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I have an order placed for the Moto G, but now have the opportunity to get a brand new Galaxy S3 for $200 off-contract. Specs wise the phones are very similar; with the S3 having a bigger (AMOLED) screen, SD support, and a plethora of accessories & ROMs. This along with a removable battery & better camera have me leaning towards the S3.
Do any Moto G owners currently have an S3? If so could I get an opinion on whether its worth cancelling my order & purchasing the older phone.
Get both and then sell the one you don't want. Specs wise the S3 wins but the moto G seems to ignore that factor.
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i would say s3 has better camera but that is about it.
moto g is snappy and has great batterylife and screen. also moto g will get 4.4 in january so my guess is that it will also get the next version of android.
I had an s3 for about one year and sold it as soon I got the Moto g.
The s3 is a nice phone but the battery use to drain fast sometimes and have a lot of software issues. Also, even with cyanogenmod it freezes sometimes. The screen is bigger but not that much and in comparison with the moto g it looses in brightness.
GPS and Google now consumes a LOT of battery on the s3 while in moto g they barelly appear in the battery graphics consumption. Also, the moto g have a better design and feels great in hand, while the s3 is kinda ungly and you will need to use it with both hand in lots of situations.
I'm in love with my moto g and selling my s3 to buy it was one of the best choices I made. It runs android flawless!!!
I did camera comparison in low light without flash, left MotoG, middle RAZRi, right Galaxy S3:
http://www.android-hilfe.de/motorol...n-zur-kamera-bildqualitaet-2.html#post6758301
These are png's so they are 1:1 quality, no forum crop or reduced quality.
I have both phones, both on stock ROM. The S3 is getting more and more laggy.
Pro S3: Slimmer, less weight, slightly bigger screen, better camera
Pro MG: Blazing fast, feels more sturdy, Kitkat in '14, no balderdash, great battery life
If it wasn't for NFC & removable SD support I'd ditch my S3 right away.
Get the Moto G. Pure Android is great... Just got mine yesterday and i'm loving it.. Feel much better in my hands than my nexus4.
This is the phone i was waiting since Android came out
I've had an S3 and currently have a Moto G. I'd definitely say the Moto G, it's faster/smoother, better screen, better battery life etc. IMO of course
Get the Galaxy s3. More capable and better resale value.
Assuming the Galaxy s3 is legit and won't get blacklisted.
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deadpunk said:
Get the Moto G. Pure Android is great... Just got mine yesterday and i'm loving it.. Feel much better in my hands than my nexus4.
This is the phone i was waiting since Android came out
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That and the glass back are the two things i hated about the n4. It felt like it just did not belong in my hand.
Talk about coincidence OP..in the same situation
I'll make the story short and brief..I purchased a S3 for 240 CDN and havent picked it up yet
However I can still get the Moto G for 65 CDN should I want to..its apart of a carrier deal + gift card redemption
The only true differences (to me anyway) is camera and memory
1) Never cared for a phone on a camera
2) There are smaller external options to increase memory
Another problem is build...and by touching the dummy products, the Moto G feels alot stronger...Samsung cellphones r amazing but I cant stand the overall build..I've seen too many broken S3 screens
Any comments would be most appreciated..I'm upgrading from an iPhone 3G btw...
Just to let you guys know, I just woke up and pushed my Moto G to the floor (hard floor) today. It's the third time I let this phone fall and it does not broke. Not a single scratch
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Just to let you guys know, I just woke up and pushed my Moto G to the floor (hard floor) today. It's the third time I let this phone fall and it does not broke. Not a single scratch
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I'll freak out when my moto g falls for the first time... For sure xD
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I know quadrant isn't exactly perfect, but I was pretty surprised. Mysisters stock moto g vs my custom ROM Canadian s3.
Also included one of her battery life.
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I did camera comparison in low light without flash, left MotoG, middle RAZRi, right Galaxy S3:
http://www.android-hilfe.de/motorol...n-zur-kamera-bildqualitaet-2.html#post6758301
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Hi, unfortunately I can't see the difference from these pictures.
I have the choice between buying a used S3 or a new Moto G for the same price, and the camera quality is important for me. I would like to get at least the quality that I had with my (broken) Samsung Galaxy Nexus.
