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Whats the new OTA about?
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there was an ota today?

xmc wildchild22 said:
there was an ota today?
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Yeah it showed up.. about 5 or 6 mbs. Optimization update is what it said. But i am S-OFF and rooted so i defered it... Until i find out what it is... Its an HTC OTA.
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HTC/T-Mobile needs to stop releasing patches and give us a full ROM.
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I haven't seen an ota... Weird
rooted 1.55.531.3 with clockwork recovery and SU

The DS is the red headed step child of htc. I doubt we will get any full roms any time soon. We are stuck with 2.3.4 plus patches until........forever. Lol. We might see 2.3.5 but that is even a long shot.

AndroidBotx said:
The DS is the red headed step child of htc. I doubt we will get any full roms any time soon. We are stuck with 2.3.4 plus patches until........forever. Lol. We might see 2.3.5 but that is even a long shot.
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I am down for a full functioning 4.0+ ROM for the DS.
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As for the OTA, what is your software version? There was a small OTA that came out around 5-6 months ago; it was 5.44 MB I believe, and it brought the ROM up from 1.28.531.9 to 1.28.531.10.

yogi2010 said:
As for the OTA, what is your software version? There was a small OTA that came out around 5-6 months ago; it was 5.44 MB I believe, and it brought the ROM up from 1.28.531.9 to 1.28.531.10.
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That's what it is. I am on .9 and its moving me up. Idk I just got the phone like 3 days ago. That being said... Where are all the damn good ROMs?
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mckeeverisdman said:
That's what it is. I am on .9 and its moving me up. Idk I just got the phone like 3 days ago. That being said... Where are all the damn good ROMs?
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Just have to look PyroICE Roms are nice ICS Roms, with everything working (But the 4.0 Port). I guess most people want ICS these days. There's a CM9 port, no MMS or video camera on that one. Wifi is kinda weird, but hey! Its AOSP/CM9 with a working camera.
::HTC Doubleshot:: CM9 Port

mckeeverisdman said:
That's what it is. I am on .9 and its moving me up. Idk I just got the phone like 3 days ago. That being said... Where are all the damn good ROMs?
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Well, if you are on x.xx.xxx.9 software version, then the first update notification you get is the small OTA referenced above.
Then you can do the current (paused) OTA manually because we have it sourced here, which will fail miserably in trying to give you what you need to unlock the bootloader.
If you want to move up to either the buggy or working versions of 1.55.531.3 software, make sure to S-OFF it first so you don't get stuck. S-OFF prior to applying the OTA is persistant.
As to the ROMs...if you don't see something you like, just make or ( more likely ) learn how to make your own. Anything reasonable is possible, just takes someone to sit down and invest the time in actually doing it before it's available.
That is why we are here, after all, to learn how to do it our way, whatever that is - so the more we all learn and share helps us all.
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Blue6IX said:
Well, if you are on x.xx.xxx.9 software version, then the first update notification you get is the small OTA referenced above.
Then you can do the current (paused) OTA manually because we have it sourced here, which will fail miserably in trying to give you what you need to unlock the bootloader.
If you want to move up to either the buggy or working versions of 1.55.531.3 software, make sure to S-OFF it first so you don't get stuck. S-OFF prior to applying the OTA is persistant.
As to the ROMs...if you don't see something you like, just make or ( more likely ) learn how to make your own. Anything reasonable is possible, just takes someone to sit down and invest the time in actually doing it before it's available.
That is why we are here, after all, to learn how to do it our way, whatever that is - so the more we all learn and share helps us all.
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Wise points kind sir... I may start. I have been wanting to dev for a while but havent had time to sit down with a rom and tear it to pieces.
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[INFO] Why we don't have ICS yet + more info about it

