iPhone built quality part. But really, if I were you, I wouldn't waist money upgrading from S3 to S4...
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No, I am not saying, I am upgrading S4 from S3. But I would pick S4 over HTC One.
I will probably get Note 3. I also do not rule out possibility to get S4, if I get some cool discount.