Is the difference really that noticeable ? thx
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Hi, unfortunately I can't see the difference from these pictures.
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If you can't see any difference, it is equal which phone/camera you choose...
Go for Motorola, seriously.
OK thanks for the advice.
There is one thing that I see : when there is no stabilizer, the image is more blurry, indeed !
Hey Guys can anyone tell me should I go for the Moto g or galaxy s3 or Galaxy S4 Mini? I can buy a brand new moto G and with that price I can get a used s3 and s4 mini here in India. Anyone can help me? I am totally confused.
hey guys check it out!!
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I would absolutelly go for the MotoG.
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Hi All
I am looking to move from a HTC One X to a Moto G. My question in on the camera is it the same or better than my current HTC One X??
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Hi All
I am looking to move from a HTC One X to a Moto G. My question in on the camera is it the same or better than my current HTC One X??
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One X camera is better. Moto G camera is really slow and most pictures require a really steady hand. But I think it takes better low light pictures than the One X, like on the one X all low light pictures were very grainy/fuzzy so that's less out here. You'll definitely notice a bump in battery life though.
Since I did the exact move you're planning maybe a list of pros and cons of moving to moto g will help you
Pros:
Kitkat(and one more update hopefully)
Battery Life(I've got 4.5 hours of screen on time vs the 3 hours I was getting on my One X) This is the entire reason for me shift to the Moto G
Faster(?)
No random heating scenes(which wasn't really fixed on the One X)
Charges pretty quick
Cons:
Smaller Screen
Camera not as good
Prefer the slim dimensions of the One X
Camera is not good at moto g!
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some pic's with Moto G camera, the Stock Camera ( Motorola Camera )
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some pic's with Moto G camera, the Stock Camera ( Motorola Camera )
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These photos look pretty good to me. I'm of the school that if you what the "best" photos, then use a camera. But for those quick, unplanned pics, your phone is always handy.
the camera on the Moto G is beyond awful
I forgot to mention, the speaker of Moto G is louder than the One X by a considerable amount.
@japoina92 those are some good pics mate. Never got a decent snap like that so far. Maybe my hands are too shaky
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Wtf it's a headcrab! Hilarious brave touching that barehandly
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Ooooops ..posted by mistake
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You have a thread just for posting moto G pictures in "Moto G Themes and Apps" section.
Just thought I'd throw this one in here for anyone put off by Moto G camera reviews. I have had my Moto G for some time now and it remains to be a solid, reliable phone. However, a recent sale for the Lumia 925 came up so I grabbed one as it's supposed to have a decent camera on it.
Well, having done some comparisons between the two, I can categorically confirm that 9 times out of 10 the Moto G produces more well rounded images than the Lumia. Granted, at low light, the G cannot compete, but under normal lighting conditions its actually slightly better, even when zoomed in. Text is no clearer on the 925 than it is on the G. I was really surprised by this and a little gutted I even bothered with the 925. If anyone is interested, I can upload some comparisons.
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Just thought I'd throw this one in here for anyone put off by Moto G camera reviews. I have had my Moto G for some time now and it remains to be a solid, reliable phone. However, a recent sale for the Lumia 925 came up so I grabbed one as it's supposed to have a decent camera on it.
Well, having done some comparisons between the two, I can categorically confirm that 9 times out of 10 the Moto G produces more well rounded images than the Lumia. Granted, at low light, the G cannot compete, but under normal lighting conditions its actually slightly better, even when zoomed in. Text is no clearer on the 925 than it is on the G. I was really surprised by this and a little gutted I even bothered with the 925. If anyone is interested, I can upload some comparisons.
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well,that's a big surprise
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well,that's a big surprise
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Actually, I was a bit too hasty to post in all honesty. I've just done some further comparisons, more accurately, taking into consideration the field of view of the 925 and by transferring the images actually off the two devices and comparing them side by side on the same screen. the edge has now tipped in favor of the 925, but not by a huge degree. The brighter of the two images is the moto one.
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Actually, I was a bit too hasty to post in all honesty. I've just done some further comparisons, more accurately, taking into consideration the field of view of the 925 and by transferring the images actually off the two devices and comparing them side by side on the same screen. the edge has now tipped in favor of the 925, but not by a huge degree. The brighter of the two images is the moto one.