Hi, I have noticed a ton of people curious about why AT&T people do not have ICS yet, so I thought I would answer that once and for all. I admit that I and others have gotten a little mad whenever people ask about this, but it seems they are not able to really find a clear answer, so here it is.
If you feel like this is well done, please sticky it at least until we get it all figured out.
I figure this would be best said i a Q and A type form.
Q: What is ICS, and why does everyone want it so bad?
ICS or "Ice Cream Sandwich" is android version 4.0.x. the next version, 4.1 Jellybean was just released as a slightly less important update, but ICS brought huge changes from Ginger Bread (2.3.x) the previous phone version (3.x HoneyComb was tablet only). ICS brings a slicker, darker, and better looking user interface, as well as many performance enhancements. Most of us want it more because it seems like we should than because it is actually that much better. That said it is still a great update, and most people will be happy to see it.
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Q: Why is it so hard to get ICS for our phone, while others have it even though it is not officially out?
The main reason is our locked bootloader. That means it is not possible to flash or boot a custom kernel unless it is signed with Motorola's key. That is obviously impossible.
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Q: What is a kernel?
the kernel is a major part of any operating system. you can think of it as a sort of layer between hardware and software. It is the part of an OS that communicates directly with a device's hardware. Android is based off the open source Linux kernel, meaning it is free for anybody to build and modify. However, Motorola has only released the source for the ME865, and partially for the MB865, meaning we can't really build a kernel anyways. Then of course, even if we could build one, we wouldn't be able to boot it with our locked bootloader.
ICS is not really complete without the newer kernel that goes with it
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What is Kexec, and is there any way to unlock the bootloader
The fact that I grouped these together would probably lead you to correctly believe they are related. Lets start with the second half. Simply put, NO. I hate to say it, but there is very little hope of EVER unlocking our bootloader, unless Motorola decides to do something like HTC did and allow unlocking.
Kexec is a method of hot switching kernels while still booted. It is actually just a linux tool that you can use on a computer, but it has been built for android essentially allowing you to bypass the bootloader. Theoretically it would be an easy way to run custom kernels. Then why don't we? Well a few reasons. One, we can't really get one built to begin with, especially because, at least to my knowledge, jimbridgman is the only one who actually knows what he is doing with kernel building, and he is only half here now that he got his fany new SGS3. Two, it does not work great. I am not sure the latest version is working at all on our phone, and even if it did, only one processor comes up, meaning it is really slow.
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Q: What's the deal with these Droid 3 builds that supposedly boot?
Some people managed to build ICS for the droid 3 based of a 2.3.6 kernel. that means you can boot it on a stock GB kernel, and therefore you do not need to unlock the bootloader. Unfortunately that means it is not totally ICS, but it is still pretty good. Of course they are for a cdma phone, so that means no data, no calls, and no gps, making it kind of useless.
I am not going to give a link to them, but if you are really interested go search around. any of the Droid 3 AOKP and CM9 builds will boot just fine. Find more info in the dev section, but please don't start a thread asking about it.
We have been trying to port these to work for us, but that is proving more difficult than expected, and with ICS just around the corner, I don't want to put time into it. I do think it is possible, and if you are a dev looking to give it a shot, PM me and I will tell you all I know, and try to help out as much as I can.
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Great thread!
Thanks for putting this together!
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jimbridgman said:
Great thread!
Thanks for putting this together!
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thanks. I felt it was needed. let me know if I forgot to say something important.
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Perhaps this will hopefully curb some of the incessant "where's my ice cream sandwich" or "make me a rom based on ICS" threads here. Nice job, and as always, your work here is both highly appreciated and revered.
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Nice work kras, as always.
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Hell i thought this thread was going to give me info on why att hadn't released ics for us yet. Just kidding, good job. If this thread falls down the list ill bump it so maybe it will help some of the new people and we won't get any more new threads about ics.
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Apex_Strider said:
Perhaps this will hopefully curb some of the incessant "where's my ice cream sandwich" or "make me a rom based on ICS" threads here. Nice job, and as always, your work here is both highly appreciated and revered.
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No,Most likely once posts stop on this thread and it makes it to the second page we will see more questions im sure lol
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rdavisct said:
No,Most likely once posts stop on this thread and it makes it to the second page we will see more questions im sure lol
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that's why I asked for sticky
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The good news is that the "3rd quarter" is tomorrow! Which knowing motorola and AT&T, could mean whatever.
Take that with a grain of salt. Lol.
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Fall of Enosis said:
The good news is that the "3rd quarter" is tomorrow! Which knowing motorola and AT&T, could mean whatever.
Take that with a grain of salt. Lol.
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so is September
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Why don't we have a vanilla rom? Is it due again to the locked bootloader?
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gvsukids said:
Why don't we have a vanilla rom? Is it due again to the locked bootloader?
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yep. same thing. we have a hard time compiling any also source as you need a custom kernel
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Nice post..
Just one thing to inform about your last question's ans.. DROID 3'S ROMS DONT WORK ON OUR PHONE. IT WILL BOOTLOOP. SO DO NOT TRY FLASHING THEIR AOKP OR CM.. without backups and sufficient knowledge and experience atleast.. some changes have to be made in the rom before flashing.. i am trying to find all the files we must replace to get them working on our phone.. and just a FYI for those of you that wanna try.. other than droid 3, bionic is our nearest relative.. so u can edit and try their roms as well.. i did kinda get cm9 of bionic after replacing some required files.. but it bootlooped.. and of course bionic is cdma.. so.. good luck..
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Ravikirancg said:
Nice post..
Just one thing to inform about your last question's ans.. DROID 3'S ROMS DONT WORK ON OUR PHONE. IT WILL BOOTLOOP. SO DO NOT TRY FLASHING THEIR AOKP OR CM.. without backups and sufficient knowledge and experience atleast.. some changes have to be made in the rom before flashing.. i am trying to find all the files we must replace to get them working on our phone.. and just a FYI for those of you that wanna try.. other than droid 3, bionic is our nearest relative.. so u can edit and try their roms as well.. i did kinda get cm9 of bionic after replacing some required files.. but it bootlooped.. and of course bionic is cdma.. so.. good luck..
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You are not right. I can prove it. The latest droid 3 AOKP and Cm9 builds will boot just fine, with no radio