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well,i'm not photograph genius ,i think l925 got more detail and a bit less noise,especially by zoom in,but not by far,moto g in your picture still take a great picture. i really surprise :good:
i have to agree though,moto g not the best camera out there but sometimes,under a certain condition,it will take a great photo :highfive:
Well guys sometimes in class I have to take pictures of sombdy's else notes or a pic of something on notice board...mostly printed stuff
It shudnt be high quality....just legible
You think moto g can handle that.?
Easily. It's a capable camera, no where near as bad as had been made out.
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Can you please take a quik pic of a page from a book or magazine or something...I have already booked my Moto G (16 gb) but they sold like hot cakes over here and all stock was gone in minutes
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Can you please take a quik pic of a page from a book or magazine or something...I have already booked my Moto G (16 gb) but they sold like hot cakes over here and all stock was gone in minutes
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Pictures already posted on this forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543003
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Pictures already posted on this forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543003
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Yeah but read my post above ...I meant as a snapshot of a printed page of a book or a notes page or something like that coz my regular usage would involve those
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Does this help? Hopefully, I uploaded the photos correct
Hey Guys,
I consider upgrading my Galaxy Nexus to the Moto G.
Specs are pretty similar, even in some parameters the Galaxy Nexus is better (AMOLED vs LCD, thickness, camera)
What do you think? Anyone here done this move?
Thanks
Tom Zach.
I think its a better move overall. Motorola is doing some great stuffs lately. They even beats Google in terms of pushing the updates quickly. Galaxy Nexus's software support was dropped by Google but it still have the community support. I saw many people even moved from Nexus 4 to Moto G.
But from hardware perspective Moto G is bit behind them. Many touchscreen issues are popping up and returned for replacement. G's touchscreen is easy to get broken than any flagship or Nexus phones even though it has Gorilla Glass 3. You got to think twice in the hardware department.
Yeah I upgraded, not looked back.
nirmalbalaji said:
I think its a better move overall. Motorola is doing some great stuffs lately. They even beats Google in terms of pushing the updates quickly. Galaxy Nexus's software support was dropped by Google but it still have the community support. I saw many people even moved from Nexus 4 to Moto G.
But from hardware perspective Moto G is bit behind them. Many touchscreen issues are popping up and returned for replacement. G's touchscreen is easy to get broken than any flagship or Nexus phones even though it has Gorilla Glass 3. You got to think twice in the hardware department.
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Hey, thanks for the detailed reply!
Wooh, didn't hear about those touch / touchscreen issues, it's little disturbing actually
King p1n said:
Yeah I upgraded, not looked back.
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Hey, but besides the battery life and the speaker, do you really feel like its an improvement?
Seems like the gnex screen and the overall look is superior
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Hey, but besides the battery life and the speaker, do you really feel like its an improvement?
Seems like the gnex screen and the overall look is superior
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To me it feels it was , I got to the point where I despised my gnex.
I've not heard or even experienced these screen issues can't comment on it.
If the moto g had a better camera it'd be even better.
All depends want you want out of your phone really. Battery life and affordability was key key for me.
Not once have I wanted my gnez back tbh
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King p1n said:
To me it feels it was , I got to the point where I despised my gnex.
I've not heard or even experienced these screen issues can't comment on it.
If the moto g had a better camera it'd be even better.
All depends want you want out of your phone really. Battery life and affordability was key key for me.
Not once have I wanted my gnez back tbh
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Very impressive, thank you.
Had any thoughts getting the Nexus 5 before choosing the Moto G?
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Very impressive, thank you.
Had any thoughts getting the Nexus 5 before choosing the Moto G?
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That was my dilemma before making my purchase. But the Nexus 5 is notorious for sub par battery life, poor screen viewing angles and contrast. Moto G doesn't have any of those issues and for the price it was a no brainer for me.
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That was my dilemma before making my purchase. But the Nexus 5 is notorious for sub par battery life, poor screen viewing angles and contrast. Moto G doesn't have any of those issues and for the price it was a no brainer for me.
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I had the same decision problem. It was between the Nexus 5 and the MotoG. It came down to a few factors for me: 1)The spec bump and screen size were not drastic enough for me to justify the price difference. 2)The screen size on the Nexus 5 was a drawback. I have small hands, and my assumption was that the smaller screen size combined with the rounded form factor would make the MotoG easier to hold and manipulate. 3)The poor battery life on the Nexus 5 compared to thte superior life on the MotoG.
All of those things led me to choose the MotoG over the Nexus 5, and I've been 100% pleased. I have had absolutely no issues with the touchscreen which is always accurate and responsible. The software (KK w/GEL) is buttery smooth -- I have experienced absolutely no lag from the OS in any shape, form, or fashion. Regardless of the specs, it actually operates like a high end device. Having said that, more graphic/cpu intensive games will lag to some degree but I'm not a big Android gamer -- casual games are fine by me.
The screen on the MotoG is perfectly calibrated. I've heard some G's have a pinkish tint, but I have not experienced that. My guess is that they use two different screen vendors, so it may be a roll of the device; however, even the pink tinted screens are still supposedly excellent.
Battery life has been phenomenal.
Unlocking the bootloader and rooting was a piece of cake.
The only big complaint is the camera, but I carry around my Sony NEX-5R most places I go so that's not a huge deal for me.
Overall, this is one of the best phones I've ever owned. The "flagship" phones I've had in the past were always something of a disappointment. I never liked Sense, TouchWiz, etc. which adversely affected performance to the point that it never really felt like I actually had a high-end device. That always led me to root and flash a custom ROM, but I shouldn't have had to do that in order to get a nice user experience.
The MotoG is fantastic. I give it an A+ when you consider its price in relation to its features and usability.
I ended up upgrading to the nexus 5 from a galaxy nexus, but I simultaneously got a moto g for my girlfriend, so I've had a great way of comparing the 2.
The nexus 5 is obviously the better device(no doubt about it), and the battery problems are non existent(at least on my unit, I get very consistent battery life in terms of screen on time at around 4,5 hours). It's definitely one of the best devices on the market and at a fair price much below the immediate competition.
The moto g is obviously a mid range device in comparison, but it is a lot more capable than most other phones on the market and is all around a great phone(definitely worth the cheap upgrade from a galaxy nexus). In direct comparison with the nexus 5 it has a slightly worse camera(the nexus 5 camera is not top notch either though) and slightly better battery life in my experience.
Software vise they are very similar, and since a gpe moto g has been released, they can both expect timely updates.
All in all they are both worth the upgrade from the galaxy nexus(though I had kept it for another year, if I hadn't dropped it and cracked the screen). It comes down to how you use the phone(camera and gaming performance etc.), and your preference in screen size, and price. you get great value for the money with both compared to any other smartphone, though a little more value for money with the moto g.
I've got both, on Verizon though. My typical phone is a Galaxy S4, but my gf broke her GS4, so she stole mine in the meantime. My old backup phone was a Galaxy Nexus, and my current phone is the Moto G. All that said, here's my take.
Moto G Pros:
- Cheap
- Better battery life than Galaxy Nexus
- More responsive
- Feels better in hand & pocket
- Feels sturdier
- Moderately better camera
Moto G Cons:
- Locked bootloader on Verizon (no root or roms)
- No LTE
- Only comes with 8GB storage, with 5.5 usable
- No 802.11 5GHz support
- No BT 4.0 LE (has BT 4.0)
- No KitKat
- No tethering support (I pay for metered data too!, currently using FoxFi USB)
If I didn't depend on my phone for work, I would've bought a good condition Galaxy Nexus or GS3 from Swappa. But the Moto G is acceptable for the next week.
I had the Galaxy Nexus before my Moto G, its definitely worth the upgrade for the battery alone, even with extended battery the Nex was terrible with battery life, similar specs but the moto G runs much better, my Nex was lag-tastic, I see no difference in pics, both are mediocre in that department.
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I've got both, on Verizon though. My typical phone is a Galaxy S4, but my gf broke her GS4, so she stole mine in the meantime. My old backup phone was a Galaxy Nexus, and my current phone is the Moto G. All that said, here's my take.
Moto G Pros:
- Cheap
- Better battery life than Galaxy Nexus
- More responsive
- Feels better in hand & pocket
- Feels sturdier
- Moderately better camera
Moto G Cons:
- Locked bootloader on Verizon (no root or roms)
- No LTE
- Only comes with 8GB storage, with 5.5 usable
- No 802.11 5GHz support
- No BT 4.0 LE (has BT 4.0)
- No KitKat
- No tethering support (I pay for metered data too!, currently using FoxFi USB)
If I didn't depend on my phone for work, I would've bought a good condition Galaxy Nexus or GS3 from Swappa. But the Moto G is acceptable for the next week.