You should also add Why any other leak releases of atrix 2 ICS will not work on att atrix 2..... Sick of will this work on my att..... About to be like yea we all use it lol JK.....

Ravikirancg said:
DROID 3'S ROMS DONT WORK ON OUR PHONE. IT WILL BOOTLOOP. SO DO NOT TRY FLASHING THEIR AOKP OR CM9
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Couldn't be more wrong....they both boot just fine and are pretty functional, the problem lies in getting the radio to work.

Ravikirancg said:
Nice post..
Just one thing to inform about your last question's ans.. DROID 3'S ROMS DONT WORK ON OUR PHONE. IT WILL BOOTLOOP. SO DO NOT TRY FLASHING THEIR AOKP OR CM.. without backups and sufficient knowledge and experience atleast.. some changes have to be made in the rom before flashing.. i am trying to find all the files we must replace to get them working on our phone.. and just a FYI for those of you that wanna try.. other than droid 3, bionic is our nearest relative.. so u can edit and try their roms as well.. i did kinda get cm9 of bionic after replacing some required files.. but it bootlooped.. and of course bionic is cdma.. so.. good luck..
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Please I emplore you to do your proper research before making incorrect posts like this. I constantly see posts from those who think they know it all, and post idiotic things like this. Nothing makes me madder than someone who does not know how to use google and the search function.
It takes less than 2 min. to make sure you CYA before posting bad information.
Both CM9 and AOKP boot, but with no radio, as has already been said in several posts now. I have tested both.
P.S. most of us devs in here have been working on this very thing for sometime now, and I have not seen you jump in on any of threads discussing the files or how to port or anything.
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jimbridgman said:
Please I emplore you to do your proper research before making incorrect posts like this. I constantly see posts from those who think they know it all, and post idiotic things like this. Nothing makes me madder than someone who does not know how to use google and the search function.
It takes less than 2 min. to make sure you CYA before posting bad information.
Both CM9 and AOKP boot, but with no radio, as has already been said in several posts now. I have tested both.
P.S. most of us devs in here have been working on this very thing for sometime now, and I have not seen you jump in on any of threads discussing the files or how to port or anything.
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Agreed, They actually run extremely well, but obviously I can't stick with them with no radio.
P.S. this is my new best thought for porting, might take some extra build.prop work too. It did not boot for me, but I think we should be able to get it to. Then it is just a question of whether or not the radio will work. there is way more in build.prop on that than I would think.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1598713
I think it may work because it really adds the cm9 stuff to our own files rather than add our files to it. maybe not the cleanest way, but it might just work.

hankbizzo5 said:
You should also add Why any other leak releases of atrix 2 ICS will not work on att atrix 2..... Sick of will this work on my att..... About to be like yea we all use it lol JK.....
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WOW, did I really forget to add that? that was kind of one of the main points of this post I'll fix it tomorrow (actually today, I guess it is after midnight), but I need some sleep.

lkrasner said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1598713
I think it may work because it really adds the cm9 stuff to our own files rather than add our files to it. maybe not the cleanest way, but it might just work.
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I have tried this method along with every idea that popped in my head of things to alter after following this guide. I have a highly modified build prop that AOKP boots with that I replaced with a lot of our build prop but there are still some things missing as no luck yet

[Q] What ROM do you guys have?

Since there are 4 or 5 ROM's for our phones... what ROM are you guys running? Stock? Curious

There are that many? Lol I am on a rooted stock, but play with Erik's customized ROM.
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There are only two that actually run from what I understand. I am currently running erikmm's rom and it runs well so far.
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Im on Stock too. :silly:

Running stock and unrooted until T-mo/Samsung release ICS for this phone.
I rooted my previous phone (Exhibit 4G) and got rid of the T-mo bloat, can't wait to do the same for this phone. Only reason I haven't rooted is I worry something may interfere with the OTA update whenever it's released.

spartanerik said:
Running stock and unrooted until T-mo/Samsung release ICS for this phone.
I rooted my previous phone (Exhibit 4G) and got rid of the T-mo bloat, can't wait to do the same for this phone. Only reason I haven't rooted is I worry something may interfere with the OTA update whenever it's released.
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HA! Me too! On both counts! Got rid of the exhibit and got the blaze instead. Never got voicemails on that undeveloped thing. It's too bad as besides the voicemail issue I had it was a solid phone.
You should be able to get an OTA update even rooted with CWM (it is still the stock rom after all) - but you may end up needing to download the zip and do it yourself. It shouldn't be too hard to find the zip here on XDA for the stock release once it's out. I actually prefer doing it that way- it's faster -as with other devices I've owned the OTA update wouldn't go through until 3-4 days after its release (sensation 4g, streak 7). I have rooted and got CWM on my phone and removed the bloat and LOVE IT.
Coming from a 1st gen Exhibit 4G makes me thankful that so many great devs are actively developing for our Blaze. Thank you!

I still come to wonder.. What happened to the guy who was building a ROM before the blaze even released.?
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anactoraaron said:
HA! Me too! On both counts! Got rid of the exhibit and got the blaze instead. Never got voicemails on that undeveloped thing. It's too bad as besides the voicemail issue I had it was a solid phone.
You should be able to get an OTA update even rooted with CWM (it is still the stock rom after all) - but you may end up needing to download the zip and do it yourself. It shouldn't be too hard to find the zip here on XDA for the stock release once it's out. I actually prefer doing it that way- it's faster -as with other devices I've owned the OTA update wouldn't go through until 3-4 days after its release (sensation 4g, streak 7). I have rooted and got CWM on my phone and removed the bloat and LOVE IT.
Coming from a 1st gen Exhibit 4G makes me thankful that so many great devs are actively developing for our Blaze. Thank you!
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Don't think it will be OTA anyway. Will probably be kies.
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rbeier1221 said:
Don't think it will be OTA anyway. Will probably be kies.
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Most likely..

running erik's dk. love it

xsboredom said:
running erik's dk. love it
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awesome to hear
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How about with the new varieties.??!
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HTCLeoSence3.X said:
How about with the new varieties.??!
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I'm using cm7 lol between that and an pre-alpha version of cm9

I just got a boner.!! May test this cm9.??!
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HTCLeoSence3.X said:
I just got a boner.!! May test this cm9.??!
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It's a pre-alpha version it's buggy and unstable as hell that's why i haven't released or asked for testers let me get it to where it doesn't reboot every 5 mins and i'll hit ya up lol
also got LF4 update and i'm redoing everything i did with dark knight but with the latest firmware