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Ae you just talking aobut the Verizon version, the G does have Kitkat and there's a 16 gig version, I dont agree with the Nexus having better battery at all, it was actually terrible, the G's battery is so much better, not even close.
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I had the Galaxy Nexus before my Moto G, its definitely worth the upgrade for the battery alone, even with extended battery the Nex was terrible with battery life, similar specs but the moto G runs much better, my Nex was lag-tastic, I see no difference in pics, both are mediocre in that department.
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Ae you just talking aobut the Verizon version, the G does have Kitkat and there's a 16 gig version, I dont agree with the Nexus having better battery at all, it was actually terrible, the G's battery is so much better, not even close.
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Please reread my post. Yes I'm talking about the Verizon variant, XT1028. Yes I know the GSM has a 16gb option, even a GPE. I wish I that was a viable choice, but I have a tendency of working in the barren deserts of California. Somehow Verizon's EVDO/LTE coverage out there is sufficently reliable.
Also, I said the "Better battery life than Galaxy Nexus", as a "Moto G Pro" and not a Con.
I really like the Moto G. It's just very limited. I would say its very similar to the experience of using an iPhone 4. Fixed & limited storage, snappy for the OS at the time, nice to hold and use. But there are better options out there.
I upgraded from a Nexus 4 and I'm very happy: battery life is awesome and the phone is still smooth, Moto G display is way better than the Galaxy Nexus one (I owned a Galaxy Nexus)
Hi guys,
I am using Galaxy Nexus with CM11 M11 at the moment. Is it worthy to upgrade to Moto G 2014? How much faster do you guys feel when upgrading from GaNex to Moto G 2014 in term of a normal user: Maps, GPS, Gmail, Facebook, Instagram, photo taking - NO gaming.
Is 1GB of RAM giving you lagging when switching between apps? Is Nexus 5 more worthy for the upgrade rather than Moto G 2014?
Regards,
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Hi guys,
I am using Galaxy Nexus with CM11 M11 at the moment. Is it worthy to upgrade to Moto G 2014? How much faster do you guys feel when upgrading from GaNex to Moto G 2014 in term of a normal user: Maps, GPS, Gmail, Facebook, Instagram, photo taking - NO gaming.
Is 1GB of RAM giving you lagging when switching between apps? Is Nexus 5 more worthy for the upgrade rather than Moto G 2014?
Regards,
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The Moto G is worth it, my dad has a Gnexus and my Moto G is much faster. However, the camera is bad
tngphm said:
Hi guys,
I am using Galaxy Nexus with CM11 M11 at the moment. Is it worthy to upgrade to Moto G 2014? How much faster do you guys feel when upgrading from GaNex to Moto G 2014 in term of a normal user: Maps, GPS, Gmail, Facebook, Instagram, photo taking - NO gaming.
Is 1GB of RAM giving you lagging when switching between apps? Is Nexus 5 more worthy for the upgrade rather than Moto G 2014?
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Go for a nexus 5 if you can get it cheap. The moto g is all fine but its camera...not so. If you plan on keeping your phone for a bit longer, go for the nexus 5
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However, the camera is bad
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The moto g is all fine but its camera...not so.
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Hey, both of you guys are complaining about the camera of this Moto G. Is that the Moto G 2014 you're talking about? I see the photos taken by Moto G 2014 look pretty nice - some even says it's even comparable with Nexus 5 camera.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/post-picture-moto-g-2nd-gen-2014-t2879591
The Nexus 5 is about USD350 vs. Moto G 2014 is abt USD218 at where I am atm.
tngphm said:
Hey, both of you guys are complaining about the camera of this Moto G. Is that the Moto G 2014 you're talking about? I see the photos taken by Moto G 2014 look pretty nice - some even says it's even comparable with Nexus 5 camera.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/post-picture-moto-g-2nd-gen-2014-t2879591
The Nexus 5 is about USD350 vs. Moto G 2014 is abt USD218 at where I am atm.