Please, do.!! Can't wait.
Gonna update via Kids in the a.m.!
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HTCLeoSence3.X said:
Please, do.!! Can't wait.
Gonna update via Kids in the a.m.!
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lol awesome btw congrats on the new team newb
if you guys need any pointers ask in that thread and i'll hop on every so often

Lol thanks.. its a t.i.p. lol.
Thanks and most likely will do.! Lol.
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I'm using cm7 lol between that and an pre-alpha version of cm9
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Nice to know a CM9 is being worked on! Stoked to hear. :good:

I tried flashing a new rom with rom manager but it screwed up my cwm recovery and now when I boot it to recovery it shows pixels and them the screen turns green. Anyway to fix this?
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Verizon locked bootloader

I guess I should have done more research before I switched to Verizon but Is this something that they do to all their devices?
I just got the phone yesterday and I'm already regretting it..
Those restocking fees are not sounding to bad right now

XTRoRDiNAiRE said:
I guess I should have done more research before I switched to Verizon but Is this something that they do to all their devices?
I just got the phone yesterday and I'm already regretting it..
Those restocking fees are not sounding to bad right now
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No they dont do it to all their phones. And we have a work around (kexec) for now
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so there is hope for this device?
or should i just downgrade to the verizon samsung galaxy nexus?

XTRoRDiNAiRE said:
so there is hope for this device?
or should i just downgrade to the verizon samsung galaxy nexus?
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In my opinion since there is ways to load a custom kernel there is no reason to trade...there are lots of people working on unlocking the boot loader and I would like to see it unlocked. But, for now the ways that we are working around this issue are around and a good solution for now
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XTRoRDiNAiRE said:
I guess I should have done more research before I switched to Verizon but Is this something that they do to all their devices?
I just got the phone yesterday and I'm already regretting it..
Those restocking fees are not sounding to bad right now
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Same thing happened to me when I got it. Was really disappointed. But their is no phone out comparable to it. Anything else whatsoever is a downgrade.
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xsteven77x said:
Same thing happened to me when I got it. Was really disappointed. But their is no phone out comparable to it. Anything else whatsoever is a downgrade.
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It depends on your definition of downgrade because honestly I'm trying to figure out what makes this phone so popular?
It can't be the design because this is not at all a nice looking phone.. It can't be the ui cause touch wiz looks like a ten year old designed it
The galaxy nexus with jelly bean I heard is very smooth
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XTRoRDiNAiRE said:
It depends on your definition of downgrade because honestly I'm trying to figure out what makes this phone so popular?
It can't be the design because this is not at all a nice looking phone.. It can't be the ui cause touch wiz looks like a ten year old designed it
The galaxy nexus with jelly bean I heard is very smooth
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There are fully functional jelly bean builds. It's popular because it's a beast, and development is excellent despite the roadblock (which no longer matters).

This is the first time that I own a galaxy s phone and I bought it because of all the hype it gets.. There are like a thousand commercials about this phone
I truly want to know what it is that makes it a beast.. I'm not trying to be a troll or whatever I'm just curious?
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XTRoRDiNAiRE said:
This is the first time that I own a galaxy s phone and I bought it because of all the hype it gets.. There are like a thousand commercials about this phone
I truly want to know what it is that makes it a beast.. I'm not trying to be a troll or whatever I'm just curious?
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...are you serious? It's by far the fastest phone on the market. Development is excellent, the community is great. The Nexus is a great phone, go get it if you want it, but it's already seriously dated and the camera blows.

XTRoRDiNAiRE said:
so there is hope for this device?
or should i just downgrade to the verizon samsung galaxy nexus?
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If you already know it's a downgrade, why would you do it?

asmallchild said:
If you already know it's a downgrade, why would you do it?
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I'm asking myself the same question
I guess my main disappointment is the bootloader
But I understand that it's a newer device so it will take some time..
I guess what I will have to do in the mean time is use widget locker for that horrible lock screen and find a good launcher
Any recommendations
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XTRoRDiNAiRE said:
I'm asking myself the same question
I guess my main disappointment is the bootloader
But I understand that it's a newer device so it will take some time..
I guess what I will have to do in the mean time is use widget locker for that horrible lock screen and find a good launcher
Any recommendations
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Take a look at Nova Launcher.