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definitely talking about the 2013 Moto G. Can't say much about the 2014 because I don't own one. Again I stand with what I said earlier, in the long run the Nexus 5 will serve you better
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definitely talking about the 2013 Moto G. Can't say much about the 2014 because I don't own one. Again I stand with what I said earlier, in the long run the Nexus 5 will serve you better
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Thanks for the confirmation. Btw, do you feel a lot of lag with your Moto G (the hardware is identical with Moto G 2014)? Like when browsing Internet then switching to either Maps, FB, Instagram or Camera, etc.
Have you guys noticed that nothing has been done about the G camera's excess noise reduction? It smudges a lot of the detail that should be there but isn't.
I have a feeling that the Aptina AR0543 CMOS sensor can take significant more detailed pictures but Motorola saw it and thought: "hmmm this camera is too good and it will make the Moto G too much of a good deal compared to the X" so they added some ridiculous software noise reduction to make pictures look worse and thus make consumers think "hmmm if I want a good camera I should spend the extra money and get the X"
I know some people will think this is unlikely, but there's no good reason why the noise reduction is so high on the Moto G's camera and considering that the Moto G is the saving grace for Motorola while the X hasn't really sold that well, they should just give up and make the Moto G's camera even better by getting rid of the noise reduction and tuning the colors so they keep selling more and more Moto G's.
What do you think?
yes this is true.. even my good old galaxy apollo's 3.1MP shooter is far better than Moto G's. camera is the worst thing happened to Moto G.
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Yes. See this. Moto X had the same problem with the noise reduction.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7353/moto-x-update-dramatically-improves-camera-quality
Either Motorola doesn't know yet(post on their forums about it a lot so they know) OR they're not updating it on purpose so the Moto X camera looks better.
Yeah, I think they overcompensated with the noise reduction, that should be a post-effect. My beef is with the white balance, it's noticeably blue. They're all software issues and I can't see how that could have been missed. All the hardware is there for a decent picture.
Subject also discussed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2567260
I wonder if just a bomb tickin to explode with an update (as waht they did with the X)
Maybe they update it once the competing phones comes out
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Yeah, I think they overcompensated with the noise reduction, that should be a post-effect. My beef is with the white balance, it's noticeably blue. They're all software issues and I can't see how that could have been missed. All the hardware is there for a decent picture.
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Exactly. I don't see how somebody at Motorola can look at a sample image and thought that is acceptable for production unless they wanted it to be that way. Every Moto G seems to look like a oil painting when zoomed at 100% and they have to know by now but for some reason they haven't even acknowledged it despite this phone being one of the best phones of 2013 and every single publication and user online saying the camera is the single flaw in this phone.
If they never deliver a firmware update, it's got to be intentional. Hopefully I'm wrong and they are just dragging their feet since its not a very profitable device.
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Exactly. I don't see how somebody at Motorola can look at a sample image and thought that is acceptable for production unless they wanted it to be that way. Every Moto G seem to look like a oil painting when zoomed at 100% and they have to know by now but for some reason they haven't even acknowledged it despite this phone being one of the best phones of 2013 and every single publication and user online saying the camera is the single flaw in this phone.
If they never deliver a firmware update, its got to be intentional. Hopefully I'm wrong and they are just dragging their feet since its not a very profitable device.
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Haha conspiracy theory!.... Let's flood them with emails?
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CADude said:
Exactly. I don't see how somebody at Motorola can look at a sample image and thought that is acceptable for production unless they wanted it to be that way. Every Moto G seem to look like a oil painting when zoomed at 100% and they have to know by now but for some reason they haven't even acknowledged it despite this phone being one of the best phones of 2013 and every single publication and user online saying the camera is the single flaw in this phone.
If they never deliver a firmware update, its got to be intentional. Hopefully I'm wrong and they are just dragging their feet since its not a very profitable device.
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I hope that it's an oversight on Moto's part. I mean the sale to Lenova was somewhat hushed and timed just after release--they probably wanted to make sure it had a market presence to allay any misgivings in the acquisition. In that sense they may have pushed for release and not vetted the software as they may otherwise have done. There have been issues with the camera app itself.
jaspreet997 said:
Haha conspiracy theory!.... Let's flood them with emails?
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Hopefully people have already been doing that along with posting on their forum.
I am suspecting this as well.