Ok so I rooted the phone and it did make the phone a bit more interesting
Now to wait for an easier way to install custom recovery and roms
Tapping that from another galaxy

It's super easy to install roms. Go to the market and download ez recovery, go into easy recovery and install cwm 6.0.1.0. That's it's now go find a tin you like boot into recovery and flash the rom. Of course make a backup first and stay away from asop roms imho. To many people had issues. Flash synergy, beans or cleanrom. Those are all safe roms
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XTRoRDiNAiRE said:
Ok so I rooted the phone and it did make the phone a bit more interesting
Now to wait for an easier way to install custom recovery and roms
Tapping that from another galaxy
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Installing custom recovery and ROMs doesn't get any easier than it is now. EZ recovery app, as said above, for custom recovery and clockwork recovery for ROMs mods etc.. If you screw up there is always ODIN. As long as you don't brick the bootloader (just don't flash bootloaders) ODIN should fix near anything I believe.

Thanks for the advice guys I really do appreciate it
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Question about OTA ICS and Root process

I get a motorola atrix 2 but i dont know what OS have because is on Florida yet and i live in dominican republic.. so my question is that if choise the OTA update i can root it and install a Titanium Backup? i know that if i take the option of OTA update i cant ge back to Giger... but i dont want brick the phone or install a room that not is 100% Funtional.. so what i want to do with my A2
Camara/video
webtop
Games
install google now (if possible???)
Smart Action
Root and install Titanium Backup app i"m not a higth lvl user so i just want the basic of a Android phone..
more or less this is the use that i will do with my iphone
(Sorry if my english lvl suck i know!)
and if you have a another choise that i can do tell me i, listen!!!

Okay so are you being given a atrix 2 or buying it? Also yes you can root ics and yes you can use titanium backup.
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ProfessorHipster said:
Okay so are you being given a atrix 2 or buying it? Also yes you can root ics and yes you can use titanium backup.
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i dont know how i say i buy in past lol but ok the fact is that maybe tomorrow o the saturday the phone can be in my hand..

Check this thread out man: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1742879
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Check this thread out man: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1742879
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Ok! I did it!!! So now what is the proffit or benefice of a room over a ota final stock rom? What i get with the room that i dont get with ota update? If a a root user...???

melvingutierrez said:
Ok! I did it!!! So now what is the proffit or benefice of a room over a ota final stock rom? What i get with the room that i dont get with ota update? If a a root user...???
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There's always a benefit of root my friend. First and for most is removing bloarware (AT&T preinstalled apps that take up memory and space in background) So many other reasons why root is best. How I describe it to people is like this. Taking a Governor off a car is similar to rooting an android phone. Technically there is only one ROM made from OTA ICS right now here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1960679 but there are others in the development section built of previous ICS "Leaks" we obtained. Such as SCV7, Swifty Trix, CM10, MIUI and a stock based off OTA as well. Hope this helped explain a little. Enjoy the power of the Dark side! :thumbup:
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There's always a benefit of root my friend. First and for most is removing bloarware (AT&T preinstalled apps that take up memory and space in background) So many other reasons why root is best. How I describe it to people is like this. Taking a Governor off a car is similar to rooting an android phone. Technically there is only one ROM made from OTA ICS right now here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1960679 but there are others in the development section built of previous ICS "Leaks" we obtained. Such as SCV7, Swifty Trix, CM10, MIUI and a stock based off OTA as well. Hope this helped explain a little. Enjoy the power of the Dark side! :thumbup:
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Umm, cm10 is a true opensource rom and not based on any leak/OTA, it is compiled from scratch. The only files taken from ICS are a few libraries and kernel modules and the like, and those have no bearing on version of ICS they were taken from.