The MSM8226 processor is supposed to be 1.4 GHz but in our Moto G it is underclocked to 1.2GHz.
5MP camera is good enough to take 1080p video, but for moto g the maximum is only 720p.
It could be the same for picture quality, they try to distinct their flagship and their budget phone by making Moto G looks worst.
Did you already find an open thread about this topic on Motorola forum?
x92 said:
I am suspecting this as well.
The MSM8226 processor is supposed to be 1.4 GHz but in our Moto G it is underclocked to 1.2GHz.
5MP camera is good enough to take 1080p video, but for moto g the maximum is only 720p.
It could be the same for picture quality, they try to distinct their flagship and their budget phone by making Moto G looks worst.
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What's the point of having it clocked to 1.4 when 1.2 is already smooth as butter? It will just waste battery life.
What's the point of having it record 1080p videos when it only has a 720p screen? It will just waste memory.
I think you guys should start thinking about this logically before assuming moto is out to purposely make the moto g terrible. Optimizations of battery life and file size are important, especially on a phone that has a non removable battery and no SD card slot.
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Too many movies! Come on..
x92 said:
I am suspecting this as well.
The MSM8226 processor is supposed to be 1.4 GHz but in our Moto G it is underclocked to 1.2GHz.
5MP camera is good enough to take 1080p video, but for moto g the maximum is only 720p.
It could be the same for picture quality, they try to distinct their flagship and their budget phone by making Moto G looks worst.
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Actually its 1.6ghz and you can overclock it easily with the Faux Kernel.
I personally think the underclocking was done for battery life though.
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What's the point of having it clocked to 1.4 when 1.2 is already smooth as butter? It will just waste battery life.
What's the point of having it record 1080p videos when it only has a 720p screen? It will just waste memory.
I think you guys should start thinking about this logically before assuming moto is out to purposely make the moto g terrible. Optimizations of battery life and file size are important, especially on a phone that has a non removable battery and no SD card slot.
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Where is your evidence that processor clock at 0.2GHz slower will actually save much battery? how many percent?
It might be smooth for now but that doesn't mean it will be smooth after major android update in the future.
Really? do you mean that those phone out there that can take 1080p cannot shoot in 720p? there wasn't any option for that?
I didn't say Motorola try to make Moto G terrible, I'm just saying they try to distinct their flagship and non-flagship.
In fact, I think Moto G is a terrific product for under 200 US dollar but by looking at the capability of Moto G hardware, I wish it could be better.
Back to topic, what do you think Motorola is trying to "save" here by having excess noise reduction for the camera?
x92 said:
I am suspecting this as well.
The MSM8226 processor is supposed to be 1.4 GHz but in our Moto G it is underclocked to 1.2GHz.
5MP camera is good enough to take 1080p video, but for moto g the maximum is only 720p.
It could be the same for picture quality, they try to distinct their flagship and their budget phone by making Moto G looks worst.
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You're kind of taking us off topic here. Nobody has a problem with the SoC, and few people care about 1080p video since 720p is enough for most people and the screen is 720p anyway.
The image quality is the real problem here. Another issue is the fact that the video camera records at too low a bitrate.
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You're kind of taking us off topic here. Nobody has a problem with the SoC, and few people care about 1080p video since 720p is enough for most people and the screen is 720p anyway.
The image quality is the real problem here. Another issue is the fact that the video camera records at too low a bitrate.
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Nope, SoC and 1080p are examples that help bring out my point:
"It could be the same for picture quality, they try to distinct their flagship and their budget phone by making Moto G looks worst."
Well from what I known and seen Motorola camera have never been good on any of their smart phones that I used. But they get the job done.
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Feel free to share your doubts also with the Motorola team in the discussion we have opened on the support forum:
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/484ae2193b
zack.1988 said:
Feel free to share your doubts also with the Motorola team in the discussion we have opened on the support forum:
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/484ae2193b
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Thanks for opening that. The more people flood their forums, the better.
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Moto G5 Plus come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
More of marketing gimmick. Good hardware but worst software. Chinese developers don't know how to code. Lenovo killed the Moto brand
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The camera is poor. I have no Idea why is there so many people defending the camera on this device, but it's nothing special.
Mrkblo said:
The camera is poor. I have no Idea why is there so many people defending the camera on this device, but it's nothing special.
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It is advisable for you to stop posting on this forum coz you don't own a moto g5 plus which is clearly visible in your profile.
Camera is the main highly of the phone. ?
What are you talking about? I'm writing this from my Moto G5 plus. Just because you disagree with me it doesn't mean that I'm not allowed to post here. In my opinion the camera is nothing special, even my old galaxy s4 and Lumia 730 are able to get some better snaps in good lighting conditions.
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It is advisable for you to stop posting on this forum coz you don't own a moto g5 plus which is clearly visible in your profile.
Camera is the main highly of the phone.
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Low light is bad compared to 2016 flagships. I just tested with my S7 and it kills the G5 Plus. If camera is most important to you, I recommend getting a used S7 for about the same price. Good lighting is fine.
I really like the G5 plus camera, compared to my old phones (Xperia z3 compact, moto g4 plus, nexus 4 and others) I think it's a really good camera for its price range. And I don't even tried to unlock the boot loader and use the hdr+ Google camera, thats looks even better on snaps.
The camera is okay. I take lots of pictures with it, they look fine.
When I really care about the picture looking nice, if I'm with other people, if those people have a modern flagship phone, I'll ask them to take the picture. And those pictures look significantly better.
Google's hdr+ really helps in low light too. Stock rom, using the 32-bit apk found in a thread here with camera2 API enabled via build.prop.
This is more light than I could see with my own eyes, alley building lights in the distance only. Forget S7, this rivals low light on my $2500 Sony A7s!
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Low light is bad compared to 2016 flagships. I just tested with my S7 and it kills the G5 Plus. If camera is most important to you, I recommend getting a used S7 for about the same price. Good lighting is fine.
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Where can you get a used s7 for same price.???
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Where can you get a used s7 for same price.???
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Ebay, Craigslist, and Swappa if you're in the USA.
Coming from moto e 1st gen which i bought for Rs 7000 in 2014. This phone has a pretty good camera at this price point considering that i bought it for Rs 10000. And i love the professional mode in this camera. You just have to know how to use the camera for good shots. It would be great to have Raw support in stock camera. But i love it.
Some samples.
I personally think moto did an awful work with this camera, even my 2015 nexus 5 beats it anytime its pitted against it.
pradsngh523 said:
I personally think moto did an awful work with this camera, even my 2015 nexus 5 beats it anytime its pitted against it.
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Moto did screw it up with their processing of the image. But turn it off by applying the chromatix mod and extend your DR with the Google Camera from defcomg/savitar, and the pics coming off of this are actually pretty amazing.
Dishe said:
Moto did screw it up with their processing of the image. But turn it off by applying the chromatix mod and extend your DR with the Google Camera from defcomg/savitar, and the pics coming off of this are actually pretty amazing.
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Actually im waiting for moto to provide oreo stock ota. hopefully they will also release stable 64bit sources also as oreo only support 32 bit kernel sources as of now. If not i gues that is the final choice i have. Untill that I'm struck on good ol nexus 5. low light images on nexus 5 are just sweet despite having f2.4 camera.
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Moto did screw it up with their processing of the image. But turn it off by applying the chromatix mod and extend your DR with the Google Camera from defcomg/savitar, and the pics coming off of this are actually pretty amazing.
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Where can I download the Google camera app compatible with the moto g5 plus??
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Where can I download the Google camera app compatible with the moto g5 plus??
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Search and ye shall find. Everything you need to have and know should be here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/how-to/how-to-fix-g5-plus-camera-mods-tools-t3722844
Dishe said:
Search and ye shall find. Everything you need to have and know should be here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/how-to/how-to-fix-g5-plus-camera-mods-tools-t3722844
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Thanks dude
Any of you tried the new cam update on the G5Plus? I think it's great! I have the S7 edge and took pictures with both phones of the same thing. Then as they uploaded to Google photos, I had a hard time distinguish which is which without looking at the info. Moto G5Plus in low light. Ignore the mess, I'm before moving. I did not selectively focused just point and shoot. Look at the sharpness on the books and the glass bunny. These pics were made near midnight with only floor lamps farther away.
Glad they've been improving the stock shooter! I noticed an update, but for some reason the new app is having trouble with video recording so I might go back. Google Camera running on here has been blowing everything else out of the water, but those shots are very respectable.