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Umm, cm10 is a true opensource rom and not based on any leak/OTA, it is compiled from scratch. The only files taken from ICS are a few libraries and kernel modules and the like, and those have no bearing on version of ICS they were taken from.
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Yes, your right Jim. CM is device-wide... forgot to mention that. Shouldn't mater what version of ICS your on. As far as other ROMs go for on this device, as far as ICS goes, like I stated, one (two including stock/rooted) is only based off the official OTA ICS build. How did I know you'd come to CM's rescue in here Jim? lol. JP...keep up the good work man. Looking forward to your CM10 build! (Checking forums every half hour lol)
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Yes, your right Jim. CM is device-wide... forgot to mention that. Shouldn't mater what version of ICS your on. As far as other ROMs go for on this device, as far as ICS goes, like I stated, one (two including stock/rooted) is only based off the official OTA ICS build. How did I know you'd come to CM's rescue in here Jim? lol. JP...keep up the good work man. Looking forward to your CM10 build! (Checking forums every half hour lol)
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LOL... I will PM you with a link to my latest build, so you can see how it is. I have several testers now, but for me there are still a few bugs that make me, the perfectionist, not ready to release it to the world just yet.

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LOL... I will PM you with a link to my latest build, so you can see how it is. I have several testers now, but for me there are still a few bugs that make me, the perfectionist, not ready to release it to the world just yet.
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What would I've to do to get that link Jim??
Lol, but seriously wanna try your build...
Thanks
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LOL... I will PM you with a link to my latest build, so you can see how it is. I have several testers now, but for me there are still a few bugs that make me, the perfectionist, not ready to release it to the world just yet.
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Thanks man, you know I'm always willing to test as well. Well, as long as there's no hard brick possibility in the process lol. But with this new fxz back to ICS stock I'm feeling more secure now hahaha. Yes, I would be the perfectionist too if it came to making my own ROM. Probably why I never have attempted yet. Too much work n stress for me to handle. I give you Dev'so credit! Thanks for sharing link man. I'll give it a go n let you know how everything runs. (If I find anything new)
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I am probably not an ideal tester, due to lack of technical knowledge regarding Android, but should you need a tester of the moderate abilities, and knowledge I would be more than willing to be of help if I actually was help. I currently am running the build of CM10 that is currently available, and am impressed with it, but look forward to your build with much anticipation. I can only take off my hat, as it were, to you, and all of the developers in this arena.
Jerry
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LOL... I will PM you with a link to my latest build, so you can see how it is. I have several testers now, but for me there are still a few bugs that make me, the perfectionist, not ready to release it to the world just yet.
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ok i undertant about the good of root is very important to take all the control over you phone, but in case of Custom Room i see every option that is put here i the case of the SwifyTrix for sample have suppor for many languaje? or just english??? and if i install this room but i dont like i can go to official Room?

A2Trip said:
There's always a benefit of root my friend. First and for most is removing bloarware (AT&T preinstalled apps that take up memory and space in background) So many other reasons why root is best. How I describe it to people is like this. Taking a Governor off a car is similar to rooting an android phone. Technically there is only one ROM made from OTA ICS right now here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1960679 but there are others in the development section built of previous ICS "Leaks" we obtained. Such as SCV7, Swifty Trix, CM10, MIUI and a stock based off OTA as well. Hope this helped explain a little. Enjoy the power of the Dark side! :thumbup:
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can we go back to gb via custom roms..i heard we cant go back to gb from ics ota.. also what is installing to second system

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Check this thread out man: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1742879
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Ok if i use this method to root my atrix 2, can i unroot after that?
And i’ve heard that there are problems that is experienced by other atrix 2 users(superuser versions 3.0.3 and above), how do i fix that?
My atrix 2 is running stock ics from the official OTA , before that it was running 2.3.6 unrooted ,stock.
Thanks in advance for clearing my doubts.
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farz2farz said:
can we go back to gb via custom roms..i heard we cant go back to gb from ics ota.. also what is installing to second system
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No, and no. No on 2nd system because it still uses the same underlying stock ICS kernel.
If you took the OTA, then you are stuck on ICS. This has been the case with major android releases and not being able to go backward for a very long time.